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#11348 - 09/10/08 10:34 AM Re: Do not pay attention to the man behind the screen. [Re: Morgan]
Diavolo Offline
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When I checked out all the fuzz about Palin a while back, 'they can't be serious' was the first thing that came to my mind.
She's nothing but a vote-puller; a republican Hillary. But a version I wouldn't want to have near me. Since Hillary threw the towel, there are a lot of desperate women out there that still want pussy in the higher ranks.

What amazes me most is that people actually buy this. Americans are stupid is what I'd want to say but thinking about it, all over the world people have become as stupid. Politics seems to have degraded to selling a product to the mass and after that, plainly ignore them and carry on with an own agenda. You can do whatever you want nowadays, it doesn't matter. Next election they mesmerize the mass again and the cattle does what is desired.

One day the bills of this era have to be paid. Guess who's gonna pay them?

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#11427 - 09/12/08 02:10 PM Re: Do not pay attention to the man behind the screen. [Re: Diavolo]
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Yes my reaction was also what the fuck, but then i sat down and it hit me... How ingenius of him, he is minipulating the fuck out of the American people using their wants to his advantage. Granted she may not have the views that most people want in power BUT it is not really her word that matters if he makes office. To me it's looking like he is just using her to obtain a goal if he dies oh well atleast he did what he wanted. It'd be something that I would do because when I die what do I care about what happens right?
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#11459 - 09/14/08 10:14 AM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Morgan]
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Registered: 05/17/08
Posts: 32
Loc: ANCHORAGE - ALASKA
No experience on foreign policy.
Little experience in politics.
Currently under investigation.
Pro-Oil.
Pro drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Reserve.
Anti-Choice, anti-abortion.


who gives a shit about any of that - your not voting on palin - your voting on alaska - as a new direction for this country - its all about change - palin reformed this state - gave the states profits to the people - i just got my check - alaska is not what you think - you think its all mooses and snow - its the backbone of this country - militarily - its like roswell here - but you wouldnt know that - living in new york i would expect you to know that our biggest problem is the terrorists - alaska is the future - its not polluted with terrorism imigration housing or health care - its a safe haven for all satanists and i invite all to come here - it started in new york but its gonna end here in alaska - buy voting for mcain your voting for security
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#11462 - 09/14/08 09:07 PM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Morgan]
delusion Offline
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Registered: 08/30/07
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(This is a generalized reply and not necessarily for Morgan)

I agree that neither candidate impress me. I say that based on their voting records in the past. I don't listen to the speeches because they are written by someone else and involve more psychodrama than any ritual I've ever thrown. (Well almost)

McCain is a decent guy I think. I think he means what he says and aside from the occasional slip of the tongue he says what he means. I feel that he would make a great neighbor or fishing partner but I would sooner vote for Bush that have him as president.

Obama, as Octavious had stated, is all hot air. I realize that this means nothing to anyone else but how can I as a rational adult put any faith in a man who votes to send hundreds of thousands of dollars of military aid to Israel while we have so much shit going on here that needs attention. Obama does not represent change, he represents wars in places no one is paying attention to so it slips under the radar of the average leftist who should be paying attention.

This is what I liked about Ron Paul he was all about shutting down our "extra curricular" activities around the world and focusing on the issues right here in our own country. But oh well, he's out.

But I will pose is to this group of minds. Why is Obama different really? He backs other country's wars. He gets them money and bullets to fight with. He was against offshore drilling now his... open to the thought. He wants the troops out of Iraq right now! Or.. Maybe just kinda soon.

As I just wrote to my friend who got absolutely shit on at a dinner party not so long ago for not being a Obama fanatic, it isn't necessarily the man I dislike (although I don't agree with his politics) it is his supporters I can't stand.

OBAMA!!!!! They shout but when I ask them why they just tell me the same shit you could read off a bumper sticker. "Because it's time for a change." I don't see the change. Here is another slick talking MF who gets money from lobbyists to back their interests. Let me say that again, THEIR INTERESTS.

Fist or anyone else what happens to the U.S. if Israel has to fight the Palestinians on their own? I think nothing. But again I'm no political analyst so I'm asking.

Perhaps keeping battle stations around the world and keeping certain strategic places under the gun may maintain the illusion of a secure financial system but isn't that kind of the long way around?

