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#104071 - 11/25/15 04:15 PM Hate Speech And Political Correctness
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Political correctness is one of the engines of nannyism. Allowing and even encouraging 'offensive' ideas is vital for the intellectually health of a free society.~ David Harsanyi

These days everyone is so afraid of being called "sexist" or "racist" or "anti-Semitic" or some other career-killing label, that we all tiptoe carefully around diversity issues, and avoid them altogether if we possibly can.

The Problem With Political Correctness

In this article, the author writes about the crawling censorship done in the name of tolerance. Some topics become taboo so as not to offend anyone. Yet, people who cross the line of the so-called political correctness are themselves insulted and called denigrating names, like fascists, racists and sexists. Often, their only fault is expressing unpopular opinions. So no tolerance to the "enemies" of tolerance?

What are your thoughts on political correctness and the so-called hate speech?


Edited by Czereda (11/25/15 04:21 PM)
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#104086 - 11/26/15 11:38 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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I absolutely hate what political correctness has become. From my perspective the idea behind it is to have some considerations for others, and refrain from offending them simply for the sake of being offensive.

I try to be a gentlemen and somewhat considerate of others. For instance if I wish to light a cigarette (where it is still allowed) and there are people around me, even if it is outside, I will ask if anyone minds if I smoke.
On the other hand, if I see a non smoking sign, far away from a building, or I am informed that even if I'm alone in it, I cant even smoke in my car, not only do I light up if I feel the desire, but seem to enjoy that cigarette a lot more \:\)


However, within the last few years, I find myself less and less considerate, because I feel that my opinions (some shared on here, some not) tend to be offensive to at least some people, but instead of them shrugging it off, or asking that I not discuss my views in front of them, they, instead, attempt to censor me through some of the methods stated, such as name calling, accusations that have nothing to do with the opinion itself and so on.

At this time I'm at the point where I rarely censor myself if my opinion is asked, or if a subject is brought up in conversation.

However, unfortunately many of us are not in a position where we can afford to be competently ostracized by certain groups; mostly employers and coworkers. (Co workers might not have the ability to fire anyone, but they can make false accusations and start a shit storm in one form or another.

I feel that those people who we have to be politically correct in front of, where we cannot express our true beliefs or ideas, are not worth being around, and in my case, I attempt to avoid them completely if possible, and if not possible, to have as minimal contact with them as I can manage.
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#105028 - 01/08/16 05:25 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Asmedious]
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There is two kind of correctness which do not resonate well together. First is the political culture of politics where all your saying has to be covered to so soft package you can´t say anything because it offends somebody somewhere.

This easily leads to self censorship where you just don´t say what you think cause you have to be friend of everybody.

Other form of correctness is to say what you think, but try to express yourself without mean bullying and telling where to go off.

First kind of correctness in my eyes is quite useless, but second one tells more about your abilities to express yourself and may be very useful.

After all, you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar
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#105127 - 01/16/16 04:22 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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I generally don't care when I hurt someones feeble feelings.
I can take pride in certain insults... if they're creative enough otherwise they're simply ignored.

Nothing is taboo in my books. Un-settling, perhaps, but open for discussion. If the things aren't liked it is generally advised to not search for it and start screaming against it.

From what I notice, people jump on the political correctness-wagon out of sheer peer-pressure. In reality they're equally big suckers who like to make those "incorrect" jokes (and if we be honest... those are generally the best ones).
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#105208 - 01/24/16 10:17 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Dimitri]
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I think that there are suitable times for suitable conversations and/or jokes.
For example, making a rape joke to someone who is just telling you of them being raped; is not a suitable time to make such jokes; however it isn't 'wrong'. Tasteless, yes; wrong, no.
I hate how PC the world is; don't say something you may offend someone; fuck that.
Even the whole thing with Ricky Gervais at the golden globes with his Caitlyn/Bruce Jenner joke being un-PC. Who cares? He's a comedian, its what they do, and was hardly 'mean'.
Just my 2 cents.
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#105243 - 01/26/16 06:02 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Satanic Princess]
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General reply:

I've seen it on Facebook posted by one of the buddies:

‘Hitler was right’: Fascist protesters stormed city centre yesterday

It is about a small rally of the political activists, called Fascists by the general public, from the National Action, which is a British nationalist group. I don't really want to use the term "Fascist" or "Neo-Nazi" because all too often I have an impression that everyone who dares to express unpopular opinions in public is called a Fascist so that this word has become meaningless. Anyway, they had banners "Hitler was right" and "The refugees not welcome." They were also seen giving "spine-chilling Nazi salutes."

