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#1304 - 10/30/07 01:16 AM I seem to attract the mentally unstable.
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I've noticed that when it comes to women I seem to attract the mentally unstable, and I mean that literally. I've had a few serious relationships and all the girls I've been with have shown major psychological defects, including some outright delusional, barely functioning in the real world problems.

My last ex was my most serious relationship to date. She was manic depressive, fanatically delusional (she was convinced magic was real and she could talk to the dead, and I don't mean prayer and rituals, I mean throwing fireballs and telekinesis), she had rage issues and she's also a complete nymphomaniac. She was sleeping with another guy while we were engaged so as you can imagine it ended.

Now to give you guys a run down of the way I am.

Ok, I'm new to Satanism in a sense, but not entirely. I've been following a satanist lifestyle now since I was a teenager unknowingly and I think my personality and world views are quite molded by it. I also consider myself quite liberal, I'm a believer in free speech and civil rights, I'm not a big fan of democracy as I believe the average voter is too stupid to know what they want but I'm much more left wing than right.

She seemed to like this, my most recent ex. She liked me because I could survive anything. I looked after me and nothing could get rid of me. I was a "dangerous guy" who didn't let anything bother him.

The only thing that's bothering me now though is this. Why do I attract the psychos? Is this just me or do people similar to me have the same problem? I've yet to have a serious relationship with a girl who hasn't turned out to be a slut and a psychotic. I'd love to know why I can't attract stable people.

So,

What do people think anyway?


PS: I have nothing against people who want to sleep around, feel free, who am I to stop you, but when you're agreeing to a monogamous relationship it's normally expected that you don't sleep with other people.
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#1314 - 10/30/07 09:01 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Perhaps you do attract the nutters--I can't agree or disagree based on your post--but don't forget that the decision to keep these women in your life ultimately rests with you. Does your version of the "satanic lifestyle" involve thoroughly analyzing your own actions and choices, or simply chalking up your bad experience to your crazy-chick-magnetism?

Also: I'm trying to convince myself that you're here (at least partially) to better yourself. That's swell. I hope the forums are a useful tool for you. However, this entire post makes you come across as a loser. I think less of people who've shown patterns of stupidity, and your choice to have serious relations with psychotic, disloyal nymphomaniacs really does make you appear stupid (or at least naive). Although it may not matter much in cyberspace, just be aware of the possible image you're projecting to others. It matters (to some, anyway) if you want to be taken seriously.

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#1317 - 10/30/07 09:52 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: Carme]
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I understand your criticisms and respect your point of view however I'm not particularly good at noticing those traits in people from past experiences, this may be due to Autism and it's something I'm working to improve as it's one of my definite weak areas. In all honesty, I don't choose to have relationships with people who are mentally unstable, I find myself in relationships with people who ultimately end up revealing themselves to be mentally unstable by which I'm happier with them than without regardless of there lack of cogent thought.

I do not blame the downfalls in life on my relationships, if anything I would say my life benefited hugely from my engagement to Hannah (my last ex), she is a wonderful person and I have no problem admitting that I still love her dearly. She is, however, a mentally unstable person who rarely knows what is going on around her. After living with her for a year I'm surprised she can function in society. Just meeting her she seems eccentric, spending time with her makes you realise she is insane. Unfortunately love rarely follows logic and I fell for her. Hannah did more to improve the quality of my life than any other person other than myself ever did and in return I attempted to do the same for her.

What I'm wondering on is simply this. Self reflexion. Is it a coin-incidence that I have attracted multiple people of this type or is there something of my personality and lifestyle that seems to draw that kind of person towards me? That's the question I want to answer because I think for me to have a healthy love-life I should really be trying to form meaningful relationships with people who are considered clinically sane.

I've recently met an interesting girl and I'm hoping something will develop. I'm in no rush so I'll see what happens with time but so far she doesn't show any psychotic tenancies.

Well, thank you for listening, any comments or criticism is appreciated as this is a rather irritating correlation in my life that could do with change.
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#1319 - 10/31/07 05:32 AM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Women with serious mental issues are nearly always overly sexually promiscuous. Abortion clinics are always full of 'em. They're bad news. Steer clear.
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#1320 - 10/31/07 10:01 AM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: School Bully]
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Men are hunters by nature. We also function by repeating what we know works. This seems to be hard wired into our systems and we do it automatically. You are simply doing what you know will supply you with a woman.

Let me explain.

You enter a room full of women and immediately, subconsciously rule-out every one of them except the type you have had success with in the past. Its not a conscious decision. You see the other women, you may even talk to them, but you wont attempt to seriously get them.

Eventually you end up heading toward one of "your type". You strike up a conversation and find your no longer uncomfortable or off balance. You know this "type" and the conversation comes natural to you. You use the lines and skills that were successful in the past and because its the same "type", they are being successful again.



Human nature strives for a level of comfort or familiarity. This is why abused women always replace one abusive relationship with another. They can enter a room full of men and in under an hour, find the abusive men in the group. He is her "type".

So, how to break out of this?

