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#111266 - 01/19/17 05:02 PM Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump
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Place your bets.
We are crunch time to inauguration day.

Do it for funsies. Do it because you plan to pay up if you lose.

Trump - Security team effectively protects the man.

Killer - Trump is injured or killed by disgruntled citizen.

To Date Threats:
FLORIDA's Dominic Puopolo (Shitfaced) posting videos on Twitter got him pinched.
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#111270 - 01/20/17 12:41 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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LOL this is something I've predicted since he won. Some disgruntled SJW millennial faggot WILL take a shot at him before his presidency is complete. Mark my words.
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#111272 - 01/20/17 04:43 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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What reasonable assassin gives his full name and makes a video announcing his nefarious plan?

The guy wanted to have his five minutes online and, for sure, he got it.
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#111273 - 01/20/17 10:37 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Czereda]
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It also didn't hurt that he was pretty shitfaced. I doubt the charges will stick, mercy for a 9/11 victim and all that jazz. Entertaining none the less.

Avoid the Media coverage and watch the inauguration live on C-span.

All my social media accounts are full of nothing but laments. People are really salty about this ;\)
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#111274 - 01/20/17 11:16 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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If some disgruntled faggot does get one off, then something's really wrong.

I'm hoping on security. If our current security forces and technology can't hold back a few fucking dipshit SJWs then what the fuck?!

In any case its time for a god damn grilled cheese sandwich.

Let me know when the world's finally fucking gone to hell.

See ya there.
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#111275 - 01/20/17 12:07 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Fuck if the anti-bush survived his tenure with his haters I am sure the anti-Barry will be fine with his fan club.

No need to worry he will live to see the rise of the anti-trump, they probably already have him or her growing in a test tube at Langley.

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#111276 - 01/20/17 04:42 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: madvuduskya]
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True. I'm disappointed. The riots in the streets and Antifa blazing through with smoke bombs was far more exciting. But hey, there's still time. He's going to need to make quite a few public appearances this year. We may return to this thread yet!
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#111278 - 01/21/17 01:46 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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I believe this sentiment has been prevalent even longer and is not solely limited to Trump alone.

I had the same "hope" when Obama took office.
The same sentiment when Bush did.

It's just our inbred penchant for live drama and action.
Nothing has happened and nothing will probably happen.
Especially when considering his greatest enemies are SJW's. A group renowned for their loud-mouthed behavior and chickening out on the very last second.

Like this topic, it's just a bunch of heavily mediatized hot air. If anything, it only shows the general human inability and passivenes when it concerns "change" at all.


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#111280 - 01/21/17 06:30 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dimitri]
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Nothing has happened and nothing will probably happen.
Especially when considering his greatest enemies are SJWs


Pretty much my thinking. Obama was suppose to be assassinated by a Turner Diaries enthusiast and it never happened.

I'd say the most likely assassination scenario would involve some awkward "mentally divergent" character that talks to voices in his head and is obsessed with a lesbian.

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#111283 - 01/22/17 03:22 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Honestly i've heard so much Bullshit from SJW's and EVEN THE FUCKING MEDIA about assassinating the Donald.

All he's done so far is bring jobs back, start talks on the wall, putting THE PEOPLE back in control, and he want's to fix real issues, and better relations with one of the few countries that can kill us all.

but no let's listen to the media he's racist and super evil the next hitler...

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#111286 - 01/22/17 01:58 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: theguybb]
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but no let's listen to the media he's racist and super evil the next hitler...


Then let us Goyim rise up and follow our Glorious Leader into the furnaces of eternal life.

Salvation and Victory, Mein Trumpster.
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#111287 - 01/22/17 05:19 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: theguybb]
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 Originally Posted By: theguybb
All he's done so far is bring jobs back, start talks on the wall, putting THE PEOPLE back in control, and he want's to fix real issues, and better relations with one of the few countries that can kill us all. get sworn in and take some pages down off the White House web site.

Your giving him credit for a lot of aspirations. Let's see him actually accomplish something before we start singing his praises, m'kay?

Assassinating attempts? I wouldn't be surprised. Not sure how far they'd get.
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#111288 - 01/22/17 06:10 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: XiaoGui17]
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He has brought some jobs back already with carrier and because of the set example many other big names are either coming back or investing in US,

Jobs are coming back and stocks are up you could admit it's a good start if anything.


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#111293 - 01/23/17 05:29 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dimitri]
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Sure, it is. We find entertainment in any situation or set of circumstances.

I don't believe there is change, just repackaging.
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#111299 - 01/23/17 10:22 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
I've predicted since he won. Some disgruntled SJW millennial faggot WILL take a shot at him

I say the same, but the CIA will be involved. Specially the CIA if it looks professional or spiked, that is, it will not be a SJW zombie.

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#111302 - 01/24/17 04:45 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Coligula]
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There's already comparisons being made to how Kennedy was taken out. Plots and plans and plans within plots. In the words of the mighty Joker "This town needs an enema!" and Trump is doing exactly that, I guess we'll see how it pans out by the end of 1st quarter.

By the 2nd we'll know if it will be a professional hit. Heh
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#111310 - 01/25/17 10:28 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Coligula]
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It is my honest hope that nothing bad happens to president trump.
We have so much to lose, i say this by looking at the GOOD he's done in his FIRST days in office and possible ALLIANCE with russia is almost too good to be true.

The MSM compares him to kennedy because they know he's a REAL president and isn't controlled and would like nothing more to see him dead. look to CNN for example.

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#111311 - 01/26/17 12:21 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: theguybb]
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And he's banned Muslim immigration pending proper understanding and a more efficient vetting system. Awesome work!

But was my fave was him halting the 221million dollar parting gift Obama was sending over to Palestine. You guys can use that money for something more productive now.

When it comes to the tantrums of crybullies - no fucks are given. ...Just jail sentences if they are destructive or violent.
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#111313 - 01/26/17 02:17 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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Well here's the thing I did notice.
Trump is keeping up his word.

He made the statements and in his first few days he's already passing out decrees in line with his promises. He's busy with the economy, he's busy with the wall and he's breaking down the leacherous attitude of "multicultural-thinking".

In the various news-outlets here in Europe I hear a lot of criticism about his "America First"-attitude and economics. While it indeed has a negative impact to the rest of the world, I'm actually applauding this stance. He knows that the last 8 years of Obama were charming but had a significant drain on national resources (with Obama covering it under the gentle guise of peace and understanding). He's calling it back and actually trying to fill the gap.