Not many of them but they were spotted by the Jewish News:

Sieg-heiling neo-Nazis demonstrate with ‘Hitler Was Right’ banner

It seems they didn't face any legal troubles for "inciting hatred" and that reminds me about some bigger demonstration of the Polish Nationalists some time ago, when they burned the effigy of a Jew. They weren't punished although some sanctimonious people demanded it.

I just wonder what is so outrageous about giving a Sieg Heil salute or burning a Jewish mascot? In Poland, during various demonstrations, it sometimes happens that people burn an effigy of some politician and nobody makes a fuss about it.

I also think that the reason for the Nationalism becoming trendy is the refugee crisis and the inability of the politicians to deal with it. The anti-immigrant demonstrations aside, there are also cases of violence against immigrants. Then, there comes the political correctness in the form of censorship. When the women in Cologne were sexually abused the police and mainstream media kept silent about it for a couple of days. The crimes committed by the Muslim immigrants were also a taboo earlier. It's not only the matter of the love rhetoric but also the fear of social unrest and the exposure of the ugly truth that multi-culturalism doesn't work. Political correctness and all the attempts at banning the so-called hate speech are usually a cover for the governments' impotence or cowardice.
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#105245 - 01/26/16 06:30 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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The journalist at the first linked article couldn't even get their facts straight.

"As if enough parallels hadn’t already been drawn between National Action and yesteryear German’s Nazi party, they also have a memorable symbol, which echoes the Nazi swastika: an N and an A entwined with each other inside a circle, with the end of the ‘N’ forming a lightning bolt."

The symbol is shown at the second link. It's nothing like a swastika. It's an adaptation of the emblem used by the SA. That connection says a lot more about what National Action is trying to be.
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#105256 - 01/27/16 10:51 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Kori Houghton]
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Hitler was indeed right. The Western world is finally starting to rebel against the yoke of the ZOG, which has become openly ethnocidal against us. This is the real struggle underlying much of the news, which is of course being covered up in the ZOGmedia. The European peoples have been targeted for a final solution by the ZOG Pax Amerikana and their aggressive negrification propaganda. Whites fought a civil war in the 1940s that only benefited Jews and brought invasions of our lands by non-whites. But Trump has gone off the ZOG reservation, and European peoples will soon be fighting in their streets against invaders. These are historic times; time to awaken from your ZOG-induced slumber, arise and fight for your people, your pride and your future, white man!

Want to be a real Satanist today? Burn an effigy of a Jew or sieg-heil down the street. Fuck phony Jew Satanism; all heil Nazi Satanism!


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#105257 - 01/27/16 11:13 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Brother Nihil]
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and European peoples will soon be fighting in their streets against invaders.


I agree. The influx of Muslims into Europe has created a rising tide of unrest. However, the ZOG machine only benefits from the fighting, as it perpetuates the idea of Jew righteousness. To truly stop the Zionist takeover Europe must accept the Muslims with open arms and implement sharia law post haste.

That will solve the Jewish problem.

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#105552 - 02/17/16 03:39 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: CanisMachina42]
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It has become such a political mess with all of the crap going on its almost a joke. We have North Korea still doing whatever they want to do, we have Russia trying to wage war on whoever they want and ISIS still terrorizing the world. Not to mention all the rest of the shit going on. I have a feeling as this gits worse with ISIS we will see many countries get more strict and grow their militaries as we need too again. And start standing up for themselves hopefully instead of us always coming to the rescue.
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#105553 - 02/17/16 10:27 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: manofsteel]
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 Originally Posted By: mos
We have North Korea still doing whatever they want to do


I find that an admirable quality and don't lose sleep over it. Why do you?

