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#12895 - 10/19/08 07:56 PM MCoS
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Does anyone know anything about THESE guys?
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#12898 - 10/19/08 08:28 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dan_Dread]
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I don't. But it looks interesting. I see some of the members here are members there.
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#12900 - 10/19/08 08:50 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Haven't heard of them before.

Going by the posts and topics of the forum members/mods, sounds like a more laid-back, fluffy version of what we have here. The members seem to be people that would be fun to hang out with though. Interesting site as well.
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#12906 - 10/20/08 12:19 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Nemesis]
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they seem to have noticed the 600 club. theres a thread concerning "us", pointing out the differences between their own playfulness and our more pretentious seriousness. which i completely agree with.

but then we also dont have stock photos of goth babes and tattooed hipsters all over our home page(s).

you know what... fuck them in their happy-go-lucky humanistic Atheism live and let live asses. i am so tired of watered down bullshit myspace Satanism.

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#12907 - 10/20/08 12:59 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Bacchae]
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"The 600 Club is mean, whaaaa!"

What a bunch of thumb suckers.

Yes, every assclown with black eyeliner sporting Hot Topic wear thinks they are a 'satanist' because they said so.

Read "Might Makes Right" and get back to me. If the work 'speaks' to you then you are most definitely on the Left Hand Path. If you don't get it then just stick to smoking clove cigarettes and trying to look cool.

My wife goes throught this all the time. She is covered with tattoos and looks 'funky.' I have no tattoos and look completely 'normal.' She is fairly conservative and somewhat prudish. I am raving libertine and with flair for the sociopathic. She is always trying to explain to people that I am the strange one.

A sheep in dark clothes is still just a sheep.
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#12913 - 10/20/08 03:14 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Fist]
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Something that I find interesting is this perception that this site is full of 100% LaVeyen Satanists.

I don't find this at all. There are many here who have expanded on LaVey and really don't think all that much of him.

Am I the only one that doesn't see this site as totally LaVeyen?

As for the bitch fighting, notice it doesn't last any longer than the particular piss ant that starts it.

I loved the one saying "I'm pissing them off but they can't ban me because I'm not breaking the rules" like thats the moderators meaning in life to ban people. That gave me a good belly laugh, something I often get here.

I think the funniest thing is that this site is held up all the time as the one to 'beat' or 'compete' with. When really, who gives a shit. Be a member on as many sites as you need to. Hell I'm a member of several really different sites, poker ones, motorbike ones and breast cancer ones, then this one, all give me something different. I don't compare them with each other.

If people aren't liked or thought to be soooooo clever, they always get so defensive and arse hurt about it. You're not going to be the cleverest person everywhere you go, get over it. It's not a cleverer competition. Learn from everything....

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#12920 - 10/20/08 04:06 AM Re: MCoS [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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I am a Laveyan Satanist, But only to a certain existent.
In that I mean that I follow some of his basic beliefs and have some different views. Not a soul sees eye to eye on everything. Human nature should have taught us all that.This may seem odd to same. But I am use to being the outsider of the outsider. Been that way sense I was a child.


Edited by BloodHorn (10/20/08 04:09 AM)
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#12921 - 10/20/08 04:10 AM Re: MCoS [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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I'm one of them. I like them very much. It is more laid back. They have a great sense of humor. They are pretty critical in general of this place, but none have really given it a chance.

My one real criticism of them is that they don't take any steps to warn or ban people that need it. Fortunately those seem to go away pretty quickly on their own, so it still works out.

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#12929 - 10/20/08 08:20 AM Re: MCoS [Re: coelentrate]
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Posted by Andrei who apparently couldn't hack it here for more than 3 weeks:

Posted June 11th
"Is anyone else here a member of the 600 Club? I just joined, and it seems there is some pretty interesting and intense discussion, but... at the same time, I don't feel the welcoming or playful air that this place has. It looks like fun though, if I can warm up to the waters."

Posted July 4th
"Okay, I'm dipping out of the 600 Club. They seem like a bunch of pretentious, anal retentive assholes that are too busy with making the First Satanic Church into one big pissing contest. Some interesting conversation, no doubt, but I want to actually be on a path of SELF-REALIZATION, not bicker with a bunch of fucking prima donnas.

