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#11567 - 09/18/08 11:36 AM Ouija Boards
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Ok, I am confused. I have never had a ouija board but last night my 10 year old daughter's friends brings one over because her mom said she had to get it out of her house ASAP because it is the work of the devil. What is the big freaking deal about these boards?
I told her she can leave it here. I notice that all christans freak out when you say anything about a ouija board.
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#11573 - 09/18/08 05:19 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: memphischick]
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LOL sounds like it's just some paranoid ztain who has watched to many horror movies. There shouldn't be a big deal about these toy because they are mearly that just toys.
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#11575 - 09/18/08 05:45 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ringmaster]
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Amytaville Horror (the book at least, didn't see the movie) had a ouiji board that opened up the devil to them. It all starts with the ouiji board mwah ah ah ah ah.
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#11576 - 09/18/08 06:14 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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I think the big get for the Ouija board was The Exorcist. Little Reagen used it and see what she got herself into? Of course, seeing as it's made by Hasbro, I doubt that they have a Shaman or paranormal electrician WiFi-ing all of them to the bowels of Hell. It's simply a thrill game that some fools take way too seriously. Hollywood-style hysteria.
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#11617 - 09/19/08 10:14 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: barrytheblade]
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Haha, I think hardcore Christians just don't like to have fun. I remember when I was a kid, my friends and I made one and used it in secret, mainly because my friends parents were all total Jesus freaks. I don't see the big deal either. All it is is a bunch of letters, a piece of plastic, and the asshole in the group who always makes it say creepy things.
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#11699 - 09/21/08 01:48 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Sapphire-Kain]
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Hey easy with the asshole comments, I was always the asshole! I dont personally believe the have any magical powers but that they are fun to tease the xtians with!
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#11711 - 09/21/08 07:22 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: The Fat One]
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paranoia, paranoia, paranoia. Enough said.

Magic 8-balls are basically the same thing, but you don't see people freaking out over those.
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#11855 - 09/25/08 09:03 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: The Zebu]
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Well a few friends and I played with the one my daughters friend left here and it was no big deal to me. It's fun when people are freaking out because they think the dead is talking to them. It was funny as hell. they called me yesterday saying that they were still freaking out and paranoid. lol. I was laughing my ass off.
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#11870 - 09/26/08 09:06 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: memphischick]
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So I take it that the device actually moved or something that freaked them out so much?
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#11956 - 09/28/08 05:29 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: prhill]
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I don't know exactly what freaked them out so much. To me it's just a board but all these christan freaks think it's this evil board. it trips me out because everyone makes such a big freakin deal about them.
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#11958 - 09/28/08 06:07 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: memphischick]
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My knowledge and experience leads me to the conclusion that Ouija boards themselves have as much occult power as a pendulum just lying on a table. The missing link in their 'power' is the operator. Ouija boards and pendulums are 'training wheels' that can be used to develop insight into your own internal 'powers' of instinct and guidance on higher levels. They contain only as much 'evil' or 'goodness' as is inherent in the operator. Things that people may be fearing in these objects is their ability (when used properly) to surface the darker side of themselves that they'd rather leave hidden and neglected. So, they call it 'the work of the devil'.
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#13094 - 10/21/08 12:59 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: memphischick]
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It all falls down to Christians being paranoid to things like that.
i can see why the would say it is the work of the devil, but someone should tell them if they ask, maybe their good friend the great J.C might pop round to visit.
I personally have only had a few tries at the board.
but no success.

it all comes down to misconception from movies and horror/occult books.
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#13102 - 10/21/08 01:27 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Marilyn]
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Ouija Board, Oh Ouija Board.....I like the song by Morrissey. I wish the people that get scared by Ouija Boards could see my Ritual Chamber.
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#13120 - 10/21/08 04:54 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Third-Side]
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I'm not a big believer in the occult, so i don't think they are that big of a deal, just a silly little thing that scares the superstitious.
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#13127 - 10/21/08 06:24 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Phaethon]
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HAHAHAHAHA


Take a look at this!

Ouija Board Parker Brothers Hasbro Games.

the same company that produces Monopoly, actually makes these and sells them as a board game

ouija on amazon.com



then for the or chilled person,

the version to speak with Jah:
Ouija for the person on the green side of life


it made me laugh, so i thought i would share it


regards

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#13202 - 10/22/08 10:07 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Marilyn]
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 Originally Posted By: Marilyn
HAHAHAHAHA


Take a look at this!

Ouija Board Parker Brothers Hasbro Games.

the same company that produces Monopoly, actually makes these and sells them as a board game

ouija on amazon.com



then for the or chilled person,

the version to speak with Jah:
Ouija for the person on the green side of life


it made me laugh, so i thought i would share it


regards

-Marilyn



I think it is disturbing for a toy company to be selling these boards, and no parent should allow them to be used without proper guidance or supervision. I believe in the power these boards can open because my own mother had summoned a spirit, but was not skilled in divination or necromancy. After that session the table would levitate and the board did not want to go back in the box. It was not the board itself but the spirit that kept the portal open. I think Ouija boards should never be used unless you know how to close the portal, and I cannot recall their being any ritual to do such a thing. Ouija boards are not the best tool to use to divine because there is no means to control the situation even after you've broken contact.
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#13232 - 10/22/08 03:37 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: BlacKAcRE66]
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...And I think you're full of absolute shit.

