#105574 - 02/18/16 10:09 AM
Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness
[Re: Czereda]
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SIN3
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Dunno about that. The thing is that a lot has changed due to the refugee crisis at least in Europe.
A lot? I'd say it's moderate at this point. While there has been a change in sentiment towards the policy on Muslim Refugees, there's also been a step up in combating 'Islamophobia'. Mama Merkel is taking a hit for her flip-floppy politics (among others) and it really depends on the country. Even in Germany where sexual harassment by refugees has become pretty common, there's still a percentage of citizens that would rather have the Soldiers of Odin leave matters to the government.
There's still plenty fighting on behalf of refugees (celebrity endorsements included). Statistics can be used skew any point of view. I'd hardly call 14% a 'surge' and groups that fight for their own nation called 'Hate Groups' is the new trend.
It's more than a culture clash and more and more people are just coming to that realization.
It just pisses me off that the super power that we once were is now seemingly a mockery of other nations.
I've always found Ethnic Nationalism fascinating. It's just a form of statism. While I don't share Ayn Rand's moral outrage over evil dictators and genocide, I can't help but wonder what identification with the state produces on the microcosmic level.
My son is also in the military. There's a chance he'll also be sent overseas to throw bombs in brown people's countries. What benefit will this manifest for me? I'm no longer directly involved in the war business, so it just seems rather idealistic.
On the Macro, war is economy. Conflict produces distractions to slide more legislation under the door and attempts to justify tax theft. Check the defense budget, things aren't always as they seem. Both of our children could also get pink slips but the NSA and Homeland Security get the funding needed to track the 'bad guys'. Bad guys doing bad deeds like giving the UN the middle finger.
In other news, Obama is off to China and Cuba to prevent both from gaining power over their own military defenses.
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#105668 - 02/26/16 05:12 PM
Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness
[Re: SIN3]
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Czereda
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Registered: 03/14/11
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Loc: Poland
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There's still plenty fighting on behalf of refugees (celebrity endorsements included). Statistics can be used skew any point of view. I'd hardly call 14% a 'surge' and groups that fight for their own nation called 'Hate Groups' is the new trend.
Perhaps, as you say, it really does depend on the country. In mine, all the statistics show that the majority of Poles don't want refugees here. It's not much different when it comes to the "elites" i.e., politicians, journalists, various activists, celebrities etc. There are plenty who rage not as much against the refugees themselves as Germans trying to force all the other EU countries to take them in. It all depends on what we are shown on TV and which points of view are presented. Some are shown more often than others and it may give us a false impression that such views are embraced by the majority of the society, which doesn't have to be and often is not true.
As for the "hate groups", this devil is much demonized and hard to combat. It's an old story but it continues today. Years ago, there was a lot of talk about the Polish section of Blood and Honor and its shit list of "traitors to the white race", which included many politicians, leftist or gay activists, prominent members of the Jewish community etc. Their personal info and photos, all of which was publicly known anyway, were put on Red Watch website together with some vulgar comments. The site has also its British sister and both are put on the American server.
There was a lot of outrage and appeals to close down the website in Britain and Poland. The site in Poland was called a death list in the news as the admins posted plenty of veiled threats. The website was closed down twice due to the cooperation of the Polish police and FBI but each time it came back in another place and on another server. The third time FBI refused to help giving the first amendment as an excuse but I suspect they simply threw up their hands. The site was under the DDOS attack for a while, its admins were arrested and given short prison sentences but it didn't help. The site is still up and regularly updated.
But as I wrote, it's old news. Today the hot news are the Muslim terrorists.
Edited by Czereda (02/26/16 05:15 PM)
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#108503 - 09/07/16 04:16 AM
Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness
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CanisMachina42
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Registered: 08/10/13
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Loc: Ca
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Political Correctness = Witch Hunt against political opposition.
For when someone says something you don't like, another flavor of moral indignation. Thou shalt not tolerate intolerance.
To generalize:
If moral superiority and religious righteousness is the weapon of the god fearing conservative, then political correctness is the counter weapon of the bleeding heart liberal.
The difference between betting red vs. black in roulette, the house still wins.
Go bicameral democracy!
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