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#120678 - 10/30/19 01:18 PM The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan
ukeju999 Offline
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hello to all there are online excuse my punctuation for I am not educated as most in this forum last night was the best night of my life I meant a real satanic she can believe in the aspect of infernal pacts and it was it's no coincidence that I stumbled upon a video on YouTube it was nothing the truth can I couldn't click off the video it was a couple of misconceptions she had about me she's right for the most part now I finally believe that I made a pact with Lucifer and I still believe that genuine but regardless of what I believe I handled everything extremely room extremely ignorant narcissistically very very disrespectful to the satanic brand levey name I believe in a lot of his ideas but I also believe a lot of the luciferian demonic ceremonial magic for I have seen results some may feel the results are trivial but they are perfect for me I'm basically let me hear I always wanted you feeling I always wanted to but doing things so wrong invoking chaos into my own life we're not even noticing that I was a troll I have became what I never was I was descending instead of ascending I give the credits of the prime Minister of the infernal empire for my realization but in reality it was mostly due in part to a true satanic anyway understand now that title is earned it is not merely taking my book reading video watching and causing destruction for that is pointless and worthless like the workings I was doing but I'm resilient and truly am naughty and having realization that that is not a satanic way truly embarrassing myself all that rage and chaos bringing those low frequencys I apologize for the rambling but I am truly apologizing to the left hand path community as a whole understand that things are not to be done just my way of without structure there is nothing now I will continue learning I'm not talking thank you to all and I love the unfeatured brutal honesty but I received for I would have been an idiot blabbering on the internet
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#120679 - 10/30/19 01:36 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: ukeju999]
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Not gonna read that whole thing. Saw the last line “idiot blabbering”—that’s all anyone need to know.
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#120680 - 10/30/19 01:52 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Dark Light 444]
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Hah.

When you first got here you were giving me shit for posting this kinda stuff.

Now look atcha ;\)

You're right tho..what a bowl of wilted word salad.
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#120681 - 10/30/19 05:03 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Well, at least it gets Alf to log on and give a shit for a few minutes.

Can this schizo shtick be saved with repetition?

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#120682 - 10/30/19 11:16 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Hmmm it's seems disrespect is held in high regard by some
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#120684 - 10/31/19 08:18 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: ukeju999]
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Why do you think you deserve respect?

For posting a wall of gibberish?

Please.

At least make an effort and separate it into paragraphs of gibberish next time, asshole.
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#120686 - 10/31/19 09:01 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
Why do you think you deserve respect?

For posting a wall of gibberish?

Please.

At least make an effort and separate it into paragraphs of gibberish next time, asshole.


It's tough fighting for your own ego and to sound sinister.

I don't know you, but you seemed to have been a person who hid behind a "sinister" profile and cowardly let others go down for you.

You never impressed me.

It takes courage to stand up for the innocent and corruption.

I've been well documented doing those things.

What about you? Or are you only interested in the approval of those who hate and envy you and tried to use your "good will" to bring you down as a weak link because of codependency.

It's one thing to do good for others, it's another not to respect your own boundaries and let others run all over you to get "respect."

You should learn to do that. To respect yourself in spite of what others think you "deserve" or to protect those you love in spite of the unhappiness of others.

The problem with codependency is that it often wanted to be with the lowest vibrations instead of helping others who those in low vibrations are capable of trusting without betrayal.

I suggest you read up on "The Talented Tenth" that was championed by W.E.B. Du Bois to know what I mean.

It's logical. And doesn't require codependent approval to understand or appreciate.



Edited by samowens84 (10/31/19 09:13 AM)

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#120687 - 10/31/19 10:09 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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You never impressed me.


You impress me by being a purrfect example of psychological projection. It's as if by pretending to be talking about someone else, you were actually giving yourself lectures. How to otherwise explain your replies having shit to do with the posts you're responding to? I'm reading your posts and keep scratching my head. Seriously, what the fuck? This guy has a mess in his head. Is this some sort of a therapeutic assignment meant to put your scrambled thoughts in order? Does your doctor read this forum?


Edited by Czereda (10/31/19 10:11 AM)
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#120688 - 10/31/19 10:24 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Czereda]
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 Originally Posted By: Czereda
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You never impressed me.


You impress me by being a purrfect example of psychological projection. It's as if by pretending to be talking about someone else, you were actually giving yourself lectures. How to otherwise explain your replies having shit to do with the posts you're responding to? I'm reading your posts and keep scratching my head. Seriously, what the fuck? This guy has a mess in his head. Is this some sort of a therapeutic assignment meant to put your scrambled thoughts in order? Does your doctor read this forum?


Sounds like I pushed a button.

