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#113217 - 06/15/17 02:48 AM Re: Due process [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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Know a case for a friend of mine in Mississippi where my friends niece was shot by her boyfriend. This boy is well connected and my friend has been told it is likely he will get away from it because of the family's wealth and political connections.

Wealthy people can commit vehicular manslaughter and provide a defense called "afluenza", essentially that being rich means youre not responsible for your actions and when a well to do white guy can rape an unconscious woman behind a dumpster and only get three months in prison because he looks like the kid next door. Justice does not exist. "Strong will inherit the earth and the weak shall inherit the yoke." Funny that the legal system seems to provide the literal truth of this statement.


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#113221 - 06/15/17 11:22 AM Re: Due process [Re: samowens84]
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You don't even have to be wealthy, just well connected. It's not what you've done, it's who you know. Relationships between judges, lawyers and cops can often work in your favor; if you find yourself charged with a crime. Anyone with these connections know how thins actually work, vs. how they should ideally work.
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#113222 - 06/15/17 12:10 PM Re: Due process [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
You don't even have to be wealthy, just well connected. It's not what you've done, it's who you know. Relationships between judges, lawyers and cops can often work in your favor; if you find yourself charged with a crime. Anyone with these connections know how thins actually work, vs. how they should ideally work.


Absolutely, and thats true anywhere. Ive gotten around the medical industry because of some of my relationships. Same thing with school. Had a professor tell me that I can get away with murder because people like me! Lol I guess in some instances that could be a literal truth. And more to your point, I'm not particularly wealthy.

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#113225 - 06/15/17 02:10 PM Re: Due process [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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 Originally Posted By: Creatura Noptii
Justice system:

Whoever pays the most.

Fuck You.

Adjourned.

You'd be surprised.

I've dealt with a lot of high-grossing, hot-shot lawyers. And often, they're incompetent goobers. They try to intimidate based on their status, but a lot of the time they're shooting from the hip and haven't the foggiest what they're actually doing. It's more a game of chicken than a battle of wits. Just because you can shell out several grand for a lawyer doesn't mean he's worth it.

I've also worked cases with really brilliant attorneys whose client was a lost cause and just couldn't be saved no matter how sharp their lawyer was, and the absolute best their lawyer could do for them was damage control.

Money helps, and lawyers help, to be sure. But it's no guarantee. It's like cancer. Even if you can afford the best treatment money can buy, sometimes you're still fucked.
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#113227 - 06/15/17 02:51 PM Re: Due process [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: V
Just because you can shell out several grand for a lawyer doesn't mean he's worth it.


Also, depending on the charge - you don't even need a lawyer at all. I've seen dolts spend upwards of $1500 a pop for a simple traffic violation. A sheep with backup is still a fucking sheep.
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#121496 - 02/05/20 02:37 AM Re: Due process [Re: SIN3]
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Im lucky in that my run ins with the law are few and far between.As a rule i try to make a point to avoid any and all police entanglements.A lot of it comes down to who your fucking with and whos going to fuck with you. Michael Aquino and Nick Bougas can both attest to that.I myself as a teenaged punk rocker had the same cop harrass me it seemed a few times a month..demanding to know where my drugs were,who else had them and how i was a hellbound homo for having a faggots haircut and threats to take me to jail..shit,i was going to 7-11 to play star castle. Later on when i was run in on weapons charges that were legit,i discovered the CA legal system was quite flawed
.everyone it seemed could plead down to lesser charges for im guessing the hefty fine amounts.i did to deal away 2 felonys but while i was a fuck up,i wasnt that fucked up. Plenty of people got away with things by just taking lesser charges.But if some yo yo DA or judge gets a stiff for you youve had it..brother blue has some long tentcles. To sum it up,I try to live outside of the legal system as much as possible,they can go play their game on another field
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#121504 - 02/05/20 08:37 PM Re: Due process [Re: Monger]
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 Originally Posted By: Monger
As a rule i try to make a point to avoid any and all police entanglements.
Wise approach.

 Originally Posted By: Monger
everyone it seemed could plead down to lesser charges for im guessing the hefty fine amounts.i did to deal away 2 felonys but while i was a fuck up,i wasnt that fucked up. Plenty of people got away with things by just taking lesser charges.
It's not what the state has to gain (fines), but rather the hassle they're trying to avoid.

Often, there's a witness that really doesn't want to testify. Rapists often walk for no other reason than the victim doesn't want to have to endure being grilled on the witness stand. Without the victim's testimony, it's practically impossible to prove lack of consent.

Before meeting me, my husband requested a jury trial over a parking ticket. (He technically had that right.) The prosecutor tried hard to talk him out of it. She pointed out he had no idea how to navigate a jury trial. He said he'd figure it out.

She dropped the charges and let him walk. She'd be damned if she was going to go to all that hassle just to spite his stubborn ass over some petty shit.

I have to admire his ingenuity, sometimes.

 Originally Posted By: SIN3
In no uncertain terms did I tell them that the CA's tactics were to keep asking the same question in a number of ways until I gave a specific answer. One he would not get because it didn't happen, that he was looking for the Win, not the facts.
P.P.S. Another way to handle someone who's doing this is just to be a broken record.

If he asks, "Did X happen?" and you say, "No," and he starts in with some iterative shit...

In a house?
With a mouse?
In a box?
With a fox?
In the rain?
On a train?
With a goat?
On a boat?
In a car?
In a tree?
In the dark?

...you can just keep saying, "No." Any opposing counsel worth their salt will eventually object that the question has been asked and answered. This has the benefit of making him look like a fool, running in a hamster wheel and getting chastised to knock it off.
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