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#5496 - 03/13/08 04:44 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: ta2zz]
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Please realize that tolerance is not a high priority in my beliefs… I write to amuse myself, force others to think, and waste some time while being what I consider constructive… This exercises my mind and allows me to learn many different things from the many different people here…


So you openly admit to doing nothing here but wasting time? I'm sure that is what Rick wants; a bulletin board full of time wasters. Ta2zz, you seem to be one of the most ignorant people here. You lack the basics of respect and tolerance. You don't contribute your own thoughts to peoples' threads, you simply waste bandwidth by posting the whole "I am inside your head" bullshit. Honestly, it's getting old and it's become dull and boring.

If you can find it within yourself to not attempt to besmirch a thread with your usual posts, and actually contribute to the thread like everyone else does -- then you'll probably gain the respect of those opposed to your philosophical views. This is an opinion board, not a we'll-attack-your-opinion board.

Not to mention, how about walking out your front door for a change and actually trying the crap you have on here on real people? Fearful of the consequences? You know damn well what the consequences would be, you lack the guts and glory to say half the things you do on here out in the real world.
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#5508 - 03/13/08 08:07 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz
Respect is not given freely it is best earned…

This was sent to me from a member on his past experience here… There is a lesson here that many should learn…

“It was {insert any name here} that finally did me in.

He was too stupid to understand the concept that just because I disagreed with him, didn’t mean that I disliked him. I began to realize that he was so wrapped up in the forum that he took everything said as extremely personal.

On my part, I realized that I was falling into the same trap. I was far to irritated about what some faceless person halfway across the world thought. A person who had no impact on my life what so ever.”


The lesson I see is there is nothing said here that should be taken that personal… Too many seem to take words on the internet too seriously… If something gets you miffed wait until you calm down and can write a reply without excessive emotion… If you are upset think to yourself is this because something that was said rings true? Learn from the experience… Learn about your own emotions if nothing else… As I myself do…

Nothing that does not have a direct effect on you or yours should irritate you…


These seem like wise words at first but they're not really ta2zz, they're just ignorance in many ways.

We live in a global world now, one where people are connected at the touch of a button. People can communicate and socialise with other people on the opposite side of the world as and when they choose. I am doing it now. I'm currently talking to a person in Australia, and why, because I like and respect this person.

Just because the medium you speak in grants you some anonymity doesn't make it any less valid. I make no effort to hide myself. My name is Billy McKenna, I live in Bangor in Wales, UK and I'm 22 years old. This is information anyone could find out in a few seconds searching on the internet. I am far too well known online for me to hide and I like it this way because it adds credence to what I say. People know I'm not just a nameless entity and that I actually mean what I write.

True what you say holds water. No-one on here directly effects your personal life, you career or your family life. HOWEVER, social interaction is the cornerstone of much of the needs of the standard person. Whether you choose to make it happen online or in the bar at the end of your road, surely people you identify as intelligent, particually those who share your ideas and opinions, are people who's judgement is of value to you. If they show disdain towards you does it not lessen you a little. It would for me.

The random spam writer who posts no-nothing posts means nothing to me. The average poster here is intelligent and respectful. I respect their opinions, ideas and judgement to a given level. I talk to them on a regular basis and on some level I consider them friends. I like to be considerate towards my friends and I like to think that they have respect and compassion towards me. It saddens me that you can be so blasé when it comes to the people here.

I agree not taking every post personally is sound advice. People are often much more crude, crass and definitive in what they write on the internet. There is a safty in it. But dismissing it in such a way is just as foolish and it makes your involvement in the community a waste of time.

If you see no value in the community or in this method of socialising at all then perhaps you should leave it behind, because those who you show no respect, not even common courtesy, will begin to ignore you opinions and ideas as you have theirs. It's already starting, but then, you don't care if these people ignore you do you. It's only the internet after all.
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#5509 - 03/13/08 08:22 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: TornadoCreator]
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 Originally Posted By: TornadoCreator
These seem like wise words at first but they're not really ta2zz, they're just ignorance in many ways.

We live in a global world now, one where people are connected at the touch of a button. People can communicate and socialise with other people on the opposite side of the world as and when they choose. I am doing it now. I'm currently talking to a person in Australia, and why, because I like and respect this person.