Projection is one way to look at it, another is that you chose to respond which gave my analysis credibility, like a button was pushed and you were afraid others might see that the shoe fits and so tried to turn it around on me.

Projection can be a psychological defense against a truth I might not feel content with. In your case automatically assuming projection is a psychological defense to a truth that someone might pinpoint that may cut too close to the bone so that you can protect yourself from pain.

Almost every interaction can be tainted with psychological defense. But that's a logical fallacy.

Not to mention that psychology often can temporarily activate psychological defensive responses after the fact because human beings are wired to care about protecting status within group settings..

What might be true for me is likely true for you.

What this exchange is only mentions me speaking an uncomfortable challenge that you refused to engage by using a defense mechanism at superficial psychological observations that is, itself, a psychological defense. Which is itself a projection.

(An example of the psychological phenomenon I described is that some studies shown that those with no anxiety might find themselves anxious if they acted out the physical rituals normally associated with anxiety even when no trace of anxiety existed previously. As such I might have felt insecurities about projection after the fact because confronting someone is a social ritual that had often been associated with projection. It DOES NOT mean that the action itself was a projection, but only that the action produced social anxiety that might have created the illusion of such post hoc.)

But you know this. I only call it out just so you know you're not the only one who can wax psychological shit.

While some might admit to psychological discomfort and daring to speak truth anyway, others might accuse others of psychological discomfort might be too afraid to speak they're truth.

For example, this whole rant would have been put in check with a "you have a point, I did do A, B, or C, but this is where I'm at now" and that would have profited you more psychologically than to try to bounce your insecurities off of others.

To rise above and have personal satisfaction in being able to own your truth openly checks all conflict and creates more harmony while preserving integrity.

Even if it was or it wasn't, to push back for example might have assumed a codependent attitude forwards my opinion or the opinions of others where such codependency wouldn't have otherwise existed, whether or not my response was projection based or not.

Even if my response was off the mark, to respond defensively might also have the reverse effect of causing you personal anxiety that would create the kind of anxiety and fear that you tried to avoid, thus creating the psychological button that might not have existed previously.

At heart I believe that psychology, when stripped of these things only exists as the mind creates.

In other words, no psychological tensions exist when no psychological tension is acted out.

This is an act of will that can make you impervious to even truthful razor sharp psychological insights.

To understand how to control one's feelings through act of will takes the power away from me or others and puts the psychological power of one's emotions squarely in one's own control to will the psychological state you wish to feel, and to erase psychological discomfort that might be detrimental.



Edited by samowens84 (10/31/19 10:44 AM)

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#120689 - 10/31/19 10:26 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Czereda]
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Czereda: Yes, and all of his mush inducing sock puppet posts are more of the same as well. Yawn.
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#120691 - 10/31/19 01:03 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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There were two kinds of men in 2017. People who actually had guts and were willing to go to the ends of the Earth to protect their families, and pedophiles who just wanted to pretend to be family men just so they had a place to park their car like an imposter.

Women know how to tell the difference.

Abd they block such men from harming children. Because being a protective mother matters more than having a partner, or pleasing any outside groups.


Edited by samowens84 (10/31/19 01:28 PM)

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#120692 - 10/31/19 01:53 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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There were two kinds of men in 2017. People who actually had guts and were willing to go to the ends of the Earth to protect their families, and pedophiles who just wanted to pretend to be family men just so they had a place to park their car like an imposter.

Women know how to tell the difference.

Abd they block such men from harming children. Because being a protective mother matters more than having a partner, or pleasing any outside groups.


Lol. Did a black woman call you a child molestor?

So many other places to go with that quote.

But I am lazy today, so...

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#120693 - 10/31/19 03:20 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Defensive thinking can go two ways. What triggers a defensive thought is the fear of scarcity. The fear that if someone disapproves of a person's behavior would exclude a person from resources.

Knowing that others have junk in their past and that approval often has nothing to do with moral superiority.

Often the mistaken people sometimes make would be to invalidate the pain or perceptions of others, but that is impractical in the long run.

It's more productive to give others room to feel their pain. Because that's just often an expression of entitlement, expression of a story unrealized when how things work out didn't fit the narrative of what they believed society owed them. The basis of that entitlement can come from several ego centered places or from a place of pain and ignorance.

It could be that person thought they had a capitalist understanding of the world and thought exchange entitled them to compensation. That discovering certain sacrifices they thought were moral were in fact futile, and lacked self respect and we're degrading morally. And got mad that someone else knew better and avoided that path entirely and got what the previous person felt they deserved. And that person may had felt that all they had left was a ragged soul with an appropriate moral sickness that suited lack of wisdom.

Or then there's the opposite. Someone who genuinely suffered and were in pain and had an existential crisis regarding who got what they felt they deserve.

