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#114519 - 09/28/17 03:52 PM Getting what you want with what you've got...
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...while also being realistic about what you can get.

It sounds pessimistic, but after some events in the past few months I realized what I really want in life within the scope of what I can handle. Problem is, I'm not sure how to get it.

Attracting people is simply something I'm not good at. It's hard for me to communicate effectively, and I rarely make people laugh. I do have a lot of knowledge about music, art, literature and cinema, but all I get from others is that I'm "interesting", which doesn't seem to be enough to make them want to hang around with me.

If the only kind of person who gets to attract people are the funny ones, what can anybody without a good sense of humour do to be more likable?
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#114522 - 09/28/17 06:03 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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 Originally Posted By: Sargeist
If the only kind of person who gets to attract people are the funny ones, what can anybody without a good sense of humour do to be more likable?


Stop whining, for example. That could help.

This forum really should have Dear Abby section.
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#114525 - 09/28/17 08:37 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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You seem to communicate well here. Maybe your problem is not with not being able to attract people, but the kind of people you are trying to attract.

Although a sense of humor is useful to put people at ease and even get them to enjoy being around you, another thing that is important is to listen to them and take interest in them. Or at least pretend to.
People LOVE to talk about themselves and get subconsciously orgasmic when a person seem to take genuine interest in what they have to say.

If you're a good listener, and go as far as asking questions about them, and what they are saying, there's a good chance they will like you. I mean like you a LOT (Possibly to the point of being annoying).

There's a saying that goes something like, "Most people are not having discussions, but merely waiting for their turn to speak." If you can give them that turn then they will want you around. Question is, why do you want to be around them? Chances are if they are not interested in what you have to say, you probably are not really interested in what they have to say either. On the other hand, if you are truly interested in them, then I don't see why they wouldn't want to be around you, unless you do some very weird shit that makes them uncomfortable.

There are all sorts of good books on "attraction," and how to attract the opposite sex. Some of the advice is corny and nutty, but many of it works; not only for the opposite sex, but people in general. However, if you do use that kind of material, you have to realize that you will be putting on an act that is hard to keep up long term. So again, one would have to ask, what your purpose is in trying to attract people who are not like you in the first place.

If you want to use them through some kind of lesser magic, then that is certainly possible to learn to do. However, if you want them to really like you, for who you are as an individual, then your best bet is to do whatever you can to find people who are on the same "wave length," as you are, which is much harder, but much more worth while.
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#114526 - 09/28/17 09:38 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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Gitchu some confidence, or die alone.

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#114528 - 09/28/17 09:44 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Even after about a decade, I still get a kick out of how Dan can get a point across in one sentence, that usually takes me several paragraphs to do.
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#114539 - 09/29/17 11:33 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Asmedious]
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Hell, a lot of confident people die alone.

@ Sargeist: You seem to have a need for social validation. Try removing yourself from that, even if, especially if it is something you desire.

Who knows, maybe you'll find yourself more attractive in doing so.
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#114540 - 09/29/17 12:20 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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 Originally Posted By: Sargeist
If the only kind of person who gets to attract people are the funny ones, what can anybody without a good sense of humour do to be more likable?


What Dan said, plus:

You don't need to be funny. Funny people are entertaining jesters. You don't need to be funny to attract friends.

Read "The Like Switch" [amazon, by Jack Schafer]. It's written by an ex-FBI agent. During his time as an agent he was sent on missions to make friends with foreign diplomats, usually in countries that are rivals or enemies of America. The book talks about how he turned those people into friends, and how he persuaded and influenced them to turn against their own country to provide America with information. That's power... fuck being funny.


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#114541 - 09/29/17 01:01 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Bartho LeMule]
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 Originally Posted By: Bartho LeMule

Read "The Like Switch" [amazon, by Jack Schafer]. It's written by an ex-FBI agent. During his time as an agent he was sent on missions to make friends with foreign diplomats, usually in countries that are rivals or enemies of America. The book talks about how he turned those people into friends, and how he persuaded and influenced them to turn against their own country to provide America with information. That's power... fuck being funny.