It's mostly a war of words. South Korea officially announced the inevitable collapse of North Korea, so naturally its figure heads will respond.

Putin isn't one to pussyfoot around the issues either and for that he gains more admiration and support.

"Hate Speech" and "Political Correctness" has turned people soft, complacent and into people pleasers. When does anything worthwhile get done walking on egg-shells?

The Soldiers of Odin are getting flak for being "Nazis" even if only one person has any affiliation but you know what? The rest the group doesn't distance themselves from it because of the bad press. They use 'Hate Speech' and 'Political Incorrectness' and spread their message. They don't beat around the bush, they speak their mind, patrol the streets to have a presence.



The response has been pretty reactive. The group has been trolled with hugs and clowns. They've been called racists, NeoNazis, and proponents of hate crimes. Big deal.

True Finns get the message.

 Originally Posted By: mos
I have a feeling as this gits worse with ISIS we will see many countries get more strict and grow their militaries as we need too again. And start standing up for themselves hopefully instead of us always coming to the rescue.


In other words, OBEY and Big Brother takes care of you.

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#105556 - 02/17/16 11:07 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: SIN3]
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I have a friend who's pretty much become insufferable due to her political correctness, up to the point I don't even like hanging around her anymore. She's always complaining about the unfairness of the world and how people with "incorrect" opinions are screwing us all.

The problem with this sort of people is not realizing they're doing more harm than good, failing to understand that HUMANS can't be politically correct all the time. This white washing of humanity is disgusting and repulses me more than anything the politically incorrect sorts could say.
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#105562 - 02/17/16 06:27 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: SIN3]
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The response has been pretty reactive. The group has been trolled with hugs and clowns. They've been called racists, NeoNazis, and proponents of hate crimes. Big deal.


Dunno about that. The thing is that a lot has changed due to the refugee crisis at least in Europe. The proponents of political correctness, tolerance and love rhetoric seem now to be in minority as more and more people, including the members of governments, realize that some strict measures have to undertaken to stop the flood of the immigrants. "Let's sit round the fire with our beloved Muslims and hold hands together" rhetoric is no longer trendy, especially after Paris attacks and the cases of sexual abuse in Germany. Of course, there are still some leftist liberal activists and politicians who claim that we can't associate the "poor refugees" with terrorists and rapists but it doesn't sell as well as it used to.

The nationalist movements gain sympathy but it's more due to the external circumstances; the refugee crisis, the political tensions within the EU, the individual countries' divergent interests than to their own efforts. Although one must give them the credit that they speak what the general public wants to hear. Is that really swimming against the current? The "red enemy" is weak now.

Besides, they are law abiding creatures just like the establishment they oppose. National Action clearly states on their website that they respect the law of the land. Polish nationalists are hard-core Catholics. These people can be extremely self-righteous. Safe avant-garde - painting prison walls.
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#105568 - 02/18/16 01:02 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: SIN3]
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I don't lose any sleep over it. It just pisses me off that the super power that we once were is now seemingly a mockery of other nations. My son is in the US Army and it has become a joke as 4 times now he has been told he will be deployed to a different location due to all of these messes and every time it has been taken back. I am happy he is home safe but the fact is that we change our stance like people change underwear. At least until lately, now the world is aware we aren't don't anything to stop ISIS. I agree with you about Putin, what he sais he will do he does and I can admire that. And that is why he has respect of his people.
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#105569 - 02/18/16 01:08 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: SIN3]
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Hate Speech" and "Political Correctness" has turned people soft, complacent and into people pleasers. When does anything worthwhile get done walking on egg-shells?

This is what you said in your response, my feeling is that we, well not we but our leaders have gotten so political that it's not about doing what is right anymore. Screw eggshells, smash them. I do agree with you though that has become how they all react I just think that's why it's time for change and I'm tired of people with no backbone.
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#105574 - 02/18/16 10:09 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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 Originally Posted By: CZ
Dunno about that. The thing is that a lot has changed due to the refugee crisis at least in Europe.