Obama had an European attitude and outlook. But any intelligent human being would notice it's an attitude which causes harm to U.S. economy and working. He implemented very good ideas but didn't check up the accountability and drain on the entire system. With his ACA he brought forth an idea for the people... into a country which economy and structure wasn't/isn't made for. Healthcare in Europe and Canada grew and evolved socially. The economical and social structure was bred to be ready for it. In the U.S. it was force-fitted with disastrous effects.

Obama made the promise of investing less in military yet silently and with his own agreement performed multiple raids and missions. Trump on the other hand is forcing a retreat out of the UN to windle down international missions that do not openly wear the U.S. flag. Hidden expenses seldom mentioned and talked about. One of our news-outlets mentioned that 26% of the yearly U.N. budget is from US-pockets. Be glad... the wallets won't be drained (or to a lesser extend) by the whims of international community.

He's not well-liked, but he's the enema that was needed. I can only hope other politicians will follow the same attitude. Time to wake-up from the European slumber and start rebuilding towards American dreams ;\)
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#111314 - 01/26/17 10:28 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dimitri]
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You people are botched in the fucking head if you think its going to change.

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The MSM compares him to kennedy because they know he's a REAL president and isn't controlled and would like nothing more to see him dead. look to CNN for example.


This is a prime example of it.

I don't vote. I'm not a fucking mornon.

This country went to shit years ago.

I think it was Canis who said it best, something along the lines of 'just watch, in four years people will be screaming for a demacrat. The system works.'

The Matrix as you all.

Enough said.
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#111317 - 01/26/17 10:48 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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I wanted to add to this, that any form of 'change' in the economy is typically credited to the actions of an administration when it's far more complex than that. People get so snowed by info graphics, memes and propaganda that they don't even realize it.

The Matrix is a good analogy here because all that stuff is the AGENT.

I don't vote either, I'm the Trainman \:\)
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#111320 - 01/26/17 01:11 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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 Originally Posted By: Creatura Noptii
You people are botched in the fucking head if you think its going to change.

Just as botched up as thinking that remaining passively on the sideline inspires/invokes change.

You're a part of the matrix too.
The static noise that is..


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#111323 - 01/26/17 04:23 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dimitri]
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remaining passively on the sideline inspires/invokes change.

You're a part of the matrix too.
The static noise that is..


Find a mirror.

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I wanted to add to this, that any form of 'change' in the economy is typically credited to the actions of an administration when it's far more complex than that. People get so snowed by info graphics, memes and propaganda that they don't even realize it.

The Matrix is a good analogy here because all that stuff is the AGENT.


When I tell people my thoughts, it causes a meltdown in some people. They'll give up and pretend they don't know what I'm talking about.

I just look out for me.

There's more to it than simply not being aware. I think people are aware, and they don't want to fess up to being a part of the problem. Its go team go, nothing else seems to matter.
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#111325 - 01/26/17 05:31 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dimitri]
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What needs to change on an individual basis? The world in any state is just a territory to navigate.

Dissent over a new administration is misguided in my opinion.

At best, I indirectly benefit from possible tax breaks, and a new health plan initiative; at worst, gas prices go up.

*finger twirl*
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#111327 - 01/26/17 07:57 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dan_Dread]
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LOL this is something I've predicted since he won. Some disgruntled SJW millennial faggot WILL take a shot at him before his presidency is complete. Mark my words.


Only an idiot would try, and idiots don't have the best track record. Besides, he's doing well enough assassinating himself on his own.
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#111329 - 01/26/17 08:50 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Megatron]
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I'm not sure SJW's are the ones to worry about... Trump has fucked off the UN and Saudi Arabia and the whole Muslim community, and Global Elitists. He's more right than left, but organisers on both sides consider him a threat politically. I think if there was an assassination it would be puppetted by one of the globalist so they could re-pollute the swamp, and maybe disguised as an SJW or Muslim hit, depending on the proganda they want to spread. But with SJW's now finding it empowering to cry Aluha Akbar, either choice would probably work.

As far as a leader not making much difference to the status quo, I'm not convinced. I agree in most cases in our western countries that that is true. But in other parts of the world (especially at the moment) change in leadership makes a big difference. Some countries are only one dictator away from complete social change. And I wouldn't want to live in one of the European countries with open border policies... Especially if I had a 15yo daughter - her life would change real quick under my watch.
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#111334 - 01/27/17 10:06 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Megatron]
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I only predict it will be that sort of person due to the fact they tend to operate on emotion rather than reason, and outrage grows daily as trump, as the first politician since Hitler to do it, is actually following through with his campaign promises.

I mean, it might also be a Mexican pissed about the wall, or even internal assassins, but I predict option A.

My guess is he just gets winged anyway.
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#111336 - 01/27/17 11:24 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Megatron]
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 Originally Posted By: Megatron
he's doing well enough assassinating himself on his own.


I don't think so. He's a New Yorker and is only offensive to a certain sort. One need not agree with all of his policy change endeavors to see that. I think he's pretty refreshing actually, today's Twitter fight is with Mexican leaders.

Is he wrong?
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#111339 - 01/28/17 03:32 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: CN
When I tell people my thoughts, it causes a meltdown in some people.

Not anyone is ready to accept the stupidity of another...

 Originally Posted By: Sin3
What needs to change on an individual basis? The world in any state is just a territory to navigate.

Dissent over a new administration is misguided in my opinion.

At best, I indirectly benefit from possible tax breaks, and a new health plan initiative; at worst, gas prices go up.

The world and territory is ever-changing. One can remain at the un-glorious sideline and shout at the different sides in praise or with dismay. Both sides remain sheepish no matter the outcome.
It's the direct opposite character/attitude for anyone who even dares to take up the label of "Satanist".

It can't be helped. This has become an age where people prefer the digital comfort over the colder and harsh "outside".

That's a weak-ass excuse you've made there.
You might as well try to find the best bent-over position to continue life.


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#111340 - 01/28/17 04:34 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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Is he wrong?


A border wall is probably the stupidest government project proposed within the last 50 years. Do you know how long the border is? The terrain? Of course you do, which is why you know it's just ludicrous. And besides, 50' walls are quite easily defeated by 51' ladders. You want to see what a real "border wall" looks like, check out the DMZ.

I do applaud Trump for nixing TPP and for greenlighting the pipelines. And also for being a man of his word and keeping his campaign promises (at least so far). But at the end of the day, we elected a petulant child to the highest office in the country. And that, at least to me, is highly problematic.
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#111343 - 01/28/17 03:49 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Megatron]
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General reply.