Right? And this is how the saying goes: May God save me from my friends. I can take care of my enemies.

So... fuck making friends. Make enemies instead.
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#114545 - 09/29/17 02:16 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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 Originally Posted By: SG
what can anybody without a good sense of humour do to be more likable?


Man, if you really can't figure this out...

Removed of friends, lovers, and enemies, without other people, what are you?

That's a hard cold mirror that most people avoid looking into.


Edited by Creatura Noptii (09/29/17 02:17 PM)
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#114547 - 09/29/17 04:05 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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 Originally Posted By: Sargeist

Attracting people is simply something I'm not good at. It's hard for me to communicate effectively...


You don't have to communicate effectively:

[Begin Quote]

Dale Carnegie said it best – “You can make more friends in two months by becoming truly interested in other people than you can in two years by trying to get other people interested in you.”

[End Quote]

The problem with most Satanists is that they are autistic. Autism coming from the word "auto," meaning self. Most Satanists see only themselves, are only interested in themselves, going so far as to deify their own egos. It's rare that Mundane Satanists are ever genuinely interested in others.

I've been reading around this forum for many years. I've rarely if ever seen any Satanist here start a topic where they are genuinely interested in their fellow Satanists. Aside from the usual threads about what your favorite satanic color and music are. It's all about their own Self: their own views, opinions, beliefs. And everything turns into a debate and dick contest.

Simply be sincerely interested in others, and ask questions, and listen more than you talk. It seems like a simple and stupid way to make friends. But I've used this technique since junior high and it works. I've used it these past 10 years to spread ONA and make ONA initiates.



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#114548 - 09/29/17 04:42 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Bartho LeMule]
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This is true, I'm rarely interested in others. I chalk it up to most people being flatly uninteresting, here, there and everywhere.

Yet, more often than not, people tend to find ME interesting...

...to the point of annoyance. I wish these kids would just get the hell off my lawn.
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#114550 - 09/29/17 05:31 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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I have nothing to add that other people haven't already said, except that perhaps you don't really understand when people do or do not "want to hang around you" or for what reasons. I don't know how you interact with people generally, but it might do you some good to approach people and direct the course of conversations yourself rather than passively wait to be liked enough to be approached. Assuming you aren't just outright rejected whenever you open your mouth to speak.

Perhaps you'd take less of an issue with this, but if you desire any depth at all I recommend against trying to affect traits or behaviors which you are not actually inclined to. This doesn't mean you can't change to become more appealing if necessary, but the transformation should be fundamental and complete.

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#114558 - 09/30/17 02:17 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Bartho LeMule]
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 Originally Posted By: Bartho LeMule
The problem with most Satanists is that they are autistic. Autism coming from the word "auto," meaning self. Most Satanists see only themselves, are only interested in themselves...

Simply be sincerely interested in others, and ask questions, and listen more than you talk. It seems like a simple and stupid way to make friends. But I've used this technique since junior high and it works. I've used it these past 10 years to spread ONA and make ONA initiates.


Well... now at last I know why most of the ONA "initiates" are autistic. Thanks for raising the curtain a little bit.

I once had an old acquaintance who prattled on and on about herself and I pretended to listen because I didn't want to hurt her feelings. I didn't actually listen, just kept nodding my head. She's dead now, God bless her soul.
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#114560 - 09/30/17 04:26 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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I've heard of "The Like Switch" before so I'll get acquainted with it.

I don't have issues communicating through digital media, yet in the physical world is where I have issues. I'm quite aggressive in the way I communicate, yet as the saying goes "you catch more bees with honey than vinegar". Being negative and moody all the time also doesn't help, and ruining my social life undermines my confidence which at the same time affects the way I communicate and I end up in a vicious circle. Yet I don't consider myself a waste of flesh.


