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#116772 - 08/16/18 06:48 PM Asmedious is being a dick
XiaoGui17 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
You can...start a new thread, something like Asmedious is being a dick. I never ban for constructive criticism by the way \:\)

Sure.

Re this:
 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
 Originally Posted By: Dark Light 444
 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
Deleted by Asmedious
I'll also hazard a guess that the post was reported by MAA's #1 fanboi.
Who, me?
No one said it was you. ;\) But if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that bitch on.
You don't know as much as you believe that you do in this case.

...I didn't really think the post had been reported, but I couldn't resist dangling that bait. Just as I knew who "senior member on the receiving end of Dread dickery" was bound to be, I knew that if I made some glancing mention of MAA groupy-ism, a certain someone was going to take it personally.

Any and all comments on the nature of dickery, bannable and otherwise, are welcome.

This place has lacked transparency from the start. The blue room masqueraded as some sort of elite rank, a hellfire club of who's who. It was no more than a fig leaf for drama erupting behind the scenes. Consistently, people I respect kamikaze their accounts here. I can't see the carcass, but I can smell it and see the flies circling.
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#116777 - 08/17/18 12:46 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: XiaoGui17]
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This is not the government or a publicly held corporation. Transparency was never promised. Although I don't really know what you mean by it.

Edited by Asmedious (08/17/18 12:46 AM)
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#116779 - 08/17/18 05:27 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: XiaoGui17]
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"Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself."

Sounds familiar I hope.
Otherwise basic understanding of Satanism has been forelorn.

In other news, everyone has always been for himself.
You've got followers and you've got shakers.
The stronger person ends up higher.
It has always been the case.
No need to complain. That's how Satanism works.


Edited by Dimitri (08/17/18 05:30 AM)
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#116780 - 08/17/18 06:21 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: XiaoGui17]
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My understanding is that blatant disrespect directed towards a Familiar member or Moderator or Administrator was not tolerated here and was grounds for banning or suspension.

Why should an exception be made for Dan_Dread?

He, at one stage, was a Familiar here and enjoyed this respect/right/privilege as any other Familiars here should.

These rules need to be maintained. You sign up for the 600C, then you accept the damned rules.

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#116781 - 08/17/18 09:13 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17

Any and all comments on the nature of dickery, bannable and otherwise, are welcome.



I didn't get the feeling that Asmedious was being a dick. Mods for all the occultnik forums I read seem to have an understanding/policy about treating all TOS members/clergy -- as well as obvious fanboys -- with kid glove gentility. No matter how they behave in terms of personal rudeness or dogmatic ranting. Any participant in any of these forums calls out TOSser behavior at their own risk.

As I type, there is a quote from Asmedious in the Random Thoughts box about "another ONA retard". Yeah, it's not politically correct, but it's funny. And it's about a group that is considered an acceptable target.

Last year a group of fanboys set up their own online occultnik group and website. There is a pinned thread in their forums for linking to posts here where MAA "goes off on people" because that's like so awesome and stuff. Obviously occultnik initiation raises an individual's standards for inspirational reading. I guess. I'll admit I laughed when I saw that thread get pinned.


Finally, concerning the text of DD's censored post: I'm confused why typing a FOAD text at a pompous blowhard is ban-worthy. Is it because we all know -- because we've been told over and over and over -- that Aquino has a terminal illness? If so, that's funny, too. Because Aquino has mentioned more than once here that folks who don't share his metaphysical belief system are often afraid of Death. And the censoring of a FOAD post directed at an ill person seems to confirm that! Think about it. This guy is playing the 600 Club like a violin.


For me, there is no issue of dickishness. For me, this is about a master manipulator jerking people around.
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#116782 - 08/17/18 08:26 PM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: Asmedious]
XiaoGui17 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
"Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself."

That's more applicable to "I'm so hungover" than "Siskel & Ebert give this two thumbs down."

 Originally Posted By: Dark Magician
My understanding is that blatant disrespect directed towards a Familiar member or Moderator or Administrator was not tolerated here and was grounds for banning or suspension.