Soooo yeah... Hail Satan, Hail the MCoS- the best organization serving our Dark Lord!"


Quite right, Zeph--they seem to think we're all LaVeyan here....they must not have bothered to read our responses to posts concerning him.

I might lurk at their "Grotto Forum" just to amuse myself though.
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#12938 - 10/20/08 02:11 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Nemesis]
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I'm one of them to. I must say, these 2 forums are quite the same.. maybe with the exception that at the MCoS we are not so quickly banning people. We are a bit more laid back and I would also like to scrub away the comment about
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Quite right, Zeph--they seem to think we're all LaVeyan here

. If i'm not mistaking it was written by some fluff who didn't know about it up here. At overall most seem to know about this place of have taken a few looks.

Anyway, great place to be if you are willing to discuss on a laid back atmosphere. Tough, I must admit sometimes it bores me how some people who are new their don't really have a clue what's it all about. But as a person who knows both sides, I must say they both are quite the same in general. So no need to piss off unless you are a bit of a redneck who wants to be famous for his idiocy.
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#12942 - 10/20/08 02:48 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dimitri]
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I don't think there has ever been a ban here without a good reason. Hell, I even agree with my bans in the past. Some people might think that some are banned too fast but most hitting the ban-button hang out around a decade here, so you can assume that if they take out the trash, they know why and when.

And of course, people getting banned or feeling violated at one forum most of the time run off to another and share their pain. It's a human reaction, there has to be a bad guy and it's way easier to point the finger at another instead of pondering if they weren't the problem.

The era of the great satanic wars is over, it was fun to witness in the past, hell, participate and stir up things was even fun but it's a from another period. Let them all be happy and jolly at their spot.

I checked out their place a bit; loading times suck a bit. It isn't my cup a tea. I've always been a 600 guy, don't ask me why. This place is like the mothership I return to, even if I suffer from periods of disinterest or plain hatred towards it at times.

It's probably the other dinosaurs that still frequent or inhabit this place. The new generations don't seem to be able to thrill me too much.

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#12943 - 10/20/08 03:23 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dimitri]
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The banning that happens here increases in frequency when the site gets a lot of traffic. People who join expecting to be warmly embraced are often left on the curb because they lack the respect to read and adhere to the rules. Many can't come to grips with the idea that, "Hey, not everyone wants to be my friend!" *gasp*, that mutual respect must be given before any sort of friendship can form. So trust me, we always give people a chance or three (sometimes more than that which is too many), usually with both public and private warnings. When someone continually shits on your porch, whether it be idiocy, disrespect or outright attacks, they have to go. Being a Satanist means being the best of the best, not stooping to everyone else's standard of "good enough".
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#12946 - 10/20/08 04:31 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Nemesis]
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Yep, just look at how short the list of banned users is.
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#12948 - 10/20/08 04:40 PM Re: MCoS [Re: coelentrate]
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Well, it's pretty short due to the site being down for all of last summer. The list that got nixed on the previous Hall of Shame was a bit longer. Believe it or not, the mods on this most recent incarnation of this site are more tolerant than those that came before. Not that that's always a plus in our favor among our members ;\) But we do our best, and there's always room to improve.
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#12954 - 10/20/08 05:35 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Nemesis]
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That site looks like just an alternative to this one. It had a lighter air that some people find more appealing. I see nothing wrong with them, they are entitled to say what they want and feel how they do. They seem like just a way to dissociate themselves from any negativity brought on by mainstream satanists who just say they are to be cool. I know exactly the kind of person who leads them to this disengagement from the CoS.
My ex girlfriend who one day decided to buy a Pentagram necklace and add the adjective satanic onto everything she talked about. When I asked her what kind of satanic she was claiming to be (since she told everyone, including my current girlfriend who knows I'm Laveyan satanist, that she is now satanic) all I got was a confused response. I'm not sure if she was serious or not, or whether her idea of satanic is theistic or Levayan or something else. But to have someone claim to be the same (nominally) religion as me, then act like a flaming idiot about it, that annoys me.
So yea, this so called modern Satanism is just a new division who claims to be an alternative, rather than arrogantly claim to be "true" Satanism. It seems to be suited to fit in more than some of the practiced rituals of others.

