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#111494 - 02/23/17 05:00 PM The Collapse of the Modern World.
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These are dangerous times. Climate change, mass migration and corruption are many of the issues that have a lot of the worldwide population thinking that the end of the modern world is near. But is it?

In light of this, there are people who promote a return to traditional living, with traditional family (father, mother and children) as the foundation of society and self-sufficiency as way of living. There are those who see this decline as a chance to resurrect old regimes (Fascism and National Socialism), riding the wave of general discontent to wash away everything they deem as "degenerate."

Are those people right? Is it time we embrace the old or do we let things run their course until there's none of us left? Are we indeed seeing the end of days or will humankind find a way to keep going forward?
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#111495 - 02/23/17 06:09 PM Re: The Rise of The New World [Re: Sargeist]
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It's always Armageddon. The world is always succumbing to degeneracy.

The crux being along the lines of, This makes me uncomfortable so I'm gonna withdraw into a nice zone where godless values and the erosion of gender roles won't hurt me.

"Anti PC" is a convenient motivation, but it's just a part of the many ways nomos is rewriting itself *and* the resistance that always happens when people are persuaded how to think in a way that's adverse to them.

Here's some foreshadowing though: The degenerates will win and then people will adapt.
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#111511 - 02/25/17 12:15 PM Re: The Rise of The New World [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Anti PC" is a convenient motivation, but it's just a part of the many ways nomos is rewriting itself *and* the resistance that always happens when people are persuaded how to think in a way that's adverse to them.

Agreed. Use your PC facade and SJW front around those whose politics are their religious dogma. Go home and bone the old lady and tell her how simple LBM and a little psyhcology allows you into the confidences of those you wish to crush and/or co-opt. Finally when that becomes nomain/nomos switch it up and become a rabid SJW PC line toeing ubermensch. Fuck you SJW's, you're the new Jehovah's witnesses. Use any and all options to not be a pawn in another's ploy for glory and notoriety, possibly using a passive aggressive stance build up said person and when most convenient, and amusing to you, drop your "superior" on his head. Because screwing with a djinn is some kind of sin.


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#111514 - 02/25/17 11:51 PM Re: The Rise of The New World [Re: duhsquidbilly]
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What concerns me is the Veruca Salt nature of millennials. I'm afraid the extent of the ubermensch SJW is to piss themselves with idle bitching until they lose interest when a more shiny cause comes along.  It's just a lot of noise, and I think the "superior" is the NON-GMO project.

Most of them are harmless broken invalids still pissed off about high school.
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#111520 - 02/27/17 01:36 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Sargeist]
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Inherent to nature will any animal, when faced with danger, opt for a protectionist and closed stance.

The current political evolution, the current "shift" in attitude, has to do with people generally pulling up their walls because they see the danger heading straight for them.

We're in a period, after 2-3 international economical crashes, where people wake up and start seeing the flaws and weaknesses in the established order. The modern world is putting up its walls to strengthen itself. Hence the reason why (alt-)right is gaining so much momentum worldwide. It offers a protectionist stance that promises safety (the fulfillment is a whole other thing).

We'll survive. Such shifts happen regularly. It only has been a while since the last one occurred.

Just be sure you have the skills to safe your own skin... it shouldn't be that hard when walking down this particular path.
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#111532 - 02/28/17 03:24 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Sargeist]
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 Originally Posted By: Sargeist
But is it?


Yes. The end of one thing is always the beginning of The Next. The Wheel turns irregardless of you or me. This is Satanism in a nutshell, my friend.

Ain't no sech word as irregardless. Muhfuh.


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#111542 - 03/01/17 09:52 AM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Sargeist]
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 Originally Posted By: Sarge
In light of this, there are people who promote a return to traditional living


I think the real question to ask yourself is how much if/any influence do they have over your perception?

Do you really see the world as a dangerous place? Or do you long for shit to pop-off?

Another thing to consider is this: Get out from behind the apron of your family to see what you're really made of. Then, and only then can you determine how much danger you're really in.
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#111567 - 03/02/17 05:49 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: SIN3]
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People are tiring of the "progressive"(lol) left and all the hippy dippy touchy feely goo that comes with it.

Of course the only logical reaction is PANIC.
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#111570 - 03/02/17 06:55 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Dan_Dread]
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I've always seen the world as a dangerous place. I grew up with not much stability or security and always felt vulnerable. But! This also led me to vigilance and to strengthen myself.