: D

No, seriously. Even if I assumed your paranormal head-trips were truth, then technically ANY device can be used as a psychic medium to summon spirits. Writing letters and numbers on a board doesn't suddenly make it magical. IT'S ALL IN THE POWER OF YOUR MIND.

Also according to theory, an inexperienced person would not be able to summon spirits or that kind of shit. It would take great occult power. There are no magic buttons or wands to wave.

Or maybe it could be that since they were inexperienced, they were afraid of its' supposed "power" and let it get to their heads. Naive people always jump the gun when they take their first forays into the occult.


Edited by The Zebu (10/22/08 03:40 PM)
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#13283 - 10/22/08 06:33 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: The Zebu]
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 Originally Posted By: The Zebu
...And I think you're full of absolute shit.

: D

No, seriously. Even if I assumed your paranormal head-trips were truth, then technically ANY device can be used as a psychic medium to summon spirits. Writing letters and numbers on a board doesn't suddenly make it magical. IT'S ALL IN THE POWER OF YOUR MIND.

Also according to theory, an inexperienced person would not be able to summon spirits or that kind of shit. It would take great occult power. There are no magic buttons or wands to wave.

Or maybe it could be that since they were inexperienced, they were afraid of its' supposed "power" and let it get to their heads. Naive people always jump the gun when they take their first forays into the occult.


Yeah I guess you're right I am full of shit, but my story was based on what my Aunt had told me because she was with my mother and her friend when they were operating the Ouija board...Those boards do not always work for everybody, just like they did not work for me when I tried. I don't think my Mother or my Aunt would lie, but hey I'm full of shit, so lets just pile it up right now. There are better ways to conjure spirits but I am full of shit, so I will not bother with explaining...Nobody knows how those Ouija boards are manufactured, but if they are magnetized prior to shipping that may explain why they work for however many occasions they do work.

When you go into a session of conjuring you do everything to prepare and to protect yourself and to contain the spirit you seek to manifest in order to not harm you. That is why there is an invocation and a banishing. The Ouija board does not have those protections... That is why I am against their use. Technically you are correct, but in practice there have been too many recorded stories about misadventures with the Ouija to discredit the fact.

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#13286 - 10/22/08 06:47 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: BlacKAcRE66]
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#13288 - 10/22/08 06:49 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Dan_Dread]
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There is probably as many recorded stories of the boards working as there are stories about the "virgin mary" appearing on burritos and smoothies. If not more.
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#13298 - 10/22/08 07:28 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: blsk]
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 Originally Posted By: blsk
There is probably as many recorded stories of the boards working as there are stories about the "virgin mary" appearing on burritos and smoothies. If not more.


Hey you forgot Tortillas and Mulberry Trees. lol! I am not here to defend the Ouija board, I just shared a goddamn story and a reason why I don't do Ouija Boards. I have had only twice tried Ouija boards and they never worked with me, but when my friends or relatives have used it, the thing was going all over the place. But hey Ouija boards don't work...Every time a group uses one, they always say the same thing; "Who is moving the pointer?" It could be man made part of the time and it could be spiritual the other part. To each their own I guess.

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#13300 - 10/22/08 07:37 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: BlacKAcRE66]
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I guess it could be said that there are two types of people on this earth. The type that move the pointer, and the type that wait expectantly for it to move itself.

Personally I always got more amusement from the former!
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#13301 - 10/22/08 07:39 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: BlacKAcRE66]
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 Originally Posted By: BlacKAcRE66
End of subject HAIL SATAN

The real end of this subject is found in your profile...

Age: 39
Occupation: UFO Cult Leader / Guru

I think that sums up your mentality rather well...

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#13319 - 10/22/08 09:56 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz

 Originally Posted By: BlacKAcRE66
End of subject HAIL SATAN

The real end of this subject is found in your profile...

Age: 39
Occupation: UFO Cult Leader / Guru

I think that sums up your mentality rather well...

~T~


Awe, what's wrong with a little humor? Gotta chip on your shoulder or something? Is this like some sort of club initiation where you bitch slap the new guy? Or try to anyway? I didn't know this was the Water Buffalo Club. LOL!

Give me a break already DEOS SATANAS EXOCIA DUNEMOS TRUMAE TUOFO!
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#13426 - 10/25/08 10:08 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: BlacKAcRE66]
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Hey I made $$$millions playing Monopoly and I owned the world more than once playing Risk. OUIJA IS A GAME, PRODUCED BY A GAME COMPANY. The mystery surrounding it can be traced back to when it first appeared. Back in the 1800s. When snake oils cured all your ills and gyspies could conjure the spirits. It's bullshit, plain and simple.
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#13427 - 10/25/08 10:38 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Marilyn]
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I tried playing with it but it sucked. I don't see what the big deal is. It didn't do anything. People go crazy over something that dosen't even work.
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#13513 - 10/27/08 11:41 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Marilyn]
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I've always been entertained at the notion something made by Parker Brothers could be "evil". Granted not all Ouija boards are made by Parker Brothers and my own experience has shown that those ones suck anyway. I'm not sure where exactly people make the jump from communication with the dead to a "tool of the devil" Alot of it probably have to do with the fact that people fear what they don't understand, and how convenient it is to label somthing as "evil" when you don't understand it.
I myself had a Ouija board at one time. I remember one time my grandama came over to our house and she freaked when she saw it. I tried explaining to her that; since there was no devil, her fear of me being possessed by the devil through the board was down right retarded. She assured me that there was a devil, and it was my own ignorance toward that fact was going to lead to my possession. Well, here I am 10 years later and still free from possession.