Edited by Sargeist (09/30/17 04:27 PM)
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#114562 - 09/30/17 09:07 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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SARGEIST:

It sounds pessimistic, but after some events in the past few months I realized what I really want in life within the scope of what I can handle. Problem is, I'm not sure how to get it.

Attracting people is simply something I'm not good at. It's hard for me to communicate effectively, and I rarely make people laugh. I do have a lot of knowledge about music, art, literature and cinema, but all I get from others is that I'm "interesting", which doesn't seem to be enough to make them want to hang around with me.

If the only kind of person who gets to attract people are the funny ones, what can anybody without a good sense of humour do to be more likable?

You may need to be more discerning and more discriminating. You can’t be friends with everyone, so who exactly do you want to be friends with? Are you interested in popular people? Are you interested in good looking people? Are you interested in intelligent people, or all of the above?

Is there a certain group of friends which you wish to join? If so, what do these people value highly and what do you currently offer in the way of value to them? How can you tailor your approach so you’re perceived as offering something of value to them? Can you tailor your approach enough or is it just beyond you?

Is good grooming important to your target audience? Is the capacity to converse brilliantly important? Is strength important? Are looks important? Is success important? Are certain types of experience important?

You’re going to have to do those things and succeed at doing those things, which your target group values and considers important. If you cannot succeed and you cannot fake it, then maybe look in other directions.

Stop watching so many films and reading so many books, at least for a while - being the intelligent loner is frustrating and won’t deliver the goods. Assume that you are in fact thoroughly boring and not interesting at all.

Enter into serious social training. Think seriously about your grooming and presentation. Engage in practices which will improve your appearance, such as strength training and conditioning. Forget yourself – constant self-analysis is your worst enemy. Do everything you do with love and incredible optimism and complete focus. Work hard and modestly to achieve success in everything you do. Don’t stare at people. Speak clearly to other people.

You need to train.

The above may sound like bullshit, but it isn’t intended to be.

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#114564 - 09/30/17 10:05 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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You can listen to everybody else and show them your good attention while completely ignoring yourself. The only reason I respond is because more often than not, a longing for social validation is a sign of personal doubt. Consider what you like outside the realm of people.

What others find attractive in you wont be your acceptance of them, but your strength. I find people qick to accept and like me are superficial.


Edited by Creatura Noptii (09/30/17 10:08 PM)
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#114567 - 10/01/17 10:01 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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 Originally Posted By: Sargeist
Attracting people is simply something I'm not good at. It's hard for me to communicate effectively, and I rarely make people laugh. I do have a lot of knowledge about music, art, literature and cinema, but all I get from others is that I'm "interesting", which doesn't seem to be enough to make them want to hang around with me.


My advice is to practice, practice, practice! Just talk to everyone... Everyone! Everywhere you go. And in doing so you get to understand humans better, as well as understanding yourself better. People are our mirrors - if you never engage with them you don't fully see yourself.
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#114569 - 10/01/17 06:35 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: ShadowLover]
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If you really do have a hard time talking to people, yes, the only way to is through, but ultiamately you might just wind up annoying people

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#114570 - 10/01/17 07:25 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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Who the fuck cares about you being likeable? If they want you to be an asshole, and if you want some, if you really do want some, being an asshole is what you're talking about.
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#114574 - 10/02/17 02:21 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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Confidence is one thing.
Not being deadbeat is another one.

People generally set a goal, or have a craving, and set their ways to attain it through a well-trodden path. Rarily is an alternative road considered which is more in tune with your own capabilities.

There is always a tendacy to overestimate oneself and wear oneself down into psychological and physical discomfort just for meager attainment. There are alternative more long-winded roads which have so much more to offer.

Consider that for a change.
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#114577 - 10/02/17 06:32 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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 Originally Posted By: Creatura Noptii
If you really do have a hard time talking to people, yes, the only way to is through, but ultiamately you might just wind up annoying people


You might annoy people but who cares... They say we would worry less about what people thought about us if we realised how little they actually think about us - if you annoy somebody at lunch they will likely be over it by afternoon tea and then never think of you again.

