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#115193 - 11/15/17 08:07 PM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Dan_Dread]
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As an addendum, and on a serious note, I don't bust your balls because you are Aquino's greatest fan, but rather because of the manner in which you do it.

Approach A: Hello Dr.Aquino. I have read your material on X, and I'm very curious to hear your opinions on how you deal with Y problem in the context of applying X to your everyday life.

Approach B: Hi Dr.Aquino I read all your books and I love everything you have to say about everything, is it true you were of virgin birth and when you fart it smells like fresh cut grass? I bet it is!

One of these approaches is respectable, the other cringeworthy.
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#115194 - 11/15/17 08:46 PM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Dan_Dread]
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#115195 - 11/16/17 12:23 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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I grabbed the Kindle edition and am about halfway through. What happened to the Luxor is downright depressing! It's kinda like what happened to Check E. Cheese down the road, but on an INSANELY larger scale (took some of the offspring there lately to discover they ain't got the network of tubes to climb in no more . . . just a sub-par arcade now, and the robot band is being retired as well \:\( .)

Man, you really, really bust some AMORC balls in that first half, Doc. If those guys didn't like you before, they're gonna wish you were never born now. Which makes me wonder: what do you think this will mean down the road for folks who are AMORC members but also are either seeking entry to, or are already accepted into the Temple of Set?

I ask because a few weeks ago, I ran into a dude who claims to be an active AMORC member, and also claimed to be currently in the process of joining the Temple of Set. He seemed to take your previous entry into AMORC as a clear sign that there would be no major conflict. Seems he missed the ending of all that. Do you think AMORC is going to clean house of anyone associate with you and the Temple now after they read your book? I'd have a hard time seeing them react any other way.

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#115197 - 11/16/17 04:28 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Obitus]
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As I emphasize throughout the book, I really have no axe to grind with AMORC. If I thought it a hopeless mess, like the big slave religions, I wouldn't bother with it. But I think it has potential, and of course a great "physical start" with its superb Park. It just needs to unchain itself from the BS of Jewish Cabalism, and quit being so neurotic about its founding and history. This is really very easy to do if they want to, but obviously that's their decision.

The Temple of Set is officially and formally a religious institution, while AMORC claims adamantly that it is not. II°+ Setians cannot be affiliates of other religions; this is just an anti-hypocrisy policy. So if AMORC were to follow my recommendation and re-designate itself as a religion, then Setians could not be members any more.

We have the same situation with the O.T.O. Since it's not a religion, Setians can be members.

All such affiliations obviously still require some personal reflection concerning one's rationale. Including not joining something else for dishonest reasons or ulterior motives. So I was always open with Julie Scott about my interests. I think she just got spooked because it was also clear that I was not interested in snake oil.

Yes, I'm really, really bummed about the Luxor. It was an astounding creation, even by Vegas standards. At least the TOS did two of our international conclaves there while it was still in its glory. All the more fun because the Luxor really enjoyed the tickle of having the world's only formal ancient Egyptian religion on the premises.

FYI the updated IlluminAnX is now live on both its printed and Kindle Amazon pages.
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#115198 - 11/16/17 04:55 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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 Originally Posted By: Michael A.Aquino
As I emphasize throughout the book, I really have no axe to grind with AMORC. If I thought it a hopeless mess, like the big slave religions, I wouldn't bother with it.


Yeah I know you aren't coming at them from an the angle of TRYING to rain on their parade in a mean-spirited way. You're obviously trying to help out Rosicrucian-minded folks in general (AMORC affiliated or not) by giving them a more plausible and realistic approach to their stuff. To that end, I really hope your book achieves that goal among those who it's aimed at.

But, just sayin', if they didn't take kindly enough to that long, friendly post you made in their forums about the eight emanations of the MindStar, (to the point that they straight booted you over it), they're PROBABLY not gonna take this book as a friendly gesture. At least the powers-that-be in that organization that got pissy at you probably won't. But who knows?

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#115200 - 11/16/17 09:16 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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 Originally Posted By: MA
I'm really, really bummed about the Luxor. It was an astounding creation, even by Vegas standards. At least the TOS did two of our international conclaves there while it was still in its glory. All the more fun because the Luxor really enjoyed the tickle of having the world's only formal ancient Egyptian religion on the premises.


Really now. I've been to the Luxor many times over the past couple of decades. It's always been a kitschy aesthetic. Vegas standards are pretty low. It's just fancy window dressing for yet another turn of the mill casino.

It reminds me of those Pakistani vendors that show up at Greek Fest with all their polyresin statuettes of Egyptian icons (Made in China of course). Nothing short of a museum gift-shop on a larger scale.