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#13602 - 10/28/08 11:13 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Having only played with the Ouija board a few times, in my lesser experienced years in the "occult", I have not had much success with it. Granted the people I was using it with were probably not serious about it's possibilities, and one guy was just a dick (He made me think, for about an hour or so, that Dead, the ex-vocalist from Mayhem, was "speaking" to us. Oh to be young and gullible). But there was this one time when my sister (who is also into the occult) and I tried it, and we had this interesting "conversation" with a boy named Timmy who fell to his death. Could have been nothing but wishful thinking manifesting itself. Who knows? Maybe I should bust it out again. I think I still have it...
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#13613 - 10/29/08 06:15 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: memphischick]
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I have never had much luck with the board. Am i doing something wrong? I have seen them work on shows but never in real life!!
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#13621 - 10/29/08 03:08 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ontomor]
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Let me put it this way.
In ones own universe is everything possible.
If you believe oujia works, fine then for you.
And even so if it can be proven you are communicating with the dead I find it quite rude to wake them up out of their sleep. They have something else to do then talking to a bunch of fluffy a-holes who try to be "elitist-mediums". Seriously, I first believed it and did it with a girlfriend. It "worked" and we had suddenly problems with an "angry" spirit. Noticed afterwards it was just one great subconsience who was fooling us.

The universe is a very strange thing, things that can be; aren't and wich cannot be; are. Only trying to make a point here that everything will eventually exist or work if you just believe in it. And if you let it work, it will always be your brain who is tricking you. Neverless, maybe some things may come into existance within your own universe.

(...OK, I have been reading to much "hitchhickers guide to the galaxy... altough I must admit if you take some things in perspective wich seems improbable they actually make sense if you think about it..)

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I have never had much luck with the board. Am i doing something wrong? I have seen them work on shows but never in real life!!

Do not forget, everything on television is punt in scene. They want you to believe some things CAN happen. Some words of advice for you; believe in the board and it will work. But the best advice is: smash the board, get outside and enjoy your life, if you are dead you will probably have enough time to talk to your also-dead-compagnons.


Edited by Dimitri (10/29/08 03:12 PM)
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#13656 - 10/30/08 02:58 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ontomor]
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 Originally Posted By: fakepropht
 Originally Posted By: ontomor
i am new to all of this and maybe i should read and listen a bit before i try to make a point about what i think.


That's the best advise you could have given yourself.

 Originally Posted By: ontomor
I have never had much luck with the board. Am i doing something wrong? I have seen them work on shows but never in real life!!


 Originally Posted By: ontomor
I have to agree about the board, but if it was a link to the dead why shouldn't it work for all people and not others.


101 is a place for newbies to learn and feel the board out. Therefore, you won't get the hammer dropped on you for 3 one liners in your first few hours here. Some members have lurked for months, studying, reading, and learning, before making their first post. Bear in mind, one liners like this when posted in other sections of the board will be deleted and could get you banned.


ontomor: I removed your other one liners. You may be new here, but that does not exclude you from the rules of this forum. It is your responsibility to know and abide by them while visiting our slice of the internet. You take responsibility for your actions here, and no one else can be held responsible for you. If you didn't read the rules while signing up your account, I highly suggest you read them now.
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#22540 - 03/25/09 04:41 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: BlacKAcRE66]
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Once, my grandma bought a Ouija board from Toys-R-Us and got a flat tire on the way home. When she slammed on the brakes, the Ouija board slid off of the seat and fell onto the floor, it was really creepy. After getting a ride home from her best friends sister in-law, she tripped over the dog while walking in the doorway. She then decided that she wanted to return it ASAP, but she couldn't find the receipt (that was the creepiest part). So she sold it at a garage sale and it was never to be seen again. At least, that's what she told me.

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#22541 - 03/25/09 05:48 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Little Dani-boy]
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So let me get this straight your grandma got a flat tire slammed on her brakes and the thing on her seat slid off on to the floor… Somehow you think this was creepy, simple physics? She then gets home and trips over her poorly trained dog… Then after a flat tire and a ride home in a different car she apparently cannot clearly see any opportunity where the receipt could have been lost? Creepy, are you fucking serious?