So far I have no complaints about The Führer. Thinking about selective medical procedures to get in before my employer isn't forced to pay for health insurance.

He's exactly like the debates suggested he'd be, unable to admit he's wrong. At least his economic policy will take a few years before it fails.

The border wall is hilarious. It will bring tons of low paying government contracts to construction companies, and will get even funnier when you see all the "legal" Mexican workers building a wall to keep out illegals.

The group that stands to benefit most will be organizations like MS-13. The added income of letting coyotes use their well lit underground entry tunnels will further secure their trade in meth, guns, and 15 year old sex slaves.

I was disappointed to see the doomsday clock was only moved 30 seconds closer to midnight. You can't fit that into a song.

Going to be a fun 0.1-8 years.

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#111348 - 01/29/17 10:25 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Not anyone is ready to accept the stupidity of another...


Which is why I don't vote. I don't give my approval to politicians who's best interests are those of gluttonous corporate greed.

But you go ahead and keep voting. Keep shoving your nose up their asses.

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The border wall is hilarious. It will bring tons of low paying government contracts to construction companies, and will get even funnier when you see all the "legal" Mexican workers building a wall to keep out illegals.


My guess is that its going to become a war zone. The cartels are not going to be happy about this, and the whole area is going to turn into one big cluster fuck.
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#111356 - 01/29/17 07:32 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Megatron]
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But at the end of the day, we elected a petulant child to the highest office in the country. And that, at least to me, is highly problematic.


A child who is very good at playing with leggo... And I think at present that the USA can use a leader with crazy leggo skills.

I think people are so caught up in the media accounts of this man that they miss the point.

Donald Trump is an arrogant, egocentric apha male (and I am a supporter). The thing is, this statement can be relied on, and you can rely on Trumpy to remain an arrogant, egocentric alpha male until the end of time.

As an alpha male, he is very territorial over anything that is his. In his mind the USA is HIS, always has been, but now he is a position to put his wicked leggo skills into full motion. And since his presidency, the citizens are HIS also. That sounds bad, but it is quite the opposite. When something is HIS he works hard for it and does his best to nurture it into reaching its full potential.

This is what Donald Trump does and what he has always done, just now he has the biggest project of his life.

And he is too full of himself to fail. He's never really shied away from the public eye - he loves the attention! He wants to be revered by the whole country and probably the world and to achieve this he MUST succeed.

Now, because he is a business freak (and a man), he prioritises bread and butter over dessert, and jobs and practical stuff over humanitarian and environmental issues (that's not to say he is anti these things). The most useless thing a person can do is to chuck a tantrum in front of Donald Trump - he will just assume you are 3yo and need your crayons. He won't hate you - he will just tell your mother to take you home and give you your crayons.

You can't deal with everybody in the same way... Any women on here that have dated arrogant, egocentrics understand what I am talking about. But there is more than one way to skin a cat. Women in these relationships get their way often simply because they learn how to stroke the beast.

If people with humanitarian and environmental concerns want his attention then they need to change their tactics. Appeal to his arrogance and his egocentricity, his practical cardinal thinking and to his alpha male mindset. Look at what about him is predictable and work with that - work alongside the current rather than against it. Let him feel good about the decision you are wanting him to make. Stroke him and put ideas in his head and let him adopt them as HIS because once he adopts something you can be sure it will be nurtured to its full potential - even if he delegates it out he will supervise its success from a distance.
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#111358 - 01/29/17 08:24 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Which is why I don't vote. I don't give my approval to politicians who's best interests are those of gluttonous corporate greed.

But you go ahead and keep voting. Keep shoving your nose up their asses.


I will, as it is my RIGHT to vote and duty to exercise my FREEDOM! Freedom like protesting.

All I need to do is check on NPR and find out what horrible thing Trump did that I should be outraged at. Looks like it's a travel ban and the plight of the poor Muslim that just wanted to be an Uber driver.

But seriously... "Deportapallooza" is just another thing that make this theost entertaining administration in my lifetime.

I can't wait for the next episode.

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#111360 - 01/30/17 08:10 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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 Originally Posted By: Creatura Noptii
Which is why I don't vote. I don't give my approval to politicians who's best interests are those of gluttonous corporate greed.

But you go ahead and keep voting. Keep shoving your nose up their asses.


I'm going to go ahead and apologize for saying this, but that is the stupidest thing I've heard in over a year. And really, I get exposed to plenty of stupid.

In ANY choice, there will be outcomes that favor you, and outcomes that disadvantage you. To remove yourself, no matter how slightly, from the process of determining your own best outcomes is self-defeating at best, and moronic at worst.
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#111361 - 01/30/17 08:19 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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[A bunch of pro-Trump stuff]


I get everything you're saying, but still, I recognize certain inherent dangers unique to this presidency. When you remove his policies and "deal-making skills" from the equation, you are still left with an unstable personality at the top of the most powerful military in the world. If that doesn't give you pause, you should probably rethink your stance.
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#111362 - 01/30/17 11:52 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Megatron]
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*@CM: I was replying to Dimitri, just in case you didn't know.

In reply to you, I don't find it entertaining. Its an old puppet show and I know how its going to end.

Dipshits voting to be used and disposed of as such, all in the name of, let's see...

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To remove yourself, no matter how slightly, from the process of determining your own best outcomes is self-defeating at best, and moronic at worst.



I've decided that not voting for these people is in my best interest.

How exactly do you consider it self defeating?

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an unstable personality at the top of the most powerful military in the world.


The fuck's new under the sun? Apparently GOD IS A LIE. Never would have guessed.

Here's a much more interesting character:



All your other satanic figureheads turn to chicken-shit compared to this one.
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#111363 - 01/30/17 01:25 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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I've decided that not voting for these people is in my best interest.

How exactly do you consider it self defeating?


OK, you need convincing. If I give you the choice of me punching you in the face, or me cutting off your balls, which one would you choose? You have the deciding vote. Granted, you're fucked either way, but at least in the one case you can still FUCK.



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Here's a much more interesting character:



All your other satanic figureheads turn to chicken-shit compared to this one.


That guy was a Christian. You know that, right?
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#111366 - 01/30/17 04:59 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dimitri]
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As if donning the label is necessary? Look Dimi, the so-called harsh-outside is what exactly? I can't very well be opposed to things for that sake alone right? I'm referring to this:

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Both sides remain sheepish no matter the outcome.


I wouldn't consider it particularly Satanic to throw fire bombs on the street for a cause I've taken up as my own. That's what most of this unrest is about anyway, other people's problems. Whether it's immigration, abortion, taxes, etc. makes no difference.