A lot? I'd say it's moderate at this point. While there has been a change in sentiment towards the policy on Muslim Refugees, there's also been a step up in combating 'Islamophobia'. Mama Merkel is taking a hit for her flip-floppy politics (among others) and it really depends on the country. Even in Germany where sexual harassment by refugees has become pretty common, there's still a percentage of citizens that would rather have the Soldiers of Odin leave matters to the government.

There's still plenty fighting on behalf of refugees (celebrity endorsements included). Statistics can be used skew any point of view. I'd hardly call 14% a 'surge' and groups that fight for their own nation called 'Hate Groups' is the new trend.

It's more than a culture clash and more and more people are just coming to that realization.

 Originally Posted By: mos
It just pisses me off that the super power that we once were is now seemingly a mockery of other nations.


I've always found Ethnic Nationalism fascinating. It's just a form of statism. While I don't share Ayn Rand's moral outrage over evil dictators and genocide, I can't help but wonder what identification with the state produces on the microcosmic level.

My son is also in the military. There's a chance he'll also be sent overseas to throw bombs in brown people's countries. What benefit will this manifest for me? I'm no longer directly involved in the war business, so it just seems rather idealistic.

On the Macro, war is economy. Conflict produces distractions to slide more legislation under the door and attempts to justify tax theft. Check the defense budget, things aren't always as they seem. Both of our children could also get pink slips but the NSA and Homeland Security get the funding needed to track the 'bad guys'. Bad guys doing bad deeds like giving the UN the middle finger.

In other news, Obama is off to China and Cuba to prevent both from gaining power over their own military defenses.





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#105595 - 02/19/16 12:06 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: manofsteel]
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 Originally Posted By: manofsteel
I agree with you about Putin, what he sais he will do he does and I can admire that. And that is why he has respect of his people.

I just love that Putin dgaf. I mean, look at this:

"I am OUTRAGED! I WILL NOT BE SILENCED! I PROTEST WITH WORDS SCRAWLED ACROSS MY NEKKID BODY!"
Putin: Nice rack. Two thumbs up.
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#105600 - 02/19/16 02:58 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Ask yourself who these vile women are and who is funding them. You'll find that groups like Pussy Riot are almost all being covertly backed by the International Subversive Zio-Banker Dajjal Minions who dominate the West, and who see Putin's post-Bolshevik, re-Christianizing Russia as the greatest obstacle to their Satanic New World Order. Of course, most "Satanic" groups like the Satanic Temple are also being backed by these Minions. Wherever you find degenerate behavior being celebrated, materialism elevated over religion and nations and races being subverted, the Minions are behind it. The Conspiracy is vast, diabolical and in its final stages. The Minions await the arrival of their Master -- the Dajjal -- the one-eyed imposter Messiah who will make Israel the capitol of a global Satanic Empire, but who will later be cut in half by the returned Jesus (son of Mary).

So you see, even a simple picture like this has a very big story behind it, for those with eyes to see.


Edited by Brother Nihil (02/19/16 03:02 PM)

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#105601 - 02/19/16 04:46 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Brother Nihil]
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 Originally Posted By: Brother Nihil
Ask yourself who these vile women are and who is funding them.


I was wondering if you could maybe back up some your assertions about the funding of these groups? You seem to have some kind of line on information. Let's see some receipts or invoices. Certainly an operation as large as you describe would be tax deductable. Tis the season.

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#105614 - 02/21/16 12:40 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: SIN3]
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"In other news, Obama is off to China and Cuba to prevent both from gaining power over their own military defenses."

SIN3, your above statement is completely correct but hey, at least he's not off playing golf of some shit this time. We can at least say that much this time around. Or maybe he did, who knows.....
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#105634 - 02/22/16 11:41 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: satan.edu]
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It's not exactly new or off mark.

I still feel pretty confident that male circumcision was a Rabbinic Conspiracy concocted for the benefit of Women.

 Originally Posted By: BroNil
Wherever you find degenerate behavior being celebrated, materialism elevated over religion and nations and races being subverted, the Minions are behind it. The Conspiracy is vast, diabolical and in its final stages. The Minions await the arrival of their Master -- the Dajjal -- the one-eyed imposter Messiah who will make Israel the capitol of a global Satanic Empire, but who will later be cut in half by the returned Jesus (son of Mary).