Creepy would have been someone giving her one on her following birthday and having it be the same board… But alas there is nothing interesting or creepy here at all, not even a good story… All I see here is a person’s ability to believe that an object can persuade their future… It is all in your perspective, should you think these things contain power then for you they contain as much power as you are willing to give them…

Read more post less, now run along and play little troll…
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#22649 - 03/27/09 11:03 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz

So let me get this straight your grandma got a flat tire slammed on her brakes and the thing on her seat slid off on to the floor… Somehow you think this was creepy, simple physics? She then gets home and trips over her poorly trained dog… Then after a flat tire and a ride home in a different car she apparently cannot clearly see any opportunity where the receipt could have been lost? Creepy, are you fucking serious?

Creepy would have been someone giving her one on her following birthday and having it be the same board… But alas there is nothing interesting or creepy here at all, not even a good story… All I see here is a person’s ability to believe that an object can persuade their future… It is all in your perspective, should you think these things contain power then for you they contain as much power as you are willing to give them…

Read more post less, now run along and play little troll…
No, I'm not fucking serious.

If you would have looked and saw that my post was a reply to a lame-ass story, you would've known that I was being sarcastic. I thank you for your proof reading and views on the oh-so-spooky Ouija board, but your run-on sentences and poor grammar make me take it back.

I "apparently cannot clearly see" how anybody could have taken that seriously. Wow.

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#22661 - 03/28/09 05:10 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Little Dani-boy]
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If you were being sarcastic, why did the intonation of your response wasn't it at all? If responding to a lame-ass story it's better to give YOUR opinion about WHY it is a lame-ass story. This instead of posting your grannies crap and thus showing what a little idiot you are.


You are new here, I suggest keeping your head low; trolls and idiots get banned easily.



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#22674 - 03/28/09 11:54 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Dimitri]
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 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
If you were being sarcastic, why did the intonation of your response wasn't it at all? If responding to a lame-ass story it's better to give YOUR opinion about WHY it is a lame-ass story. This instead of posting your grannies crap and thus showing what a little idiot you are.


You are new here, I suggest keeping your head low; trolls and idiots get banned easily.

This forum is a fucking joke, full of illiterate morons and hypocrisy. If you're going to criticize me, at least do it with proper sentence structure. All I see here are cowards trying to be "real" Satanists by bashing other users with 10 posts or less, regardless of anything. As for explaining WHY it was a pointless story...seriouisly. If it isn't obvious to you then you're fucking stupid. I don't owe you an explaination.

I'm done wasting my time with you posers.

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#22676 - 03/29/09 12:56 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Little Dani-boy]
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I thought his post was funny and halfway clever. too bad he threw a temper tantrum. see ya daniboy
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#22679 - 03/29/09 04:29 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Bacchae]
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Yeah his sarcastic reply was amusing but too bad that after some mild (misplaced) opposition little Dani-boy turned into a little Nancy-boy.

It's maybe better he's gone, moderate opposition might have done some lasting damage. I at times wonder how those people survive out there; it's a harsh cold world.

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#22680 - 03/29/09 05:56 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: memphischick]
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I find Ouija Boards - or rather anything that is pertained to have an unnatural link to the unknown – as utterly romantic. Romantic in the sense that their use would bring upon some form of enlightenment, yet at the same time, that they are completely hapless and ridiculous.

I spent many wasted hours with Ouija Boards in my youth, always in the belief that they did work, that they did perform as claimed and I enjoyed myself immensely - it was extremely entertaining and I loved scaring myself silly with my overactive imagination. Nowadays I view them as nothing more than a prop, they certainly are nothing to be feared and most definitely nothing to be revered.

Is it really surprising to you that people will react to Ouija boards with fear, will react with such absurd stupidity? People will always react in a way that befits their knowledge – Ouija Boards are always linked with things that are dark, supernatural and that concern death.
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#23832 - 04/28/09 01:44 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: BlacKAcRE66]
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I am a college student, and me and my roommate got one. Most of the time it was just full of shit and gave us stupid answers and stuff. Then the it started giving us answers to questions we had no idea of knowing. Dont believe me if you want, everybody has there own opinion, but I know that it does work just not 100% of the time. CAOSAGONU!
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#23833 - 04/28/09 02:09 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: KrazyKriss]
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It doesn't work 100% of the time? Wouldn't the stupid answers it gave count as it working? If it was giving you answers to questions you had no idea of knowing how can you be sure they are correct?
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#23871 - 04/28/09 10:12 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: KrazyKriss]
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Remember “The Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy” teaches us the ultimate answer is

In “The restaurant at the end of the universe” we learn that the Question may simply be “What do you get if you multiply six by nine?” But none of that matters because those who sought the question decided not to do it again and just settle for the suggestion "How many roads must a man walk down"?

The lesson of this story children is unless you know the question any potential answers are worthless… Connecting these answers to future events is an exercise in fantasy, you can only settle for possibility's not realities…

By the way, If a question is not asked then is there truly an answer or is it just a statement?

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#23957 - 05/01/09 01:22 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Marilyn]
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Oh yes, they are so terrifying. Just kidding. I bought one at toys-r-us. I believe it's the Hasbro's one listed above. Yes, toys-r-us is now going towards the occult. Hahah.
Plus, I made a hand carved one. I have them to make money off of pseudo-psychology tricks. I have made about $100 in two weeks with "Ouija Settings". Tarot cards are just as profitable. =)
What I notice is the people who are most terrified of the "unknown" are the people who pay me for settings and readings.
The big deal is fear. Fear is attractive at the same time it's avoided.