I still see the world as a dangerous place. But I also trust in my ability to survive, so am less afraid (a little fear keeps you vigilant).
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#111679 - 03/09/17 05:59 AM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: ShadowLover]
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 Originally Posted By: ShadowLover
I've always seen the world as a dangerous place. I grew up with not much stability or security and always felt vulnerable. But! This also led me to vigilance and to strengthen myself.

I still see the world as a dangerous place. But I also trust in my ability to survive, so am less afraid (a little fear keeps you vigilant).

Pretty much, same thoughts here.

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#118163 - 01/25/19 08:34 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Herzeleid]
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Well, this is getting quite disturbing. The propaganda media has made an utter joke of themselves in the past few years but after this last weekends overtly anti white racist propaganda to socially engineer the public's opinion against white people has really put the icing on the cake.

America now seems to be the most united they have been in fear, confusion, disgust and hate. The corrupt media have their weakest hold on the public narrative they ever have and have since laid off over 1000 main stream media workers as a result of the damage from the weekends hit piece on the teenager for being whit... I mean an obvious white supremacist Trump loving racist literal Nazi alt-right deplorable.

Then, they made a major change to the YouTube algorithm today in order to block people from accessing the truth. See ya later free speech. Was a fun ride. They now get to decide what constitutes truth on YouTube.

Then the government re-opens and at the same time they raid Roger Stone's house early this morning and it appears CNN put a tracker on the FBI since they were right there on the scene to record as it happened. Nothing to see here folks. They have nothing serious on him and it is clear to anyone paying attention that this is quickly turning into a third world fascist police state. People are the most aware they have ever been and are extremely angry. Let the countdown to chaos begin. Good luck folks.


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#118172 - 01/26/19 03:36 AM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: MindFck]
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Well, this is getting quite disturbing. The propaganda media has made an utter joke of themselves in the past few years but after this last weekends overtly anti white racist propaganda to socially engineer the public's opinion against white people has really put the icing on the cake.


Depends on the network. Rupurt Murdoch balances it back for (Mostly Protestant Christian) White America.  The current focus on white people in a such a negative light is representative of the hatred for the president. 

It's an inverse property.  The colloquial meaning of the Trump catch phrase "Make America Great Again" is divided bicamerally.

It can mean; "Make America The 1950's again", "Make America White Again", "Make America embrace family values again", or "Make America holy again."

This, sadly will most of the time be biased party line issues.

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America now seems to be the most united they have been in fear, confusion, disgust and hate. The corrupt media have their weakest hold on the public narrative they ever have and have since laid off over 1000 main stream media workers as a result of the damage from the weekends hit piece on the teenager for being whit... I mean an obvious white supremacist Trump loving racist literal Nazi alt-right deplorable.


Naw, it's divided like envisioned so many years ago.

 In that trapezoid piece in The Devil's Notebook, LaVey mentioned something about, "the trapezoid keeps people from noticing the all seeing eye". 

That's about it. You equally divide folk over arbitrary differences on social and financial issues and you will always maintain control. But they will think they have a choice.  And some choose to 'protest' every time Trump does anything.  Usually on twitter. This is the Twitter administration. 

While this president makes me miss W as the republican, a businessman always knows how to make the mark think he has something they need. In this case, the president who will make the annoying queers shut the fuck up.

Now that's the line. The pentultimate frontier of civil rights before robosexuals. That doesn't change they are pitting their ideologies against one an another in an orderly, albeit persistent fashion. 

It's about every 40 years.  Suffrage 1920's, segregation 1960's, and LGBTQ7-X  2000's. This means in the 2040's America will confront all the nerds with their "lovebots".

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Then, they made a major change to the YouTube algorithm today in order to block people from accessing the truth. See ya later free speech. Was a fun ride. They now get to decide what constitutes truth on YouTube.


At least the Catholic church doesn't rate movies for people anymore, and there is a torrent for all truth.  People really dont need suggestions from youtube if they are into that.

I find it amusing they are deliberately baiting "truth seekers".  In so doing they will only make them more popular, and more sought out.  Why draw attention to, or even announce it? Reverse reverse psychology?

 How many idiots did half-witted dreck like Zeitgeist or Loose Change get marching to the false flag cover up.  "Bush is evil and he killed firefighters!" The malleable stupidity of people...

Funny story on that: I got banned from a Medical Cannabis dispensary in 2010 (someone connected with Loose Change owned) for working for the US Census as an enumerator.  I was helping gather data for the FEMA camps.

But to any 'sinister' motive, it's a keyword search algorithm.  The conspjracy should be, "The NSA wants to know what people are searching", because Snowden didn't already tell the world about PRISM and fusion centers.

It is a logically circuitous and unnecessary fear/paranoia that everyone in the universe has.