Just because the medium you speak in grants you some anonymity doesn't make it any less valid. I make no effort to hide myself. My name is Billy McKenna, I live in Bangor in Wales, UK and I'm 22 years old. This is information anyone could find out in a few seconds searching on the internet. I am far too well known online for me to hide and I like it this way because it adds credence to what I say. People know I'm not just a nameless entity and that I actually mean what I write.

True what you say holds water. No-one on here directly effects your personal life, you career or your family life. HOWEVER, social interaction is the cornerstone of much of the needs of the standard person. Whether you choose to make it happen online or in the bar at the end of your road, surely people you identify as intelligent, particually those who share your ideas and opinions, are people who's judgement is of value to you. If they show disdain towards you does it not lessen you a little. It would for me.

The random spam writer who posts no-nothing posts means nothing to me. The average poster here is intelligent and respectful. I respect their opinions, ideas and judgement to a given level. I talk to them on a regular basis and on some level I consider them friends. I like to be considerate towards my friends and I like to think that they have respect and compassion towards me. It saddens me that you can be so blasé when it comes to the people here.

I agree not taking every post personally is sound advice. People are often much more crude, crass and definitive in what they write on the internet. There is a safty in it. But dismissing it in such a way is just as foolish and it makes your involvement in the community a waste of time.

If you see no value in the community or in this method of socialising at all then perhaps you should leave it behind, because those who you show no respect, not even common courtesy, will begin to ignore you opinions and ideas as you have theirs. It's already starting, but then, you don't care is these people ignore you do you. It's only the internet after all.

Seconded.

There is a fine-line between social interaction and online socialising. The difference being is that people can hide themselves on here. I've been attacked several times because I don't disclose my name or true personal details on the Internet; for this I have good reason and my occupation alone practically forbids me from doing so. However, I also don't disclose personal information because that is of my own moral standards.

Ta2zz, you're probably an extremely intelligent bloke. You have written some wise-words in the past, but what you lack is respect and tolerance. It seems to me that you use the Internet as a scapegoat to publish your true feelings, or to boost your alter-ego because you know the only severe consequences of doing so are non-existant. You cannot be physically attacked on the Internet. That's the difference.

You claim to be an individual of 'intellect' -- but I see no difference between you and a gutless wonder. You would not say half the things you say on here out in the real world. Because, from my observations, you're extremely intimdated and weak-willed. You back-down from social situations that may put you in a position or bad situation that is uncomfortable or potentially dangerous to your own well-being.
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#5516 - 03/13/08 09:24 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: DaVinci]
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There is a fine-line between social interaction and online socialising. The difference being is that people can hide themselves on here. I've been attacked several times because I don't disclose my name or true personal details on the Internet; for this I have good reason and my occupation alone practically forbids me from doing so. However, I also don't disclose personal information because that is of my own moral standards.


ha this coming from you i finally fuigered out who you are davinci/ matthew/ previous name on this forum Ordellani befor you opened you fucking mouth to big and told a few to many lies that you couldnt back up mr ceo lets look at the facts from austrilia/in the military same bullshit lies same ,holier than thou attitude and what do i find when i go to Ordellani website the same fucking avatar you have on here i knew as soon as i saw that avatar i recognized the font just did not know from where, it was when i first went to your site to see if your bullshit held any water of course it did not you header and name where in that exact font. then you made the mistake of letting your key phrase slip out in recent post here (besmitching) right fucking then i knew. oh child you almsot had me fooled but you couldn stop saying besmitching could you

dont belive me that is the same lying sack of shit 600 club? look for your self this is his website http://www.ordellani.com/showthread.php?tid=41&pid=87#pid87

so you matthew have to come back under a new name,new identity like a fucking coward, do we mean that mutch to you child?

some of mathews claims http://www.the600club.com/dir/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2508/#Post2508

a little nostalgia child the very last thing i said to you befor you left never to be seen agian at least under the name
Ordellani and so the coward davinci was born.

heres a screenshot in case matthew decides to change his avatar beacuse of this post. http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1806/sneakyfuckvt1.jpg




how orgiginal a quote their mathew where have i heard that befor and befor and befor think of a new fucking catch phrase at least, ahh scicne you have shown your face i saw the site looks like a blog to me not the company you claimed it to be child where is this?

(Nice attempt to besmirch my name and the companies. Perhaps you could send that to our executive Head Programmers office in London, I'm sure it would be appreciated.

