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#116567 - 07/13/18 11:20 PM Re: Princes of hell [Re: Dimitri]
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From a galactic viewpoint, that freedom comes with some keen responsibilities, once finding your belief system. Consequences are a given, positive or negative or purple.
Consequences are the fruits of your endeavors, and give a map toward farther reaches. When religiosity suits your purpose, embrace it as a means as you do here. Yet there will be disillusionment.

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#116572 - 07/16/18 04:34 PM Re: Princes of hell [Re: aeon6]
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 Originally Posted By: aeon6
From a galactic viewpoint, that freedom comes with some keen responsibilities, once finding your belief system. Consequences are a given, positive or negative or purple.
Consequences are the fruits of your endeavors, and give a map toward farther reaches. When religiosity suits your purpose, embrace it as a means as you do here. Yet there will be disillusionment.

http://www.hedweb.com



From reading the abstract on hedweb, I get the impression that to remove ones pain and suffering would be a negative thing. What if it removed empathy, sympathy, guilt, remorse etc. You likely won’t feel these unless you feel a degree of mental suffering to an idea or something you have witnessed. Wouldn’t that make the human race cold and potentially what we would view as evil? Because if you cannot feel pain or suffering then how would you know if you are causing it?

It would completely change our behaviour and who we are. If we ever met another species we could likely come across as evil to them as we would be able to comment evil acts because we have no feeling towards those acts other than positive emotions.

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#116573 - 07/17/18 04:30 AM Re: Princes of hell [Re: Stone14]
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I think to irradiate our ability to recognise pain and suffering would not irradiate the acts that cause it but it’s more likely they will become more prominent and extreme. We would probably wipe ourselves out and be happy about it.
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#116575 - 07/17/18 09:21 PM Re: Princes of hell [Re: Stone14]
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 Originally Posted By: Stone14
From reading the abstract on hedweb, I get the impression that to remove ones pain and suffering would be a negative thing. What if it removed empathy, sympathy, guilt, remorse etc. You likely won’t feel these unless you feel a degree of mental suffering to an idea or something you have witnessed. Wouldn’t that make the human race cold and potentially what we would view as evil? Because if you cannot feel pain or suffering then how would you know if you are causing it?


Isolating pain/suffering need not necessarily void one of empathy/sympathy. I trust that the latter can exist without the former as a root cause. Is this a paradox you can reconcile for yourself?

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Wouldn’t that make the human race cold and potentially what we would view as evil? Because if you cannot feel pain or suffering then how would you know if you are causing it?


Consider that what is “evil” or cold here may not be so in the vast elsewhere. What you espouse is the “wisdom of repugnance” or “yuck factor”, but social psychologists question whether that archaic instinct can serve any moral or logical value when removed from the context in which it was originally acquired.

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It would completely change our behaviour and who we are. If we ever met another species we could likely come across as evil to them as we would be able to comment evil acts because we have no feeling towards those acts other than positive emotions.


Isn’t that the point? To change our behavior and who we are would seem requisite to meeting other species. Wouldn’t you want more endearing qualities out of *them*? Hedweb is but one catalyst for evolutionary paradigm shift. Perhaps this shift will coincide with the earth’s imminent magnetic flip.

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I think to irradiate our ability to recognise pain and suffering would not irradiate the acts that cause it but it’s more likely they will become more prominent and extreme. We would probably wipe ourselves out and be happy about it.


Such fatalism might render you left behind.

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#116583 - 07/19/18 05:24 PM Re: Princes of hell [Re: Dimitri]
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Above...is heavens? A condition of lack of gravity could explain this. If you can't say what is above and what is below, it is easy to believe everything.
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#116585 - 07/19/18 09:49 PM Re: Princes of hell [Re: CanisMachina42]
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OK, there are 5. Behemoth, Samael, Leviathan, Lucifer and Gretchen (or Pamela, or Samantha, or Stephen). Each one is placed atop of the Pentagram (except for Gretchen ) then the circle is complete. It is of grave importance they are not put in alphabetical order, which could reflect the summoning. It is for the safety of the summoner, yet only for the duration of the summoning.
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#116893 - 08/26/18 06:48 PM Re: Princes of hell [Re: Stone14]
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A scripture written by a being that has the hands to scribe even one word is ok in my book.
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