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Then the government re-opens and at the same time they raid Roger Stone's house early this morning and it appears CNN put a tracker on the FBI since they were right there on the scene to record as it happened. Nothing to see here folks. They have nothing serious on him and it is clear to anyone paying attention that this is quickly turning into a third world fascist police state. People are the most aware they have ever been and are extremely angry. Let the countdown to chaos begin. Good luck folks.


Aware of what exactly?  Not their programming, obviously. 

People are predisposed to think evil forces are plotting against them.  It's fun to blame when you are mad, but without proof, you get mad in an infinite loop. In the modern age god/devil was replaced with good government/bad government, complete with warring factions. If it is still the former it is almost always the latter.

As far as freedom of speech goes, I posted a diagram on how I plan to kill pedestrians in a bar disrict with my car on multiple social media sites.  I am not even on a no fly list... yet.

That leads me to believe you need to also do things like enroll at Embry Riddle and want to only learn how to steer it. 
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#118179 - 01/26/19 03:01 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Maybe in your pandemonium there, which tends to become an evil force in itself. No wonder the paranoid angst, perpetuated by testosterone, gun policy, capital punishment, income disparity, crippling student debt, 'sporadic' poverty. And a burgeoning prison population which give new meaning to your flag's stripes: bars and stripes not stars. Forgive the repeat, but how many of you does it take to screw in a light bulb? And then the bulb won't burn!
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#118182 - 01/26/19 09:41 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: aeon6]
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Forgive the repeat, but how many of you does it take to screw in a light bulb? And then the bulb won't burn!


21.  1 to screw it in, 10 to ban incondescent versions of lightbulbs and 10 more to stock up on them because this hippie tree hugging shit can lick their ass.

While all the things you mention certainly have their vice grip on everyone, it is WAY more apparent when you follow politics, facebook, or other people.

But  I can explain the following:

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angst, perpetuated by testosterone, gun policy, capital punishment, income disparity, crippling student debt, 'sporadic' poverty. And a burgeoning prison population


Though the gender stuff is retro sheik, the first few are all party line divisions.

This will be a given when half the population firmly believes in capital gains tax reduction, trickle down reaganomics bullshit, and basically anything the Rush Limbaugh's say.

On the flip side, until a democrat is back in office it will be the march of the pussy hats.

Still the same old two party Federalist vs. Democratic Republican dynamic.

For the rest...

30 million are below the poverty line. What is 'poor' varies by locale. The city I live in defines a low income family of four as "at or below 63,400/year.  Up the coast in San Fransisco it is 117,600 for a family of four. That is in contrast to places like Mississippi.

The funny thing about poverty here is, the more into it one is born, the more opportunities to correct that become available.

A black male from Compton that finishes high school and has college ambition will have NAACP graced options, and then get to learn the ALL TOO TRUE American joy of drowning in student loan debt.

As far as prisons go that is the prison industrial complex. Even convict housing strives towards laissez faire capitalism and federal contracts. 
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#118891 - 03/11/19 06:33 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Sargeist]
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All times are dangerous. Mass migration in the past may have led to differentiation through human species, that's nothing new. making more from the least is our job from a long time ago. The end of the modern world is near, if you consider change as an end.
That family thing, I don't see it as a turning back. In fact a turning back would be the team as a hunting unit. breeding is part of it. In fact regime fits the kind of formation for survival, in plain words.
What you call degenerate would be only a minor flaw in the course of transformation into a more eligible survival unit, for example a hunting unit (a different team than the "family").
Experiments in real life could verify increased bond value among individuals that share common ancestors than plain biological similarities.
Fascism and National Socialism are not really that "old" regimes. Family is an older conception, consider that the "father" is as old as the sky .
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#118952 - 03/19/19 06:11 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: fiendish]
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Take a look at the end of the bronze age.
Human civilization collapsed completely.
It was so hard that we almost lost our the ability to write.

Why? Because all cultures were very strongly connected and dependent on each other, just like today in even more extreme form.
Does this make a civilization vulnerable?
No, the opposite. They were able to resist catastrophes that would have wiped out almost all kingdoms before and after.
But when the case came it was even harder.

Nowadays we are probably able to get all the "catastrophes" of our ancestors at once without going under.
But should it come to a fall it will probably go back to the Stone Age.

Modern technology and our total dependence on it is the greatest strength and weakness of our civilization.
I don't think we're gonna be it ourselves.
Economic crises can become very extreme, but they do not destroy knowledge.
But with the next major economic crisis, i think a lot will change in terms of world politics and a lot of new systems.
Anyway, some of the things you might think of as problems are more like trying to solve bigger problems.
No one can claim not to know the dangers of mass immigration, but it's tragically one of the best ways to support things like the pension system in the future (ais are unfortunately not that far yet).
Also you can introduce a lot of new laws to create additional stability.
With a more distant view on things, there are always new things to look at.