When you practice it is for YOUR benefit... That is the point! If you annoy somebody then you may learn what is annoying. Hell, you might annoy a hundred people, before you master not being annoying. In the end, those you have annoyed will likely have forgotten about you, but in the meantime, YOU have acquired some serious social skill!

Practice, practice, practice! If you want to polish your social skills then practice! Talk to everybody, everywhere, all of the time! Don't be so afraid of failure because failing is still experience. Practice and rack up those experience points!


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#114579 - 10/02/17 11:24 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Bartho LeMule]
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 Originally Posted By: Bartho LeMule


Simply be sincerely interested in others, and ask questions, and listen more than you talk. It seems like a simple and stupid way to make friends. But I've used this technique since junior high and it works. I've used it these past 10 years to spread ONA and make ONA initiates.



I agree. Asking another person questions about things they care about works very well, overall. I'm not sure you have to be sincere as long as they think you are sincerely interested, but faking it makes engaging them much more difficult and painful.

I would also include making, and keeping, eye contact. It can be uncomfortable to learn at first, but strong eye contact can be very powerful.
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#114580 - 10/02/17 01:01 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: ShadowLover]
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Talk to everybody, everywhere, all of the time!


So fake it till you make it? You realize that your advice amounts to projecting a false persona? You can try to fool yourself and everyone else but your own nature will always sabotage your efforts and other people will soon figure out that you're trying too hard. There is nothing more annoying than a needy person desperate for attention. Nothing will infuriate people more than a guy who desperately wants to get laid.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you should not try to improve. But the question is what can be improved. You can't change your nature but you can change your habits. With some amount of self-discipline and self-analysis certain harmful habitual behaviors can be modified to some extent. To some extent, mind. A fish will never be able to climb a tree but it can turn its own nature to its advantage.

Some people find shyness attractive. If it doesn't entail a pathological selfloathing, shy people can turn out to be quite charming. Love thyself sounds like a banal platitude but it's a key to be likeable. How can other people accept you if you can't accept yourself and always try to be someone you are not?

You see, I've lost my family recently and I only have a handful of friends. When I come back from work to an empty home, I'm not freaking out and bother my neighbors to entertain me because I can't spend a few hours alone. There is something really wrong with you if you don't enjoy your own company. Most of the time we spend among other people, like at work, among the family, or (like in the case of the OP) at school, but those hours spent alone are a kind of a litmus test of who you are. If the silence wakes up the chattering monster in your head, then you have an answer to the question why you can't find your own place among other people.


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#114581 - 10/02/17 01:09 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: entropicmomentum]
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The problem with most Satanists is that they are autistic. Autism coming from the word "auto," meaning self. Most Satanists see only themselves, are only interested in themselves, going so far as to deify their own egos. It's rare that Mundane Satanists are ever genuinely interested in others.

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Simply be sincerely interested in others, and ask questions, and listen more than you talk. It seems like a simple and stupid way to make friends. But I've used this technique since junior high and it works. I've used it these past 10 years to spread ONA and make ONA initiates.


Well that's a tell. So ONA initiates are like woman on Christian Mingle? As in, "Wow, that is so interesting?"

Don't most guys that use that move only care about the gratification of their own sex drive? 

And I wouldn't go so far as to say "empathy" removes one from "mundanity" either... it just puts it on a cross.
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#114600 - 10/03/17 08:30 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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 Originally Posted By: Czereda
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Talk to everybody, everywhere, all of the time!
So fake it till you make it? You realize that your advice amounts to projecting a false persona?


I think of it more like going into a change room and trying on different outfits until you learn what works for you. You have to remember that a lot of people who aren't socially confident either don't know themselves, or know themselves but are not yet comfortable with or secure in their truth. Trying on different persona's can help you work out who you are and who you are not. Plus, as I mentioned above, people are our mirrors - if you never engage with them you don't fully see yourself. It is good to engage with other people.