Let them be, let them speak, but if they set foot on our beloved site, let them step carefully.
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#12983 - 10/20/08 09:19 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Phaethon]
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It seems safe enough.

I will admit that our own site does seem a bit more rough-around-the-edges, and that there are some members, who- while being intelligent- take themselves far too seriously and just need to chill the fuck out and remove the stick lodged in their asses.

That said, the internet is all about finding a balance between intellectually secure elitism, and laid-back sedition. Whatever floats your boat, I guess. I prefer a mix of both.
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#12985 - 10/20/08 09:29 PM Re: MCoS [Re: The Zebu]
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*Take themselves far too seriously and just need to chill the fuck out and remove the stick lodged in their asses.*
I know I'm one of those people, And I am working on it. I guess it spawned from the fact my whole life people have just attacked me unmercifully, And I need to get use to people disagreeing with me but not trying to put me down or whatever.
So I apologize to those people that I kinda snap at but they didn't mean harm in what they say.
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#12998 - 10/20/08 10:16 PM Re: MCoS [Re: BloodHorn]
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I really don't get the 'just chill out and be more tolerant' attitude I see around these days. For fucks sakes, we are supposed to be Satanists. If we can't take ourselves seriously how the fuck do we expect anyone else to?
I am really getting sick of all the 'live and let live' bullshit within the Satanic 'community' All the haughty indignation thrown around because someone would dare make a judgment at the expense of anyone elses sacred beliefs seriously makes me want to PUKE.
The fact that there seems to be less of that here than other boards is why I stay, but less certainly isn't none.
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#12999 - 10/20/08 10:18 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Amen brother. Fuck people and their stupid feelings.
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#13004 - 10/20/08 10:27 PM Re: MCoS [Re: blsk]
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And on the subject of the MCoS and the view that the 600 club members are somehow more Pretentiousness..well I don't see any 'degrees' of rank to be earned here. I also don't see this board referring to itself as it's own 'church'

'Nuff said.
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#13040 - 10/21/08 02:26 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Dan_Dread]
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I was actually a member of the MCoS for a while. I found that there were a couple of decent people on the board but they were few and far between. After a couple of months, they seemed to stop posting even.

I got chastized by the board moderator a few times for being too "extreme" in my views. Not sure what was so extreme about my posts but whatever.

I ended up leaving the "church" because I found just way too much political correctness and tolerance among it's members. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't wanna be telling anyone else how to be a Satanist, but without some kind of hard and fast definitions of what a Satanist is and isn't, the term doesn't mean fuck all.

I just couldn't believe some of the people they allowed to stay on that board either...whatever happened to quality over quantity?

Ah well, they can do what they like, I'm done with them.
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#13041 - 10/21/08 02:41 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Yeah we never refered to ourselves as a church here, it's always been a free environment for satanists although I admit that the theistic brothers mostly end up having a bad time. But hey, if you believe Lucy is real, don't expect others to say amen to that.

I agree that we don't need to be more tolerant. I have my ideas, you have yours and let them goddamn clash if they clash. It's at both our advantage. If you wanna walk with the adversary, be the adversary. Believe it or not, but that's the only way to advance. And yes, at times people get a little bit harsh but it's only words and as far as I know, only psychiatric cases can be killed by words. I've never seen a stable man or woman turn into a gibbering wreck because someone disagreed with them.

Some subjects I don't mingle in, I am totally against the whole occult/magick part of Satanism and decided long ago that even when I disagree completely and can back about everything up with pretty decent arguments, there is nothing to gain from continuously arguing there. So it's off limits for me, if not only for the status-quo on the board. But all the rest is free game for me and if I want to attack an opinion, I will. Some people just have a problem to seeing the difference between an attack on an opinion and an attack on them.

The other board doesn't bother me; it sure is an improvement from the yahoo-satanists but it feels a bit like a copy from a copy. The libertines part of it makes me frown; I don't know what to think of it but hey, it's their choice. If I had invest energy in what others do on the web, I wouldn't have free time left.

The idea that we're all Laveyans, I don't know where they got it from. Maybe because we're somewhat closer affiliated with the FSC nowadays but to be honest, I wouldn't have known if they didn't tell me. Personally I think nowhere Laveyan Satanism has been analysed and critisized more than here.

D.