If it is ever going to happen I belive the doomsday will be by external factors such as solar storms etc.

Going forward is the ultimate strength of mankind.
If there was a problem, we found ways to solve it.
Technology and technological development is exponential.
I think there is no self-made problem that we could not solve with technology.
Genetically modified super wheat for x times the yield, rice that can be cultivated in salt water on the sea, nuclear fusion for infinite power supply, geo engineering and so on.
The greatest protection for mankind would probably be to colonize another planet, but that will probably take some time.

A very good video series about the end of the Bronze Age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkMP328eU5Q


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#121001 - 12/12/19 12:19 AM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Sargeist]
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These are not very dangerous times, in my opinion, but they are times characterized by decay.

Relative to the other events and situations that have presented through history, there is hardly anything very troubling that is currently extant in the modern world that should give us cause to fear for our safety. This is especially true in the western world. The slow progress of climate change, the general malaise of slight economic downturn, and the mostly harmless influx of migrants are nothing at all compared to world wars, the black death, the invasion of mongol hordes, etc. It may be true that things are more dangerous today than in the near past, but that is not quite cause to say that "these are dangerous times" in particular. Maybe our present level of danger is building to greater danger, or maybe it will pass, this is yet to be seen.

Despite this, something still seems wrong with our world in the modern day as opposed to the past, and this ties in to something else you have mentioned: degeneracy. We are plagued by this above all else, perhaps due to increasing access to frivolous consumer goods and services, perhaps due to a failure of the education system, perhaps due to the effects of technology and social media, or perhaps due simply to the propaganda of a degenerately decadent culture, degeneracy is everywhere, and it is for this reason that we must embrace the old, rather than any more material reason having to do with our migration policy or etc. We have pushed individualism and egalitarianism too far, so that every worthless knave can do whatever he or she wants, unrestrained by any higher guidance or coercion. Consequently we have entire generations that are focused on stupid shit like idly vaping and listening to hip hop rather than anything socially or personally positive. Social and romantic relations are shallow, meaningless, and fickle. People in general do not subscribe to any notion of a higher purpose or mission, societal or religious, and they act accordingly, nor does anyone have much of an expansive group identity. We don't have any great discoveries, breakthroughs, and so on, because our talent pools have stagnated due to the inevitable laziness of the populace.

All the tools that the ruling class used to use to restrain the inevitable ridiculousness of the rabble have gone away, accelerated to an extreme degree in the reaction to WW1 and its supposed cultural underpinnings. We can no longer claim that anyone is inferior, that anyone deserves to be ruled over as a result of their status, that there is any such thing as a cohesive group identity that can act in unison and be commanded and influenced, that one ought to respect the people above them, or that social/political power can be vested in any one person. We have even strayed further as of late into the individualism spectrum than we already were; not only can one not be commanded by another, but one is increasingly not beholden to any kind of moral code other than the fluctuations of personal emotions.

This all may seem well and good to the satanist, and indeed it may be. But surely it is not preferable that everyone in a society behave this way, and consequently I believe we do need to return to older ways of thinking and behaving, lest our society be overtaken by pure degeneracy. This must be strictly on a traditional basis, rather than on the basis of some alternative form of social hierarchy like fascism or communism, because traditional hierarchies have stood the test of time and advanced gradually as needed, while fascism and communism are circumstantial aberrations motivated by the ambitions of their ideologues.

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#121042 - Today at 01:41 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: CCB]
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I can agree on the degeneracy in this world.
Low quality women having cheesecake eaten out of their muff by some loser cuck.
Trannies educating kids in drag in schools.


Reasons are plentiful.

I stopped watching tv ages ago and youtube only serves as background music.

Spending my days coaching, (web-)designing and tutoring.
I hear friends talk about some weird shit they found on the internet and openly shared in a whatsapp group.

I'm a bit alienated from modern media but by the little news which does reach my eyes and ears it is the kind of alienation best maintained.
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#121043 - Today at 02:24 PM Re: The Collapse of the Modern World. [Re: Dimitri]
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Another scathing or damning manifesto of humanity in the 2002 book "The Pathology of Civilization" by John Zerzan (Feralhouse.com). Parallels to Theodore Kazinsky but with dark humor imparted serve to make it a pragmatic read. For bedtime though? You might have a wet dream.
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