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#10582 - 08/10/08 05:09 PM Rollplaying
Vargvid Offline
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So anyone except me who is a big fan of rollplay?

Myself have playd tons of rollplaying games like Dungeons and dragons, Dragons and Demons, Vampire, Werewolf, Mutant, Warhammer 40.000 and so on. been playing for over 2-3 years now so ive playd alot, right now im playin with a couple of friends and my smaller brother.

Right now its Dragons and demons, with my Character Thorvald, a gladiator from Frostheim with specialism for Maces.

So what have you playd?
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#10585 - 08/10/08 07:54 PM Re: Rollplaying [Re: Vargvid]
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It has been my view that the majority of people that need to indulge in this kind of fantasy are lacking something in their life. That is usually why the nerds are the ones who play this they can wear anothers skin for a while and feel powerful when truly they are the victims of this world what is weaker then self delusion?. One can be a powerful person in game but when the game is over what is left, reality and their sad crappy victim life is what. Now this may not be you, this is just an observation overall

what i have noticed about you from your recent barrage of post's is that your view of Satanism is what blackmetal bands tell you it is. And while i do love blackmetal, they present a more theistic approach. When you actually devote your self to satan as a literal being how are you any better then the xian?. You are still claiming some one or something higher then yourself.

this is of course just what i have gleaned form reading your recent post,perhaps i am mistaken on you views?
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#10588 - 08/10/08 09:07 PM Re: Rollplaying [Re: rob_church]
Vargvid Offline
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About rollplaying, you do not have a clue what your talking about, right? Have you ever playd rollplaying games? No i aint talking about World of warcraft, or some crapy MMORPG. I am talking paper and pencil. Everything that you say is just..wrong wrong and more wrong. The most successfull people i know are rollplayers. You know why? Rollplaying gives you social-training. Specielly when you play more advanced games like dragons and demons. Its not just a click and point-game as on the computer there you got done diologs.

I think you should try it out, for me its to read a really good book but its you who comes up whats gonna happen in the book and to your characters. Try Dragons and demons, it aint a levelbased rollplaying and more of a social/thinking rollplaying game. You have to look between this "its only no-lifer nerds who plays rollplaying games".



Ive read the Satanic Bible and the message i got aint that we should follow someone, we should follow ourselfs. Satan gave the humans a freedom mind and the power to think by ourselfs. He didnt want to be a slave to the humans and made a uprise against god. (Sura 15, 28-42) He was kicked out bla bla bla oh well. My view is simply : live as you want to, stand up for yourself. If something fucks up, fix it yourself. Thats the only way to learn something by your misstakes and life itself. Satan wants you to learn something and to be a free and strong/healthy human. I do not devote myself to satan because i don't need him. I devote myself and thanks to that i feel to be something higher then people around me that have to devote themself to someone. I do not love myself and kiss my mirror every morning, but from my view satan guides me to find the right path. The path to be self-confident and happy with myself and my life. I drink, i fuck, i eat, sleep and pisses. Satan is happy to guide me to a better and happyer life.

And yeah i do love black metal (specially folk black and vikinga black) and i think you saw my reply about varg vikernes. It was mostly a joke, and also a message that he blowed up churches that have been standning there for i dont know really...900 years maybe more. And from the beginning wasnt a christian church. But nevermind about Varg and his happy adventures. But then black-metal and Satanism is just a big joke. "OH HAIL SATAN WE ARE TRUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEE!"

My view (of Satanism) and point is just : i am free, thats why i call myself a human, all thanks to someone that gave us a freemind.

But then personaly i do not believe in satan or god. I do not really understand how people can follow a book? No mather who wrote it. (the koran, bible, ect ect) But i enjoy the subject and wanna know more about it, specially when its about Church of Satan and rituals. I don't want people to look at me and think i should get the fuck out of here just because i do not believe in what you believe in. I want to know more about what you people believe in and make my own view from it. You all know how my view of Satanism is. And correct me if am wrong. I wont be angry and bite! ;D

i dont know really how well i wrote this post because iam kinda tierd (its 03:06 am here and i have to get up to work in about 4-5 hours).


Edited by Vargvid (08/10/08 09:14 PM)
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#10598 - 08/11/08 08:22 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: Vargvid]
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Time for somebody to move out of mom's basement....
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#10600 - 08/11/08 08:35 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
Time for somebody to move out of mom's basement....


Whenever i get the money for it, babe!


Edited by Vargvid (08/11/08 08:36 AM)
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#10601 - 08/11/08 08:39 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: Fist]
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I think Rob Church was talking about the pencil and paper game. If he wasn't, I am.

You said you want to know what we think. Here it goes: It is better to develop power than to fantasize about it.

If you just want to play a game for entertainment, that's fine. That's the part we don't really know about you. But I've seen a lot of people take this way beyond an occasional pastime. They shut themselves in on friday nights, and wear clothes that are best described as "cock blocking".