To react to either is inappropriate. Not everyone suffers the way others think they should. And at heart once stable most understand that punishment doesn't fix pain. Only the heart fixes and heals.

The pain of others who may have suffered because of my journey isn't much place to fix after a certain point.

Others have a story they tell themselves. To help is to listen. To understand where help can be given, or wanted, or if it's an attempt to use codependency as a sinister method.

For example, anyone who knows how to read will see that I didn't make any accusations, but positive affirmations of future preventions of human rights abuses.

I never mentioned a black woman make an accusation. So the method would be to create false responsibility. Which could only be an admition to fear of losing out. Perhaps also hoping others would think they were joking when others understand this to be a serious topic and genuinely care and agree with me that innocent and vulnerable citizens have more rights to be protected than pedophiles. And those with a history of harm have to work to fix themselves.

To make a joke out of it is in bad taste and stupid at the very least, and lacks good judgement without saying anything too harsh.

People can chose a better future and align with forgiveness in spite of past sickness, rather than false remorse.

A sick past doesn't define the future.

Understanding the nature of "judgmental" behavior as centered in their personal lack rather than moral judgement frees a person to define goodness as a personal struggle separate from the judgment of others.

Thus making statements like the above meaninglessness and irrelevant to anothers worth.

In many ways, an invisible statement designed to provoke a response.

But the wish to remain invisible on a subject as clearly uncontroversial as preventing human rights abuses while still desiring to provoke reveals lack of character on some level.

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#120694 - 11/01/19 06:29 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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Chronic pollution you are. No wonder 600 isn't what it once was.
Ever consider your role in that? No. You plow on with platitudes aiming to engratiate yourself and that is thee irony. That something like you procreates is atrocious, but that is the paradigm now so you become a bloated statistic in good company. Your peers.

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#120695 - 11/02/19 12:31 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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How much meth do you and your angel smoke?

Your LBM is worse than mine, and I didn't think that was possible. But I will ramble right back at you.

You are the worst kind of born-again. You should move to Banning, CA and sit atop a mountain and talk.

Sanctimonious pill, which is why it helps to skim or only read the first few lines and surmise the rest. If I was smart I wouldn't respond at all, but you remind me of someone I call Jen's Mom.

And your little response especially this phrase I skimmed screams that bitch.

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A sick past doesn't define the future.


Yes its all about self overcoming, Chatty Kathy. Now go go write a blog about how god's love is the path to inner peace at the same time you act like a putrid psychic vampire incapable of ever admitting you are wrong. And of course torturing your children for being gay despite your record in The Province of Alberta for a two year relationship with the 13-14 year old neighbor girl.

But to your credit I haven't seen you cry about some dead daughter "killed by a drunk driver" you make up to always live on the sympathy of others and play perpetual victim.

Still, you scream that same type of hypocrisy.

It is that same "I am here as god's special little savior" trip I can't take. One so sold on their own delusional bullshit that, like some AA Evangelical born-again they must spread that hope to the world.  A shit-peddler of the highest caliber with the projection of 'Cupid Me' providing the necessary distraction to the repressed sick fuck they thought they overcame with sanctimonious bullshit.

Your words are shit. Your drug-addled view of yourself is shit, and the only thing on this planet that could excuse your persona's existence is if "Samowens" is some petulant twat insight role, or even a type of social commentary on fallen standards.

Then by default your button pushing enters a realm of the manipulative adept and I am guessing extreme boredom.

And I really hope it is that. Otherwise you are a vile copy of one the most unfortunate creatures I have ever known.
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#120696 - 11/02/19 08:20 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Meth is a completely pointless drug in my estimation, unless of course you live your life like a porn movie. Marathon sprint fucking fuel, nothing more, nothing less.

I used Meth in college to stay up late and write papers, when I was 19, 20 years old. I cringe anymore at the veracity and lack of flow of those old writings—they were a lot like Samowens’ crap in some ways. Not the subject matter, but the mush mouth verbal diarrhea style of fitting as many words together as possible to make my word count quota. Absolute dross and of no value to anyone else, least of all to myself.

When I figured out that Meth had better uses, or actually just ONE use, to fuck and fuck as though my very dick depended on it, I made much better use of my time on it. 8 hour long fuck sessions with an extended, almost 30 minute long grinding orgasm? Oh, yes. Sign me the fuck up for some of that.

Sam still hasn’t found his dick yet. He’s still upset about his body. It’s okay. He’ll get it someday.
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#120697 - 11/02/19 10:51 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Dark Light 444]
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I don't know what hurt you're going through, but I hope you feel better.
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#120698 - 11/02/19 11:26 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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You’re a fucking idiot.
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#120699 - 11/02/19 11:46 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Dark Light 444]
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Getting emotional on someone online is another idiotic trait.
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#120700 - 11/02/19 05:22 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Sabrina27]
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You’re an idiot too.
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#120701 - 11/02/19 07:15 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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I don't know what hurt you're going through, but I hope you feel better.