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#27341 - 07/21/09 11:36 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: memphischick]
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Hmm i dont know, I used to have one. When i was 18 some freinds and me set out to a old "supposed" slave burial ground to play with it. My mother who is a fairly religious women was fine with it, she just asked we taked crucifixes with us.. I guess some people just just beleive too much what the pastor tells them and fear of the unknown defeats rationallity. But we had some interesting results in the graveyard and the abandoned house were a man murdered his family.
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#27844 - 08/03/09 04:16 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: bluj666]
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Honestly...it's so sad people are easily fooled into believing a toy has "MYSTICAL POWERS". I was the asshole who moved it to all the letters; all my stupid friends fell for it and still talk about it to this day. If you honestly believe going into a burial ground and "haunted" houses is going to provoke some UNKNOWN force, and that UNKNOWN FORCE is going to tell you SECRETS...you're an idiot. It's sad to see all the little kids on youtube post fake videos of being "possessed" by an "evil spirit", AAHAHAHAA.
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#27854 - 08/03/09 10:39 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: bluj666]
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They're really only useful for party games or as a novelty. I know some Wiccans who consider the Ouija Board to be a serious religious artifact, and I just laugh at them. (Of course, they call them "spirit boards" because they don't want to admit they're just using a children's game.)

That said, it's also amusing to see superstitious Christians get their panties in a wad over a piece of wood with letters painted on them.
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#28090 - 08/07/09 07:12 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: The Zebu]
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I've never had any negative results from Ouija. I don't whip (the Ouija board) out all the time, but whenever using it with intention, it was always straightforward.
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#28092 - 08/07/09 07:20 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Azathoth68]
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So then you believe that Ouija boards actually contain some sort of "power"?
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#28093 - 08/07/09 07:29 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Nope. I've had no real results, other than that that could be explained by someone moving the planchette around. But it IS fun for boring nights, when tipsy, and calling in whatever happens to wander by. \:D
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#28102 - 08/07/09 08:52 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Azathoth68]
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I've never had any real results either. Other than everyone getting freaked out over nothing (which I find highly amusing). People take it far too seriously, when really it's a toy. Kinda like tarot cards lol.
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#28103 - 08/07/09 08:56 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Herne The Hunter]
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Tarot cards a toy? (sorry for the one-liner), maybe you should read deeper into whatever divination methods you are fooling around with and if you try you'll come up with interesting answers. I don't think Tarot and Ouija are anywhere near the same coin. Tarot, under the eye of a practitioner (especially Roma), usually are quite revealing.

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#28107 - 08/07/09 09:21 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Azathoth68]
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The Tarot's potential is in its ability to allow the user to look inside their Self, not for 'fortune card' readings.
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#28110 - 08/07/09 10:21 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ankhhape]
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I hope that some forms of Tarot work, if not, then I have spent considerable time in self-introspection, and in trying to understand random chance and mixed-metaphors. Maybe I'll try 'American Idol' scrabble in the future.

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#28112 - 08/07/09 10:42 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Azathoth68]
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Each to their own. I personally have never had any insight gained from any form of divination that I haven't been able to figure out already for myself using my own brain.
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#28129 - 08/08/09 05:40 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Herne The Hunter]
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Tarot cards anything more than a fun waste of an evening?

The human mind likes to see patterns. Even when there are no real patterns to find; our minds will find a way to turn otherwise seemingly normal occurences into noticable and "predictable" patterns.

Things like Astrology, palm readings, Tarot cards or any other sort of other divinations are not exempt.

Don't look to others, who ultimately are seeking a profit, to see your future. Realize that the power to create your future is in your own hands. If you want something, go after it. Chances are pretty good that no one else is going to go after it for you.
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#28134 - 08/08/09 11:09 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Azathoth68]
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I have had marginal success with the Tarot in self analysis. The aim of the cards being a receptacle or amplifier towards inner growth and insight. Being a method whereby the mind is silenced and inspiration provides the answers, I would agree that some do not need this sort of stimuli but it is a tool that is available for those that can use it.

Astrology with its randomness never seemed a good vehicle for this form of gnosis to me.

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#28141 - 08/08/09 04:16 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ankhhape]
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Hi Ankhhape,

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Astrology with its randomness never seemed a good vehicle for this form of gnosis to me.

I am a bit confused that, in a comparison with tarot cards, it is astrology that you would typify as random. The stars don't change much in a life time and the position of the planets can be predicted with great accuracy, yet if I understand such matters correctly, tarot cards are shuffled before each use - are they not?

If you seek a medium to facilitate self-reflection, would not a scrying device be the ultimate? Eg, a black mirror. At the cost of a picture frame and a can of black spray paint, they are cheap, too, in comparison to other introspective media.


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#28142 - 08/08/09 04:42 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: god.over.djinn]
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Here's my take on the randomality aspect of Tarot... keeping in mind that I'm no mathematician.

