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#112576 - 04/27/17 06:56 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: LoneWolf78]
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When I was referring to rights, I was obviously referring to one's rights in context of society. Your rights as a citizen of the country, or your human rights. This is clearly what I was referring to, and yet you went and assumed I was referring to moral values, and that I suggested the existence of right and wrong as absolute things. Clearly you skipped some reading and comprehension classes, idiot.

So you're implying that I am a Christian because I pointed out the fact that incest is not promoted within Christian society? Okay, then are you a crossdressing loser with too much acne who got picked on in school because you're a satanist and you idolize nutcases such as Michael Aquino? For somebody pretending to be clever, you're not very clever when it comes to stereotypes that affect your own little group, are you?

And no, I'm not a Christian, but I'm also not a satanist, because I don't live my life trying to be the antithesis of something else, and unfortunately that's all satanists are, anti-Christians. That makes you more pathetic than Christians to me, living your life as some sad little rebel because you were rejected. Now if you rebelled because of individuality, and because of a conflict of character, that is noble, but this is not the reason for the majority of you satanists. The majority of you satanists are social rejects, you're fat, gay, transgender, small, and weak. Which is why I don't want to associate myself with your kind.

I'm not saying all of you are like that, Lavey was like a great fire in the world, and it attracted pathetic little insects, which is the majority of satanists, to it's brilliant blaze. It's the same with any ideology, most scientists are idiots who go into science because they want to prove they're smart to somebody else, not because they can contribute to science, or because they have the innate ability to be pioneers.

Your rights come from you? So you're immune from your laws little peasant? I'm an idealistic person myself, but unlike you, I actually have to live by them. Since you mistook my reference to rights with right and wrong, and you then went on to imply that you formulate your own rights in society as part of your folly, why don't you go do something illegal, put it on youtube and show us exactly how you dictate your own rights.


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#112580 - 04/27/17 07:22 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Ubermensch23]
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The majority of you satanists are social rejects, you're fat, gay, transgender, small, and weak. Which is why I don't want to associate myself with your kind.


Why are you so hung up (pun fully intended) on gays and transgender people?

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Your rights come from you?


So does everyone's.

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So you're immune from your laws little peasant?


My rights and law have nothing to do with one another.

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Since you mistook my reference to rights with right and wrong


There is no right or wrong. That is all subjective mumbo jumbo my friend.

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I'm an idealistic person myself, but unlike you, I actually have to live by them.


No you don't. That is only your own mind imprisoning you.

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Why don't you go do something illegal, put it on youtube and show us exactly how you dictate your own rights.


Well, that would clearly go against the Satanic sin of stupidity, wouldn't it?

My point being there is nothing stopping anyone from doing anything that they want.

Is there a price to pay for breaking governmental laws?

Of course.

There is a cost for everything.

Pragmatism is key here.

If you feel that you need to do something then do it. You must, however, weigh the potential consequences of if you get caught.

Again, no right or wrong.

Completely subjective.

Some people feel that doing something is worth the potential cost if they get caught doing something illegal. Likewise, even if they are caught, nothing stopped them from doing it.

BTW....nowhere did I imply that you were a Christian. That is your own reflection, it's got nothing to do with me.

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I'm also not a satanist


Then being on this board must be little more than a waste of your time.

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#112582 - 04/27/17 07:28 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Sabrina27]
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I hope you're not implying that persecuting homosexuals is wrong? If so, it seems you have more in common with modern day Christians than you thought. Homosexuality was present in pre-Christian Europe, but it was notably frowned upon by Celtic, Germanic, and Roman people. It was always considered an unmanly thing.

I hope you're not going to imply that rape is wrong too? Otherwise you may have even more in common with Christians, since they oppose rape. Are you sure you're not a Christian? Now I'm not implying anybody opposed to rape is Christian, but don't go wearing your moral values on your sleeve, it makes you seem idiotic. Rape is not wrong, because wrong does not scientifically exist, it exists for each individual to determine for himself, thus is subjective, and thus has no place in an argument or a debate.

If you are going to go around pretending your moral values are superior to my own, are you prepared to kill me in order to live according to those values? Or do you consider killing people for opposing your views as "wrong" too? Therein lies the irony of idealistic people who's ideals only go as far as their tongues, you really look like an idiot when you're not willing to live according to those ideals. I'm in a segregated white area in South Africa called Kleinfontein, I recently moved here, last year, even though there are many Christians, I prefer them to blacks. You think black people don't despise me because it reminds them of Apartheid? You think they don't want to commit genocide every day? You think I'm not prepared to die, just so I don't have to live with those monkeys?