Take this temporary immigration ban for instance, it's only 90 days and you'd think its the end of the world for some (and I'm not speaking of the immigrants being delayed or blocked). Trump promised to do this along his campaign trail so it's not exactly shocking that he's taking steps to rev up the vetting system. He understands how the media portrays events so he even took it a step further by making public remarks about which candidates he's hoping to affect. He promised to put Americans first, and I see no reason why he shouldn't as the commander and chief of the country.

That said, these are just opinions based on events as they unfold. I see no reason nor catalyst to get irate about it. It's equally sheepish to believe there's something there to get bent over.

Vice future-casts an uprising as if that's useful.

It reminds me of this scene: We're Not Going to Protest

You haven't explained how precisely I'm bent over here. I don't harbor guilt or shame for using what has been innovated. Even if gas prices went up, I don't complain like I'm entitled to the shit in the first place.
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#111373 - 01/31/17 01:00 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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OK, you need convincing. If I give you the choice of me punching you in the face, or me cutting off your balls, which one would you choose? You have the deciding vote. Granted, you're fucked either way, but at least in the one case you can still FUCK.


You see the blows, I see the attacker. I'll go my own way best I can, whilst you bow down to one punishment in favour of another. Perhaps you've lost touch with the difference between compliance and defiance.

Times of peace well earned are an honourable reward indeed. When complacency begets cowardice, tyranny reigns.

I refuse approval to those I see unfit.

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That guy was a Christian. You know that, right?

As much as LaVey or anyone from CoS and similar orgs have ever been in lieu with The Beast himself.

I would also say as much as any politician puts their people before those who pay the most up front, however in the case of this fellow, he treated his people with the utmost concern and reward in recognition of their hard work, despite being financed by the church. Can't say the same for this day and age.
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#111378 - 02/02/17 09:26 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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You see the blows, I see the attacker.


If you're in a fight, they're one and the same. Your refusal to act in your own democratic best interest was the issue at hand. Try not to take the analogy too far, otherwise people might mistake you for a masochist.

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Times of peace well earned are an honourable reward indeed. When complacency begets cowardice, tyranny reigns.

I refuse approval to those I see unfit.


Could you possibly string two sentences together that are any less coherent. I'll wait for it . . .

And yeah, Vlad the Impaler was a good kinsman to his folk. But that in no way means that he ultimately acted in their best long term interests. Can you even find Wallachia on a map?

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#111379 - 02/02/17 10:51 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Megatron]
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If you're in a fight, they're one and the same.


No shit. You almost understand, I'll wait for it...

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Your refusal to act in your own democratic best interest was the issue at hand. Try not to take the analogy too far, otherwise people might mistake you for a masochist.


Look who funds the politicians. Blue, Red, Green, whatever. Call me colour blind but I see every path leading to the same place.

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Vlad the Impaler was a good kinsman to his folk. But that in no way means that he ultimately acted in their best long term interests.


Vlad Dracul/Țepeș has a strange history, a lot of his evil doings were a bad wrap by German historians who got mad at Romania for breaking ties due to the abundance of German merchant sharks occupying the kingdom. A lot of the nasty stories are fabricated by German historians. Thus, it is believed Vlad impaled many of his own people, but I wonder how many were actually German born, stealing from Wallachian residents. And yes, it was Wallachia, Romania didn't become the country it is now until hundreds of years later.

Do you know how to pronounce his name or Wallachia?

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Can you even find Wallachia on a map?


I know where it is, and no, using the internet to find where things are on a map is not a challenge for me. Do you know where Wallachia is in what is now modern day Romania?

*Hint: Use google, its that thing you use to find stuff \:\)

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#111380 - 02/02/17 11:47 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Look who funds the politicians. Blue, Red, Green, whatever. Call me colour blind but I see every path leading to the same place.


Aside from their own private investments and creating non-profits, we do. Though their salaries as public servants have been hotly debated, especially when they exceed their average constituency 3 fold.

I don't know what would constitute an act (collectively) that would be in one's own private best interest apart from where you spend your money. Every dollar spent is a vote after all.

When millions of Americans just stop participating in the system as a whole, a formidable impact is made. Imagine if not a single person showed up for elections (whether State/Fed), stopped funding policy, and undermined the government's ability to withdraw taxes. That's how you start a revolution, not screaming in the streets with signs and vaginas on your head. Don't get me wrong, civil unrest and protest has produced results in the past, but those were different eras. Those prior to Internet and seconds fast information delivery. Especially financial communication.

The reason the gen-pop is governed is due to a lack of ability to be self-governing. The population growth has a lot to do with that but so too does the quality of its people.

I nearly snorted my coffee when Trump's hiring freeze was addressed on the floor. Mediocrity run amok in every sector of infrastructure.
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#111401 - 02/06/17 10:57 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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When millions of Americans just stop participating in the system as a whole, a formidable impact is made. Imagine if not a single person showed up for elections (whether State/Fed), stopped funding policy, and undermined the government's ability to withdraw taxes. That's how you start a revolution, not screaming in the streets with signs and vaginas on your head.


Thing is, I wonder how many really have the backbone to go furhter than vagina on forehead. Not many methinks.

Few men there are. I see many undeveloped, unrefined males.

Back in the American revolutionary times of the Melitia vs the Red Coats, your average guy would be considered a toxic nightmare of masculinity by today's standard. Probably chopped blocks of wood every day for fun. You know, stuff that required brute strength to survive.

In today's realm of self pussified meme culture, I just don't see the revolutionary wet dream taking course.

People will have to starve hard before that happens, and even then, slim chance. I'm sure the dollar menu would find a way down to the 10 cent all you can eat family pack special.

But who am I kidding, I've got to get through this episode of Wet Horny Housewives #6.

Carry on.
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#111403 - 02/06/17 12:20 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Few men there are. I see many undeveloped, unrefined males.


Indeed. I'm often taken back by the number of men that tow the Feminist party line. Even when it has nothing to do with law. It's really weird.

And I'm not saying this is ever going to happen, I'm just say that this is the only way I can fathom that anything will change about government.
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#111414 - 02/08/17 06:45 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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Ewwww, the feminist march made me want to vomit on numerous occasions.

But what I did find interesting was that one of the main organisers is connected to radical Muslim groups... I mean... Abort! Abort! Abort your little infidel bastards while my sisters give birth to an army 8 babies at a time! At this rate, they won't have to fight the west - maybe they are the religion of peace after all.

Maybe the money collected from Halal Certification should be paying for the abortions.