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#13048 - 10/21/08 04:20 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Diavolo]
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I had that question about their ranking thing too. The whole libertine thing is not what it first appears. It's not a ranking system, in that people with a different number are not treated differently at all. I think it's really a way for people to measure their own accomplishments than anything else. And it's a tool to give concrete suggestions on how to improve yourself. Some people there choose not to participate in it.
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#13090 - 10/21/08 12:39 PM Re: MCoS [Re: coelentrate]
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That's exaclty what it is. There are a general set of requirements for each Libertine level that each member looks and decides for themselves whether or not they have met them. If so, they simply request an adjustment to their level.

It is a nice way to gague personal progress...the only problem is that the standards for each level are defined by someone else (the founder). In my opinion, the only one who can set the standards of accomplishment that I want to aspire to is me. Why measure ourselves by the ideals of another human being?

Granted, they are pretty general so there is a lot of room for personal interpretation but overall, it seems a little silly to me.
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#13097 - 10/21/08 01:04 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Lord Marduk]
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 Originally Posted By: Lord Marduk
That's exaclty what it is.


I'm sorry, what's exactly what, what is?

Shit, that looks awful. rephrase: What are you refering to with the word "That's" and what are you refering to with the word "it"?

As far as needing to meet the founder's standards to advance to the next level, the requirements are SO general. Take a look at what the specific stated requirements are for different libertine levels. It's relatively objective. The requirements are to read books that a lot of people here will be familiar with, and to show evidence that you can work towards and achieve a practical life goal, like earn a degree or learn a skill. It's not "you did what the founder thinks is satanic", it's "you've researched the topic a fair deal and have applied it to your life."

And if you still have questions or concerns, you can ask the dude himself.

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#13101 - 10/21/08 01:26 PM Re: MCoS [Re: coelentrate]
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 Originally Posted By: "Marduk"

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't wanna be telling anyone else how to be a Satanist, but without some kind of hard and fast definitions of what a Satanist is and isn't, the term doesn't mean fuck all.

Ahh, simple wisdom. Would that more people could clue in to this very basic concept. WORDS MEAN THINGS!

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#13105 - 10/21/08 01:34 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dan_Dread]
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I really don't get the 'just chill out and be more tolerant' attitude I see around these days. For fucks sakes, we are supposed to be Satanists. If we can't take ourselves seriously how the fuck do we expect anyone else to?

Well, to be honest what you are saying is more then true. But, I prefer to be laid back when fucking one's mind. It is more relaxing and you scare more shit out of the people. Also, you'll enjoy it more. Well at least if you aren't addicted to your own adrenaline...
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#13122 - 10/21/08 05:17 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dimitri]
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I seriously don't think we need to be more 'tolerant,' I think that is already a given here. I think you should be tolerant of something until it is put in your face. If a person like to eat their own crap, I'll tolerate that. If the post a thread about it, ill sure as hell put my 2 cents in.

Tolerance is a good thing, but when someone wants you to be tolerant of something they are shoving in your face, doing so would just be ignorant. I mean, its a discussion board, I can understand calling someone intolerant if they just scream senseless dribble, but i believe most of us here are capable of understanding a person's thought.
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#13583 - 10/28/08 03:25 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Phaethon]
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Hmm I am undecided, I know joining their forum is a pain in the a-r-s-e for facts.
Everyones talking bout the forum what about the so-called church itself. I was reading through the site and apart from the cheesy pics I couldn't really fault anything they had to say. It talked about some comprehensive occult progress thing (I dunno) but when you try to find any links to anything it all goes a bit pete tong!
I agree though it does a slightly fluffy feel, the forum at least.
I'll join the forum... I mean why the hell not? If I ever get an activation e-mail that is!!
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#13596 - 10/28/08 09:34 PM Re: MCoS [Re: AnOpenHand]
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I get two distinct vibes from the MCoS website. The first, is had when browsing the site itself. I like their message, understand the disclaimers, they seem to have everything just about right. My second impression is had when I browse their forums, and find them to be the typical Hot Topic suburban Satanists with fancy, self-appointed "Libertine" titles that make me roll my eyes in silent disdain. The attitude of the moderators there contrasts with the message of their "Church".

