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#116192 - 04/06/18 05:04 AM Re: Satsnism Reenvisioned [Re: SIN3]
Ateosoth Offline
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Satanism as such, envisioned by CoS, and viewed within that sociological perspective, was relevant and effective while certain kind of dualism was more sharply present within constrained consciousness of Western man. Now, while world is moving toward greater unification, liberalization, and while once sharp lines of old morality are now being blurred, Satanism naturally becomes more and more obsolete as a form, also being deprived of its shock value and controversy that fueled it for a while. Also, being mostly reactionary phenomenon opposed to traditional morals and worldviews of religious authority it is not the wonder that Satanism weakens with the weakening of that same authority. Satanism in such a form, was the antithesis within that, already mentioned, dialectical formula, and which is destined to be dissolved, along with the thesis, by the occurrence of the synthesis. In other words Satanism actually won the battle it started, so it is only logical that weapons used for achieving such a victory are now useless. Though not being declared Satanist, most of the people of the Western world are actually now living very satanically. "Satanically" as envisioned by LaVey and the like, and by all those preceding revolutionary groups and movements, mentioned by Mr. Aquino, that used Satan as an inspiration, a symbol while fighting exactly for the world we are now living in. Many things once considered to be a sin, evil, immoral, devil's work etc., are now either a norm or something tolerated and promoted. This form of Satanism, which is now on its deathbed, was and is just an exoteric form that never, on its own, had any esoteric substance. It had its esoteric purpose but within a greater perspective which goes beyond it.
The funny thing is that, during the period mentioned in initial post, mid 70's, Satanism was in fact reenvisioned and was given that lacking esoteric substance by the Order of Nine Angles, and within their Sinisterly-Numinous Tradition which encompasses both dark and light aspects of man and Nature, as well as it was given a new exoteric form, or rather inclination, through which it can become new, very lasting and very effective multiform (shape-shifting) antithesis, and where it is just means to an end (of individual and collective transformation). The true understanding of what the essence of Satanism is, beyond any form, can only be acquired and preserved within such genuinely esoteric traditions. Here, of course, I have in mind also many Orders spawning from older traditions predating Sinisterly-Numinous one, and some of those orders actually initiated creation of CoS and phenomenon of modern Satanism as an exoteric form employed for certain esoteric purposes. Now this form is dying out as fulfilling its purpose, but this doesn't mean that the very essence of Satanism would or could ever die out - this essence will be always safely kept and inherited within some of those genuine esoteric traditions. Just make your peace with the fact that every exoteric form has its life span, including modern Satanism.
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#116197 - 04/07/18 06:35 AM Re: Satsnism Reenvisioned [Re: Ateosoth]
Czereda Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Ateosoth
Now this form is dying out as fulfilling its purpose, but this doesn't mean that the very essence of Satanism would or could ever die out - this essence will be always safely kept and inherited within some of those genuine esoteric traditions. Just make your peace with the fact that every exoteric form has its life span, including modern Satanism.


Very wise words, Ateosoth. At last, there comes someone who is not blind. Those who whine that Satanism is dying either can't see the forest for all the trees there or pretend not to see it to manipulate fools into following them.
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#116202 - 04/09/18 11:15 AM Re: Satsnism Reenvisioned [Re: Ateosoth]
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 Originally Posted By: Ateosoth
Satanism as such, envisioned by CoS,


It wasn't. The CoS was merely a social club, still is. Whether active or registered, those counted among the rank and file can utilize the connection for networking, or ignore it and keep on living the LHP.

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and viewed within that sociological perspective,


It wasn't. It was merely repeated in sentiment by a Baby Boomer sick and tired of the status quo permeating society at that time, so he snubbed it further and made a show of it. One could argue it was a marketing ploy to attract numbers.



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was relevant and effective while certain kind of dualism was more sharply present within constrained consciousness of Western man.
As if that has just disappeared? Whether East or West?

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Now, while world is moving toward greater unification,


Ideology, nothing more. Such as this desired 'peace' people have been going on about since the 60's. It's Utopian at best. It will never be achieved because people are protective of their cultural identities and property.

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liberalization, and while once sharp lines of old morality are now being blurred, Satanism naturally becomes more and more obsolete as a form, ...
False. It would be more accurate to say, that the trendy notions of a shared morality are even more obtuse than ever before.


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also being deprived of its shock value and controversy that fueled it for a while. Also, being mostly reactionary phenomenon opposed to traditional morals and worldviews of religious authority it is not the wonder that Satanism weakens with the weakening of that same authority.
'Traditional Morals', are still in use across the globe, and aren't just framed within the Judeo-Christian world view. Even your run-of-the-mill 'Atheist' gets rather sanctimonious these days, even more so in this decade. So please...


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Satanism in such a form, was the antithesis within that, already mentioned, dialectical formula, and which is destined to be dissolved, along with the thesis, by the occurrence of the synthesis.


False. Word Soup. Taboo doesn't cease to exist simply because of your gross misunderstanding and over-simplification of human behaviors.

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In other words Satanism actually won the battle it started, so it is only logical that weapons used for achieving such a victory are now useless.


Oh? Is this perhaps the reason the TST has clung to it even more tightly while towing the lines of Abortion, Secularism, and all for the love of the children?

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Though not being declared Satanist, most of the people of the Western world are actually now living very satanically.
Actually, they're not.


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"Satanically" as envisioned by LaVey and the like, and by all those preceding revolutionary groups and movements, mentioned by Mr. Aquino, that used Satan as an inspiration, a symbol while fighting exactly for the world we are now living in. Many things once considered to be a sin, evil, immoral, devil's work etc., are now either a norm or something tolerated and promoted.


Oh? A fringe embrace does not a society make. This is why the U.S. still criminalizes prostitution, drug use, restricts armaments, and the abortion debate still rages on. Among other things...

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This form of Satanism, which is now on its deathbed, was and is just an exoteric form that never, on its own, had any esoteric substance.


That you seem to think so isn't really a shocker here. This form indeed....



It had its esoteric purpose but within a greater perspective which goes beyond it.
The funny thing is that, during the period mentioned in initial post, mid 70's, Satanism was in fact reenvisioned and was given that lacking esoteric substance by the Order of Nine Angles, and within their Sinisterly-Numinous Tradition which encompasses both dark and light aspects of man and Nature, as well as it was given a new exoteric form, or rather inclination, through which it can become new, very lasting and very effective multiform (shape-shifting) antithesis, and where it is just means to an end (of individual and collective transformation). The true understanding of what the essence of Satanism is, beyond any form, can only be acquired and preserved within such genuinely esoteric traditions. Here, of course, I have in mind also many Orders spawning from older traditions predating Sinisterly-Numinous one, and some of those orders actually initiated creation of CoS and phenomenon of modern Satanism as an exoteric form employed for certain esoteric purposes. Now this form is dying out as fulfilling its purpose, but this doesn't mean that the very essence of Satanism would or could ever die out - this essence will be always safely kept and inherited within some of those genuine esoteric traditions. Just make your peace with the fact that every exoteric form has its life span, including modern Satanism.
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