Nice one line deflection. Why no longer so loquacious?

Ever seen Donnie Darko? You are firmly in the realm of Jim Cunningham.

You seem to to want to lump everything into two polarizing emotions, hurt and love. Lest you forget the sadomasochist, you really can't do that.

There is an entire category of retributive reasons to motivate a person. There is that meaningful "eye for eye" thing you seem heaven bent on decrying for making Baby Jesus cry, and that is my projection onto you.

So here is another answer. I have an urge to give you endless shit.  Mainly because you are EXACTLY the type to say, "That is because I come with a message of universal love". The typical thing after that is to use a standard cult tactic aof suggesting it is the damage of past traumas and fear that causes the disdain. Of course there is an answer for sale.

And that is more projection.

And now I will leave you with the feel good story of the day.

A worthless weird reject without charisma was motivated by frustration and loathing to rape and kill a college girl. Little bitch never heard of Reno, NV.

He gets caught and the frustrated pent up little bitch is exposed.

And here is the feel good part.

Families are allowed to attend arraignment hearings. Glorious retribution smiled upon the Father that day as security 'accidentally' let a gun into the courtroom.

Dear old dad stood up, and killed that weak piece of shit. Put the gun down. And dropped to his knees with his hands on his head.

Never seen a person so happy to get arrested for homicide. And it is the most beautiful 'law and order' ending there is.

But you may be right, he was moved by the love for his daughter, or should he show compassion for the inner hurt of the person that ruined his life?

You bring nothing this world needs or doesn't do naturally. And the hero of the story never regretted his actions.

Story even makes me tear up a bit.
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#120702 - 11/02/19 09:38 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Karma is about balance.

Guilt you may have about what you may imagine you deserve may be more leveled out and easier to deal with than you think, but your memories of pain you may or may not have caused may or may not create a thought form where you may attempt to curse yourself.


Often the balance of the universe comes at odds with human ideas of "punishment."

For example, you might find yourself suddenly able to walk away from the prison of karmic bonds, but may or may not be in danger of failing to do so because of what you feel you "deserve."

The psychology is similar to zoo animals who fail to escape from their cage even if the door is wide open.

Not that I'm comparing you in that way. You're a human being.

I'm only suggesting that possibly the only one holding you back from a good life is your own psychology.

People just want the relief of their humanity and what's best for their loved ones and really aren't interested in what you think you may or may not "deserve."

Whatever shame or guilt you may or may not feel, that's a private process for whether or not you're capable of forgiving yourself.

I hope you can, but that's on you.

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#120703 - 11/03/19 01:32 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: CanisMachina42]
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[quote=CanisMachina42]
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You bring nothing this world needs or doesn't do naturally.


This is projecting.

Why do you feel this way about yourself?

Of all the longwinded things you just said, it seemed like a roundabout way of saying you feel like you're nothing.

If you're not willing to do the right thing, then you're right, you are nothing.


Edited by samowens84 (11/03/19 01:33 AM)

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#120704 - 11/03/19 09:06 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: CanisMachina42]
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"You're projecting!"
"No, you're projecting!"
"No, you are!"
"No, U!"

Christ on a cracker.

I get that ignoring samowens isn't an effective strategy to get him to stop posting, because he's going to keep imagining people are directing their posts at him even when they aren't. (And declaring himself the savior of mankind with all the clout of Starscream declaring himself leader of the Decepticons every time Megatron stubs his toe.)

But those of us who have already put samowens on ignore keep seeing his stupid shit anyway because of all the other people that are arguing with him.

Is this what 600 Club is going to be, now? The half a dozen remaining members with two brain cells to rub together kicking around samowens like a hacky sack?
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#120705 - 11/03/19 11:31 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: XiaoGui17]
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If no one gives his sack a kick, samo will start replying to himself.

I am a relative newcomer here, so I'm not sure why 600 Club allows this person (not convinced that it's a dude) to add long rambling off topic comments to any threads that are generating a discussion.

The posting style, to me, suggests someone who is institutionalized.
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#120706 - 11/03/19 02:28 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: XiaoGui17]
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I am still halfway between the genuine exhibit and some discordian subversion.

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But those of us who have already put samowens on ignore keep seeing his stupid shit anyway because of all the other people that are arguing with him.


That doesn't stop the Muse of Meth and/or the goal of this subversion.

In the case of latter the lesson we all need to learn is that SIN3 would have been a great moderator and by not giving her that green account we have to now suffer Samowens whatever.