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#111416 - 02/09/17 10:53 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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@SIN3:

Men have been turned into wimps. Deeply ingrained guilt shaming tactics from an early age insure a well conforming, weak, undeveloped male, one who is at his best, a half wit. A minor opponent, if one at all. Through manipulation today's male feels starved for twat, becoming one himself. Female attention and validation is put before his own well being.

I've spoken with men, tried to produce an understanding that women aren't all there is to being a man, to life.

I'll be damned if any ever listen.

To the feminists, masculinity is the ultimate threat. A true man will not tolerate their bitching nonsense and every attempt of guilt shaming control tactics are shut the fuck down.

Feminists know all they have is the compliance of undeveloped males, and that even one true man stands as a threat to many a weakling. Masculinity is hard, if not impossible to fully control. Removed of their guilt shaming tactics, males become men, and feminists are kicked aside like trash, as are the agencies of control.

As for revolution, it will take more than mere non compliance. It will take discipline, intellect, determination and backbone.

If people did stop paying, all that would have to be done is what has always been done: Take it from your pay-check before you even receive it to begin with.

@Shadow Lover:

This is a common fear, low birth rates. Remember the three hundred Greeks, who defended against thousands, knowing their terrain and how to use it wisely. I'm not afraid of the west being over taken, at least not the united states. We have guns. Our number of equipped citizens greatly outnumbers armed officials. The Japanese wouldn't invade us in WWII because they calculated the number of armed USCz wouldn't allow them past the west coast states.

As for voting, you in other countries could push to have armed rights. Any other attempt at being on par with the US means little to nothing if you don't have that.

All in all, despite the numbers, my personal view is that the general population is momentarily consumed by apathy and pure laziness. With the rise of every new generation, intelligence and competence bred out. As I see it, the need for quality outweighs one for quantity.

Mere food for thought.
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#111420 - 02/09/17 06:03 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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I agree - the United States won't be overtaken. The rioters, although they dominate the news over here, I'm sure are very small in numbers when compared to the overall population. And even most liberals wouldn't support their behaviour.

I'm worried about my country. Fortunately I see less and less people fighting for open boarders and welcoming refugees with open arms. I think one by one they are slowly waking up.

As for guns... I was fortunate enough to grow up in the country so have never had a problem with gun ownership. And I know, when the buyback did occur when the gun laws were being put in place, the sale of polythene pipe went up because a lot of people just buried them rather than hand them over. Lol. But I know now, that the Security Industry in our country has been having an influx of Muslims in the last few years, all getting gun licences. They are not a silly people... I feel by comparison many Australians are still being complacent.

Australian's have strong hearts and can quickly transform from happy larrikins into feral fucks. They won't go down without a fight. I'm just not convinced we have the population necessary to survive a serious attack, if we don't start nipping it in the bud now. I think the only reason we have been left in peace this long is because of our allies.

We are currently paying a Halal Tax, which a few Right Independents are doing their best to undo. Because it was snuck onto grocery items I believe we were paying it for years before we even became aware. And Sharia Banking has been instituted. I just hope enough Australians are awake by the next election to make the changes necessary to fuck these problems off once and for all. We had a good bloke in govt, but his own party voted him out in the middle of the night because he wouldn't bend over for the UN. The guy they replaced him with does. So conservatives have said fuck you and are forming new parties... I just hope they aren't spreading themselves to thinly.


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#111422 - 02/10/17 09:51 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Men have been turned into wimps


They really have, it's sickening to me. These days a girl either has to pass them by, or raise them to be men.

Absent of Law, there is no context for feminism in the 21st century. I've had these debates with self-pinned Fems in these forums. I resound myself to just *head desk*, and leave them to their service. What else can you do? Aside conversational intolerance, people will go on and do what they do fueled by their beliefs. You gotta wonder how these people live.



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It will take discipline, intellect, determination and backbone.
Certainly, I was addressing the 'start'. Nothing in recent decades even remotely resembles a revolt but people still believe whining in protest is taking action. They have been so indoctrinated that there's no changing that mindset today.
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#111425 - 02/10/17 06:33 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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They have been so indoctrinated that there's no changing that mindset today.


Indeed, mention anything more than picket fence signs and whining like a bitch, you're called crazy.

I think it goes beyond indoctrination, its reached critical mass and now these weaklings don't know what the fuck to do.
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#111432 - 02/11/17 03:21 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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Nothing in recent decades even remotely resembles a revolt but people still believe that whining in protest is taking action.


Sometimes, the protests do help. I mean here street protests, not signing online petitions. In my country, a lot of legislative proposals were dropped due to social protests. Sure, it's not a revolution but the revolution is not the aim of those people. They protest to protect their interests, not because they want to change the system.
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#111436 - 02/11/17 06:28 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Czereda]
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Protests can definitely be a positive thing. However I feel the present protests in the USA are flawed to begin with. They are just whining because they lost - pretty much end of story.

If Trump saved a bunch of orphans they would protest that they were the wrong orphans or protest his neglect of old people.

I have noticed on social Media, that when the first protests occurred, being emotional with their own loss, many Liberals supported the protests. Now many of them have gone quiet, wanting to distance themselves from the embarrassment and certainly not condone much of the behaviour.

I feel most of these protesters and rioters are indoctrinated slaves to the globalist empire and no longer able to think clearly. I hope, that some strong Liberal leaders are able to calm them down and set them on a more productive path - I hope some of these people can be saved before they destroy their own futures.

In the end, I think their behaviour is only going to widen Trump's lead at the next election. Providing he does at least an average job, people will learn to have faith in his decisions; and when the alternative is represented by that crud in the streets - well, most sane people wouldn't want them in charge.

Plus they are setting Trump up as the bullied underdog - some people will support him for this reason alone.



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#111439 - 02/12/17 03:21 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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I hope some of these people can be saved before they destroy their own futures.

The fuck, why?

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They are just whining because they lost - pretty much end of story... people will learn to have faith in his decisions- some people will support him for this reason alone.


Business as usual.
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#111442 - 02/12/17 07:54 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Lol! Yeah, saved is probably the wrong word.

I am hoping that the Liberals produce a good role model for them. If they are liberal, so be it, but there are liberals and then there are unhinged fruitcakes. And I feel Obama and Hillary just perpetuate their demise.

Creature, out of curiosity, how would you handle them?

I have always been a fan of military boot camps but I don't think these people would survive. I wonder if we could send them overseas as aid workers so they can see first hand what a real problem is, but again, I'm not entirely convinced they are mature enough. I mean, you can kick them out of college but then they are still being a burden in your community. If you put them in prison, I don't think that would help much of anything either.
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#111447 - 02/12/17 04:32 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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Creature, out of curiosity, how would you handle them?


