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#119291 - 05/30/19 05:47 PM Walls To Nowhere
CanisMachina42 Offline
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Registered: 08/10/13
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Loc: Ca
I live approximately 18 miles from the world's most violent city. With a homicide rate at 140/100,000  people it passed Caracas, Venezuela for that title in 2018.  As of April 1st this year there were 540 tallied by Tijuana Police.

Cartel violence has destroyed the less violent version of Baja, Mexico.

But you wouldn't know that looking over the border towards the transmission towers and multitude of high-rise residential developments residents can now afford.  The structures on each side of the border only differ in what language is on top, with no high rise development on the San Ysidro (US) side.

One of many pockets of condo construction in TJ

The economy has grown in proportion to the cartel violence. The payoffs, slush funds, and the many taquerias, bodegas, and farmacias what launder the money may be party responsible.

Standing seemingly apart from all this is a standard of living that is doable with a water treatment system.

The US federal minimum wage is  7.25/hour. Where it stands in places like Mississippi, Louisiana, and Kentucky.  

The Mexican minimum wage is 102.68/hour or in USD (at time of valuation) 5.10/hour. However, cities such as Cuidad Juarez, Nogales, Mexicali, Tecate, and Tijuana it is double the mexican national minimum at time of wage increase.

What this translates to is a sort of paradox.

In San Diego County the minimum wage is between 10.50 and 12.00/hour.  The average rent in the city proper is $1955/month for a one bedroom.

In Tijuana the minimum wage is 176.72/hour or 8.80/hour USD.  The average NEW 1 bedroom apartment is $500/Month, and that is considered "high". 

Too put it bluntly people in Tijuana make more and spend less than a resident of New Orleans, LA, where average rent is 1,120/month.

Poetically, the states that voted for Trump have a lower minimum wage and higher rent than Northern Mexico. This, at the same time they are more likely to be for the border wall to protect them from people who make more than them.

There is obviously money flowing into the Mexican Federal Government to increase wages to these levels, but it leaves you wondering what the drug economy adds. This is speculative. 

The ultimate thing to take away from this is:

WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A NEED FOR A BORDER WALL WHEN TIJUANA (if you can overlook a 1 in 714 chance of being murdered, massive government corruption, and a need for personal water treatment) HAS A BETTER STANDARD OF LIVING THAN THE US?

Of course a natural response to this is: "It's Central/South America that ruin it for Northern Mexico".  And this is true, but far overblown as a useful argument for an unnecessary few billion being spent.  Which isn't all that much, about the same as Trump's net worth.

The wall is the rock meant to keep tigers away, a specious project to combat a false dilemma. The cartels are also building and controlling several tunnels as we speak. The trope of a 21 foot ladder applied underground between the TJ bar and the US outlet store.

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DATA

States Ranked by Republican Party Affiliation and Minimum Wage

[Source: Pew Research Center 2014, Paycor.com 2019]

Key:

# Republican Majority 20% +
* Democrat Majority 1-19%
** Democrat Majority 20% +
◇ Exception for small business to pay lower minimum wage

Wyoming 57% #  -  $5.15 (yes, it is legal)
Utah 54% #   - $7.25
South Dakota 53% - $8.65
Alabama 52% - $7.25
North Dakota 50% - $7.25
Idaho 49% - $7.25
Montana 49% - $8.50
Tennessee 48% - $7.25
Nebraska 47% - $9.00 (2)
Arkansas 46% - $9.25 (2)
Kansas 46% - $7.25
Oklahoma 45% - $7.25
Kentucky  44% - $7.25
Mississippi  44% - $7.25
Virginia 43% - $7.25
West Virginia. 43% - $8.75
South Carolina  43% - $7.25
Wisconsin 42% - $7.25
Ohio 42% - $8.55
Indiana 42% - $7.25
----------------------------------------------------- Republican Line
North Carolina 41%  *  - $7.25
Missouri 41%  - $8.60
Louisiana 41% *  - $7.25
Colorado 41% * - $11.10
Georgia 41%  - $5.15 (see Wyoming)
Iowa 41%  - $7.25
Arizona 40%  -  $11.00 (1)(2)
Alaska 39%  -  $9.89 (2)
------------------------------------------------------ Democrat Line
Texas 39% *  - $7.25  (3)(4)(7)
Minnesota 39% *◇ - $9.65
Pennsylvania 39% * - $7.25 (7)
Nevada 37% * ◇ - $8.25 (7)
Florida 37% * - $8.46 (7)
New Mexico 37% * - $7.50 (7)
Maine 36% * - $11.00
New Hampshire 35% * - $7.25 (7)
Michigan 34% * -  $9.45
Washington 33% * -  $12.00
Illinois 33% * -  $8.25 (7)
Connecticut 32% * -  $10.10
Oregon 32% * -  $11.25 (5)
Maryland 31% **  - $10.10
Rhode Island 30% *  -  $10.50
New Jersey 30% ** - $8.85
California 30% * ◇  - $12.00
Vermont 29% *  - $10.78
Delaware 29% **  - $9.25 (6)
New York 28% **  - $11.10
Hawaii 28% **  - $10.10
Massachusetts 27% **  - $12.00
District of Columbia 11% **  - $14.00 (5)


Footnotes:

(1) Arizona is the only republican majority state currently over $10.00/hour
(2) The 4 Republican majority states above the exchange rate minimum wage of Tijuana ($8.80 USD)
(3) Texas HB 194 proposes wage increase to $15.00.  It would be the highest in the US.
(4) While Pew notes Texas rebuplican percentages at 39(R) - 40(D) in 2014, Gallup polls at 41(R) - 38(D) in 2017, a common discrepancy.
(5) As of July 1st, 2019
(6) As of October 1st, 2019
(7) The 7 Democrat majority states below the exchange rate minimum wage of Tijuana.

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#119292 - 05/31/19 10:37 AM Re: Walls To Nowhere [Re: CanisMachina42]
Kori Houghton Offline
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Registered: 11/23/15
Posts: 182
Loc: East Coast USA
I currently live in central PA. Except for the Democrat major metro areas, like Philly and Pittsburgh, the state is solid red. Like the saying goes, Alabama In Between.

In the 1990s, the area where I live now didn't qualify for a TJMAXX outlet store because the average woman's income was under $15K/year. At the same time, one of my antiques co-op colleagues farther east was trying to fill some accounts receivable positions at her day job that paid $20/hour. Even in the relatively inexpensive cost of living western exurbs of Philly, that was considered low pay.

The minimum wage in central PA mostly applies to women who work in customer service, retail, and offices -- essentially any job that would never (or rarely) be done by a man. Well, not done by a typical man in a red state.

One of the local school districts, considered to be one of the best in the state, has a no school bus policy and forbids the construction of sidewalks so children cannot walk to school. It's expected that women in the district will be married and unemployed, so they can drive the children to school. Parent-teacher conferences are scheduled during the workday, so that mothers can attend without taking attention away from husband and housework. Stepford is a real place!

My theory is the minimum wage here is used to herd women into marriage, which is unrelated to the whole border security issue.
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