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#113694 - 07/31/17 04:01 PM Re: ONA Hurt Your Feelings? [Re: Czereda]
entropicmomentum Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Czereda
The European Union accepts all the immigrants with open arms, which is a self-destructive behavior. However, often the immigrants help the job market.


My understanding is that is indeed why they allow immigrants the way they do, kind of like how Mexicans in the U.S. create a cheap labor force. Perhaps the main difference is that Mexican culture is Western and more akin to the values of the United States, whereas Muslim culture is incompatible with Western culture in Europe. One group assimilates better.
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#113701 - 07/31/17 09:29 PM Re: ONA Hurt Your Feelings? [Re: entropicmomentum]
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 Originally Posted By: CZ
However, often the immigrants help the job market.


 Originally Posted By: EM
kind of like how Mexicans in the U.S. create a cheap labor force.


I don't know about Poland and their Ukranian situation, but in U.S. there are two sides to this coin. Mexicans help the labour market in terms of cheap labour, farm-work. Mexicans have been working in this country for generations and it hasn't prevented job market crash. Most of the time cheap labour is done by sending the jobs over seas, this way companies don't have to pay as much.

A lot of this compatibility has to do with cultural values in terms of how people treat one another based on social identity.

In this case, the immigrants were brought in on a sudden mass scale. They were already desperate, and had no time to adapt, and little resource, where the previous examples did.
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#113753 - 08/05/17 02:04 AM Re: ONA Hurt Your Feelings? [Re: entropicmomentum]
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There's one big difference between U.S. immigration and European.
As Czereda pointed out, we generally have a higher influx of Muslim immigrants due to the current war in Syria and other parts of the middle-east.

Their lifestyle is, indeed, not compatible unlike the Mexicans. Seeing most of the current influx are considered refugees, they're a drain on the system. I applaud countries like Hungary for giving a big "fuck-you" towards immigration policies.
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