Since you've such a well-developed concept of the rules, perhaps you'd care to cogently define "blatant disrespect" and "Familiar"?

 Originally Posted By: Kori Houghton
I didn't get the feeling that Asmedious was being a dick.

I'm in no position to say; I didn't see Dread's post prior to removal. (Though unless it was a blatant dox, sincere threat, or revenge porno--none of which I'd expect--my eyebrow is firmly planted at my hairline.) But if Asmedious is going to supply that thread title, I'll use it for the lulz, especially when we're ironically discussing "blatant disrespect."

 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
Transparency was never promised.

Nah, but it's always appreciated.

 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
Although I don't really know what you mean by it.

Consistency, clarity, specificity. The Code of Hammurabi describes exactly what constitutes an offense, and exactly how many limbs or shekels you'd be out based on the severity of your offense and your relative caste to the offended. Hierarchical and brutal by modern sensibilities, but a big step forward in that one knew what was expected in no uncertain terms and there were limits to how authority could be wielded.

As it is and was, mods seem to make it up as they go along. Most of their calls make solid sense, but some seem to issue from some vague rule-that-must-not-be-spoken. Just name the sacred cows for what (or who) they are.
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#116783 - 08/17/18 10:54 PM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: XiaoGui17]
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XIAOGUI17:

Since you've such a well-developed concept of the rules, perhaps you'd care to cogently define "blatant disrespect" and "Familiar"?

I don’t have a well developed concept of the rules. The rules of the 600 Club are the rules of the 600 Club – my concept is irrelevant.

A Familiar’s user name is coloured blue

A Moderator’s user name is coloured green

An Adminstrator’s user name is coloured red

I am not required to define blatant disrespect in this place – that is the job of the Moderators and Administrators in this place.

I am a guest here only.

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#116784 - 08/18/18 06:09 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: XiaoGui17]
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"Blatant disrespect" would be if my reply to your post was, for example, "Shut up, you stupid cunt." Throwing insults at someone is likely to get you banned in most forums and it applies to all members, not only chosen ones. Two users here were suspended for insulting me. One by your idol, Fnord. Does that mean I'm a sacred cow?

As for consistency, a moderator is like a ticket controller. Sometimes, you get caught, at other times not. Life isn't fair and I haven't yet seen an internet forum that is. Generally, an administrator of a private network can ban users on his/her whim. You can either accept it or leave. Complaining that this is not fair is pointless. But hey, I know peeps who want to sue Facebook for locking their accounts. Perhaps, they delude themselves the legal system is fair?
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#116785 - 08/18/18 09:48 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: Czereda]
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It was Dread being the dick, most of us already know he is. His comment was useless other than to troll and create animosity. This forum has slowly degenerated into a purposeless flop-house. This has been enabled through the consistency of derogatory posts/comments. At one time members posted 'informative' things that spawned discussion, many of those members have up and left, others are either stifled or uncaring any more.

And it was me who reported Dick Dread . . . because fuck him and his comments.


Edited by Oxus (08/18/18 09:49 AM)

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#116786 - 08/18/18 01:36 PM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: Oxus]
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It's funny how some think that just because someone is connected to or an admirer of the TOS, that there's some sort of special treatment on forums.

It could just be that being a dick is still being a dick, and that brings its own end, every time.
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#116787 - 08/18/18 07:04 PM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: Oxus]
XiaoGui17 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Dark Magician
A Familiar’s user name is coloured blue

De jure abolished, de facto intact.

 Originally Posted By: Dark Magician
I am not required to define blatant disrespect in this place – that is the job of the Moderators and Administrators in this place.

If that's their job, they suck at it.

 Originally Posted By: Czereda
...your idol, Fnord.

Lolwut? I've not once swung off Fnord's sack even 1% as much as some do off Aquino's.

 Originally Posted By: Czereda
Complaining that this is not fair is pointless.

You've said "fair" thrice, which I never did. Funny how you read what you're capable of refuting instead of what I said.