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#10602 - 08/11/08 08:58 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: coelentrate]
Vargvid Offline
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I've also seen alot of people who take rollplaying a bit to serious, thats people that you do not want to rollplay with anyways because they take it to serious. They even take it personaly if i offend him in games and thats whats wrong with them.

I don't really get it why EVERYONE i talk rollplaying games with over the internet thinks rollplaying only are for nerds and just because there some people who takes it a bit to serious, Why would i do the same? Is that the view you get from example movies when you see a bunch of nerds playing dungeons and dragons? Fucking common? I know alot of rollplayers, everything from paper-pencil rpers to Live Action Role-Playing (almost like a reenactment) out in the woods or on the streets.

I play for the entertainment and askt if someone els did aswell. I think you people should try rollplaying sometime with your friends or a local rollplaying-organisation. It aint just nerds and as you call it coelentrate, "Cock blockers". You will be surprised.
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#10630 - 08/12/08 10:12 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: Vargvid]
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I just couldn't help my self, but it's role playing, not roll...
I played cyberpunk for a few years. Well, I still would if I only had the time. I tried D&D and another custom fantasy world, but didn't really like it, I like the games to have something based in reality and to know it could be possible so I can better relate to it. Spells and orcs don't really work for me.
What Rob said about guys who play role playing games is quite true on many occasions and what first comes even to my mind when talking about said people... Larp people I can't stand, they are so often nerds who dress in robes or some other funky fantasy shit even on streets... If not, there's something else very wrong with them...

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#10639 - 08/12/08 04:21 PM Re: Rollplaying [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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 Originally Posted By: MaggotFaceMoe
they are so often nerds who dress in robes or some other funky fantasy shit even on streets... If not, there's something else very wrong with them...

Like this guy…



The mastermind behind the compelling RPG “Empire of Satanis”

How is Derrick doing anyway VargVid?
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#10642 - 08/12/08 06:50 PM Re: Rollplaying [Re: ta2zz]
Vargvid Offline
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz

Like this guy…

http://www.cultofcthulhu.net/graphics/I-am-the-way.jpg

The mastermind behind the compelling RPG “Empire of Satanis”

How is Derrick doing anyway VargVid?




He was a real mastermind, ive never had that good toilet paper in my whole life.

"Oberinspektor" Derrick, is doing just fine.
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#10663 - 08/14/08 11:53 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: Vargvid]
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Registered: 03/17/08
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Loc: Near Montreal, QC
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You know why? Rollplaying gives you social-training. Specielly when you play more advanced games like dragons and demons. Its not just a click and point-game as on the computer there you got done diologs.


That's some real advanced shit you got going on there... Wow.. I bow to you oh master of the other realm.. It helps you with socializing.. Too bad it doesn't help out your speech, grammar, spelling.. Etc.. Games like these are great for socializing with other little kiddies who seem to be stuck on there mother's couch with no job or real friends to attend to.. Know another way to socialize? It's great.. It's called.. Stop playing these little games.. Go to school, work.. Maybe a walk outside once in awhile.. Join us in reality... Build your own life.. Not Thorvald's..


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You have to look between this "its only no-lifer nerds who plays rollplaying games".


You're right.. And in between we have.. "Lifeless, pathetic children, ignorant to the world around them, that must escape the shitty life they lead.." It's like house for older kids..


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Ive read the satanic bible and the message i got aint that we should follow someone, we should follow ourselfs. Satan gave the humans a freedom mind and the power to think by ourselfs. He didnt want to be a slave to the humans and made a uprise against god. (Sura 15, 28-42) He was kicked out bla bla bla oh well. My view is simply : live as you want to, stand up for yourself. If something fucks up, fix it yourself. Thats the only way to learn something by your misstakes and life itself. Satan wants you to learn something and to be a free and strong/healthy human. I do not devote myself to satan because i don't need him.



Clearly, you do not read it well enough.. It states in TSB to strengthen yourself, go out and conquer. If you had read enough, you would also know there is nothing about devoting yourself to Satan ANYWHERE in TSB. Instead, it is to devote yourself to yourself.. Your own life.. Your own goals..


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I do not love myself and kiss my mirror every morning, but from my view satan guides me to find the right path. The path to be self-confident and happy with myself and my life. I drink, i fuck, i eat, sleep and pisses. Satan is happy to guide me to a better and happyer life.


You do not worship Satan.. But he guides you.. Explain.. How do you think he guides you? You speak that he is happy to guide you.. Truly.. You should stop playing games.. Grow up.. and do some research. I can tell your still playing games, as I'm sure can the rest. Your views and statements are all in one, slightly contradicting.

Also, mind explaining why you don't kiss yourself in the morning? Why you don't love yourself?.. I can happily say that I DO love myself.. As would any true Satanist.. If you had truly read and understood TSB you would know why..