So many ideas and options... I'll have to get back to this.

I know Australia likes their bootcamps. I don't think they'll survive without constant welfare and social validation from their weakling ilk. I've had to deal with some of the worst, as I live in the Pacific Northwest of the USA. I don't know if this is where the majority of them reside in my country, but its a fair load, and some of the most intolerable at that.

I say before anything is done, they ought to be forced to look at the reign of destruction and they've committed against trash bins and newspaper stands. Just fucking despicable.
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#111450 - 02/12/17 11:21 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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There's not many bootcamps in Australia that I am aware of... unfortunately. I would like to see compulsory cadets come back into the schools for young men, like it was in my mother's generation, just so they can taste discipline and the pride that is attached to it.

But yeah, I think it is all about changing them from destructive to constructive members of society, no matter what their politics. I'm not rich... If somebody jumped all over my car my family would suffer while I was struggling to get the excess together for the insurance company. They need to understand that their actions are hurting families.
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#111453 - 02/13/17 10:36 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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Got to hand it to them for being quite the little shit disturbers. However, whining and trash can beating are the most it normally comes to. In the case of stomping cars, I've heard there is a law being passed reversing pedestrian right of way.

As for production, I wonder if it is genetic, or upbringing. I myself was born with fire in my blood. Could be a combination, in any case I don't know if they can be turned, as you say.

Possibly, but from where I stand, seems doubtful.
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#111456 - 02/13/17 10:15 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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I wasn't talking about the cars they block... and yes I believe one or two states have passed a law that exonerates the motorist if they accidentally (on purpose) hit a protester blocking a road.

I was referring to the unmanned parked cars in the streets that rioters trashed.

But at the end of the day, I guess all you can do is lock up the ones actually breaking the law and charge them. Peaceful protesters don't actually bother me. But, blocking traffic is not peaceful.
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#111457 - 02/14/17 12:02 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Czereda]
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Very rarely, if ever, in this country do Protests produce anything. In prior decades, sure but now-a-days everything is protested. Even when the protestors have no real clear message or aim. The internet stuff seems to make more of an impact than thousands in the streets grabbing headlines.

See: #DAPL, thing was dead a year ago. "Water Protectors" had no real impact on the legal ruling. 82 days ETA.
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#111459 - 02/14/17 03:55 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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There are plenty of disgruntled people also here who complain about everything. They organize protests with one message: Today's government sucks, the previous one was better." The answer of the ruling party usually is: "We won the elections." Those protests are very similar to the protests against Trump. It's different though if people protest against specific legislation. Then they are likely to win if the scale of protests is large and if people are determined and annoying enough for the government. At least here.
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#111471 - 02/15/17 05:35 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Czereda]
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In the U.S. there's plenty of legislation people are unhappy about, it doesn't exactly get turned around because of protests.

The abortion issue is back on the table because of Ethical concerns after 22 weeks as well as other pieces of law that seem to be catering to a constituency.

People often mistake our Republic as a true democracy, it's not. Disgruntled citizens have been using the courts to get laws turned around with a greater success. It's an abuse of the system but where there is corruption, there is opportunity.
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#111479 - 02/18/17 06:01 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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The abortion issue is back on the table because of Ethical concerns after 22 weeks as well as other pieces of law that seem to be catering to a constituency.

Ethical concerns about 22 weeks, my ass.

No one has any special concerns about abortions at a specific point. There are 3 stances on abortion. There's for, against, and not touching the issue with a ten-foot-pole.

The "against" people like to go for 22 weeks because they think they have the strongest case, there--"look, eyelashes and fingernails, how could you kill that, you monster?" It's not that they have any special ethical considerations about it; it's that they think it's an easier sell if they focus on the latter stages that most clearly resemble a baby.

Meanwhile, the "for" people are going to (rightly) point out that nobody is waiting until 22 weeks for shits and giggles--abortion becomes incredibly more expensive and dangerous the longer you wait, and abortions done that far along are overwhelmingly wanted pregnancies that went terribly wrong.

Banning at that point isn't going to stop the pro-lifer's villain of the floozy who mindlessly gets knocked up and gets an abortion because she couldn't be bothered to use a condom save herself for marriage, it's going to target aspiring mothers with serious medical complications in their pregnancies.

No matter how often this is explained, it doesn't sink in. The fact that there may be actual medical reasons for an abortion (it isn't always just a lifestyle/ family planning decision) is something the right is in hardcore denial about. Because that inconvenient fact would complicate their moral certainty.

And having a scientifically illiterate POTUS who pals around with the anti-vax crowd, climate change deniers, etc. does not bode well for the being any good sense on that front.
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#111481 - 02/19/17 12:40 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: XiaoGui17]
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I get what you mean, and while I'm not a complete Satanist, I've always had respect to Satanism's approach to gaining a better understanding of human nature through opposition, studying unpopular ideas or thoughts to get a bigger picture.

I agree with Satanism on these grounds, but for the rituals, well, I'd rather take a ride up into nature on a summer night listening to rock and roll than stay home lighting candles and reciting corny chants.

So my take is that you think I don't know much and only warship, fact is I know some languages and have studied a lot, and continue to do so. In any case, I agree with your encouragement of continuing research. Don't let my interest in Dracula, or whatever silly avatar I put on become too much of a distraction for you. I really did come here to learn more, not just argue and tell people to fuck off (as much as I enjoy it from time to time).

I just thought it was a point worth making a little more clear so you don't think I was totally blowing you off with a completely pretentious attitude.
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#111484 - 02/20/17 11:13 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: XiaoGui17]
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As I said, "catering to a constituency". There's only a specific type of citizen that considers the issue at all. They fall back on ethical concerns, (killing it at any stage of development).

The "for" people also don't seem to have an issue with people that wait, can't afford, or absent of a medical concern - just decide later rather than sooner so long as their tax dollars don't fund it. Later, when that low-income woman has the baby, stays on welfare her entire life; that's when they scream from the rooftops about the issue.

Mothers with serious concerns seem to be the exception in most pieces of legislation I've read. Even here in the Commonwealth of VA where there's still a lot of religiously motivated voters.

Medical concerns aside, using it as a form of birth control gets people pretty outraged (whether religious or not). Read the comments on any news article about it, there's always a percentage that say they aren't religious but find it objectionable for a woman to get abortions as a matter of habit because there was no contraception used. Why would they care? It's not their body, not their fetus... because they believe it's immoral an unethical.