But that doesn't solve the immediate problem...

Have you ever read the book Sphere?

In order to preserve "the unkown entry event", and not destroy the novel through paradox, they have to agree to forget they ever encountered the magical space sphere.

If we all agree to put Samowens on ignore we can prevent paradox and allow the orb thing to exit the sunken spaceship and fly to an alien race that isn't so driven by paranoia, fear, and mistrust that they manifest nightmares and kill each-other off.

Mankind was not ready to be numinous. They were still too quick to take sides and accuse. The TV/Movie trope of cabin fever applies to this as well.

We must agree that we are not yet ready for Samowens, and his wisdom is just too otherworldly for man's conflict driven mind to embrace.

He was the sphere and we made threads of killer jelly fish with its offers.

Maybe in 300 years mankind will be ready for a non-hacky sack Samowens.
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#120707 - 11/03/19 02:38 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Despite all the shit-talking, he does seem to occupy the headspace of many.
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#120708 - 11/03/19 05:53 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Dimitri]
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The gamut of existence; the isolation and ridicule of an aspect thereof. How appropriate a setting for such an endeavor.
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#120709 - 11/04/19 03:02 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Spida]
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There was a guy on the other forum I was at a few months ago who had a very similar writing style as Sam Owens; also very high output. Needless to say, he was also ridiculed, but never expelled.

I always figured the dude just liked writing, a lot, and that his peculiar writing habits were due to that, plus the fact that they had a very limited internal knowledge base from which to draw from.

Something akin to skinning the same cat a thousand different ways, or preparing a plethora of meals using the same ingredients, because they are, simply, all you have to work with.

Maybe he could change his focus to something of (his own) interest that is a bit more academic, and acquire the relevant knowledge as needed.

I myself don't have issue with any of it at all, and like I said before, even if the poster in question sucks the responders can be quite entertaining.

I am also very good at ignoring stuff, and do not need any explicit feature to do so. I usually just read the first few lines, and then scroll to the good stuff. It works for me.

Given what I said, the guy is basically borderline which is why I guess the mods leave him be, for now, but yeah, that SIN3 chick would of booted his ass a long time ago, maybe mine as well, who knows.
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#120710 - 11/04/19 05:31 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Spida]
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7C2s1WHqsQ&list=RD33U8f9qRVr0&index=11

I'm not manifesting anything by posting that video, but just making a point.

I have love and respect people I meet as human beings as best I can wherever Im at, but love and romance relationships require you earn a certain amount of respect from me. Or at least strive to live up to the same values as me.

I wonder if a certain JfeMAle frIEnd of mine has the same courage and love for her people to take responsibility to build them up instead of looking for a more comfortable slavery for herself.

If the answer to that question is no, then she wouldn't have a chance with me, because her behavior would be transparent to me, and contemptuous to others.

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#120711 - 11/04/19 06:57 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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I usually ignore links.

I believe part of the problem is that you may be falsely under the impression that anyone gives a fuck about your verbose ideology, or, perspective.

This is a satanic forum. Why of all places would you come here and write in this particular manner?

I came from various occult forums, but felt I needed to make some adjustments while posting here. I felt this because I read the forum some, and roughly understood its format...

To adapt, I just avoided posting too much content that appeared out of context such as Qabalah, which is a secondary model, general science first as a foundation.

I can do the above because I have a basic understanding of such areas as general science and physics, and from there I would just speculate, extrapolate, and form analogies. So that gives me enough to write about for a while.

Your perspective is yours and yours alone. If it is wordy and uninteresting nobody has to give a shit about it, but because of your ego you may be deluded into believing that they do.
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#120712 - 11/04/19 08:45 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Spida]
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There are people who care on a personal level.

But congrats on being able to parrot the "satanic" party line.

And perhaps you do too, otherwise why waste a lecture on me?

Read what you wrote again and see if you understand it.


Edited by samowens84 (11/04/19 08:47 AM)

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#120713 - 11/04/19 11:49 AM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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In my journey Ive discovered something to do with relationships and oxytocin and it's relationship to responsibility and will and ethics.

A friend of mine once told me the ethical link between males and females and. She also mentioned that successfully navigating ethical lessons is how one becomes genuinely wealthy.

(She called herself a Libra to put this in the context of balance. For me, work speaks for itself and labels like that only tend to be more for outside opinions that give comfort to ignorance. That compartmentalization can either be used to limit the artist that society intended to label, or an emotional expression of those weaker than the artist.

Like "He/she was so unpredictable. But that happens when you try to control an artist."

The weaker person doing the labeling let go of trying to limit the number he artist, and the artist gets to openly embrace their freedom.

So it's freedom that breaks chains in both directions.