As far as I can see from your site, you have pseudo-artistic "templates" that look like they've been designed by a minor. Your art is ridiculous, and your petty character-attacks will and have accomplished you nothing.

I'm currently switching the servers for our site, and putting the portfolio up. I assure you, once you see the designs we've done, and who for, you'll fade back into obscurity once again.

Try again. )

still wating for your art and the so called company work so i can fade back into obscurty mr ceo, ah yes and i attacked your chachter beacuse you are a fraud when you need to lie aobut your achomplishments this tells me you are unhappy about your life and where you are ,and this to me is far from satanic i on the other hand am who i claim to be, so i leave you with this thought child, show me the work you claim mr ceo and stop using the same fucking lines besmirching, fuck when i was looking up your so called comapny on google all i had to do follow the besmirching comment and that exact phrase huddle with the sheep and no sign of your company other then at self help do it for free websites where your spewing the same banter that you have exebited here.memorize a few big words their child?


if any other 600 club memeber want a good laugh look up ordellani also self professed warlock of the Church of Satan or satanslitteone on myspace in google the amount of besmirching and huddle with the sheep is quite humours never mind that fact that you are ceo of fuck all.need a title mutch?

programers in london hA!!fucking poser the worst sort of sheep.
and you have the motherfucking nerve to try to insult my art and sucess when you have nothing your self and need to lie aobut it fuck you.
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#5518 - 03/13/08 09:46 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: rob_church]
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rob_church, considering your posts on this site I'm more inclined to not give a shit what you're saying than I normally would but here goes nothing. WHO GIVES A SHIT?

So DaVinci has started a company that is considerably less than sucessful by your standards and previously used the name Ordellani. I fail to see why this matters.

This is nothing but a blatent character attack and I see no problem with anything done in the past. Perhaps Da-llani or whatever hybrid we'll be using here has upset you but not me. DaVinci has been an interesting person to talk to and I have enjoyed the conversations, unlike yourself Rob. Ordellani seemed a bit pompous and full of himself. That was however almost a year ago, people change a great deal in a year. Assuming they are in fact the same person you seem reluctant to take this into account and judge a person based on who they are now.

I don't know if anything DaVinci says is true. It could be complete bullshit. Everything he's told me about his life could be a total lie. But who the fuck cares. I have enjoyed having someone interesting and intelligent to talk to and as I cannot verify anything said, and it has really no effect on my life either way, I'm willing to accept everything said as truth. Why the hell not.

In closing rob... Fuck Off!

I don't have the time or patience for people who want to come here to have there little penis mesuring contests and try to destory peoples character, labeling them as liers and frauds based of what I can see as little more than embellishment and exaggeration. We're all guilty of it to some extent. You're not important enough to make a stir here I'm afraid, now toddle off.
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#5519 - 03/13/08 09:50 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: rob_church]
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Rob Church,

I asure you for one that..

a) My name is not Matthew. Never has been, nor will I ever disclose my real name on the Internet.

b) You recognise an avatar. That is rather delighful of you. Now, I'm curious -- what would you do if it wasn't actually me? You have just thrusted yourself upon a band-wagon of unusual and trivial facts, and potentially lost the respect of your fellow posters.

c) The reason I disappeared is because I had to leave for work-related duties and had a nice little vacation in the Middle East. I sincerely apologise if you feel that is rather low and cowardice of me.

d) You swear alot. Do you lack the abilities to argue without the need for verbal profanity attacks? I understand you must be frustrated, it seems to have annoyed you to a remarkable point. I can honestly say I've never seen anyone get so worked-up over the Internet before.

e) Indeed. Design was one of my passionate hobbies before deployment, unfortunately I don't have the privilege of spending all my time on the Internet -- enough so that I can create theme after theme and templates.

f) No screenshot is necessary. I have nothing to hide; if honesty is something you cannot accept then perhaps you need a change of lifestyle - or an Athsma puffer.

I'll admit, you were so clever. You found me out. I'm the Big Bad Wolf. Tell me: where do you get such brilliant intelligence from? You're so incredibly remarkable and I'm honestly in a state of panic and shock. You can tell, right? After all, one who spends such time on the Internet chasing people must know the signs. One must know these things; being able to read-minds through a monitor. You have my vote for "da smartestestest kiddy ov da yr." It's quite an honour, you know.