On a standard 10 card spread, using the full Tarot deck of 78 cards, each position would have to be seen as a single-event. In the case of position 1, you have a 1/156 chance of the spot-on appropriate card to land in the usable position. This takes into account that the cards can have a divinitive (head up) or inverted (head down) orientation, each with its own meaning or degree of meaning within the context of the question.

Position 2, 1 /154 (77 cards)
Position 3, 1/152 (76 cards)
Position 4, 1/150 (75 cards)
Position 5, 1/148 (74 cards)
Position 6, 1/146 (73 cards)
Position 7, 1/144 (72 cards)
Position 8, 1/142 (71 cards)
Position 9, 1/140 (70 cards)
Position 10, 1/138 (69 cards)

What would be the odds of all 10 card positions landing with the optimum reading, divinitive or inverted, for each position of the question at hand? I dunno. I ran out of fingers and toes.

This simplistic example covers a 10 cards spread, and I have seen people use Tarot spreads that use many more.

This isn't to show that there is any accuracy in the Tarot cards themselves. I tend to think that it pretty much boils down to keen intuition and the ability to extrapolate possibilities from any inputs given; something most people are probably able to do on one level or another. The cards could well be a tool for concentration, much like music or aromas, to allow them to concentrate more of their cognitive skills to the task.
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#28155 - 08/08/09 08:48 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: god.over.djinn]
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I guess what I was trying to get at was that the Tarot too should be used as a form of skrying, not a shuffled card fortune telling type thing. The alignment with the Qabalah and our psyche is what I believe the Tarot to be all about.

Astrology has never been something I was interested although I am interested in Persian culture and spirituality.

Questions I have asked myself were:

- What is the likelihood that one-twelfth of the world's population is having the same kind of day?

- Why is the moment of birth, rather than conception, crucial for astrology?

- Are all horoscopes done before the discovery of the three outermost planets incorrect?

- Why do different schools of astrology disagree so strongly with each other?

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#28156 - 08/08/09 08:55 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ankhhape]
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One of the most interesting things in your list is the preference of the moment of birth, over the moment of conception. While people view people as people from the moment of the first drawn breath, that being, although only in potential, is there for nine full months prior to that breath.

Logic would dictate that if the stars and planets have an influence on a breathing organism, they would likely have influence over the organism growing inside its mother... unless one considers the two to be one until the moment of birth.
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#28158 - 08/08/09 10:22 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ankhhape]
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I know I'm going to take a dose of shit for this, but I do feel the need to set the record a bit straighter here:

The astrology you read in the newspaper is not "Astrology". The basic idea of astrology is that - like the planets affect the tide and weather and whatnot - that they also affect "living, breathing organisms". Every cop will tell you that full moons make for crazy nights and every L&D packs more beds into the nursery during the days surrounding full moons. These are two proven - even if not understood - instances of "planets affecting humans".

Astrologists don't say that 1/12 of the population is going to have the same day each day. They say that - according to the location of the various gravities involved in the earth's alignment with other planets - that like the tide, humans are affected. This occurs at birth because prior to birth, as Jake suggested, they are a part of the mother and subject to her just as the difference between a deep sea creature and a creature closer to the shore is subject to the different environments (say, tide vs. the pressure of the ocean). They suggest that a person who shares a certain sign with another person will have similar basic personality traits to the other people who share that sign (they do not say that these people will be exactly alike, and of course have their own formulas for showing how that happens and what those differences are likely to be). The only thing this has to do with what type of day that person will be having is that it is likely that two people who have similar personalities will make similar decisions.

Real Astrologers aren't fortune tellers, they are more like psychologists. If you want to read some impressive Astrology material, I suggest Linda Goodman. It's my dirty little secret to own several of her books. Instead of being vague, they are boldy specific. She also covers the question about the three outermost planets and (I think her books were written about thirty years ago) covers instances in which the same planet "rules" two different signs.

I'm not saying that this is fact. I'm just relating what the basis of it all is.

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#28172 - 08/09/09 01:40 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ceruleansteel]
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"Astrology is not a valid form of magical divination because it assumes causal relationship between events which are linked only very weakly if at all. As the relationship is very weak, astrology owes whatever success it has to the natural prescience of its practitioners and obscures its failures with imprecision, evasiveness and ambiguity." - Peter Carroll 'Liber LUX'
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#28176 - 08/09/09 02:18 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ankhhape]
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Hi Ankhhape,

When it comes to debunking astrology, there are probably better sources one could quote than Peter Carroll. He endorsed and continues to endorse all manner of pseudo-scientific claptrap that clouded and continues to cloud the minds of many Chaoists.

 Originally Posted By: Peter Carroll
"I usually advocate astrology persuasively to ordinary people but ridicule it to my magician friends."



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#28179 - 08/09/09 03:29 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: god.over.djinn]
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Police or hospitals having seemingly busier nights when there is a full moon is most likely a confirmation bias. These people will often tend to forget times when there was a full moon and things were less hectic than normal. They will often forget times where no full moon was present but things were busier than normal.

When Astrology was first created the constellations were in different positions than they are now. Hororscoopes are intentionally designed to be vauge and have the ability for broad interpretation. These too are an example of confirmation bias. People will tend to remember the few times their readings are accurate while forgetting all the other times they were inaccurate.
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#28182 - 08/09/09 03:59 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Personally I do think astrology is bullshit.