When an artist tries to chase the label of those weaker than him or herself, he or she would be chasing limitations that would have enslaved both the artist and the audience.

In other words, a label can either release expectations and be freeing, or increase expectations, and be limiting.

I learned from experience that when tightening my fist I potentially closed myself off to blessings, and when I opened up and relaxed I allowed blessings in. To put this in personal context I had occasionally closed myself off to things until I had the proper wisdom foundation to keep those blessings. For me creating a solid foundation for blessings through wisdom is more important. The lessons come first and the rewards come second. Ultimately I've found that labels only are relevant to a human beings perception of behavior, and that there is no necessary connection between the behavior and the label given. The more an individual accepts this disconnect, the more liberated an individual is from social judgement except in more natural responsible Dynamics relating to the performance of a person and the needs of an employer.

Do a good job, and let the employer decide if it fits their needs, and you get to decide if the employer's priorities fit yours. They have to fit you as much as you would have to fit them. It's their job to worry about whether you're a fit, and it's your job to be good at what you do and decide if they're a good fit for you. This allows me to not feel any pain at rejection, at least emotionally, because it's only.my job to fit with myself and I'll naturally gravitate to where I'm most naturally useful and appreciated. No pain, ultimately, just refinement.)

But back to the subject.

Human beings seem to be wired to need others and be connected. Much self judgment comes from feeling cut off from others, and much morbid reflection from the pains caused to others can potentially dominate the psyche, and when close to relationships it becomes clear how everyone has a past and those pains caused created illusions of false responsibility because those pains weren't put into proper interpersonal relationships between you and society.

And so some interpersonal context is necessary to make responsibility real.

One doesn't work on a bike just to break it before it's finished to give the repair person a job. You fix the bike so you can ride it. Otherwise all work is useless.

The danger of close relationships is that distance between you and your pain in the context of relationships can also nurture the delusion that youre not responsible for anyone because the relief from oxytocin can be so overwhelming and the darkness of self can by contrast have felt so threatening.

Now I'll mention how this relates to what my Libra friend mentioned about ethical relationships between males and females and in my personal context of the nature of wisdom.

Wisdom as Solomon mentioned in the Apocrypha in his book of wisdom an independent light that he preferred to light because in his day night had always followed day, but evil can never overcome wisdom. He also mentioned how wisdom was pure and a friend of humanity.

In my own experience being completely devoted to the well being of my family first strengthened my will to harmonize all concerns of the world that purified my spirit to attract wisdom and strengthened my will to an extreme degree.

With my relationships to women as an ethical foundation I discovered that as I fulfilled more and more of my ethical responsibilities to the women and family that I'm responsible for I found I could gain oxytocin directly from the earth as my responsibilities to the earth became less intense.

Meaning my need to use relationships to escape personal darkness has become largely unnecessary. We all need people to a certain degree. But with balance. But the company i keep has become less about needing to escape the inner me and more about nurturing the inner me.

And since relationships are no longer about escaping responsibility, I've been able to see relationships as a form of ethical balance. But this has to begin in the home, or else you have nothing to bring to the world. Which is why codependency in relationships is even more toxic because it gave temporary illusions that allowed society to pretend it was balanced.

Romantic foundations in my experience must be just as responsible as the foundation for greater social stability, meaning that ultimately men and women need to be equally accountable to each other, and neither one can dominate the other without both sexes experiencing unnatural oppression that would have destroyed society.

As personal evidence I've found that I'm not hurt at all by anything anyone says here because of the love I feel naturally. And so I'm not using this forum to escape personal darkness. Which would be stupid wouldn't it, given the nature of this forum.

Which is why the negativity here had nothing to feed on, which is likely why this place has become a lot more tame.

The endgame as I've understood it is to create a permanent personal foundation of love and light with a direct responsibility to the earth, and not on any one spouse.

If I push you away, my Libra friend, it's because it seems to me your just chasing oxytocin and cheating yourself out of something better with a permanent foundation you wouldn't owe to anyone but yourself, God and the earth.


Edited by samowens84 (11/04/19 12:11 PM)

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#120714 - 11/04/19 01:58 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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 Quote:
In my journey I have discovered God and the earth.


There, it is summarized for others now.

And also thanks for the oxytocin release.

You have now set yourself up admirably to both absolve your pablum and still play Jesus. 
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#120716 - 11/04/19 02:45 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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 Originally Posted By: samowens84

There are people who care on a personal level.

But congrats on being able to parrot the "satanic" party line.

And perhaps you do too, otherwise why waste a lecture on me?

Read what you wrote again and see if you understand it.


Honestly, I don't read the majority of your posts. So that puts me at a slight disadvantage, but I believe I get the gist of it. You appear to be out of context with the forum for the most part, hence all the turbulence. Some high ranking members also verify this by either ridiculing you or ignoring you.

