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#114598 - 10/03/17 05:11 PM Re: Big Mouth - 2017 [Re: Phoenician]
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Ok I follow. See? How hard was that? Are you that ashamed of it that you forcefully use cryptic writing to mask it?

Can't say I find it relatable but I can understand it. People want to feel sameness and acceptance. Alienation can be a lonely place; especially if you can't even stand yourself.
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#114599 - 10/03/17 05:42 PM Re: Big Mouth - 2017 [Re: SIN3]
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Can't say I find it relatable but I can understand it. People want to feel sameness and acceptance. Alienation can be a lonely place; especially if you can't even stand yourself.


There's always lessons to learn in life. That's what I thought I needed to do to establish my selfish teenage will, and that continued on well into adulthood..

The lesson taken from that was: Who the fuck needs a group, anyway? Solo sessions are also fun in the GTA Online of life.

Then you learn to actually enjoy the solitude, and even the madness. No source of "comfort" outside oneself is needed because you actually enjoy the "suffering". Why eliminate the thing that pushes you most and makes you strongest?
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#114613 - 10/04/17 08:30 PM Re: Big Mouth - 2017 [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Puberty is gross and awkward has been a theme on multiple comedies for ages. The subject matter itself is not really transgressive. But I think there are two elements of the treatment that are skeeving people out:

(1) There are actual depictions of cartoon genitalia. That is a line rarely but not never crossed--see giant clitoris in the Southpark movie. But these are explicitly the genitalia of a pubescent girl. Giant disembodied Southpark clit was an adult clit for all we know.

I don't think direct depiction of preteen vulva, in particular, has ever been done, and I can see why some might clench at the thought.

(2) See below...

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
This actually looks pretty tame compared to say..Rick and Morty, or many other adult themed cartoons.

Point of contrast: The treatment of preteen/teen sexuality in Rick and Morty is generally tempered by the reactions of adult characters acting as a stand-in for the audience. Those characters reflect the intent of the creators. For instance, when Morty is humping the sex robot, the whole family is aware of what's going on and accepts it as typical behavior for a kid his age, but is still awkwardly skeeved out and doesn't want to know.

In the trailer for Big Mouth, the only characters front and center from which we hear are the kids. So I can see where's this uncomfortable reaction, wondering what the intent behind it is. I get that it's supposed to be humorous and hearken back to the viewer's own awkward pubescent moments, but it's not spelled out as clearly.


Edited by XiaoGui17 (10/04/17 08:31 PM)
Edit Reason: Redundantly redundant
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#114625 - 10/05/17 10:38 AM Re: Big Mouth - 2017 [Re: XiaoGui17]
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It’s ten episodes of television that could only be made in this format because, as is noted in meta-fashion in the last installment, if it weren’t animated, it would skate way too close to being child pornography.
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Which is why people are pretty freaked out by it. If it weren't animated, it crosses lines for a lot of viewers. "Coming of Age" teeters on Who the fuck are you kidding?

I agree, it is breaking new ground for the U.S. This is pretty Vanilla stuff in contrast to say...Japanese Animation.
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