My example, the Code of Hammurabi, ain't remotely fair. An upper caste gets a slap on the wrist for putting out a lower caste's eye; a lower caste gets his eye put out for looking at an upper caste funny. I recommended to be explicit, not egalitarian.

 Originally Posted By: Czereda
"Blatant disrespect" would be if my reply to your post was, for example, "Shut up, you stupid cunt."

Two things:
(1) That would be perfectly acceptable to say to some twat who was one mod login away from his own place in the Hall of Shame.
(2) That's a clearer violation of the one-liner rule than this new "blatant disrespect" standard.

Speaking of unfairness and the one-liner rule...

 Originally Posted By: Dark Light 444
It's funny how some think that just because someone is connected to or an admirer of the TOS, that there's some sort of special treatment on forums.

You did it again.

You don't receive any sort of special treatment, DL4. Dread did. One of the most-played tracks on Now That's What I Call BUTTHURT was near-constant bellyaching from non-"Familiars" about how the one-liner rule clearly did not apply to Dread. Dread was getting special treatment because he was special. He could contribute more content in 5 words than you could in 5,000.

 Originally Posted By: Oxus
It was Dread being the dick, most of us already know he is.

And how.

 Originally Posted By: Oxus
And it was me who reported Dick Dread . . . because fuck him and his comments.

Bahahahahahahaha!

I genuinely thought nobody reported that post. Guess I was right.
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#116788 - 08/18/18 07:56 PM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Quote:
I recommended to be explicit, not egalitarian.


And I said that the administrator of a private network can ban users on his/her whim.

Should be clear enough to you.

Even if you have a quasi official section, called Terms of Service, it's there to add the air of prestige and professionalism to the website rather than serve as a useful guide of conduct for anyone.

Basically, when it comes to practice, you can wipe your ass with it.

I would expect a long-standing member of Satanic inter webs to be much more cynical.


Edited by Czereda (08/18/18 07:57 PM)
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#116789 - 08/19/18 12:01 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: Czereda]
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This is a fun one.

Unlike many commenting, when I showed up The 600 club was already in the 5th act of its Shakespeare play.

Regardless, this just seems so inconsistent to do it for such a "par for the course" reason.

First off there was this thread:

http://www.the600club.com/topic111079-1.html

Then dig a little further back in time and you are left with these timeless quotes.

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
You will surely be missed. Your contributions here have been groundbreaking in the field of pedantry, and never before has anyone that has graced these boards been able to use an emoticon, like a ninja, to avoid almost any direct inquiry or request to support their own claims with the skill you have displayed in these years. Even in the face of direct evidence, and mockery, you have been stalwart in your unwavering religious claims. Like a rock.

Never again will we see the dedication you have shown over the years, informing everyone who would listen, and many that would not, what REALLY happened in 1975, and what a REAL Satanist is, as opposed to us pretenders that are so bored we simply had to latch on to the title you patently own just to spice up our horribly drab and boring lives.

Soon, you will be dead, and people will remember you.


And who can forget the quote that followed that one:

 Originally Posted By: LordBlyat
 Originally Posted By: Michael A.Aquino

This was of all the more interest to me because of Anton LaVey's, and his sycophants', perversion and prostitution of that term [and its patron] post-1975.


You're a pretentious, second rate, intellectual-faggot. Always have been:

 Quote:

4 6 3 8 A B K 2 4 A L G M O R 3 Y X 24 89 R P S T O V A L. What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest not; nor shalt thou know ever. There cometh one to follow thee: he shall expound it.

--AL II.76


Most people forget how pretentious you were. Fortunately Kori Houghton point out a few years ago that you actually pretended to have deciphered and expounded Verse 76... as of to pretend to be Crowley's "successor"... as if to say that you were the prophesied Prophet of the New Aeon of Horus... Set. As if to say that as prophet of the New Aeon you were empowered to proclaim the Word of the New Aeon [Xeper].

But I guess being Crowley's successor as Prophet of the New Aeon wasn't enough for a pretentious intellectual-faggot like you, huh?