The point is, that don't go around trying to seem noble, when you're not. Talking about your ideals and living according to your ideals is something completely different. Just like touching the moon's reflection in a pond doesn't mean you actually touched the moon.


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#112583 - 04/27/17 07:38 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Ubermensch23]
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Ok, now let me hold up the mirror. Ready for the reflection son?

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I don't live my life trying to be the antithesis of something else.


Yes you do.

By your own posts in the chat box, you are anti-American.

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unfortunately that's all satanists are, anti-Christians. That makes you more pathetic than Christians to me, living your life as some sad little rebel because you were rejected.


So, let's put this in the reflective perspective here:

Unfortunately, that's all that you are, anti-American. That must make you more pathetic than Americans to yourself. After all, you are living your life as a sad little rebel because you feel that your country was rejected.

You have my sympathy.

Here endeth the lesson.

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#112584 - 04/27/17 07:44 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: LoneWolf78]
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Not really, this board is for Satanism and occult, thus perhaps you should acquire some new spectacles, smart ass. You do realize that Laveyanism isn't the only form of Satanism either right? And that there are Druidic, Agnostic Pagans, Luciferians, Hindus not of the Upandishad-branches, and many more types of people on these forms right? All of these are also left-hand path, just so you know.

I've continuously stated right and wrong do not exist, are you fucking illiterate? I'm hung up on gays and transgenders because it's something both myself and our ancestors considered disgraceful, not only Christians hate gays, not only muslims either.

Your rights and laws are inherently bound to one another, maybe you should review your understanding of the law so you don't sound so clinically retarded every time you post something.

Thanks for referring to your little Satanic laws, further proving my point that you're nothing but a sheep living according to the dogma imposed upon you by somebody else. And here you were trying to appear as a free thinking individual by referencing your much beloved dogma, from your much beloved Satanic Bible. Oh the irony.

Oh, and I'm not anti-American. America was historically a very great country, which is being destroyed by the weak brainwashed population thereof. Same with Europe, how can I be anti-European when I am of European heritage and culture? Contradiction seems to be your only talent. I'll reply to your gibberish tomorrow, it's almost 2 AM here. Fear not, nothing shall forestall my return dearest buffoon.


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#112585 - 04/27/17 08:17 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Ubermensch23]
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I don't know if anyone caught my sarcasm in my last post. It really does come down to what Sin and LoneWolf said. Incest/inner family marriage and coupling is nothing new. It would also seem that many states here in the US (Oregon not being one) have made it completely legal, or legal with prerequisite demand. I'll just say that my post on inner family sex/coupling/marriage is something shared by many cultures, and its no wonder people flock here. Believe it or not, the U.S. is pretty lax about how you choose to live your sex-life compared to a lot of other countries. One reason out of many why people choose to come to the U.S. and not other countries in the Americas. They might want to vacation in Central America or Canada, but will gravitate to the U.S. first and foremost to take advantage of western living.

Concerning sex/incest: Our sexual laws are little to none compared to other countries. We've also come to a point of normalizing immature bullshit like BDSM, not to mention imposing acceptance of alternative sexualities.

We've drained the cup in terms of sexual shock value. What do we have left? That's why incest porn is in demand. Our country has become so fixed on cultural differences that we've decided to forgo integrity in favour of emotional retardation/fat acceptance/incest.

LoneWolf, you nailed it. Yes, often U.S. people take time to learn other languages and cultural values before they go to another country. Many out there want what we in the U.S. have built and regulated, while at the same time spitting on values that made this country productive and desirable.

I realize our nation was built on immigration and that not everyone who comes here is completely disrespectful of our foundational standards. Yet, as people continue to see our country as something to take advantage of, and not something to adapt to, many will continue to flock here and spit.

Concerning muslims and SJWs: They want this country's resource and power to execute on their behalf without compromise on their part, let alone respect to what made this country strong in the first place: Masculinity, revolutionary defiance, unity, focus, integrity, compromise and dedication to overall development and promotion of science and infrastructure, to name a few.

Not only did we take this country by force in the American Revolution, we turned it into the most productive and scientifically innovative nation the world has ever seen, all within a few hundred years. We put ours and our own progress first before total cultural acceptance.

