#28093 - 08/07/09 07:29 PM
Re: Ouija Boards
[Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Azathoth68
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Registered: 07/18/09
Posts: 74
Loc: Denver, CO USA
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Nope. I've had no real results, other than that that could be explained by someone moving the planchette around. But it IS fun for boring nights, when tipsy, and calling in whatever happens to wander by.
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#28141 - 08/08/09 04:16 PM
Re: Ouija Boards
[Re: Ankhhape]
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god.over.djinn
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Registered: 06/23/09
Posts: 75
Loc: Melbourne
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Hi Ankhhape,
Astrology with its randomness never seemed a good vehicle for this form of gnosis to me. I am a bit confused that, in a comparison with tarot cards, it is astrology that you would typify as random. The stars don't change much in a life time and the position of the planets can be predicted with great accuracy, yet if I understand such matters correctly, tarot cards are shuffled before each use - are they not?
If you seek a medium to facilitate self-reflection, would not a scrying device be the ultimate? Eg, a black mirror. At the cost of a picture frame and a can of black spray paint, they are cheap, too, in comparison to other introspective media.
G.O.D.
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#28142 - 08/08/09 04:42 PM
Re: Ouija Boards
[Re: god.over.djinn]
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Jake999
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Registered: 11/02/08
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Here's my take on the randomality aspect of Tarot... keeping in mind that I'm no mathematician.
On a standard 10 card spread, using the full Tarot deck of 78 cards, each position would have to be seen as a single-event. In the case of position 1, you have a 1/156 chance of the spot-on appropriate card to land in the usable position. This takes into account that the cards can have a divinitive (head up) or inverted (head down) orientation, each with its own meaning or degree of meaning within the context of the question.
Position 2, 1 /154 (77 cards) Position 3, 1/152 (76 cards) Position 4, 1/150 (75 cards) Position 5, 1/148 (74 cards) Position 6, 1/146 (73 cards) Position 7, 1/144 (72 cards) Position 8, 1/142 (71 cards) Position 9, 1/140 (70 cards) Position 10, 1/138 (69 cards)
What would be the odds of all 10 card positions landing with the optimum reading, divinitive or inverted, for each position of the question at hand? I dunno. I ran out of fingers and toes.
This simplistic example covers a 10 cards spread, and I have seen people use Tarot spreads that use many more.
This isn't to show that there is any accuracy in the Tarot cards themselves. I tend to think that it pretty much boils down to keen intuition and the ability to extrapolate possibilities from any inputs given; something most people are probably able to do on one level or another. The cards could well be a tool for concentration, much like music or aromas, to allow them to concentrate more of their cognitive skills to the task.
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