You had to be all fucking goofy with your faggot pretentious self and make believe that your imaginary friend [Set] came to you one random night in 19 fucking 75 to give you the Church of Satan. As if to say that Satan himself gave you a "Mandate" to own Satanism and the Church of Satan.

You're a fucking Parasite. You have no real legitimate claim to either Crowley's shit or to LaVey's shit.

You're a Second Rate intellectual-faggot... a useful idiot to LaVey. That's all you intellectual-faggots are good for, to be useful to people like LaVey: those with the Charisma, those with popularity, those with self-marketing skills, those with originality.

It eats you away inside knowing that you're second rate, knowing that you can't and never will fill in LaVey's shoes. They're too big for you... you look like a Clown in them. A Clown.

You're Temple of Set is dead and irrelevant. In a decade you will be dead, and irrelevant to the next generation. And LaVey's shit will still continue.

Who the fuck is going to give a shit about you and your "teachings" 10 years from now? All that huffing and puffing, all your bloody cunt bleeding everywhere here about how Satanism is fucked up and how your Setianism is the real shit: did you no good. Why?

Because you're nobody without LaVey.

You stopped being anybody when LaVey passed away Aquino.

LaVey - like Crowley - left behind a Legacy. You know what you're legacy is: what you will be remembered for? You'll be remembered as that egghead intellectual-faggot who was useful to LaVey; someone LaVey used to help sell his image, brand, and institution.

You, that fat-fuck John Allee aka Lard Egan, and Tummy-Tom Blackwood, need to start a bitchy support group for wannabe LaVey successors. That way you have peers you can cry your bloody vagina with.

How was your 7 year sTroll down memory lane? You're such a drama queen Aquino. You have to tell the whole fucking world who you are ignoring, as if people give a fuck. You have to tell the whole world that you're leaving. You already made a grand fucking exit a couple years ago, and your old ass came back. This is your second grand exit.

Something tells me you'll be back: where the fuck are you going to go to? A Setian forum? Bwahaha! What Setians? Where? The 4 over at Religious Forums? LMAO!

What a loser you are. I bet you LaVey talked shit about you behind your geeky egghead back. I would; cuz I'm cool like that. And that's what cool people do: talk shit about the geeks that do our homework, behind there backs.

That's all you were to LaVey, and deep down inside you know it Aquino: you were that geek boy who didn't fit in anywhere. LaVey gave you a place to fit in, so you can do his homework for him. And now you think you're the shit. You're not: you never were.

You need to retire and go do what grampa people do. Enjoy life: you have 10 years left. Go fishing. Rent an RV and drive around America. Give up on trying to be the prophet of some new aeon. You suck at it.

By the way: David Myatt says: "Hi."


Anyway it is my opinion you can always tell what type of person you were by how you get treated at the end.

Like how faith couldn't save that God Is Not Dead parasite from ALS...
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#116790 - 08/19/18 12:26 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: CanisMachina42]
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I always thought a critics response says more about the critic then it does about who he's criticizing. Dread seems to be doing a lot of boot licking of Lavey while expressing regret that Aquino can't fill that void of being a shepherd that Dread seems to so desperately crave while whining about public perception. Not defending Aquino, but Dread just looks like a fucking idiot with this "critique." Like he's jealous for the attention or something. I'm a bit of an attention whore myself, but what's amusing is that it just looks like a guy with nothing left to say at a restaurant who got caught trying to score a free meal, and was just left cursing impotently at the matre de.

But maybe I'm missing the brilliance here. Perhaps this is just Play dough in disguise lol.

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#116791 - 08/19/18 12:43 AM Re: Asmedious is being a dick [Re: samowens84]
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I have to agree. Dread is just the epitome of "boot licker". We have been putting up with his OBVIOUS LeVay worship for a while now. It is pretty sad.

I think it's a cult of personality thing. The ones that AREN'T think they are, try really really hard to be, and thrive on that validation. Take that and reverse it for ones that have it.

Some just have charisma and some don't. That's what I think is at the center of this whole matter, and has been since the first edition.

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