I have an affinity for forming(or borrowing) analogies, and the first one that comes to mind is "a square peg in a round hole", or vice versa. Most forums have a general theme, and you appear to be somewhat out of alignment with all of it. Which makes sense if your intent is to create waves, but it seems more like an attempt in seeking others that relate to(or find sympathy within) your disjointed philosophy. No one here seems to be relating to you on a personal level which is why I say you are generally out of context.

I don't really care what you do. I have my own thread which I implement as a sort of blog, and that makes it easy for users to ignore me if they wish. You seem to be using the entire forum for this purpose, or at least that is part of the impression I get. Maybe I am wrong and should actually read all your posts to better understand, but I don't really care enough.

One element that does transcend all forums is humor. The more crafty and intelligent users are quite good implementing this at times. I should think about that aspect more myself.

In the end though, it's all just internet stuff, and it's real life that matters most, and just to reiterate once more, even though I don't read all of your posts, I do enjoy watching people fuck with you. So maybe you are akin to that special substance(or catalyst) that is tolerated but also best enjoyed in moderation, or relative to some, not at all.
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#120717 - 11/04/19 03:47 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: Spida]
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The context of a lot of my posts make sense in terms of work I do elsewhere.

And so this forum is for me one small part of a much larger context.

The users here who may or may not be more limited may or may not have their "feathers" ruffled.

Or perhaps they're willing accomplices who are "in the know."

You may be one of them, because your "black cat" thread was perfectly synchronous and helpful in context outside the forum in ways that I found most useful.

And as for the "gotcha" moment from Miss 42, she threw a bone that was more relevant for the more small minded members out there.

Whether he or she is small minded herself, I'll let her decide.

Two things I've noticed psychologically.

There's often a psychological connection between ideology adopted and the individual psychology of the adherent.

The stronger the individual, the more coherent the doctorine is lived and understood by the pupil is the best indicator of strength. The more an ideology is based on the rejection of something else or avoidance is the greatest indicator of weakness.

For example "I'd rather be feared than loved" in my experience can be best translated as that person found love too hard and to avoid feeling fragile and weak they adopted an ideology that reinforced an image of strength. Enough agreed with the cliche to evade critical thinking and perhaps made it easier to survive.

But it wasn't deep philosophy, it was parroted to survive to mask weakness.

The "I need to see it for myself" from a "scientist" rings hollow when there's plenty of evidence, and is then revealed to be an excuse for that person not wanting to do the work or being afraid to do the work for themselves but still have a cliche to avoid looking weak.

Less of an actual scientific Creed and more of a superficial method for saving face.

Want to get to know someone then you don't have to read their mind. Just look at how that person benefits materially in parroting the right cliche.

How this forum used to work. They didn't edge people out in order of who was the smartest, they said the most ignorant shit that got enough people on their side.

This forum is actually safer for honest intellectual exchange, and some still refuse to contribute to add productively to positive exchange.

That tells you how intellectually bankrupt some are for pining for the "good ole days."



Some would have liked to have the angst of the old forum back so that their stupidity might be less obvious and not have to contribute while social loafing off of SIN3.

*For those that do not know "social loafing" is a psychological term for when a group of participants feel no need to work and free to allow one person to carry them.

SIN3 provided that context in textbook fashion.

She tore other people down and is reasonably intelligent in a way that all the others had to do was cheer her on and not contribute and still gain some weird form of "credit."

The ones that may pine for her just miss her doing their work for them while they looked smart without doing anything.


And in spite of her fan club saying how much they "miss her," she still hasn't said shit.

I think that's her saying "fuck you."

Just a guess.

Or maybe she enjoys watching y'all squirm hoping she'll save you like Jesus.

(Thanks 42)

Analyzing it objectively.

She hasn't had to burn herself down like the phoenix with me up here like some of you might have had her do.

That's a self-interested motive.

She hasn't had to deal with you guys, and I have. This gave her a vacation.

Another self-interested motive.

As a bonus, she got to get off on a bunch of you squirming at having to step up in her absence and watching y'all fail.

Icing on the cake.

Seeing you guys not have a clue?

Even more fun.

Now the last two might be objectively true, and they might not.

But if you challenged them, you'd admit to being willing accomplices to my work.

Otherwise, you'd have to sit back and be content to look stupid on a forum, even if in private you know you're not.

And so she has people on this forum trapped intellectually like you had her put in spiritual jail.

A kind of revenge that helped her be more free.

Another motive.

Keep in mind this is my cold reading of the circumstances, not mind reading.

But in my experience cold reading tends to be more accurate.

IF this bruises a few egos, more points for her.



