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#106072 - 04/01/16 04:16 AM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: LordBlyat]
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\:\( awww, dude! you're at least likeable, LB. Highly amusing.

As for dying for idea(l)s - at a certain point everyone will eventually have to handle this somehow or another. The real issue is, though, that it's not supposed to be something "sought-after" or whatever - that's a trap, and an obvious one. There are no satanic ideals, only satanic___ umm___ (for lack of a better word) dispositions. Or maybe the people that swear by that, and to the contrary, have nothing to live for, anyway. It's a lot of "would"/"could"/"should"/"thou shalt".

It all sounds good on paper, but damn! Putting what you have done to pen is highly incriminating. For the record, I wouldn't hurt a flea. All lives matter. Etc.

As for the soul part, and the selling thereof, I'm not convinced that they are intrinsic. Souls are earned, and rather painfully, at that.

In more positive news, we're already dead \:\) There's nothing to fear or "get-over-with". I promise.

Whether or not we are alive, is the real question that, sooner or later, everyone will have to confront.

As for psuedo-intellectuals... I can assure you that I am definitely not the brightest bulb in the box (except when it comes to very specific subject-areas), but as it stands right now I'm currently (and seriously) reconsidering the notion that "intellectuals" even exist. On the one hand, I wouldn't know about them unless they spent their time writing, and on the other hand it gets recursively absurd to analyze that, rather than putting their intelligence to use, they instead prefer to write. Plus! Who in their right-mind would publish their personal trade-secrets?

I basically chock-it-up to recreation/personal amusement and killing-time until the inevitable end that awaits all.
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#106074 - 04/01/16 08:17 AM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: antikarmatomic]
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As for psuedo-intellectuals...


Damn, Ms LordBlyat is right. We are pseudo-intellectuals. We waste our time on this stupid forum discussing and debating all things Satanic and it does shit to push Satanism further. Fuck it, it's pointless. It's high time we got down to work and for once did something useful and really diabolical. I have an excellent idea.

You and me. We will set up a fake O9A website but it must look like a genuine one, preferably with Wordpress software so that the idiots won't notice something is off, and we will be encouraging people to commit suicide. Of course, we must be convincing enough. We will write something to the effect of:

Those pseudo-Satanic posers don't have the guts to commit suicide. The man of truly Satanic character will not hesitate to blow his brains out to prove to his kindred he's sinister enough.

This is a Test. Push your limits and pull the trigger. If you fail, you will prove yourself a Mundane.

Kill yourself or you're a pleb.

Something like this. We must work on the style to make it similar to the style of those O9A Wordpressers. The most important thing is to convince the idiots that they just HAVE TO kill themselves to prove they are worthy enough for the O9A, that they are the elite.

I'm good at creative writing (even DD has admitted this) and you're a tech guy. Together we will manage to accomplish this vile sinister deed.

We will end up sitting on a huge pile of dead bodies and it will be awesome!

I'm so enthusiastic AK! Let's do it now!!!


Edited by Czereda (04/01/16 08:25 AM)
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#106075 - 04/01/16 08:51 AM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: Czereda]
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So is this O9A meets TOBL?

Even though I'm being deliberately kept out of The No Homers Club (and I'm totally jealous), I am still compelled to ask, When one offs themselves do they get posthumously recognized as a true satanist? What about their leftovers?

Why stop at just a mountain of skulls and dead bodies? Make a little money off harvested organs, but be sure you have them kill themselves in a way that doesn't damage the money makers. Eyes, kidneys, heart, and lungs are the big 4.

Just be careful with wording. The Church of Euthanasia holds the rights to "Save the world, kill yourself", don't think it will be an issue though.

Anyway, I put my full support behind whatever the fuck it is you people are doing.

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#106076 - 04/01/16 08:54 AM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: Czereda]
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I agree with you Anna. Though you lack the diabolical desire and that what it's all about. You can't just pretend, it's something you have to feel, to live, to BE. If niggas not feeling the wordless essence, you're screwed!

Also, it's real difficult to compete with the ToB trippy boys, they scrach the skin off their whole arm and post it with a full bled copy of 333 on fagbook. Do you possess their Pathei Mathos???