 Originally Posted By: Czereda
There is nothing more annoying than a needy person desperate for attention. Nothing will infuriate people more than a guy who desperately wants to get laid.


True... So if we weigh up whether these people should practice or not... They can, not, practice and remain silently needy. Or they can practice, perhaps make a fool of themselves, and maybe make forward progress. The desperado you mention, might come off all sorts of wrong, but will hopefully gain knowledge with each of his humiliating knock-backs, and eventually, get something half right and get laid. Theory will only get you so far... Eventually you have to get out there an DO! Because it is in doing that we fine tune and polish the theory.

 Originally Posted By: Czereda
There is something really wrong with you if you don't enjoy your own company.


I'm actually an introvert with a natural inclination to become somewhat reclusive. I love my own company! I fight hard not to get sucked down the spiral of isolation and become some reclusive weirdo. I joke that I want to sell millions of books so I can finally get to embrace my natural inclination to live as an "eccentric recluse!" but it's really not a joke...

I believe humans are social creatures and that it is healthy for us to socialise and have good relationships. I said I work hard not to become a recluse... which is true. I love being at home, but when I leave my lair and go out into the world I don't shut up! I talk to everybody. I actually love people! I find them fun and fascinating.

I'm a happy and peaceful person and I like a happy and peaceful environment. But the outside world isn't always like that. So if I can walk into a place and light up a room with a smile and a hello, than I am instantly manipulating the world I have to venture into, into being how I want it. Most people are stressed and respond favourably when you inject them with a bit of sunshine, and when they allow this, it benefits us both - they get happy, and I don't have to be surrounded by misery.

I'm still shy in some ways sometimes - okay not often... maybe only when I'm falling in love. Lol! But I was tragically shy and awkward when I was young - and if you looked below my surface I was a bit weird. I would miss out on opportunities because of my shyness and put myself in dangerous situations because of my placidness. Then I consciously started pushing myself out of my comfort zone and made myself do things. I'm kind of tenacious in ways. I practised and practised and practised, and now socialising is very easy for me. However, I still challenge myself and push myself out of my comfort zone, simply because it can be both enlightening and fun!
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#114607 - 10/04/17 12:36 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: ShadowLover]
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@ Czereda: I've lived alone for the most part, I don't like having roomates if I don't have to. I also know that losing family can be a hardship and that being alone afterword can be difficult to say the least.

Tell you what though, the chatter-monster comes with ampule doses of caffeine and lack of sleep. When you have insomnia, everthing blends together and you don't get any escape from your life, it kind of all comes together into one giant mesh of tedious repetition, trying to change it is hard because you're exhausted all the time. It also drains on the mind, so my advice to anyone going through those kind of problems is to get sleep, at night. Sounds ironic coming from me, but...

take it from one who knows.


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#114612 - 10/04/17 05:07 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: ShadowLover]
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@Creatura Noptii

I drink a lot of coffee because my work includes also night shifts but I have never suffered from insomnia. Even if I have to work at night, I can sleep during the day. It might sound strange but I don't feel lonely. I don't even experience grief. Perhaps, it's because of my work. The people I take care of became a sort of a substitute family for me so I can understand the need for the relationship with another human being. It can turn out to be a problem when craving for other people's company serves as a form of escapism; when you talk to others only to silence your own annoying thoughts, whatever they are. I mean a healthy person isn't freaking out or even feeling too much discomfort when he or she is alone for some time. (Some time, I mean, not living as a hermit) The fear of loneliness is usually rooted in some deeper emotional issues.

@ShadowLover

Sure, you can keep trying and practicing all your life but why not just be yourself? From how your post reads, you didn't change your persona as much as simply let go of your own inhibitions, which stifled your true self. The OP, on the other hand, is desperately trying to be someone else, someone who is popular and funny.
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#114614 - 10/04/17 08:42 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
Gitchu some confidence, or die alone.