I have many gripes with our culture these days, namely this great promotion of personal weakness, that its OK to have no sense of self refinement.

A nation becomes what it feeds itself, attracting those who'd take advantage of the same.



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#112589 - 04/28/17 12:12 AM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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I don't know if anyone caught my sarcasm in my last post.


I did and my apologies for not responding. I just got caught up in the discussion.

One thing I wanted to address from that:

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Incest is a fantasy for most, even women, I don't think culture has so much to do with it as innate human developmental and sexual biology.


This is something that I have heard about adult chatrooms (not that I ever go in them ). They are loaded with women who are really into the mother/son stuff.

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Believe it or not, the U.S. is pretty lax about how you choose to live your sex-life compared to a lot of other countries.

We've also come to a point of normalizing immature bullshit like BDSM, not to mention imposing acceptance of alternative sexualities.

We've drained the cup in terms of sexual shock value. What do we have left? That's why incest porn is in demand. Our country has become so fixed on cultural differences that we've decided to forgo integrity in favour of emotional retardation/fat acceptance/incest.


Very much so.

Here is something interesting talking about porn, South Africa, and women: Hopefully the laws have changed. However, back in the 1980's, South Africa had the highest rates of the sexual and other mistreatment of women. In America, during this same time, you had the Falwells, Robertsons, Dworkins and Mackinnon's all united in their hatred of porn. They said that there was a causal relationship to porn, sexual violence and demeaning attitudes towards women. However, our rates on this kind of thing was no where near as much as South Africa, where you couldn't even get such benign things as Playboy or Penthouse. So if anything, despite the folks here who decried porn, the statistics showed exactly the opposite. Places that repressed sex and sexually explicit materials had higher numbers of rape and other kinds of sexual violence.

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LoneWolf, you nailed it. Yes, often U.S. people take time to learn other languages and cultural values before they go to another country. Many out there want what we in the U.S. have built and regulated, while at the same time spitting on values that made this country productive and desirable.


Thank you. Likewise, those people who are spitting on American values are growing in numbers daily.

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Concerning muslims and SJWs: They want this country's resource and power to execute on their behalf without compromise on their part, let alone respect to what made this country strong in the first place: Masculinity, revolutionary defiance, unity, focus, integrity, compromise and dedication to overall development and promotion of science and infrastructure, to name a few.


This is what our friend Ubermensch23 doesn't seem to understand. The SJWs and the Muslims are in the same camp. If the SJWs had their way we would let even more American haters into our country, hence the fit that they threw over Trump's travel ban. Also, the majority of America obviously does not side with these SJW types or Donald Trump would not be President Trump today.

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Not only did we take this country by force in the American Revolution, we turned it into the most productive and scientifically innovative nation the world has ever seen, all within a few hundred years. We put ours and our own progress first before total cultural acceptance.


Which is what made America great.

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I have many gripes with our culture these days, namely this great promotion of personal weakness, that its OK to have no sense of self refinement.

A nation becomes what it feeds itself, attracting those who'd take advantage of the same.


Agreed. Our propaganda machine is stupid. Every time that Kim Jong Un plays with his bottle rockets our media shakes in it's boots. Thus far I have seen nothing but something to laugh at. By now you'd think that little Kim would have thoroughly embarrassed himself and hide his head in the sand. I have also not seen any evidence that Russia has the strongest military any more than they ever have had. I just hope that President Trump cripples them like Reagan did and that as a country we have learned from our mistakes and once we defeat or cripple a country never give them any assistance or help them rebuild in any way.

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#112594 - 04/28/17 05:55 AM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Ubermensch23]
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 Originally Posted By: Ubermensch23
I hope you're not going to imply that rape is wrong too? Otherwise you may have even more in common with Christians, since they oppose rape. Are you sure you're not a Christian? Now I'm not implying anybody opposed to rape is Christian, but don't go wearing your moral values on your sleeve, it makes you seem idiotic. Rape is not wrong, because wrong does not scientifically exist, it exists for each individual to determine for himself, thus is subjective, and thus has no place in an argument or a debate.

You don't seem trying to be subjective for letting the scientists linger at the back of your mind. Anyways you don't need to rationalise rape to make it OK. The same way you don't rationalise incest just based on two people loving each other and use contraception on your mother or your great grandmother and it would be fine.

