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#118642 - 02/17/19 04:34 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: MindFck]
Czereda Offline
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You wanted to look smart posting that ironic reply, but you really don't. I gather from your post that you didn't even bother to read the discussion, let alone address the actual arguments therein.

Edited by Czereda (02/17/19 04:34 PM)
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#118646 - 02/17/19 11:35 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Czereda]
Tom Satanic Offline
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MindFck nailed it.

@SO: The only one whining here is you, it's in your words, all over this forum. That goes for all the others who have decided to call it "whining". The only ones wining about butthurt are the women, and make no mistake, they have little to no choice, since in this debate they are pretty much wiped clean of any realistic standing. I just wanted to troll here with the claims to see how far these women would get. Stats are out there but these women don't want to prove me wrong because they can't. Their responses and those of the cucks like SO, have proven why most logical guys are avoiding relationships altogether.

To Dan's point about men needing to be men, sure I agree in some context. My interpretation of said point, is this, I think that it is human nature to corrupt, dominate, and tyrannize. Heads must roll at some point, but until there is a full scale rebellion, the only other option is to avoid the trap.

Unless you can find another alternative, say, blackmail your partner into never leaving you, she's got the ball of complete corruption to screw your life 110+%. Most women don't stay in love with their partners, most marriages are being ended by women for no fault, so they can collect welfare and palimony. There's nothing else to it, and I won't white knight for women, ever. If any guy has an ounce of a realistic mind, he knows that limited to no contact with women, supplemented with porno movies and video games al la Bill Hicks weekend out, is not such a bad idea after all, considering the alternatives, homelessness, no money to yourself ever, most if not all of your wages garnished to a women who never loved you, kids you'll never see, etc.

Women know they can't fool men anymore, that the information is out in the open, and that men see it, and won't be fooled again, come new generations. MGTOW is here to stay. Even without a full scale rebellion, MGTOW is effective enough, as it strikes complete fear into the hearts of all who up to this point, have taken full advantage of male ignorance. Apathy, compulsion, and ignorance, are what THEY have relied on, and all they have had to go by. The only thing to do until these laws are shut down, is to leave. In droves.

You got no players, you got no game.


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#118648 - 02/17/19 11:53 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Tom Satanic]
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As long as you keep whining the game is up.

And here you are writing piles upon piles of butthurt crap about how much you don't care about women, when it's obvious you do care enough to complain.

The opposite of commitment is indifference.

Wake me up when you really decide to quit.
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#118649 - 02/18/19 12:39 AM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Czereda]
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/\ That is it right there.

The key thing I find with myself is an inability to recognize enamored for what it is. "Pent up" as one might say.

It's more frustration and sour grapes than anything else. Bitterness at the game you cannot play for whatever scared reason.

The fine line between an internet incel and The UCSB shooter, who could be a prophet for the raw sexual frustration movement.

But seriously, them pussy moths can get pretty aggressive here. Booze or pot helps.
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#118650 - 02/18/19 03:38 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Tom Satanic]
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I think you're ignoring a huge chunk of American history where society and its laws were more biased towards men. So the shift you see is when the state gets involved to be the equalizer. Such as child support, obtaining divorce, blame for domestic disputes, etc.

This is an ebb and flow, two steps forward and 3 back. If particular men are having a hard time navigating a changing territory, then I suggest drawing up a new map.

The system will always be stacked against you, no matter the sex. This is why, in spite of the rule of law at the time, you see trail blazers bucking the system. Even in points of time in history when it could literally get you killed.

See beyond the established territory and plot a different course.

Some call it the LEFT COURSE.
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#118651 - 02/18/19 04:00 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: SIN3]
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Left we sway, left we portray.
Then there's a way, to be swept astray.
Beyond the established territory is a course yet to be plotted for by both sexes to be sublime. Sex-wars are archaic among any sphere now.

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#118656 - 02/18/19 09:50 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: aeon6]
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Google trends web search for MGTOW for the past 12 months :

https://screenshots.firefox.com/DepKhhWvjDGWCBa2/trends.google.com

By Country: Canada, Australia and the US making up the top 3, making this data extremely telling to just how much of an effect its having in these prominent areas:

https://screenshots.firefox.com/GU9dIVIOhGGXTYyx/trends.google.com

Even PORN cannot compete with MGTOW. Perhaps it is time women consider the consequences of their overt exploitation:

https://screenshots.firefox.com/00XsweFQ3LRlmL3G/trends.google.com

This does not even include YouTube where porn is not searched and mgtow often is :

https://screenshots.firefox.com/9eGOjtIK5MQWtRQb/trends.google.com

All of this even though MGTOW is heavily attacked with demonetization, shadow banning and de-platforming on YouTube.

It's not like men are happy about having to resort to not getting into serious long term relationships with women due to context. Men who understand what is going on are simply making the only rational decision there is to be made. Women have become ideologically possessed by this toxic society. Yes, men have also become feminized. Society needs to learn how to give women their fair share of criticism. Women have been given tools with social media and dating apps to construct a sexual marketplace that gives them near unlimited options worldwide. An 8/10+ now has the same amount of options as a B list celebrity prior to the social media age. All of these things and more are contributing to modern women's narcissism.