I don't see how a planet can have an effect on anyone.
If it is the magnetic field that affects, know that a lot of our household tools have a stronger magnetic effect than those planets. If it is gravity, the moon should dominate all people simply because it is closest and overrules all other.

Even the so called lunar effect has never been proven at all. Studies done have shown there is no special effect at all.

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The full moon has been linked to crime, suicide, mental illness, disasters, accidents, birthrates, fertility, and werewolves, among other things. Some people even buy and sell stocks according to phases of the moon, a method probably as successful as many others. Numerous studies have tried to find lunar effects. So far, the studies have failed to establish much of interest. Lunar effects that have been found have little or nothing to do with human behavior, e.g., the discovery of a slight effect of the moon on global temperature,* which in turn might have an effect on the growth of plants. Of course, there have been single studies here and there that have found correlations between various phases of the moon and this or that phenomenon, but nothing significant has been replicated sufficiently to warrant claiming a probable causal relationship.

Ivan Kelly, James Rotton and Roger Culver (1996) examined over 100 studies on lunar effects and concluded that the studies have failed to show a reliable and significant correlation (i.e., one not likely due to chance) between the full moon, or any other phase of the moon, and each of the following:

-the homicide rate
-traffic accidents
-crisis calls to police or fire stations
-domestic violence
-births of babies
-suicide
-major disasters
-casino payout rates
-assassinations
-kidnappings
-aggression by professional hockey players
-violence in prisons
-psychiatric admissions [one study found admissions were lowest during a full moon]
-agitated behavior by nursing home residents
-assaults
-gunshot wounds
-stabbings
-emergency room admissions
-behavioral outbursts of psychologically challenged rural adults
-lycanthropy
-vampirism
-alcoholism
-sleep walking
-epilepsy

If so many studies have failed to prove a significant correlation between the full moon and anything, why do so many people believe in these lunar myths? Kelly, Rotton, and Culver suspect four factors: media effects, folklore and tradition, misconceptions, and cognitive biases. A fifth factor should be considered, as well: communal reinforcement.


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#28185 - 08/09/09 04:35 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Diavolo]
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Quick reply to all:

I stated plainly that I was not purporting this to be fact, just clearing the air, so to say, and expressing what the top of the astrological food chain has to say...

Bobbikins:

I have given birth both in and out of a full moon and as you will recall, I had more than even the average criminal justice student's share of police ride-alongs. I have SEEN the full moon phenomena in action. Again, not saying that there is anything more than coincidence involved because I have no idea how to create an objective study to review it all, but just that it is not my experience that the phenome is bullshit. It may just be that people are so superstitious that they create the more intensified conditions themselves, but I have yet to think of a way to actually measure it all...

Astrology, however, is totally up in the air. I'm sure there is a way to make an objective study of it, but I've never been of the opinion that it was *that* important. I've made half-hearted comparisons of birthdays vs. criminal activity and things like that (that I have easy access to records to compare) but they have come to nothing and - personally - I have WAY more interesting things to geek out over.

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#28187 - 08/09/09 06:12 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ceruleansteel]
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I'm convinced I'm a sex god and I sure saw the phenomena in action too. I'm willing to create an objective study about it, so any hot females out there that want to participate, for the benefit of science of course, PM for an appointment. ;\)

I know what you wrote, I was just giving my opinion on astrology and lunar effects in general.

I do see astrology as an exploitation of insecurity. Even if one does their own reading. In that it does not differ too much from other forms of reading. Somewhere somewhen someone realized that by telling others what to do and put the source of this knowledge in the gods, stars, flight of birds or animal innards, one could benefit, either by status, cash or other favors. And as such, it kept on rolling. When doing so one can't be too specific of course, the more specific one becomes, the easier one fails and thus loses the benefits. I still have to see the first one to state; "Friday morning you'll receive a letter from the tax office which will force you to pay 1500$". It's always vague and as such highly interpretable by the victim.

I just hopped to the first site that does one of those 2cent predictions. This is mine for today.

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As the stars shift and change positions, you're one of the first people chosen for the team. All day long it seems that you're somehow on the right side of the line that separates insiders from outsiders. Don't be afraid to ask for something that you didn't think was possible yesterday -- it's still possible to get in on the ground floor of a new venture if you know how to work it. Later in the day someone shares a recent experience with those who'll benefit from the tale.


Even when those 2cent predictions are bullshit and likely generated by a computer, they do not differ from the yearly predictions the real astrologoons do. Even the birth calculations are so vague or general and, even if 20 parts of it are wrong, we tend to focus on that one that is right.

This is an interesting video from Derren Brown showing how funky it is for those being read.

Derren Brown Astrology

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#28189 - 08/09/09 06:31 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Diavolo]
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Like I said, I'm neither proving nor disproving, only informing.

And - granted, I'm drunk right now so may be mistaken but - I feel like I'm being baited somehow. I seem to recall saying that the basis was not to predict the future but to give understanding to basic personalities, according to those at the top of the astrology food chain...