Secondly yes I agree rights and wrongs don't exist unless in the moral values you were confined in. Now you're saying you would belittle your moral values for objectivity so you can sleep with your own mother?(forgoing the genetic defects of incest) Or you would belittle your moral values to violate else’s dignity?? Now you're utter disgust! What else excuse you desire to fulfill your filthy fantasies?

As the Atheist Mackie says, “There are no objective moral truths.”
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#112595 - 04/28/17 05:57 AM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Sabrina27]
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Assuming you're an Atheist, don't forget even atheists holds codes of morality
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#112596 - 04/28/17 01:59 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Sabrina27]
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Score, a RAPE redirect!

I'd say rape is dishonorable, but "wrong" is up to the rapist or rapee. The aggressor may see it as an instinctual "club over the head and drag to the cave", and justify it as being the dominant male animal. Or he could just like controlling people through fear, which can also be justified the same way.

This is how I look at rape.

The human "mating dance" varies on society. In most western boring human hetero-relationships the Man is expected to be the aggressor and "win" the affection through a prostitute/John type exchange in which he pays for sex with "game". This includes trying to appear like the peacock with the most feathers (wearing nice clothes), showing interest in ______ (That is so interesting), Doing a display (dance to shitty music), buying drinks (because all bitches are broke), or otherwise establishing oneself as a "provider" of some sort.

Read as: default prostitution.

Rape appeals to those who can't do the above, just don't want to, or are too cheap to pay an actual whore, or go to a strip club near closing and find the whore that has no qualms with earning a little extra money.&nsp;

The motivation likely stems from being pent up and incapable of getting laid through "traditional" routes. This leads to an inferiority/hostility complex which becomes the pathology of the individual.

"If I can't get you through charm, I'll remove that as necessary."

Rape might not be "wrong" in a world where good and evil fall along subjective definition, but neither is the father, brother, and friend hunting you down to beat your skull into the pavement.

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#112599 - 04/28/17 04:36 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: LoneWolf78]
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 Originally Posted By: LW
In part, sarcasm. In part, sexual hypocrisy. In part, to scrutinize Islamic morality.


Fair enough but there will always be hypocrisy in EVERY sphere of human behavior. Including this one.

Moral codes are adopted to guide behavior. Lest we forget all these religious tomes were written by man. There's 'incest' in all of them because it was a common practice to preserve family lines and address the impulse to fuck whatever is close by. Including sheep, camels, etc.

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mortified beyond all things if two people of the same sex get it on.


All religious tomes address this too, Islam (being the youngest of the Big 3) is no exception. It's really not a mystery really, peoples absent of common sense and medical break-throughs spread STDS. My theory on Semitic peoples circumcising boys was for the women. Imagine the hygiene of these people. Imagine being told you have to breed with the dirtyest dick you've ever seen in your life because people didn't wash frequently; let alone pull the foreskin down to clean their shmegma. Imagine coming at you after having fucked that sheep, camel, and your fellow herder.

Part of the human condition is to interpret everything so darmn literal and turn mountains into mole-hills. God doesn't hate fags, man does.
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#112600 - 04/28/17 05:09 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: SIN3]
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Fair enough but there will always be hypocrisy in EVERY sphere of human behavior. Including this one.


I agree with this. I don't think that there is one group of people who could claim a monopoly on hypocrisy at some level.

Aside for the reasons that I have already stated, I think that my post could also be considered reactionary to those who live in America and have elevated Muslims to some kind of untouchable sainthood. I see it this way, there is not a group of people in this country that hasn't had shit talked about them. Muslims should be no exception. That is equality.

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Lest we forget all these religious tomes were written by man. There's 'incest' in all of them because it was a common practice to preserve family lines and address the impulse to fuck whatever is close by. Including sheep, camels, etc.


I agree. Propagation of the species and fuck fuck fuck. Makes sense.

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 Originally Posted By: LW
mortified beyond all things if two people of the same sex get it on.


 Originally Posted By: SIN
All religious tomes address this too, Islam (being the youngest of the Big 3) is no exception. It's really not a mystery really, peoples absent of common sense and medical break-throughs spread STDS.


On this one I must admit to confusion on your point. You seem to be talking of ignorance of hygiene and medical breakthroughs. While there have been homosexuals throughout history who have spread stds, they certainly not the only group of people who have. As a part of the human experience homosexuals have progressed with everyone else. So I am stumped by your seeming to link homosexuality and people absent of common sense, medical break-throughs who spread stds. Please explain it further or tell me what I have misunderstood.