Thanks all.
Delusion

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#11467 - 09/15/08 07:03 AM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: delusion]
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Perhaps keeping battle stations around the world and keeping certain strategic places under the gun may maintain the illusion of a secure financial system but isn't that kind of the long way around?


In general, I tend to be a pro-US isolationist and protectionist. However, unless we abandon 'globalism' and 'free trade' then we will have to act as an imperial power.

Neither candidate is interested in returning our tax base to a system of tariffs as is mandated by the Constitution. Even Obama, for all of his hot air about keeping jobs in America, will not abandon globalism and the 'prison planet' doctrine.

The worst thing we could do is act as an incompetent empire. One of Bush's biggest problems is that he is acting like an Emperor but doesn't realize that he is actually running and empire.
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#11472 - 09/15/08 11:10 AM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Fist]
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The worst thing we could do is act as an incompetent empire. One of Bush's biggest problems is that he is acting like an Emperor but doesn't realize that he is actually running and empire.

I don't want to be rude or something but that already is a view most people in Europe/Russia/China have of America.
I don't blame it on the people who live there, I just blame it on the incompetent persons who are leading the country. If your next president doesn't invest more money into the army and more in scientifique research, education and perhaps makes some sort money pot that goes towards the people helping them with paying medical things etc, I believe America really can make huge progresses and become far more powerfull then it is now.
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#11480 - 09/15/08 08:19 PM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Dimitri]
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We are screwed.

At this point, it seems people went from voting for someone to drink with to voting for someone they want to fuck.

They both suck, neither are who I wanted, and I dont think at this point things are going to change.

Alaska is the butt fuck of this country. Its out there, pretty but no one really want to live there. Its too fucking cold. You think Alaska is a terrorist spot target, send me whatever you are smoking... Nyc, Washington, Los Angeles, Dallas, are all bigger targets than alaska.

Dont matter, that chickie gonna help to kill country even more.
Obama is/was the lesser of 2 stupid evils.
I hoped for a change, but after all the stupidity of the last week in politics, I dont see it happening.

Morgan
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#11509 - 09/16/08 10:44 AM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Morgan]
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Registered: 08/30/07
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 Originally Posted By: Morgan
You think Alaska is a terrorist spot target, send me whatever you are smoking... Nyc, Washington, Los Angeles, Dallas, are all bigger targets than alaska.


Morgan


I apologize for interfering, but that's pretty much what he said about Alaska. That they don't have the terrorist problem... The thing just caught my eye and I couldn't help my self \:\)

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#11522 - 09/16/08 05:41 PM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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One the great things about this race is the fantastic political theater.

The Left is insane about the Palin. The race is not Obama vs. McCain but rather Obama vs. Palin. The great source of anxiety is that Palin will stand to be the next President. And, she would have gotten there without the usually Leftist clap-trap like 'affirmative action' or the 'feminist movement.' Palin is pro-gun, pro-family, and pro-America - everything the Left is against!

Now, I would like to make a bet with committee here. Win or lose, after the election you will have riots in several cities with large black populations.
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#11533 - 09/17/08 01:14 AM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Fist]
Morgan Offline
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I think we will have riots no matter what.

One if he wins, one if he loses.
and...
One big one if the GOP trys to pull a Florida again.

I dont like her, but middle america is dumb enough to vote for her due to the red-neck factor.
She's purty, shoots, and likes to fuck.

We're screwed.....

Morgan
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#11534 - 09/17/08 04:03 AM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Fist]
Diavolo Offline
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It's amazing yeah how all are only watching the show and not paying attention to reality.

The war in the Middle East, no matter if it is justified or not, is costing a fortune, the financial sector is taking a dive; the 85 billion inserted into AIG aren't even a guarentee for it not collapsing and maybe pushing more and more towards a recession. The dollar is worth diddly-shit compared to a decade ago.

I can't imagine life has become any cheaper in the last 8th years for you guys. It sure didn't here, especially when looking at gas prices.

And still, all are watching the hockey-mom.

It's truly amazing.

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#11540 - 09/17/08 11:30 AM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Morgan]
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Registered: 06/21/08
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Loc: Toledo, OH
What are you doing on your computer? Get in the kitchen, where you belong and make me some eggs!