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Trump as a nutter either, there's a lot of out of hand reporting and legislation on these issues that need to be sorted out. Scientists often disagree about the way raw-data is used to support political agendas.
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#111530 - 02/28/17 12:24 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
Later, when that low-income woman has the baby, stays on welfare her entire life; that's when they scream from the rooftops about the issue.


It makes you wonder how many are keeping the kids because of the welfare alone. One could also ask how many would not abort even if they couldn't get the perks of keeping the babies. Let's also consider, if women are going through men trying to find the right (rich) one, kids are often a big turn off to most guys.

Food for thought.
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#111536 - 02/28/17 10:45 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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I feel like much of the problem is the fact that the social trends no longer reflect nature.

I have spoken before about how feminism originally set out to achieve equal rights (which they did - kudos), but somewhere along the way they took women's choice away. It is no longer a choice for a woman to have a career, but rather women are looked down upon for not making it a priority. Many females quite naturally want to breed at a young age, which is why so many teen pregnancies still occur.

I felt guilty much of my life because I was not an ambitious person. I tried to want to be an ambitious career woman but I just wasn't naturally that way inclined. I wasted a lot of energy on failed halfhearted attempts. I had two children (the first died) to two different men and married a third. Then divorced. I would never trick a man into getting me pregnant, but when the first accidental pregnancy occurred I was 19yo and was quite shocked to realise how he (also 19yo) felt about the concept of a baby - he was mortified and had a complete personality meltdown. Young girls just don't know this stuff... At that age we think in fairy-tale images.

I personally think that society needs to work with nature and accept that many young women just want to have babies, and guide them to date older men (maybe in their late twenties? How old ARE men when they start desiring to have children?)

We laugh at some of the old fashioned ways, but some of the traditional ways did better reflect and/or account for nature. Like having debutantes and arranging for daughters to meet suitable mates (as opposed to getting knocked up in the backseat of some gang-bangers car). I'm not saying arranged marriages because fuck that, although they too have their merit... But I am saying that we need to change the social perception of what is normal male and female behaviour.

...Because there is something wrong when women are needing six abortions.

...Because there is something really wrong when men are threatening to neuter themselves if Trump builds a wall and women are walking around in cunt hats and talking about their bloody sheets (Ashley Judd). That's fucking disgusting and nobody wants to hear about it. So you get a period... Who the fuck cares? Half the planet gets them - you are not unique! Men don't want to hear this shit! They don't choose their mates according to has the best menstrual stories FFS! I mean lets get back to moon lodges and and Parlours and whatever the hell men do... fishing... and keep some mystery in our lives.
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#111540 - 03/01/17 09:27 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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I personally think that society needs to work with nature and accept that many young women just want to have babies, and guide them to date


I think this is just a feeling that it hasn't. The state of things today is in fact a natural progression. I think it's more helpful to determine why you see a broken thing needing fixing.

I have a cousin that has used Abortion as birth control her entire life. Pretty sure she's exceeded 6 abortions by this stage. You talk about a woman's choice as if it isn't already hears to make. It's her body, let her do with it as she pleases, even if that results in health effects or an early death. It does more havoc to a woman's body to have the kid than it does to scrape it out in the early stages. We bounce back from stuff like that and it's not even that traumatic to the body.

It's a moral quandary. As an amoral person I find this stance pretty odd. The human condition isn't a simple thing, which is why you do see women running around screaming about their bodies and men join in not because they are men but because they are human beings. A thinking man will certainly produce the entire shit show we call life.
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#111551 - 03/01/17 08:33 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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I feel there are too many "rights" perversing the innateness of humans. Society is pulling too hard against the natural current.

I wasn't focusing on abortion as such, but rather on the section of society that want their babies. I think as a society we can do better to educate young people about what is to be expected. Now girls are mainly educated about why they need a career. And I (maybe not clearly) mentioned that I fell into the single mother trap, and frankly I was a pretty good girl. When my ex-husband and I got together we decided against having more children because at the time mine was seven and his were 13 and 15yo, but if I had gotten with a man that wanted children I would have given birth to 3 children to 3 fathers. I don't think this is wrong, just a symptom of a malfunctioning society. I made poor choices regarding partners and as a result my son grew up without a good strong role model. I think I did a pretty good job, but I think a man could have fine tuned that good job even further. There are too many broken families these days, and not much extended family to compensate. I think (hope) as a society we can do better when it comes to supporting our teens and young adults.

Would it have changed my life? Probably not... I am (moreso was) a very restless person and sort new experiences for growth because growth gave me a small sense of security. Once I outgrew my partners I moved on.

I don't have all the answers... just speculations. I think my generation (Gen X) was the first to start giving the middle finger to our elders. We were apparently a selfish generation. I have interests in cultures both present and foregone, and I think by throwing our elders away so frivolously we have lost something as a society. Other cultures honour old people more and more day to day knowledge is passed down. We don't have to listen to all of their knowledge because times do change, but some of it may have been useful. My generation is responsible for raising snowflakes. Of course, not all young people are snowflakes, but between us as a generation, we raised quite a few.

Confession... I do love watching them get pepper-sprayed. Lol! But at the same time I screw my face up in disgust at how quickly they cry. I mean, most of my generation would have been too stubborn to fucking cry in the face of the enemy. But these guys seem to see their stint as victim as their 15mins. They are melodramatic in their performance and their friends acknowledge their victim-hood. That's why I like the pepper-spray - they suddenly awake from their fake performance in a reality that hurts and then they wail and feel sorry for themselves and their performance at least becomes more authentic. These people are running on pure emotion and are dangerously easy to manipulate.

Abortion itself, is as you said, largely a moral issue. I personally am not a fan of them but I support the right for others to have them - I don't live their life or have their experiences so who am I to judge. I don't like the idea of the state having to pay for them - personal responsibility. I don't like the idea of using it as contraception, but after listening to your info, I now have to put that idea in the each to their own basket with abortions in general. However, if I was a man, if a woman had aborted multiple babies I probably wouldn't choose her to bare and rear my offspring.

I can't condone late term abortions... The idea of killing a baby (unless for medical reasons) two weeks before it hits the outside world kinda pisses me off. I mean, why should these women get to legally kill a person, but if I shoot someone I get charged. To me this is the same thing and I think if one is made legal than so should the other.
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#111554 - 03/02/17 02:36 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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When my ex-husband and I got together we decided against having more children because at the time mine was seven and his were 13 and 15yo, but if I had gotten with a man that wanted children I would have given birth to 3 children to 3 fathers. I don't think this is wrong, just a symptom of a malfunctioning society. I made poor choices regarding partners and as a result my son grew up without a good strong role model.