There's a lot of points to consider, remember - it's a lunatic fringe!

This aggression will not stand, man! This aggression against the sinister current ....


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#106081 - 04/01/16 11:53 AM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: Czereda]
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 Originally Posted By: CZ
I'm so enthusiastic AK! Let's do it now!!!
I am highly aroused by your wording - so much so that I don't even remember what your original plan was. Subsequently, whatever it is, you've got my full backing.
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#106086 - 04/01/16 06:09 PM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: CanisMachina42]
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 Originally Posted By: Canis
Why stop at just a mountain of skulls and dead bodies? Make a little money off harvested organs, but be sure you have them kill themselves in a way that doesn't damage the money makers. Eyes, kidneys, heart, and lungs are the big 4.


Oh Canis but that's a brilliant idea. I think we will initiate you into our shenanigans and we will share the profit equally. What say you?

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I am still compelled to ask, When one offs themselves do they get posthumously recognized as a true satanist?


Yes, we will honor them on our website as the true Satanic Warriors and show them as a worthy example with the hope more will follow. It's all for the show though. Meanwhile, we'll be counting the money. \:\)

 Originally Posted By: Enantiodromia
they scrach the skin off their whole arm


Yeah and we want to push people further: make them kill themselves for the Cause.

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This aggression will not stand, man! This aggression against the sinister current ....


No no... just no. You don't understand. We just wanna clean the park; take out the doggy poop.

 Originally Posted By: antikarmatomic
I am highly aroused by your wording


Oh dear I'd better hurry up. Just wait kaibigan ko, wait!


Edited by Czereda (04/01/16 06:12 PM)
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#106574 - 05/01/16 03:12 PM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: antikarmatomic]
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 Originally Posted By: antikarmatomic
There are no satanic ideals, only satanic___ umm___ (for lack of a better word) dispositions.


I think that is a very foolish statement. Satanic ideals are concerned with individual liberty and cultivating one's person utilizing logic with an eye on rational self-interest. Satanism is a amalgam and distillation of many world ideologies from Objectivism, the ideas of the (Western) Enlightenment to Confucianism but it does without a doubt encompass ideology, and that ideology is one of the most ideal-focused movements on the planet. It is exclusionary in nature due to this intense focus on ideals. In my opinion the pursuit of perfection has been the eternal flame of both Satanism and proto-Satanism.

There could be such a thing as Satanic dispositions and I am inclined to believe there might be, however it could never carry a movement as Satanic ideals have.

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#106590 - 05/01/16 10:56 PM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: 97and107]
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No. It's a symptom of an inflexible mind.

It's also a symptom of lack of self preservation.
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#106606 - 05/03/16 02:20 PM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: Fnord]
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It can be, it depends on how much value you put on your offspring. Some may self-sacrifice to save their own children, while others would most-likely allow them to die.

Still, I wouldn't even put a lot of stock in that idea because you just never know what you're really going to do until the moment presents itself. You can say to yourself: "Self-preservation is the highest law!" Then get killed while trying to save one your children.
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#112341 - 04/14/17 06:46 PM Re: Is there anybody here who would die for ideals [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Actually XiaoGui17, Pretoria isn't a wealthy area compared to Capetown, Johannesburg, or Kwazulu Natal. The low crime rates coincide with a larger Afrikaans population compared to any large city in South Africa, which results in more neighbourhood security and violence towards criminals. English-speaking areas are more exposed to violence because they are liberals, and as such do not mobilize or physically defend themselves, obviously there are exceptions.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/126047/south-africas-top-24-richest-towns-and-suburbs/

Now please tell me how many of these are in Pretoria? I'll tell you what is in Pretoria though, the Voortrekker Monument and a sizable Afrikaans community. Please stop telling me what my country is like, or reading government propaganda, the ANC are socialists/communists after all. Are you going to imply that there is no murder in paradise, as proposed by the Soviet Union at a stage too?

If South Africa is so great, why don't you immigrate here? After all it's your intervention into our country that got us here in the first place, and all for the sake of some cheaper minerals. I have nothing against you personally, however just as you supported our terrorists, I will support your terrorists. Bin Laden was a hero.
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