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#120612 - 10/25/19 09:34 PM Re: National Socialism [Re: aeon6]
samowens84 Offline
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No.

I'm not.

But ignorance has no power and so hating it is unnecessary.


Edited by samowens84 (10/25/19 09:36 PM)

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#120613 - 10/25/19 10:30 PM Re: National Socialism [Re: samowens84]
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If you insist.
I agree that hating ignorance is a waste, but to despise it is a different flavour for needed action. Putting tolerance to the test involves dealing now with you know what.

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#120617 - 10/26/19 08:19 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: aeon6]
samowens84 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: aeon6
If you insist.
I agree that hating ignorance is a waste, but to despise it is a different flavour for needed action. Putting tolerance to the test involves dealing now with you know what.


There's a difference between loving truth and despising ignorance.

For instance, a question you can think about if you want.

Do you care about getting better or are you only interested in looking for excuses to not get better?

That involves the peculiar position of despising the ignorance of those who may or may not understand you as a distraction from facing your own truth.

The logic is as follows, and this doesn't manifest anything, just want you to look at the logic on a mundane level.

If people don't understand you then you can afford to be stupid.

If no one lives up to the strength you need then you can afford to be self-destructive and cynical.

And of course this logic is stupid. Like a child looking for a parent to take care of them.

You probably know this, but sometimes truths need to be said. Growing up is deciding to be your own parent.

You have the ability to reject that logic and face your own truth with strength and claim your own personal honor in spite of other opinions of your character.

Whether you choose too is up to you.

You can choose to be stupid or wise with no one to blame but you.

You gotta know where you want to get too and look beyond people and be the strength and love you need. And accept the truths that others say, even if you think your a hypocrite, and take responsibility to live up to it instead to shame cynicism and hypocricy.

That's the best revenge. That takes real grit though.

The anger at hypocrites I find is rooted in deep rooted fear of moving beyond the comfort zone of people you might consider authority figures. Looking to find a womb to crawl back into because the world might seem too scary for you and perhaps resent when someone might suggest that you resist that impulse and create your own womb.

Healing vibrations in that genuine womb in the earth are naturally connected to people who's healing is naturally connected to your own, but when this is avoided it typically manifests into finding another place to express that natural impulse that lead to trying to heal those you might have no business healing.

People pleasing with no end game.

But the earth provides healing vibrations with healthy boundaries.

The earth provides rules of courtesy and self-respect that allows for people to respect and shield oneself from the toxic differences of others.

When this is avoided, one had previously lost the ability to trust that and instead relied on fusing and codependency that blurs those boundaries that may open you up to harm.

There's a very subtle distinction between healthy self respect and mutual healing, and temporarily comfortable self-destruction.

The "phoenix" path of death and rebirth is like skipping rocks across the pond. If the rock doesn't make it to shore, it sinks.




Edited by samowens84 (10/26/19 09:01 AM)

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#120618 - 10/26/19 09:40 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: samowens84]
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This whole "bros before hoes" made me laugh, because mostly I've only challenged a woman to do the right thing, and the "bro" was just a person who enabled them to avoid doing the right thing.

I may love you and know I'm not meant to be with you.

If such a person comes to me they won't find sex, but a gate for them to find themselves.

A gracious friendship, some undercurrent of romance. (Some experiences make that impossible to avoid.)

But you have a home you need to build. Bottom line, otherwise you'll end up homeless.

You're not a master or a slave.

I mean, if you're a leader.

People follow courage. People follow moral integrity.

I do sometimes get a vibe from you that seems to suggest you think you're too weak to do that. That anxiety and self-destructive energy will stay with you until you prove yourself wrong.

If you don't have that, you'll end up used up and alone.

On another note, I don't think you need to go to as deep of dark waters as I had too to get to the same place, but that potentially your sense of narcissism might associate what you think I gained with how much shit I had to take.

Narcissistic logic can fuck you every time.

Separate the need for glory from getting to a good place, and you'll be all right.

You taught me humility.

(Maybe it doesn't look like I'm showing it now, but perhaps all this is just my sense of protective instincts that seem to have been well formed over the past few years, but that doesn't make it wrong.)

Point is, that quietly navigating relationships and perhaps taking a more grey middle approach to healing your actual twin, not just your karmic one.

(If you wonder why I say these things to you so point blank its because you seem to have a self-toxic way of avoiding personal evolution unless someone just tells you. It's not that I think you're stupid, or don't already understand these things. It's that you're sometimes prone to weakness and getting stuck in a comfortable rut and needed someone to actually believe in you to get your but in gear, like someone did for me. I used to resent that person, until suddenly I started believing in myself and being more confident in my abilities.)