On the other hand, I think it's a great place for disaffected 600 Club members to join and complain about how anal retentive we are. Perhaps we should incoporate a link to the MCoS site whenever a member is banned? A last helpful nudge in the right direction.
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#13598 - 10/28/08 09:47 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Nemesis]
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I feel you. The opening pages almost fooled me into thinking that place would be pretty cool. Damn forums ruining my preconceived ideas! *fistshake*

The whole idea of a website pretending to be a 'church' is so pretentious (not to mention silly) I don't know whether I want to laugh or vomit.

Maybe you guys should convert this site into 'the church of the 600' and appoint everyone with a green name a magister!
Magistra Nemesis, 10th degree high poohba! Hail!
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#13599 - 10/28/08 10:27 PM Re: MCoS [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Hey hey now...keep feeding my ego and I'll get so tall I'll have to shop at a Big & Tall store for chicks! Besides, giving everyone a green name would take away the specialness of MY green name, and why would I want that? You're dealing with a fellow elitist/egoist here, LOL

I'll admit, I'm fairly nosey, and I love hearing trash being talked. I think I'll head over the the MCoS forum and lurk and laugh ;\)
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#13616 - 10/29/08 11:30 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Nemesis]
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I've been nosing some more at the site and find it a kinda funny place. Ultimately it's another us vs them version. A lot of babbling about the wrongs of other orgs and churches and whatever, but they present the same thing in a satanic-light package. It's just another church even though it does its best to hide that fact. Not asking money, having entry requirements or a (visible) hierarchy doesn't change that.

The forum is more like a glorified chat box; a lot of social talk. I'm not gonna say there is deep thinking here all the time but reading there is like zapping on television, you forget it the second you switch to the next.

Seriously, a satanic whatever that accepts about everyone and in that exposes itself as a bottomfeeder, what's with that?

What's wrong with some healthy elitism?

D.

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#13639 - 10/30/08 01:22 AM Re: MCoS [Re: Diavolo]
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Seriously, a satanic whatever that accepts about everyone and in that exposes itself as a bottomfeeder, what's with that?

What's wrong with some healthy elitism?

D.[/quote]

you hit the nail on the head. That’s why us dinosaurs keep returning to Mothership.

You and I have been on these internets a long time, so you know I’m not just referring to these kids. They are just last in a long line of clowns, all climbing out of the same little html satanic clowncar.
The people that put them together have desires of control, respect, and generally easy dating (and frequently paranoid delusions), and they design these orgs to give natural born followers something to join. The joiners feel a part of something, and they’ re made to feel fantastic with being mediocre.
This is great for a knitting circle and just super for a pop stars fan site, but there is nothing remotely satanic in just proclaiming yourself “your own god”, an elitist if you will, and then just leaving it at that.
I can not join a hot rod club because I own a Honda civic (hey it’s a satanic Honda civic), yet any 45 year old porkpie that lives in his grandparents basement and hasn’t had sex without paying for it since 1979 and uses his monthly disability check to pay for internet and lottery tickets can proclaim himself Grand and Exalted High Priest Magister Prime Overlord of Demonoidatry and throw up some schlocky website. Or an 18 year old that cant make shift manager at McDonalds for that matter.
And, people will sign up.

Personally I have not been big into joining groups. Even in my career and amongst my professional peers I rarely participate and I hold little in common with the buffoons. A few years ago however, I became enamored with the ONA.
Now there was some elitism.
They had 2 or three members, and they ceased to exist by the time the writings hit the internet. I took that stuff and some of it I discarded, but some I did not. I realized that it was an "organization" that was based on transcendence achieved on one’s own. They never spelled it out or gave step by step directions, like true occultism should not.
Occultism by definition meaning hidden.
The ONA writings encourage solitude, both as a by-product of setting yourself apart from the herd, and as a means of finding self-awareness. I slept in the woods. I slept on the beach. When I moved back to Los Angeles I walked with the bums. I did weird shit that 10 years I did not think I would be doing. I found out a lot of things about myself, and I became leaner, meaner, more focused, and dare I say, better than the rest.

ONA is an extreme example, being that in all likelihood they never really did manifest as an actual organization , but truly living your life as a Satanist is an extreme endeavor. Joining, following, wishing, pretending… all are such an inherent part of Satanism that I hesitate to define myself as such anymore.

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