This Youtuber didn't get the punchline either. The Palestinians are the most familiar with Satan and all of his minions.

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#105668 - 02/26/16 05:12 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: SIN3]
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There's still plenty fighting on behalf of refugees (celebrity endorsements included). Statistics can be used skew any point of view. I'd hardly call 14% a 'surge' and groups that fight for their own nation called 'Hate Groups' is the new trend.


Perhaps, as you say, it really does depend on the country. In mine, all the statistics show that the majority of Poles don't want refugees here. It's not much different when it comes to the "elites" i.e., politicians, journalists, various activists, celebrities etc. There are plenty who rage not as much against the refugees themselves as Germans trying to force all the other EU countries to take them in. It all depends on what we are shown on TV and which points of view are presented. Some are shown more often than others and it may give us a false impression that such views are embraced by the majority of the society, which doesn't have to be and often is not true.

As for the "hate groups", this devil is much demonized and hard to combat. It's an old story but it continues today. Years ago, there was a lot of talk about the Polish section of Blood and Honor and its shit list of "traitors to the white race", which included many politicians, leftist or gay activists, prominent members of the Jewish community etc. Their personal info and photos, all of which was publicly known anyway, were put on Red Watch website together with some vulgar comments. The site has also its British sister and both are put on the American server.

There was a lot of outrage and appeals to close down the website in Britain and Poland. The site in Poland was called a death list in the news as the admins posted plenty of veiled threats. The website was closed down twice due to the cooperation of the Polish police and FBI but each time it came back in another place and on another server. The third time FBI refused to help giving the first amendment as an excuse but I suspect they simply threw up their hands. The site was under the DDOS attack for a while, its admins were arrested and given short prison sentences but it didn't help. The site is still up and regularly updated.

But as I wrote, it's old news. Today the hot news are the Muslim terrorists.


Edited by Czereda (02/26/16 05:15 PM)
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#105773 - 03/06/16 11:31 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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I am completely against left wing politically "correct" movements. I have no problem with hate speech at all. I believe that people should be able to say whatever they want, and that people should be able to say whatever they want back. Sort of a verbal anarchy. Also, I do not view the Confederate flag or the Swastika as any form of "hate speech". Hate speech would be more like actually insulting someone. Either way, it's all just words.

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#105790 - 03/08/16 02:12 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: IronWizard]
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Are you sure about your statement?

I'm on the other side really. People should not always be able to say what they want. Just by reason many people are inexperienced in their ways and try to vocalize their small shred of knowledge whilst lacking the greater experience part.

People chat to much IMO. Chattering tends to indicate a passionate inexperience and stupidity.
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#105793 - 03/08/16 02:34 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Dimitri]
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People say some dumb shit, to be sure, but I think the way to address it is to ignore them or debunk them, not set up some kind of system for pre-screening or standards for what is and is not acceptable.

Edited by XiaoGui17 (03/08/16 02:46 PM)
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#105799 - 03/09/16 02:18 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: XiaoGui17]
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That would be post-phoning idiocy. Neither am I a fan of enforced regulation of "what is" and "what is not". I simply like it more when people get shot down as soon as the nonsense start dribbeling.

People never learn unless there's an interest and willingness.
Debunking is a futile exercise as almost all people are set in their ways. They need to "evolve" on their own terms.
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#108495 - 09/06/16 04:24 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Dimitri]
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Political Correctness = Witch Hunt against political opposition.
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#108503 - 09/07/16 04:16 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Coligula]
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Political Correctness = Witch Hunt against political opposition.


For when someone says something you don't like, another flavor of moral indignation. Thou shalt not tolerate intolerance.

To generalize:

If moral superiority and religious righteousness is the weapon of the god fearing conservative, then political correctness is the counter weapon of the bleeding heart liberal.

The difference between betting red vs. black in roulette, the house still wins.

Go bicameral democracy!

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#108556 - 09/10/16 10:37 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Liberals and religious conservatives: a false dichotomy.

If I had to choose one, I would rather choose go to hell instead of than beign a racist nazi supremacist that hates jew-muslims.