You should have stopped at "I made poor choices".
It has nothing to do with a "malfunctioning society" but more with your attitude. You've made poor decisions, own-up to them.

As far as it concerns the "Gens.", the "hippy-movement" back in the days were also labeled as "snowflakes". Those from the 80-90ies as well. Just some entitlement and this crazy idea Gen. X/Y/Z/.. by social decree is better or worse than the previous one.

We're doing fine. Maybe slightly better than before due to technological, educational and medicinal advancements.

Shit will always happen. Media only evolved to the point things became apparent and graphic. Events get more exposure despite dwindling in frequency. That, and people have a penchant for drama about others. Hence the distorted image.
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#111556 - 03/02/17 04:13 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: Dimitri]
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Dimitri, I don't blame society for my choices - as I said up above I doubt much would have changed them anyway in my circumstance. My own pathology trumped my better judgement and that is on me. And to be truthful, I don't have any regrets. It was a wild ride, and like I said I was the restless type anyway. The only thing I think is a shame is that I felt guilty for not wanting a career - in hindsight I shouldn't have felt guilty.

As far as society is concerned, I do think we can do better. I mean at the end of the day, it will work out one way or the other... Family units will either get stronger again, or more babies will be born to single Mums. Either way, someone is going to pay for the babies. But nature will prevail - the babies will be born.
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#111557 - 03/02/17 09:30 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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Society is made up of people. So what you're dealing with in a practical sense is a bunch of minds that want different things. How could everyone be pleased anyway? What progress could be made if they were?

Pretty much every innovation was sparked from dissatisfaction and a need to improve one's situation.

Example: Have you seen those water commercials endorsed by Matt Damon ( water.org )? Some minds think that by starting such an organization, promoting it with celebrity endorsement and maybe even throwing some of your own money on it this is a fix. 332 million people without clean sanitized water in Africa is conceptualized as a crisis because we've had the ability (as humans) to do this for almost 200 years. People in the Sub-Saharan region are dropping like flies because they are still a 'developing nation' without this tech.

What is the natural current in this scenario?
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#111568 - 03/02/17 06:41 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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I understand that people want different things and that not everybody will ever be happy.

But your mention of celebrity endorsement is significant, because they are what I feel have been adopted by lost humans in this present time. Most people need somebody to follow and/or to bounce ideas off. Whereas in the passed, before TV and internet became so predominant, people might aim to be like somebody in their community that was doing well, or subconsciously adopt the behaviours and patterns (for good or for bad) of their family and extended family. Perhaps the decline in the family unit was also a factor in people worshipping celebrities and modelling their lives after them. #selfies. Humans adopted celebrities as their role-models.

You see, my main concern with the decline of the family unit is that they were always our first role-models. Through them we learned how to treat and interact with in our own relationships (friends/lovers/outsiders). But there are a lot of people out there now that don't have any role-models for how men and women treat each other and deal with life problems. And I'm not sure that celebrities are the best role-models because their world (at least the one we see) is not always realistic.

Like I said, I don't know the answers and only speculate as to ways it could be improved. With the issue we have discussed here, the improvement I would hope to make would be seeing less single mothers dependent on welfare, and more children growing up with male role models.

But as you implied, this kind of change doesn't happen over night and perhaps it is a beast that will just evolve in its own time.

They say that the next generation will be conservative - naturally counteracting the current SJW trend. In which case, you guys are right in that the natural current will go where it needs to go. Damn! I vote conservative but I am not really that conservative. Now picturing a future generation with a bunch of bible toting misogynists. Lol! Then I would probably vote snowflake...

Lol! So what you guys are saying makes sense. The current will go where it will go and I can just float on a raft, enjoy the waves, get a tan and drink a cocktail. \:\)
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#111578 - 03/03/17 10:18 AM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: ShadowLover]
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You see, my main concern with the decline of the family unit is that they were always our first role-models.


What you're missing here is that there are just as many damaged people breeding, setting the environment for children and what is forged isn't exactly what you'd imagine. I'd be willing to bet that some users of this forum need role models like a hole in the head.

The idea of the nuclear family has been in decline since the late 50's and 60's as Divorce, lack of marriage or non-traditional tribal units have become less taboo. It's only been this decade that the U.S. has normalized the Modern Family and in order to have success with it; introduced it as a comedy/sitcom tv series. It doesn't even cover the full gambit of diverse/alternative lifestyles.


 Originally Posted By: SL
the improvement I would hope to make would be seeing less single mothers dependent on welfare, and more children growing up with male role models.


This has more to do with a lack of foresight and ambition than it does any sort of ideal environment to raise kids.
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#111597 - 03/03/17 08:07 PM Re: Dead Pool USA: Donald Trump [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
This has more to do with a lack of foresight and ambition than it does any sort of ideal environment to raise kids.


That's my point... Not enough young people are having enough vital information filtered down to give them the knowledge they need to have (correct and not fantasy) foresight. They are often doing their best and making the best decisions they know how to make. But they don't have the information they need to be successful.

I'm not talking about their parenting as individuals. Most single Mums are awesome. But there is only so much they can do alone. Family units can provide what the single mother can not.

And I'm not even talking about traditional family - but family unit. I don't care if it is a traditional marriage, or a gay marriage or a polygamous one. So long as their are healthy interactions between the members. With extended family compensating for any divorces or widowing. Family tribes...

And the other thing to remember is that it is okay to say that single parents get the job done (and they usually do), but almost every single parent I know wants a partner and wants to be a family.

Which takes me back to the original suggestion of introducing young women to age appropriate men. 18yo men aren't wanting to settle down and have babies with clucky 18yo girls. So what is wrong with steering our teenage girls to date older men if they are wanting to start families.

At the moment, I feel like young women are obeying their hormones, getting knocked up and then being ridiculed by society for doing so. Teen pregnancy is epidemic and it always will be because it is nature... Why don't young women know that young men don't want family responsibilities? This should be driven into their heads so can have the foresight they need.

Maybe sitcoms need to be showing young women living happily - a portion of them chasing careers and a portion of them dating older men and starting families. And then have another portion getting pregnant to young men, and being dumped and left a struggling single parent and being ridiculed.

...And maybe it would do young men good to have older men stealing their girlfriends - maybe it would help them grow up and see what is required of them as men who wish to be husband/fathers.

Maybe it is older men (27yo and up) who can mend this part of Western society. Hell, if they don't the Muslims will - they will take the clucky teens on as breeders.
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