Ignoring the problems to this reality combined with knowledge of how women work is a losing strategy. One can argue that complaining about this reality is only what an incel would do, but I argue that it is a valid issue that risks destroying the sexual marketplace system. This system combined with a toxic society, is encouraging women to be their worst versions of themselves. MGTOW is the only reasonable decision high quality men can make in a society filled with ideology induced collective narcissism most women have seemed to be plagued with. Society does not allow men to fight this battle in any other way than to quit the game. It is men's best option to communicate to women that we are not taking their bullshit anymore. Even when men quit the game, MGTOW is still attacked by the media and attacked by social media corporations.

I hope this snowballing movement will help make women understand they cant just flauntingly exploit men and disrespect them anymore if they want a long term partner. It was certainly not always like this. Even a decade ago I believe the dating world was far healthier. I hope more women begin to realize they need to respect men and help work with men towards a shifted ideology away from the toxicity of feminism/narcissism and to give common law/marriage laws a much needed update.
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#118663 - 02/19/19 08:49 AM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: MindFck]
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The problem with your arguments and those of TS is that you both commit the fallacy of generalization. You take some examples of toxic relationships and you treat them as a valid representation of all male-female relationships. As was stated before, not all men are unable to handle women.
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#118665 - 02/19/19 10:03 AM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Czereda]
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In my personal experience men who can't handle women are men who can't handle themselves, and are not "in the know" with what Satanism is about, which is being a sacred guardian of the earth, for which females are the vessel. If you're not in line with that purpose, either accidentally or in actuality, then you will get hurt and be grounded under the wheel of Satanic progress and left to social engineering sites to lick your wounds like MGTOW.
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#118678 - 02/19/19 05:50 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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General reply. It could also be, that men deciding to not invest in contractual relationships like marriages and having children as a way to pave new terrain. As stated previously, the State intervenes in the legal aspects, and in some cases even the social. Men that haven't experienced past carnations of society have no basis to contrast and compare changes in favor of women. This is why you see so much dissent.

Imagine spending your life building a business, being required to hire women, then pay them for time not at work for family emergencies, maternity leave, etc. Many states have even passed laws to make it really difficult for employers to terminate employees, especially if they cry gender discrimination. Socially, the SJW's can ruin your brand, orchestrate boycott, get the media rags to write tons of reports that damage your ability to generate revenue. Law suits are costly, so maybe you go belly up and throw in the towel. Maybe the territory swallows you like quicksand.

Devil's advocate side of the coin.
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#118680 - 02/19/19 08:25 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Tom Satanic]
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 Originally Posted By: Tom Satanic
Unless you can find another alternative, say, blackmail your partner into never leaving you, she's got the ball of complete corruption to screw your life 110+%. Most women don't stay in love with their partners, most marriages are being ended by women for no fault, so they can collect welfare and palimony.

There are plenty of alternatives to alimony / child support.

As for child support? Get a vasectomy.

I mean, if it were me, and my "alternative" was never getting laid again and resigning to rubbing one out for the rest of my life, I'd definitely opt for the snip-snip.

I've had plenty of sharp surgical implements rooting around my reproductive organs. (Did you know they don't use anesthetic when inserting an IUD? Cause they don't. They give you a stick to bite down on.) I don't recommend anything I wouldn't do. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

But hey, it's your junk. You do you. Makes no difference to me.

As for alimony, you have plenty of options.
(1) Don't get married. It's possible to get pussy without getting married. Trust me, I've done it.
(2) If you do get married...
--(a) Get a prenup. Or...
--(b) Get married in a jurisdiction that doesn't have alimony.

...you know those exist, right? You have done some research into what the actual possibilities are, right? You didn't just go into your "analysis" with a defeatist bias and regurgitate the worst-case scenario laundry list of doom and gloom copypasta from the manosphere?

Alimony is a concept unique to English common law, based on the theory that a wife is her husband's ward. In continental Europe, such a concept didn't exist. Marriage was treated like a business partnership, and its dissolution was like dividing up the partnership. The concept of one spouse owing a continuing duty of support to the other is considered straight-up strange in most of European civilization.

I live in Texas, a border state and former Spanish colony. Our marriage laws are based on Spanish civil law instead of English common law. There is no such thing as alimony in Texas.

But you're not really interested in alternatives, are you? You say there are no alternatives, but what you mean is, "I'm quitting to cover up the fact that I've failed."
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#118682 - 02/19/19 09:44 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Perhaps the person you're communicating with might agree with you, but decided meta and astral communications have no value, because he or she may have just come to view certain messages from people as a way to renew a toxic vampiric relationship because they know how to get in touch with them if they were serious.


Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

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#118683 - 02/19/19 10:07 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: samowens84]
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 Originally Posted By: samowens84
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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#118862 - 03/07/19 11:09 PM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: XiaoGui17]
Tom Satanic Offline
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@XG: Subject: family courts: I'm sure it has nothing to do with money, just what's best for the kids. That's why they give children to foster parents who are so fat they can't even wipe their own ass, and try to have them tried and convicted as many times as possible at the earliest ages, because you know, caring 'n stuff.

I was going to quote a bunch but I don't feel like doing that anymore.

In fact, as has happened lately, I have come to many conclusions about life, my place in it, probably for the better, and find it less and less appealing to share my opinions on the internet with people who are obviously deranged. I think some people like S3 and DD know their shit, and some others.

Carry on.


Edited by Tom Satanic (03/07/19 11:13 PM)

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#119070 - 04/13/19 03:51 AM Re: Satan The MGTOW [Re: Tom Satanic]
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It is said that growth is long, but one day you will suddenly understand that growth is sometimes the moment. Suddenly discovering the beauty around me is also a matter of moments.
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