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And yeah i do love black metal (specially folk black and vikinga black) and i think you saw my reply about varg vikernes. It was mostly a joke, and also a message that he blowed up churches that have been standning there for i dont know really...900 years maybe more. And from the beginning wasnt a christian church. But nevermind about Varg and his happy adventures. But then black-metal and satanism is just a big joke. "OH HAIL SATAN WE ARE TRUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEE!"



The Black Metal Satanism they [Church Burners, (Active Satanists)] bring out in there music, does NOT necessarily represent their true, life view on Satanism. Stating it now, to have it in the open. Most know I do enjoy Black Metal, although I do not share the views on the Mythological/Mythical/Theistic/Traditional Satanism. But I must say... A choice between someone like Gaahl, a church-burner, And someone like you; from what I can see is some kid who plays pretend games to pass the time and actually believes it builds his social skills.. Also a kid who displays serious lack of knowledge on any form of Satanism.. Well.. I think I would rather Gaahl.. That is more true than you will ever see..


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My view (of satanism) and point is just : i am free, thats why i call myself a human, all thanks to someone that gave us a freemind.


Ahh.. Who was it that gave you the free mind? Answer me that.. And you call yourself human because you are free? The maggots crawling around.. Doing as they please, they seem free.. We have opposable thumbs would even be a better answer than that.. think before you reply..


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But then personaly i do not believe in satan or god.


Oh, so now you don't believe in Satan.. I thought he was guiding you.. My mistake then; another contradiction?..


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I do not really understand how people can follow a book? No mather who wrote it. (the koran, bible, ect ect) But i enjoy the subject and wanna know more about it, specially when its about church of satan and rituals.


Some people can follow a book, because it gives them a reference, safety, security, instruction, examples, proof.. A book can offer infinite knowledge, or it can offer ignorance in a binding.. If you are speaking of TSB, we do not follow it word for word.. At least, the better of us do not. We use it as a reference, a compilation of what some of us believe to be the sheer outline of what it takes to be a true Laveyan Satanist.

The majority of us here do not routinely, or ever practice rituals.. But in light of those who do, I suggest you give them the due respect. I personally do not practice such rituals and the like, but considering the motivation, dedication, and determination it takes to actually learn such things.. You may want to watch what you say..


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I don't want people to look at me and think i should get the fuck out of here just because i do not believe in what you believe in. I want to know more about what you people believe in and make my own view from it. You all know how my view of satanism is. And correct me if am wrong. I wont be angry and bite! ;D


You hardly know what we believe in to begin with..

from my point of view, you barely have a substantial, correct view..


You people?!?! The outrage.. After the years of slavery and turmoil, you tempt us with you people?! What's that supposed to mean you racist bastard?.. Someone Smack him..

We're not all the same person, 90% of us probably don't share anything in common.. 'You people' really has no meaning to anyone here... What I'm trying to say is.. *Sigh*.. You cannot group us together..

Do some research.. Go learn something before you start posting again.. Lurk awhile longer..



~Snow~.
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#10686 - 08/15/08 09:49 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: PigFeeder]
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Wow, that took a lot of patience on your part. Maybe he'll learn something.
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#10688 - 08/15/08 07:29 PM Re: Rollplaying [Re: coelentrate]
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Hey guys, for what it's worth...

Do try to be a bit open minded on the spelling and grammar. His English is better than my Svedish. I personally would prefer The 600 Club to be more international.
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#10699 - 08/16/08 12:30 AM Re: Rollplaying [Re: Fist]
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Schwow.

I don't know much about rollplaying, but I do like roleplaying every so often. I wouldn't call myself a "serious" gamer though. I play D&D only a couple evenings a year, but online ones like WoW require too much attention. I lose interest in video games if something mind-blowing doesn't happen at least once a day. And mmorpgs most certainly don't fit that bill. I don't want to spend five months hunting boars before I get cool weapons and gear- I want to MAIM TORTURE AND KILL RIIIGGHHTT NOOOWWW!!!11

Although I will give him credit, tabletop gaming isn't as bad as online mmorpgs. Actually talking to people in real life, even if they are also losers, is a big step up from being alone and holed up in your room all day typing words to faceless avatars through a glowing screen.

...waitaminute-

GODDAMMIT!



...I can't wait till I go back to Uni where the real people are... summer sucks.


Edited by The Zebu (08/16/08 12:34 AM)
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#10705 - 08/16/08 03:26 PM Re: Rollplaying [Re: The Zebu]
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I did the D&D bit back in the 80's. When I was in high school, and in my first apartment. Thats it. It was a bunch of people hanging out for hours talking shit and having fun. It wasnt my whole life, it was only a small part of it, so cut the guy some slack.

When you get older, the best roleplaying is just in the bedroom.


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