In all honesty -- it seems the only thing available in your vocabulary is the word "besmirch" and/or "besmirching." You also attacked a quasi-company I used to co-own and operate. Unfortunately you know, I joined the Military and had to perform my duties to help support the National Interests of my country. I am such a coward. How revolting of me; I should be shot dead immediately -- and without trial.

As for coward, well, I've never been asked about my previous account. No one has confronted me, so I provided no response. Have I denied it? Absolutely not -- why is that? Because, much to your dismay I have nothing to hide. Do I sense a closet-case self-loather? Is your life that dull that you must spend and waste your time hunting down people on the Internet that you consider "frauds"? Oh, dear. The company didn't get as much business as your own. What an atrocity -- so instead of trying to support the 'little guy' we must attack and ridicule at bay! We're so tough.

I want to be just like you when I grow down.
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#5520 - 03/13/08 09:52 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Thanks, mate.
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#5521 - 03/13/08 09:53 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: TornadoCreator]
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ha mabey you are guilty of it come to think of it i have never seen a pic of you:) but i am everyhting i claim to be

it matters because he is fucking lier need . the fact he came in under a new identy alone say this mutch i fuigered you would be in here defending your new best bud so knwoelge has come to light and you are mad is not knowlege power dont you want to know that it is ordenlli so you can be better friends or worship at his feet?

and yes this is personal i pm him after that and gave him one chance i would not expose his lying ass if he told me the truth and he spit it back in my face so fuck him and fuck you tc
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#5522 - 03/13/08 09:54 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: rob_church]
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Oh Rob I fucking LOVE you. *runs up and gives him a great big fat kiss (no tongue)*

This guy has been bugging the fuck out of me with the shit he has been sprouting. The baseless shit that he can't back up like 'my Dad's a friend of Chopper Reads'. I've been in the process of writing to Chopper via his myspace trying to spring this little fuckwit in his own lies.

I knew it!

Ah man, you have just put the biggest fucking smile on my face!

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou.

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#5523 - 03/13/08 09:57 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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How is it possible to provide verification of real world activities on the Internet? Are you who you say you are? Are you really a mother? These are all questions that individuals will have during their time on the unearthed walls of the Internet. You can accuse and abuse at will, but it proves nothing.
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#5524 - 03/13/08 10:00 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: rob_church]
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its not that your company did not get as mutch bisness its that you claimed it somthing its not just as you have done with this new idenity. but you are right i shall waste no more time on you i have exposed you for the fraud you are i will let people do with that as they will.
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#5525 - 03/13/08 10:06 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: rob_church]
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New identity? I have said nothing on this account that I already haven't in my previous account. You're getting so worked up by words on the Internet. This is a rare treat for me, so I shall embrace it to its fullest. Please though, elaborate on how I am a fraud. I'm curious now and I don't think I can go on another day until you publicly explain it to me and everyone else on the 600 Club website exactly how it is I'm a "fraud."

People are free to make up their own opinions -- that is their right and privilege as an individual human being. But unfortunately, online activities don't affect my real life. You know, outside of your bedroom -- out the window kind of thing?
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#5526 - 03/13/08 10:16 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: DaVinci]
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It's quite easy to provide verification of real world activities if they are REAL DaVinci. It must however be a real conundrum if you are full of it, as you so obviously are.

LOL!

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#5527 - 03/13/08 10:19 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Indeed, it probably is easy to verify real world activities on the Internet -- but like you stated, why must I justify myself to people I converse with on the Internet? As you you distinctly stated..

"I do not, however, need to justify my worldly travels and friendships to you."
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#5529 - 03/13/08 10:28 AM Re: Fundamentalist Satanists [Re: rob_church]
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And yet still nothing has happened. DaVinci has not melted into a pile of technicolour goo at the fact that his major, (and remarkably uninteresting), secret is out in the open. Wooooo.

As for not seeing a picture of me, I'm planning on getting a webcam soon enough, when I do you'll see plenty of me as I'll likely be making a few YouTube vids, (I've been planning to for a while). If you do a google search you'll find pictures after a while I'm sure... they're not hard to find.


One picture from years back

Awful picture from my second year in uni.

You can find more if you look but I can't be assed.

Now please, com'on guys. Let's stop this stupid shit, we don't want the 600 club to become yet another cesspoll of forum nonscence.

And for the record. I defend whoever I think is right, reguardless of whether I like them, I just tend to get on well with people who are consistantly right and get on badly with people who don't like being wrong.
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