Either way, I have said what I felt needed saying and believe it or not, this particular thread is not worth fighting for to me, as I have no opinion on it one way or the other. My only intention in posting was to inform one party who had questions. I informed; I move on. I'm not butthurt one way or the other regarding what the overall consensus is.

I also seem to recall saying, "I know I'm going to catch hell for this" or something similar...perhaps I'm psychic after all? HAHAHA!

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#28190 - 08/09/09 06:50 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ceruleansteel]
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I might have given the wrong impression but I am not baiting at all. I just gave my views and hijack your replies to do so. So don't consider anything I say as either baiting or attacking. This is 101 so overall I'm as tolerant as possible to anyone here.

Personally I don't believe that much in exploring the self due to random systems. The same goes for meditation if it comes to that. I do think the exploration and insight in oneself comes through confrontation, physically and mentally. I read somewhere in the past that the brain is in a state called "self-organized criticality" which implies it works very orderly but occasionally shifts into chaos. Like a sand avalanche it slowly builds up and then at one point collapses. New ideas or those strange thoughts that pop up are assumed to be caused by those neural avalanches. So a small part of me considers the option that special conditions might build up faster until those neural avalanches and as such, might -and this is a highly funky personal view- give some value to things like rituals. So those, which are a confrontation at mental or even physical levels, might indeed bring insights. Still, this mere idea feels pretty funky, even to myself. But it's one of those brainfarts that I might explore of cast away in time.

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#28206 - 08/09/09 10:13 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: god.over.djinn]
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Hello god.over.djinn,

Would you recommend reading Carroll though or are there better authors I could look into on the Chaos concept?

Thank you,
Ankhhape

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#28219 - 08/09/09 07:19 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ankhhape]
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You could also look into the following authors:
phil hine, philip farber, and stephen mace are good authors too.

Most stuff by christopher hyatt and don webb is good too.

Look over the other reading lists for more information.

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#28220 - 08/09/09 08:01 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Morgan]
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Not to do a one liner here but, those book lists on this forum are vast . . . man, I wouldn't know where to start!

Thanks for the suggestions, I will look into them.

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#28243 - 08/10/09 06:37 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: Ankhhape]
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 Originally Posted By: Ankhhape
Hello god.over.djinn,

Would you recommend reading Carroll though or are there better authors I could look into on the Chaos concept?

Thank you,
Ankhhape



Hi Ankhhape,

Well, there is recommend, and there is recommend. What I recommend is reading as much about everything as you can. This doesn't exclude Carroll - just take everything he says with a grain of salt.

It is worth noting that Carroll doesn't mention chaos magic in Liber Null. That appears to be a later development, as part of his whole pseudoscience schtick. I think that the early work contained in Liber Null is better. Very concise and full of practical ideas to experiment with; no extraneous "let's throw our critical thinking out the window and be mad scientists" bullshit. (Not more so than contemporaries such as LaVey, anyway.)

You asked specifically about "the Chaos concept". I personally don't recommend chaos magic; but if you would like to know about chaos theory, you could read James Gleik's popular book called "Chaos".


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#107215 - 06/20/16 10:23 AM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: god.over.djinn]
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I've been doing the markets of late and one of the items I have on my table are a couple of Ouija Boards.

I find people's reactions to them fun! Some try to warn me... Some get nostalgic and remember a time when they played with one. Many have stories or have at least heard stories and one older lady advised her daughter not to associate with people like me. I haven't sold one yet but I like having them on the table because they generate interest... Many people become curious to see what else I have.

I personally haven't had a lot of experience with them, and certainly nothing dramatic.

As for Tarot Cards, I believe they are a tool used to tap into our own sub-conscience. And I love the ancient teachings in them... One of the meaning in the Devil card is about our perception - the people in the card have yokes around their necks and feel enslaved by the Devil but they fail to realise that the yokes are large and could easily be lifted off over their heads. This is about addiction and other self-imposed limitations. Of course each card contains many life lessons.

As for astrology, I have never had a lot to do with it other than to read it in magazines for fun! I don't discount that it could have some merit though. I look at the moon and how it controls the oceanic tides... The Earth's surface is 70% water. A human is 70% water... So if the moon can have influence over one body of water, why not another? And if the moon can, than why not other celestial bodies? I have no proof and it is not my thing to be interested enough try to prove but I don't completely discount the possibility.

I don't buy into the moon affecting a woman's menstrual cycle however... I think the 28 day thing is just coincidence. Simply because we are not the only mammal that is 70% water and lives under the moon, and not all mammals have 28day cycles. Some only ovulate every nine months or once every 2yrs.
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#107225 - 06/20/16 08:49 PM Re: Ouija Boards [Re: ShadowLover]
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 Originally Posted By: SL
think the 28 day thing is just coincidence. Simply because we are not the only mammal that is 70% water and lives under the moon, and not all mammals have 28day cycles.
The moonlight makes for ideal night-time forging and harvesting. *shrugs* I don't suppose they'd want to attract nocturnal predators by free-bleeding all over the cabbage patch. 'Just a theory. I wasn't there, and do not own one of those clam-dangled contraptions.
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