Serious advice.

Addendum: Gitchu a goddamn hooker, if that helps you overcome your psychological block.

Seriously, you've written more than one thread on this. In the time it's taken you to bitch about how you can't get laid and how raping someone would be easier and so on, you could have shelled out a wad of cash and knocked the pussy down off the pedestal you've put it on.

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#114640 - 10/06/17 12:04 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: XiaoGui17]
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@Czereda: Exclusive night shift for a few years and your mind gets wracked. Alternating isn't the same thing. I don't have many connections anymore, no friends, no lover, and yet I'm OK with myself for the most part. I think developing personal recognition is the most important thing in developing self-trust. With that, you know what you are, what you're able to do. It goes with the saying, wherever you go there you are.

@Sargeist: Yes, you could hire a prostitute, get some out of your system, but that's a lot of cash and your only going to have it one night. My advice is to find things you enjoy doing alone, and pursue that as much as possible. Concern with other people will only lead you to a dead end.

Honest, I have no grand master wisdom for people like you. Your lack of confidence with others has something to do with you not liking yourself, and that's where it starts and ends. People like you if you like yourself. My advice, make yourself laugh more than anyone.

Evil in this world occurrs when people don't leave each other alone. Personal insecurity is the driving force of that particular shit-storm.


Edited by Creatura Noptii (10/06/17 12:14 PM)
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#114648 - 10/07/17 08:19 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Creatura Noptii]
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 Originally Posted By: Creatura Noptii
@Sargeist: Yes, you could hire a prostitute, get some out of your system, but that's a lot of cash and your only going to have it one night.

If it shakes loose the idea he's got lodged in his head that pussy is this magical mythical creature that is beyond his reach, it should be the beginning of more than "one night."

 Originally Posted By: Creatura Noptii
My advice is to find things you enjoy doing alone, and pursue that as much as possible. Concern with other people will only lead you to a dead end.

That's good advice for everyone, from incel to slut.
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#114658 - 10/09/17 06:11 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Too much of something is always bad, doesn't matter how good it seems at the beginning. Having alone time is great, as I don't like to be around people for long periods of time. Unfortunately, this drove me to become a sort of hermit, and my social skills suffered for that. I know better now, and an everlasting partner is not my top priority. One night stands or the costlier version of them are good choices now.

Some people need to break completely first before they can see (their) reality for what it is.


Edited by Sargeist (10/09/17 06:12 PM)
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#114663 - 10/09/17 11:22 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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 Quote:
Too much of something is always bad


How much money is bad? Like, what's the cutoff point?
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#114666 - 10/10/17 11:07 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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Loc: Virginia
 Originally Posted By: Sargeist


Some people need to break completely first before they can see (their) reality for what it is.


At what point do you realize that it's not a broken world and all of this internal strife is self-induced? You've been posting here a while, have you learned anything from our input?
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#114674 - 10/10/17 02:10 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: Sargeist
Some people need to break completely first before they can see (their) reality for what it is.


Break completely? Well shit, if you follow that way, how will you manage to put yourself together again? That would be the end of it. Sublimation and destruction are two different things. You have no clue what you're talking about.

 Originally Posted By: SIN3
You've been posting here a while, have you learned anything from our input?


Is this a school now? If your life experience hasn't taught you anything, then how can you learn from the input of strangers on some forum? It will be a course in Chinese, at best. Sounds like a silly statement to me.


Edited by Czereda (10/10/17 02:10 PM)
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#114676 - 10/10/17 02:41 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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I just talk about random shit to my friends, the shit that we find it interesting somehow. But I wouldn't talk about it outside the circle lol. It's not about tryna be a wannabe clown. I find people who are flat out honest funny most of the time even when they don't intend us dying on the floor with laughter.
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#114678 - 10/10/17 05:14 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
have you learned anything from our input?