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#108573 - 09/10/16 07:03 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Coligula]
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Going to Hell is a kind of supremacy that supersedes racism. It is a sort of invocation when all political arguments collide with a wall.
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#108637 - 09/13/16 12:58 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: fiendish]
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I think people who live by PC are trained monkeys... Trained so well in fact that they now work emphatically to train and tame the next generation of monkeys without even understanding why they are doing it.

PC is a way to take away a persons identity. Once a person's identity has been removed is becomes much easier to assign them a new one. It is now considered offensive to sing our National anthem in Australia's public schools. If you read the lyrics there is nothing offensive in it - it mainly talks about the landscape. The only other thing it says is Advance Australia's Fair which if you find offensive I have to wonder why the fuck you came here.

Military emblems are being removed... Soldiers aren't allowed to wear their uniforms in certain places.

It is also being discouraged for teachers to refer to their students as boys and girls as this is apparently offensive and damaging to transgender children. Even an all girls school was told not to refer to the students as girls.

People are being homogenised and having their identities taken away from them. And they are being taught not to trust their instincts...

When that first wave of (70% male military aged) refugees arrived in Europe I got a sick feeling in my gut. If I was there, the hair would have stood up on the back of my neck. And being a woman, I would have found a big ol' tree to hide behind. If your gut tells you that something is wrong, than something is probably wrong. People are being taught to ignore their gut and squash that primal sense of fear that exists in us for self-preservation. PC has created a fear of fear.

PC is teaching people that they don't have a country... They don't have a sex... and that they can't trust their own gut... amongst all sorts of other self-identifying stuff. PC is preparing people to be NWO monkeys.
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#108652 - 09/13/16 04:56 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: ShadowLover]
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Besides anthropomorphism , actually what's most frightening is that everybody is knowing very well what they're doing. The NWO is a euphemism . It is rather a WC (world context) where everything is shuffled in a huge cauldron, then are served with fancy names which really mean nothing.
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#108788 - 09/17/16 07:41 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: ShadowLover]
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People are being taught to ignore their gut and squash that primal sense of fear that exists in us for self-preservation.


I don't think self-preservation instinct and territoriality can be eradicated. Multiculturalism, cosmopolitanism and political correctness can work unobstructed in times of peace and prosperity. But when the economic or social crisis is looming on the horizon, national egoism comes before the interests of any international organization. We can observe it in Europe, where there wouldn't be a rise in the popularity of the radical right if it wasn't first for the economic crisis and then the migration crisis. The United Kingdom has already waved goodbye to the European Union and it's only a matter of time when other countries will start taking a similar move into consideration. The problem of immigrants makes the lack of unity even more visible. The countries which had an irresponsible immigration policy appeal now to the European solidarity while other countries respond: Hey, it's your problem, not ours.
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#111111 - 01/08/17 12:15 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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I must say I don't know which is more annoying, people who insist on censorship to shelter themselves or the phenomena that has occurred in which basement dwelling racists dedicate their lives to aggravating these people. Being offended is indeed a choice, but when any semblance of your personality has become enshrouded in "offensive memes" (gag) and angst... No one will want to be around you.

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#111114 - 01/08/17 01:37 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: satyr9]
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The only reason the basement racist has a voice is because the jew media makes sure all "hate speech" is scapegoated and universally condemned. The Holocaust only happened 75 years ago!

We must constantly be reminded ideologies of hate still exist. We must all learn to hate those that don't love!

I must have failed that part about not being a dick.

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#111134 - 01/08/17 04:06 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: satyr9]
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I must say I don't know which is more annoying, people who insist on censorship to shelter themselves or the phenomena that has occurred in which basement dwelling racists dedicate their lives to aggravating these people.


Nationalist types can indeed be hateful, even violent, but this problem has been blown out of proportion. Europe is haunted by the nightmare of the World War II and Holocaust but history of humankind has witnessed plenty of wars and holocausts. Anti-fascists scream "never again" but it's wishful thinking. Censoring the so-called hate-speech will not prevent potential war or genocide. Hate and violence are part of human nature.
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#111142 - 01/09/17 11:48 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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Besides, AntiFA has been getting more press lately. What better way to combat hate and violence than with more hate and violence?