Edited by samowens84 (11/04/19 04:40 PM)

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#120718 - 11/04/19 04:05 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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You're a keen specimen for study because the social sciences have room for you. Some may call you an idiot savant, implying a saving grace somewhere in there, but is that the laurel you're resting on?
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#120728 - 11/05/19 05:10 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: aeon6]
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If your male twin flame is afraid to take responsibility to harmonize themselves with your values, make you feel noticed, and inspire devotion to you and your vision, then it doesn't matter what you do, you would have already been divided and conquered, no matter how you distract yourself or try to deflect blame elsewhere, the consequence of that weakness is the same.

Others tried to enslave you with that, not with bad karma.

Karma can always be healed, but a rift between males and females in a community is the true divide and conquer strategy.

If you don't heal this, then you're wasting your energy trying to undermine me. It wouldn't matter if you failed or succeeded in undermining me, that weakness would just get worse, and without me as a buffer, you'd fall even harder.

And you'd be wasting valuable energy that would be better spent healing broken trust between you and your spiritual husband.

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#120729 - 11/05/19 05:24 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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Then why engage me if I'm such a lost cause?
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#120730 - 11/05/19 06:00 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: aeon6]
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 Originally Posted By: aeon6
Then why engage me if I'm such a lost cause?


Did I say you were?

Only you can decide if you're lost.

My life has always been defined apart from having a spouse, or even a mother. Although I'm grateful for all those things.

I think you depend on women too much to validate your humanity, instead of holding women in your life accountable.

My take on you is if I'm reading you correctly is that you don't hold the women in your life accountable enough, and even though you think you're being respectful and deferential, you're really making them feel invisible and not challenging them to be the person they'd like to be and lifting them up instead of coasting.

My first wife first told me that she wanted a man to get her out of darkness and to challenge her when she got dark to bring her back to light. My mother told me that also in that men need to be the balance.

I did go through a period when I was alone in the world. My humanity was not dependent on anyone but my personal quest and doing the right thing.

There were no lovers. Almost no friends. It was just me, my determination and love to never let go.

That initiated me as a human being. All I had was my humamity and it showed me what a joke the rest of the world was for chasing shadows and parking spaces, and that being human was everything.

That kind of perspective gave me courage and love that I can't do justice describing here.

Point being you seem to be holding on to some identity that from my perspective means nothing, and sometimes too afraid to let go of that and find the best in you instead.

I've yet to see you do that.

You need to go through a time when you would rather die than give up your humanity.

Can you do that?

I went through that in the extreme, and it gave me a freedom and strength that nothing else can compare too, and without what I'm describing, you still haven't made it to the level of human being.


And you're right, I don't think you're a lost cause.

But your story has to be beyond my opinion.

Flattery is often used to redirect and soften a person's psychology. Noticing how your psychology is being attempted to be directed can inform you in precise terms the motives of others.


Asking for that kind of attention from me implies a weakness in your integrity that others may notice too, who think that paying you just the right amount of attention and job security was a convenient and easy method to corrupt you and your ethics and morality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSipW2Zg8Mw

There's a moral component to the song "Boulevard of Broken Dreams."

Some people here may think they'd learned these lessons, but it often seemed to me that you or others got so used to pointing out the flaws in others that it seemed to make you soft and weak.

It doesn't matter what you know.

If you're weak you need to learn it again.

And if you want me to tell you my opinion, it's that you got so used to entropy protecting you from actually having to fight for your values and things you care about, that made you weak and confused.

And if you dont have to fight for what you want, then you're nothing. Plain and simple.

I heard a comedian say that she was sooo clever not having to run a marathon.

How fulfilling is that to live an empty life?

I may have love for you and find soulfulness in your company, but this isn't going to be an excuse for you to lay down and die.

It doesn't matter how much love and attention I give you. If you don't take care of yourself, all the attention and love in the world won't save you.

I'd rather you find truth that would challenge you to get better, not attention that feeds a delusion that you don't have too.

And a woman friend who knew that I had nothing to lose except my humanity thought that I was the ideal person to bring you the humility you needed.

Your other weakness is that you often craved the validation of those of inferior moral character than you.

That's always disturbed me, that you didn't seem to live your own worth.

Your genuine humility and love became a sad cover for letting your craving for security to overwhelm your moral courage to stand up for what you know is right.


Edited by samowens84 (11/05/19 06:56 PM)

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#120732 - 11/05/19 07:01 PM Re: The rebirth tree sap my and disrespect for Satan [Re: samowens84]
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Unless your spiritual house is earned directly from your own will, the light from others will only have temporary relief followed by dissolutioning pain.

No house that doesn't come directly from you can ever be truly yours.

And you deserve better than that.

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