If you think that Palin needs to be at home taking care of her kids, and Obama does not, then you are sexist and should be treated like a battered housewife. Why is it okay for a MAN to campaign without his kids, but when a woman does it, shes neglecting her responsibilities?

Where is Obama's foreign policy experience? He doesn't even have 150 DAYS of experience as a senator! She is more qualified then him, and SHES NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. Obama is, so put him under the microscope.

Anti-Choice? No, she is not. Yes she is against abortion in her beliefs. BUT, if you listen to her she states that she would NOT BAN IT. She is not going to force her personal beliefs about it being murder on your body, so you can still have unprotected sex and kill your unborn babies all you want.

Pro-Drilling? FUCK YEAH!!!

PALIN'08

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#11544 - 09/17/08 04:24 PM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Fist]
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I pretty much agree with everything Morgan has said here so I am going to bow out of the thread at least on those points but I did see something I wanted to comment on.

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Palin is pro-gun, pro-family, and pro-America - everything the Left is against!


What caught my eye was this dear fistula. I am with you on the gun thing the left would take away our guns today given the opportunity. But I don't see how the left is anti-family. If what you are talking about is abortion then I might agree to a point excluding that wording. It's a bit abstract don't you think. Being pro- choice = being anti-family is like saying I'm anti-education because I'm pro-choice about what book you decide to read. Other then the abortion thing how exactly is the left anti-family?

I happen to know a bunch of leftist and all I ever hear is pro -freedom talk in the form of the right to eat better, the right to live cleaner. Now maybe the hippies I know are different from the hippies you know but based on my experience I just can't make the connection between the left and "anti-family", can you help me with that please?

Also how is the left "anti-America"? I have sifted through every documentary and piece of news footage that I could (and can) and have yet to see anyone say they were anti-America. I think this may be another one of your abstract statement, no?
I can see them being anti-American in the sense that our countries leadership is crooked and therefore the country as a whole is not going in a great direction, which I think we could all agree with in a general way. But that does not make a person anti-American. I could spin that right back at you by asking if I don't like the way you drive does that make me "anti-Buick", clearly it does not.

I think that the sentiment behind the anti-American pigeon hold is that dissent is a bad thing. Sort of a "you're either with us or against us" mentality. It's sad that that little snibbit from Bush's speech has become the backbone of that concept of people being un-American if they disagree.

I just wanted some clarification on those items.

Delusion

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#11549 - 09/17/08 08:16 PM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Conspiracy]
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Your Funny.......

"What are you doing on your computer? Get in the kitchen, where you belong and make me some eggs!......be treated like a battered housewife"

First you have to get a job, and be a man before anyone cooks for you. Besides, my balls are bigger than yours, and if anyone goes to hit me out of line, they are getting hit right back.
Also, for me to stay in the kitchen you had better make a lot of money because I treat myself well, and the sex better be great too.

Palin's kid is 3 months old and breast feeding and handicapped.

"blah, blah, more experienced"
get a grip, hockey mom beauty queen isn't more experienced. There are more people living in my city than in her whole state. And as for when she was mayor with 4,ooo people, well I have half of that many just on my friends list. She has no real qualifications no matter how much you yell and try to belittle me or the argument.

"She is not going to force her personal beliefs about it being murder on your body, so you can still have unprotected sex and kill your unborn babies all you want."

Want to bet?
AS for my sex life and choices, its really none of your business.
AND
As a Satanist, what the FUCK I CHOOSE TO DO IS MY CHOICE.
Your not my lover, bedmate, partner or friend, what I do with my body is none of your damn business.
Go back to jerking off to my photos and websites.

AS for drilling in the NWP, its pointless. It won't supply 2% of what the country need. Better option is off shore drilling.

Honestly, aside from being from Alaska where you live. What policies that she backs will make your life better? What things that she says will happen will really make your life better?

Damn........
As a Satanist, please choose to think.....

Morgan
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#11550 - 09/17/08 09:49 PM Re: WtF???? Palin [Re: Morgan]
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Not al1 oil refinery workers live in Alaska, I happen to reside in Ohio. And were not all men either.

Alaska has enough oil to provide us over 100 years, and would only effect less then half of one percent of their land.

I also choose to think. I choose to not live in a socialist nation.


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