Edited by samowens84 (10/26/19 10:33 AM)

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#120639 - 10/27/19 04:54 PM Re: National Socialism [Re: samowens84]
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I'm glad you've got me more figured out than you have yourself.
Check mate. Because your function in any NS construct would be menial- or is it not already? You give a servile drift.

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#120640 - 10/27/19 05:12 PM Re: National Socialism [Re: aeon6]
samowens84 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: aeon6
I'm glad you've got me more figured out than you have yourself.
Check mate. Because your function in any NS construct would be menial- or is it not already? You give a servile drift.


If you imagine I don't, that's only because of the limitations of your own psychology, a personal need.

What that personal need is, that's your business.

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#120643 - 10/28/19 12:35 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: samowens84]
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Why is this guy still here.

I feel like the standards of this place have fallen so far the very last standard left has rusted away to nothing.

It's sad remembering what this place once was.
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#120644 - 10/28/19 12:44 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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lol... I know. This place died like back in 2012. It's now rotting, and the users here are just maggots. Did I say maggots? I meant faggots.

As a side note:

I was just thinking a moment ago, while I was making my coffee and trying to breathe out of my stuffed nose from allergies, that if God didn't make mouths for us, and we got the common cold where our nose was stuffed: it'd be a life and death situation. Because we'd have no mouth as an alternative means of respiration!

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#120645 - 10/28/19 09:45 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: Caladrius]
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What you said reminds me of a few years ago when I had a cold or something. Stuffy nose, but not only that I had a sore throat, maybe it was strep or something. I could actually feel and observe on the inside that my throat was beginning to swell a bit. Scary, and most likely not a fun way to die, plus I despise hospitals.

Only happened once in all my years. I suppose ears, nose, and throat are all connected so any or all of those could be affected. Once in a while my ears used to get fucked up from the common cold. Fluid gets in the middle ear and messes with your hearing, not anymore though.

I would think tea would be better than coffee. The Yerba Mate is pretty good. It's an alternative stimulant for those of us who have become tolerant to caffeine over the years.

So get well. I'm sure you still have a lot of writing to do.
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#120646 - 10/28/19 10:32 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: Spida]
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 Originally Posted By: Spida


So get well. I'm sure you still have a lot of writing to do.


Thank you Spida.

I enjoy reading your posts here. You're the only one here who's on the same wavelength as me! Observation. Verification. Replication.

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#120647 - 10/28/19 11:54 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: Caladrius]
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For allergies, I recommend a negative ion generator.

My late husband bought me a room-sized air cleaner with an optional generator for my cubicle in a "sick building" back in the 1980s. I still have it in my bedroom. Am considering another one for my office because my cat sleeps in there, and he snores something fierce when the weather is sunny, windy, and dry.

For allergy symptoms, I swear by green tea (or coffee), a single dose of 200 mg ibuprofen, and my negative ion generator.
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#120648 - 10/28/19 01:04 PM Re: National Socialism [Re: Caladrius]
aeon6 Offline
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Neti pot is very helpful.
But use purified water or you risk Naegleria fowleri, a brain eating amoeba.

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#120649 - 10/28/19 02:27 PM Re: National Socialism [Re: Caladrius]
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Considering this purely hypothetical situation I'd dare say many will survive.
Many talk from their ass anyways.
Shouldn't be too much of a stretch to have them breath the same way.
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#120650 - 10/28/19 02:33 PM Re: National Socialism [Re: Kori Houghton]
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Thank you everybody. I love green tea actually. I'll be fine!
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#120656 - 10/29/19 02:03 AM Re: National Socialism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Quote:
Why is this guy still here.

I feel like the standards of this place have fallen so far the very last standard left has rusted away to nothing.

It's sad remembering what this place once was.


Because everything that made it fun was deemed hurtful and/or unwanted bully behavior, rounded up, and flushed down a toilet of following along. For people ganging up on others, and most heinous of all, noticing differences.

Based on all that happened and the end result of everyone huffing freon, it is my determination it was killed deliberately for being an environment that thrived on belittling difference and underscoring mutual exclusion.  For that it was subversively condemned and destroyed from within.

Apart from that...

 Cult of Personalities are needed to bring life to places and make people want to post. 

Like it or not, You could bring back interest just by misanthropic style and being Dan Dread. (See Caladrius response) You said it yourself, you are interesting, and there needs to be an heir apparent to Diavolo for this site to return. Unfortuneately no one has come close. And if they could would they even want or take that role?

And those who do strive to be a cult of personality are so entitled, toxic, or annoying that it's more or less varying degrees of Samowens.

Sadly, that which could bring it back is the reason it was so easy to dismantle. (See world political stage for example)

Too much deference to where minds are like.
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