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#115579 - 01/22/18 09:53 AM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: fiendish]
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Is there an ultimate sacrifice to live at the best quality you can attain? I suppose, for people that live for the approval of others.

Crossing that line can be liberating for some. I've witnessed it, even if I'd consider it small stuff. It's big stuff to other people. What I've also witnessed (and frequently) is that when a person embraces a foreign culture, it's a mindfuck. The tendency to share, push, and propagate it others is very curious that it makes me skeptical. What's really going on there?

Culture is just people expressing ideas and feelings. If a set of ideas are foreign, not of your nation; it does produce some pretty odd behaviors.


Recently, white Europeans have been converting to Islam so quickly that it's been projected to be the largest Religion in the world by 2070. Then what? That's what I want to know.
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#115611 - 01/25/18 02:23 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: SIN3]
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Well, it is pretty acceptable there's skepticism about change. Think about it. A culture is like a collective behavior. There is nothing wrong about it, also nothing right. Maybe you could call it a religion. The urge for internal approval is really a mechanism that bonds them together.
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#115614 - 01/25/18 05:53 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: fiendish]
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In a microcosmic sense it is. On the Macro it's just humans expressing themselves. This is why the fringe is so attractive to the herd. It's different and doesn't match their own.
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#115622 - 01/26/18 04:57 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: entropicmomentum]
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Slightly off topic... But the USA has like 250million people. That is sooo many people. What number is considered optimal capacity, or sustainable capacity for your piece of dirt? At what point are you allowed to simply say, "We're full. Fuck off."


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#115624 - 01/26/18 05:37 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: ShadowLover]
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 Originally Posted By: ShadowLover
Slightly off topic... But the USA has like 250million people. That is sooo many people. What number is considered optimal capacity, or sustainable capacity for your piece of dirt? At what point are you allowed to simply say, "We're full. Fuck off."


And what for? It's better to keep admitting people beyond your capacity and allow for "healthy" fist and gun competition (Who will stand and who will fall?) or just let the whole thing degenerate into chaos. It would be more interesting that way.

Not sure if you watched that lame movie "Elysium." It ends with the protagonists trying to literally squeeze all the inhabitants of the poor overpopulated Earth into the tiny cosmic paradise. A way to turn it into hell if you let your diabolical imagination go wild.


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#115630 - 01/28/18 03:27 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: SIN3]
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What is really intriguing is the supposed difference between microcosm and macrocosm. In fact , such is the difference between the fringe and the herd. If you come to think about it there's an analogy of what does not match between the two versions. There is what herds them, which is totally acceptable, then it's what leads to stray, which is just expressing themselves.
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#115637 - 01/29/18 10:13 AM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: fiendish]
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Could you cite an example?

Take for instance the art world. There's much debate over who or what constitutes art. Is it the gallery owners? Learning a technique? Managing to change a person's perspective? The artists? Et. Al.

So this guy comes along and starts gluing dildos to images of Christ to cause controversy. Then Piss Christ happened.


How would you frame that?
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#115663 - 02/02/18 12:25 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: SIN3]
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You have a point here. And then there's the Pink Flamingos. The character Babs (Divine) in the final scene of the movie had to eat dog feces. Divine says, "I followed that dog around for three hours just zooming in on its asshole, waiting for it to empty its bowels so that they could film the scene." As a matter of fact , "Pink Flamingos" is part of John Waters "Trash Trilogy".
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#115672 - 02/03/18 05:13 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: fiendish]
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The framing of it? What would you consider it? You didnít seem to address it aside for agreeing with a point Iíve made.
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#115679 - 02/04/18 06:49 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: SIN3]
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It has no real purpose other than provocation. Art generally is associated with something nice or/and beautiful. Even with figures that seem ugly, the sentiment that is produced eventually leads to catharsis. This little piece of shit (or urine, if you prefer) has nothing to do with art, except if you consider provocation as art. Art may be provocative, but everything provocative is not art.
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#115691 - 02/06/18 11:39 AM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: fiendish]
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That's the problem with defining Art. There doesn't seem to be a solid definition we all agree upon. The idea that Art is something aesthetically attractive has failings. Art is provocation. Ideally, it's supposed to change your perception of even the most mundane of things. Such as pee in a jar with a crucifix.

The mulitcultural aspect of Art is undeniable. It accounts for why the jar provokes only a specific culture while others look at it and just say WTF that's art?
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#115718 - 02/09/18 10:35 AM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: SIN3]
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Well, that only a specific culture is provoked by a certain piece of art proves nothing. In fact what is intriguing is that art cannot be targeted, since pieces of art can get multiple meanings. Basically art has to stimulate with no exact reason and with no exact aim. It is expressed through symbols , which may have different meanings for the artist and the ones who watch it. Then, some symbols may be so precise that can be connected with a certain culture, then it's the big picture that contains more symbols that stay in the background. In the end , what remains is only the stimuli caused by that certain piece of art and not any reasoning of it.
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#115719 - 02/09/18 10:38 AM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: fiendish]
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By what standard or definition? That's precisely my point. What you say, what I say, isn't etched in stone. It's like trying to nail Jello to a wall.
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#115722 - 02/09/18 01:36 PM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: SIN3]
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It depends on how you see it. You put the frame. Either you like it or not. You could even nail anybody on the wall. It's your choice. It seems to me that's art.
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#116351 - 05/29/18 09:29 AM Re: The Pitfalls of Multiculturalism [Re: entropicmomentum]
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Multiculturalism isn't really meant to mean huge waves of immigrants from other cultures replacing a pre-existent culture though. For instance you have a few Asians over there, a few black people over there, a few Indians over there and so on. Everyone else in our part of the world will be homogenised whiter than the whitest white. So 'multiculturalism' is ideally what we would like to have rather than something to complain out. If we're talking about massive ethnic population displacement that's a different subject entirely. That's not something we're really experiencing in the West though, even in say France Muslims only represent 7.5% of the of the population. If it was say 40% of the population that would no longer be a 'multicultural' situation it would be a population upheaval to a new dominant culture or ethnic group kind like what happen in Anglo Saxon England. I don't really think that's going to happen though you will find there will be a certain level of absorption into the indigenous culture, people will intermarry with the indigenous group and so on.

There isn't a Jewish conspiracy to replace a population with something else. Even if there was I don't think they would want to replace us all with Muslims.

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