That I should get what I want with the tools at my disposal. Also, to avoid self-delusion and swim with the current.
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#114679 - 10/10/17 05:53 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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 Originally Posted By: Czereda
Is this a school now?
Drink Bleach Czereda. That's not the fucking point now is it? We are a human resource to each other, especially for perspective outside of his country. Don't you learn things from Americans? Are we taking you to school?

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#114681 - 10/10/17 06:22 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: SIN3]
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And what does the topic at hand have to do with someone's nationality? Are you even for real?

Anyway, judging from his response, you managed to teach Sargi a lot. LMAO.
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#114682 - 10/10/17 07:09 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sabrina27]
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You were supposed to kill yourself. I'm disappointed, Sabrina.
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#114686 - 10/10/17 09:26 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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 Originally Posted By: Czereda
Is this a school now? If your life experience hasn't taught you anything, then how can you learn from the input of strangers on some forum?

Well, he did ask.
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#114693 - 10/11/17 11:16 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: XiaoGui17]
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It could be a comprehension issue or something else. Latter rather than the former, imo. Crazy Cat Lady is in crisis.
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#114698 - 10/11/17 01:49 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: SIN3]
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Crazy Cat Lady is in crisis.


Excuse me?

Yes, I've been through some difficult time recently (which is rather natural, considering) but in crisis I'm not. Thanks for your concern though. I didn't share my personal story here to whine but because it is relevant to the discussion.

I wonder, however, what sort of crisis YOU are in since you're so grouchy. Menopause, perhaps. ;\)


Edited by Czereda (10/11/17 01:53 PM)
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#114702 - 10/11/17 05:23 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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You can dismiss me grouchy if it pleases however it does not distract. I'm sure V was just playing at shadow boxing there.

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#114706 - 10/11/17 06:59 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
You can dismiss me grouchy if it pleases however it does not distract. I'm sure V was just playing at shadow boxing there.

#Nothingtosee


Grandiose assumption. You really should look at yourself for once. Following me here like crazy serves what purpose? What does that say about you?
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#114709 - 10/11/17 09:20 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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@Phoenician Disappointed on how you fell for it.
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#114712 - 10/12/17 03:28 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sabrina27]
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Never know, This (prior response) could be the trick? unless fatuous humor doesn't translate well and/or you really are so fucking retarded that THIS is the apex of your cunning.
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#114714 - 10/12/17 09:45 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17

If it shakes loose the idea he's got lodged in his head that pussy is this magical mythical creature that is beyond his reach, it should be the beginning of more than "one night."


That was a mistake, yes. But it's also a mistake to dismiss their capabilities to get what they want. I've observed this even in the most feeble-minded of women. The degree of success they have when employing their techniques varies, of course, but from now on I'll be a lot more weary of you, and more respectful too, if I encounter someone who seems to know what she's doing.
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#114718 - 10/12/17 10:25 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sargeist]
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@Phoenician
Quit cherry picking which parts you desire to deem as lies. Why not just consider the whole thing as a lie?
Probs that was part of my plan, one of my tricks.
Oh wait this is part of my plan too. Great to see things going smoothly according to my plans.


Edited by Sabrina27 (10/12/17 10:27 AM)
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#114722 - 10/12/17 02:10 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Sabrina27]
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 Originally Posted By: Sabrina27
@Phoenician
Quit cherry picking which parts you desire to deem as lies. Why not just consider the whole thing as a lie?
Probs that was part of my plan, one of my tricks.
Oh wait this is part of my plan too. Great to see things going smoothly according to my plans.


Oh come on, you and your plans. If you post a topic on the forum, then the game plays itself. Even if people are aware of your intent to troll, they usually participate anyway, either out of boredom or for shits and giggles. If they don't know that you're trolling, then they simply take part in a discussion. Big deal. Just because the Dog from the Machine doesn't know how to troll a forum properly, it doesn't mean it's such a big magic trick.