Groups like them tow the PC party-line as a political device for precisely the same activity. You don't talk about Fight Club.
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#111154 - 01/09/17 05:44 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: SIN3]
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Oh, I can't stand AntiFa... Dumbasrses! Most of them honestly don't see that what they do, attempting to silence the people by bulling and violence, is part of Fascism.

Fortunately, I think most people have woken up to them, and even most of the leftier lefties I know no longer promote their stuff.

They show up at the anti-Islam protests and proove to be the most violent trouble makers there. God forbid someone else should have an opinion!
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#111292 - 01/23/17 05:29 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: ShadowLover]
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After I heard of some strange news about pewdiepie, I started to watch his channel. And I like how he is triggering everyone (both sides).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61686cq6s7c

Antifa people: Maybe they are trouble makers that find a way to get away with consequences, maybe they are brain dead because of drugs, maybe they are hired puppets... something like that. It's nothing that soap can't take care of.


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#111301 - 01/24/17 04:42 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: ShadowLover]
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Antfa's Black Bloc (inauguration day) didn't go off as planned. If not for lighting that limo on fire, they probably could have just disappeared as per usual. But nope, over 100 arrests were made and given the breadth of the damages, they are facing serious charges.

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They show up at the anti-Islam protests and proove to be the most violent trouble makers there. God forbid someone else should have an opinion!


Nah see, the destruction and violence is all part of a strategy. While the press and gen-pop is hard-focused on that, others (part of their group) move in. It's subterfuge.
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#115432 - 12/24/17 04:20 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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Well said, hate, murder, rape, genocide, all of these are natural. People like to pretend we're not animals, yet we're slightly more intelligent than bonobos.

We need a nuclear winter to cull most of the animals on this planet, with biotechnology we can replace what we consider to be important in time.
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#115459 - 12/26/17 11:53 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Ubermensch23]
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That won't change what brought on the chaos in the first place. One must address the cause. Technology seems to be making things worse, as it stands.
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#115480 - 12/28/17 05:34 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Not really. Human error is the problem, mentalities that don't blend with the technologically advanced era in which we exist, that is what the problem is. People still act like we were in the stone age, living in denial that some people are more intelligent than others, which is why democracy is shit, and monarchy and autocracy will never return since the fools determine everything for now.

People want to have many children like in the old days, but that has become irrelevant, biological immortality will be achieved in 30 - 40 years. We also don't need large numbers of people for labour, or to maintain our way of life with the advancement of AI and automation. It's not technology that is to blame, it is the common people.
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#115538 - 01/15/18 02:11 AM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Ubermensch23]
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Hear the vagina hats are now imploding, with a portion of them refusing to wear the hat because it isn't representative of women with brown lady bits, or women with penises...

Seriously... Give me strength! Bahahaha!
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#115540 - 01/15/18 05:10 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Czereda]
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If one had to worry about one’s actions in respect of other people’s ideas, one might as well be buried alive in an antheap or married to an ambitious violinist. Whether that man is the prime minister, modifying his opinions to catch votes, or a bourgeois in terror lest some harmless act should be misunderstood and outrage some petty convention, that man is an inferior man and I do not want to have anything to do with him any more than I want to eat canned salmon.
Of course the world forces us all to compromise with our environment to some extent, and we only waste our strength if we fight pitched battles for points which are not worth a skirmish. It is only a faddist who refuses to conform with conventions of dress and the like. But our sincerity should be Roman about things that really matter to us.

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#115541 - 01/15/18 06:49 PM Re: Hate Speech And Political Correctness [Re: Ubermensch23]
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Human error, hence my comment about addressing the cause.

I think people blend right into the technological world just fine. Almost everyone has a phone, toddlers are able to use them better than their parents.

I don't blame democracy either, I actually don't believe it is in effect as much as others would like to. I do agree, there are many foolish decisions being made by people in control, and also by the mass public.

Immortality in 30-40 years, you can't know this. I also believe that we have more capability to mass produce with automation and AI. Problem is, that conflicts with a social system that requires people to work. But people work a lot and still have a hard time getting by.

My whole point was actually just that. Technology does not rid us of our innate destructive nature, it often works to further that end.
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