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Imagine the hygiene of these people. Imagine being told you have to breed with the dirtyest dick you've ever seen in your life because people didn't wash frequently; let alone pull the foreskin down to clean their shmegma. Imagine coming at you after having fucked that sheep, camel, and your fellow herder.


Ok, I know what you are saying and while gross, I can't also help but laugh. I still do not know what this has to do with homosexuality but I will await your response.

On a funny side note an many years ago an old friend of mine told me about the word smegma and what it meant. I tried to prank several pizza places by starting out asking what types of cheese that they had. The idea was to follow through with, "do you have smegma cheese by chance?"

I couldn't do this with a straight face. Every time I would get close, I would just bust out laughing. My friend was much more successful than I. She asked what kinds of cheese that they had. The guy told her and then she said, "Do you have smegma cheese?" He says, "Smegma? I am not sure. Is it an organic cheese?" She told him that it was. We can then hear him asking his manager, "Hey do we have any smegma cheese?" His boss asks him what it is. He says, "She says it is an organic cheese. I know we have some but I forget the names." His boss then replies, "I don't think we have smegma at the moment, but tell her we are adding to our organic selection so to check back."

I had to go in the next room I was laughing so hard.

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#112602 - 04/28/17 06:58 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Rape is dishonourable? Honour is subjective, thus no. I think you've just been too brainwashed with pussified rhetoric since a young age, that you've never mentally been a man. Isn't this why your American bitches are all blowing foreign men?

Who determines what honour is? Your masters in the government? Your master from the Satanic Bible? What is less dishonourable, winning unfairly, or losing fairly? Who determines that? Each man determines that for himself.

But since you've lived a sheltered life, the only thing you know about honour, is some bullshit a feminist romantic wrote in a book. The samurai were so honourable, yet they raped peasant girls. Does that mean you're more honourable than they were because you didn't rape somebody? Wrong. Same can be said of European knights, after battles, the losing side's women got raped brutally. Who are you to tell real men what honour is from the comfort of your couch?

But then again, you are a modern American. Your ancestors slayed the Indian savages, build a country from nothing and now you're throwing it away, you're not a man. The only sports you play, is sports other countries consider woman's sports, such as basketball and baseball. You probably never even played sports, too busy crying to Satan to save your from the bullies because you were too little of a man to do it yourself.


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#112603 - 04/28/17 07:09 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Sabrina27]
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All I see from you, is a woman projecting her Christian morals upon everybody else. You should really do research regarding the origins of your moral values, so as to ascertain whether what you are, and what you claim to be, don't clash, as it already is.

If my mother, growing up, looked like Sharon Stone, fuck yes, I would have fucked her. Why wouldn't I? Because of peer pressure? Because it's not cool? Because the bible told you so? You're not a very independent person at all are you?

Can you scientifically prove those women who get raped have dignity in the first place? Nope, just like with morality, dignity is a subjective fabrication people choose to believe in, a convenient lie. And even if you did have dignity, what value does your dignity have to me? If I were to choose between raping you in order to have a good time, and not raping you, so as to spare your nonexistent dignity, why would I choose the latter?

The only people who would choose the latter are posers such as yourself, who contradict your claims over and over again. You don't believe in right and wrong, but you believe people are equal and that people have dignity, and therefore according to you rape is wrong? You contradict everything you say, you illiterate cunt. Not only that, but you can't properly construct sentences in your primary language.

If I wanted to commit suicide, I would climb your naivety and jump to your IQ. How about shut the fuck up, go work in the kitchen, and don't try to argue when you can't properly construct sentences.


Edited by Ubermensch23 (04/28/17 07:12 PM)
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#112608 - 04/28/17 08:18 PM Re: Islamic Incest [Re: Ubermensch23]
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If my mother, growing up, looked like Sharon Stone, fuck yes, I would have fucked her. Why wouldn't I?


Oh, Hell, what do you care? Just because your mother is too ugly for you to fuck, why not throw a paper bag on her head, put your lap top on her ass, play Basic Instinct, and have at it? That way you can pridefully call yourself a mother fucker in the truest sense of the word. \:\)

Going by the rest of your logic, I suppose you would see nothing wrong if a black gay guy with a ten inch dick were to take you down and make you his bitch right?

After all, he would just be having a good time and it is not as though you have dignity.

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