Edited by Czereda (10/12/17 02:13 PM)
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#114724 - 10/12/17 02:44 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
Sabrina27 Offline
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^Ever heard of sarcasm? Btw you missed my point. Don't be too thirsty to reply, next time try harder.
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#114725 - 10/12/17 04:03 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Czereda]
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Just because the Dog from the Machine doesn't know how to troll a forum properly, it doesn't mean it's such a big magic trick.


We all haven't had years to refine our internet account prowess, Anna.
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#114871 - 10/22/17 10:34 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Dan_Dread]
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How much money is bad? Like, what's the cutoff point?


Too much of something is always bad, by definition. If you have too much, the amount you have is a bad amount. If there is no such thing as a sum of money that is too great, it is not because it is not bad to have an excess of money, but because you can never have too much.

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#114907 - 10/23/17 04:11 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: CCB]
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 Originally Posted By: CCB
Too much of something is always bad, by definition.


Is it? Too much of what and decided by who? Isn't that just you parroting off an old cliche?
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#114914 - 10/23/17 10:28 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: SIN3]
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Did you not get the rest of CCB's post at all? By DEFINITION, "too much" means "too much." If there is no such a thing as a too large amount of something, then it's NOT "too much." He's pointing out that it's silly to say "too much" is not "too much," because, well . . . "too much" MEANS something. It means "too much." Come on now.
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#114915 - 10/23/17 11:00 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: CCB]
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Huh. Touche.
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#115161 - 11/12/17 11:21 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
This is true, I'm rarely interested in others. I chalk it up to most people being flatly uninteresting, here, there and everywhere.

Yet, more often than not, people tend to find ME interesting...

...to the point of annoyance. I wish these kids would just get the hell off my lawn.

boo hoo ..now go get on with forfeiting altruism in the long term..\m/

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#115162 - 11/13/17 02:29 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: dethbcumslife23]
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You either don't know what those words mean, are responding to the wrong post, or are just a general space cadet. Who really knows, but your response doesn't make any sense.
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#115164 - 11/13/17 08:17 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Dan_Dread]
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So far I haven't understood one single post that she's made, to be honest.
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#115172 - 11/14/17 04:10 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Asmedious]
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Ah youth... When death becomes life, or some such shit.

SHOW ME, I say.
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#115239 - 11/20/17 02:24 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Dan_Dread]
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then you don't understand it you ecumenical fucktard - your ignorance is not my problem - it is yours ;-)
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#115244 - 11/20/17 04:09 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
Ah youth... When death becomes life, or some such shit.

SHOW ME, I say.


Happily Sin Three!! - erm..what is it you want me to show you?? and, as an aside, are you like, 'Sin' as in without? or 'Sin' as in the transgressions according to religion, or an immoral act, *ahem.. defined by religious systems of control?? I'm sure you are like ' yay! without trinity' which is kinda cool (I guess) ..anyway it is pronounced and written Yute..or Yooot or some such shit ;-)) and my user name includes the brilliantly deviant word CUM..what is not to like?? Be seeing you - '9'

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#115245 - 11/20/17 08:45 AM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: dethbcumslife23]
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 Originally Posted By: dethbcumslife23
then you don't understand it you ecumenical fucktard - your ignorance is not my problem - it is yours ;-)


Ecumenical? So I "represent a number of christian churches" do I?

You can't just write words without knowing what they mean and expect to be understood, aside from maybe being understood as 'special needs'.
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#115266 - 11/21/17 04:09 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Ecumenical? Meaning all over the world, I'm afraid dethbcumslife23 has a point. I always envisioned Satanism as a clash of civilisations and this is exactly what it is after all.
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#115271 - 11/21/17 06:05 PM Re: Getting what you want with what you've got... [Re: fiendish]
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 Originally Posted By: fiendish
Ecumenical? Meaning all over the world...

Not exactly. Meaning Universalist, inclusive, that COEXIST bumper sticker shit.
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