 Originally Posted By: MA
The Temple of Set is officially and formally a religious institution


That's precisely the problem with it. Much like the beef that caused the exodus of the CoS, adherents tend to be pretentious, superstitious and believe in odd things rather than getting out there and seizing life by the balls. Decades later, those people are static. Not really doing much of anything aside pretending on the Internet.
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#115202 - 11/16/17 10:11 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: SIN3]
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Pretending on the Internet? Ha! That’s gold coming from you.
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#115204 - 11/16/17 11:29 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Dark Light 444]
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By all means, let's compare attainment. What is it that you believe I'm pretending exactly? What are you contributing here aside entertainment?

I'll wait...
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#115205 - 11/16/17 11:52 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: SIN3]
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This is neither the time nor place to compare your worth to mine on a message board. Your presence here is what I’d call entertainment, just not very enjoyable. Granted, your word count and incessant blathering on what you deem important issues far outweighs anyone’s on this board, so congrats on the dubious honor.
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#115206 - 11/16/17 11:55 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Dark Light 444]
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Sin just attacks from behind the KB rocking the Susan Powter hair-do and barking about the world. If you read the sum of what she offers this forum, it's basically "HEY! I'M LIKED HERE AND CAN USE A CAMERA ON YOUTUBE!" The gross vacuousness of her personal beliefs are only counterbalanced by the redundancy of her unexplained anger. The only time she's happy is when she feels empowered: which is by attacking others and watching the fallout. Do I like her? absolutely. I thinks she's pretty cool. That hair's gotta go, though.
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#115207 - 11/16/17 12:20 PM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Azathoth68]
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Ah there it is, the predictability of particular users. Thusly supporting a previous topic's content on the subject of the SJW.

There you are, to Aquino's rescue. Though, I don't recall insulting the man personally. Just the idea of a religious premise being a worthy venture. Ideas vs. people. By all means, pontificate on my person. What are my beliefs again? That you have a desire to make me an angry woman with a particular hair cut is telling indeed. You offer me nothing more than wooden nickels.

I do agree however that haters like me muchly.
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#115209 - 11/16/17 03:42 PM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: SIN3]
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Religion is a worthy venture? What? As far as ToS or the CoS? I DID check that part about the rosy cross and found it interesting. I need to reexamine that. But I was just trolling to say hi.
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#115211 - 11/16/17 11:49 PM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
Really now. I've been to the Luxor many times over the past couple of decades. It's always been a kitschy aesthetic. Vegas standards are pretty low. It's just fancy window dressing for yet another turn of the mill casino.

Diane LaVey once told me her favorite story about two children: a pessimist and an optimist. The pessimist was taken to a room full of toys, but he refused to play with any of them. "Why bother? They'll all just break sooner or later."

The optimist was taken to a room filled with shit. He immediately seized a shovel and began to dig. Asked why, he said, "With all this shit I know there's got to be a pony down there somewhere!"

So sure, Sin, you could go into the [original] Luxor and disdain it as "a casino with frills" [which is sadly what it's indeed become after the MGM acquisition & destruction].

But I marveled at the incredible, top-quality historic detail of the original, down to the smallest items. Bill Bennett involved an army of experts, including Egyptologists, to make it so. Sure, it had a casino, but easily ignorable against the many more spectacular features [asonly some of which I recount in the book]. To the extreme of the "Search for the Obelisk" in the vast caverns beneath the Pyramid.

And the flip side of sniffing at "Vegas extravagance" is that only $$$ and vision of the Vegas sort could have built something like this. It was something completely apart from everything else on the Strip. I am still appalled by its destruction.
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#115212 - 11/17/17 12:19 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: Azathoth68]
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 Originally Posted By: Azathoth68
Religion is a worthy venture?

That's one of the investigations of this book: What "religion" could and/or should be if it is to be worthwhile.

The Temple of Set is a LHP initiatory religion, and I think a sound one.

The world's slave-religions - Judaism, Christianity, Islam - are not initiatory, and are indeed worthless.

There is both room and I think a need for an initiatory RHP religion, and that's what Part II of the book sets out to construct, using AMORC as a platform.

It can be argued that proposals like this are unrealistically utopian: that the grip of the s-rs on the world is too entrenched. But I still wanted to speculate, and share the speculation. Like MindWar, it may start a few people thinking in some new ways.
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#115214 - 11/17/17 07:39 AM Re: _IlluminAnX_ by M. Aquino [Re: SIN3]
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Thank you for showing your hoo-haa.
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