Make it a game. Use dice or other random means to locate a type of person. Then date/pick up/talk to, only that type of person for three months. Get to know what works and what doesn't. Then randomly choose again.

Avoid your normal pick up spots. Hit on women in a variety of other places. The grocery store, book store, McDonald's, or gynecologists office. This widens your pool of potabilities.

And most importantly,

Don't immediately rule-out anyone. The most fun I ever had was when I left my comfort zone. In the end, you will never be truly happy with someone you have nothing in common with, but the experience and knowledge you gain from taking these detours, is well worth the effort.

Chris
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#1323 - 10/31/07 12:34 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: MCSA TEK]
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MSCA TEK, chears for the advice. It makes a lot of sense, what you've said so I'll give it a chance. I'm currently interested in a girl I met at the pub a week ago and I'm going out with her tonight however I'm going to take it slow as to avoid the chance of starting something up with someone who will ultimately end up like all the other girls I've been with. She seems stable and I've had a few conversations with her, she shows no signs of delusional behaviour, schizophrenia, multiple personalities, anger/rage issues, obsessive compulsive disorder or manic depression. I'll see what happens, if not I'll start chatting people up in the post office or other strange locations.
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#1340 - 11/01/07 02:22 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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When we have problems with females in our life, and the problems seem to continue regardless of who we date, then we must realize that they are meeting some need we may even be unaware of.We need to find out what we are radiating that attracts this type of girl.
I used to have a problem of dating ,and falling in love with, strippers. When I did so my life was full of drama and stress, even though the sex was good.Their problems became my problems.The term we are looking for that describes that type is psychic vampires. Always broke, constant ex-boyfriend or ex husband problems, raised in a dysfunctional family, drug or alcohol dependence problems,inability to manage money or stick with a budget,constantly sick or worrying about becoming sick,inability to be faithful to anyone for long...I could go on and on

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#1346 - 11/01/07 09:24 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: Samuel Hain]
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Unfortunately I think I may have fallen for another girl who fits my standard M.O.

In this situation she is blunt, hard to offend, speaks her mind and says she doesn't want a serious relationship. HOWEVER. She's never had a boyfriend and is still a virgin (as far as I know) so she's not as of yet a cheat or slut, all previous girlfriends I've had where so I'm holding out some hope for her to prove that women can be decent and worth my time.

I have made efforts to avoid her and keep my options open because I really like this girl and quite frankly I want to fuck her brains out as well, I've gone months without sex and could do with no strings sex, however I wouldn't mind trying for a relationship.

A friend of mine has also expressed a strong interest in this girl, this has caused tension and I decided to be gracious and stand down so he can see if a relationship develops. As much as I really like this girl I don't know if it would be healthy as I imagine the relationship would be similar to others I've had. The only problem I now have is Envy, which I've already expressed a dislike for in another thread. I'm horny, angry and jealous, not good. I don't want my friend hurt and I don't want a doomed or signature relationship but I do want this girl. I just hope this situation is resolved soon because there is no way this can end with everything going well.

At least she's not insane and she's a gorgeous dancer.
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#1348 - 11/01/07 10:24 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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As Socrates said: Know Thyself.
Or, as the prophet of the higher man said: He who who command others must first learn to command himself.
Ah , yes. I have been there. The Great Evil! Not the red skinned, horned kind, but the Great Evil that causes so much Hell and mayhem and mischief that dwells underneath a woman's panties! Lmao!

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#1356 - 11/02/07 12:36 AM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Take a look at Schopenhauer's writings on love and sex, particularly his 'Metaphysics of Sexual Love'.
http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/essays/chapter12.html
A whole chapter of Alain de Botton's 'The Consolations of Philosophy' is devoted to Schopenhauer on love.

It certainly helped me to avoid falling into the illusion of being blinded by another's flaws through letting my heart rule my head.

That work is a good pointer out of destructive romantic feelings and delusions, as a firm basis for establishing more healthy relationships based on friendship, reality, and an objective assessment of one's needs and desires.

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#1451 - 11/05/07 01:47 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Sorry to get off the topic a little bit. I just read Autism and it grabbed my attention. My 3 year old was diagnosed with Autism last year and is currently going through home schooling right now and will age out of it next August and will attend a preschool specializing in teaching kids with Autism.

Anyway, I digress. It looks like you've got great communication skills and I'm hoping that my son develops those same skills one day. Great for you! I'll be happy if my son even has the same problem that you talked about. Take it easy...
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#1453 - 11/05/07 02:35 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: Sinistar]
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I don't mean to tell you how to raise your child Sinistar but one thing I would stress is that if you want your child to develop social skills do NOT send them to an Autism Specialist school. Preschool will make little difference, but once they're old enough to attend school they will need to be with ordinary children in an ordinary environment.

I'm no expert on children, I haven't any myself, however having lived with Autism, having many Autistic friends and a cousin with Autism I can claim at least a good level of understanding of the situation I think.

First of all, don't expect him to have friends quickly. He will likely be very solitary and insular at first. He will almost certainly be extremely sure of himself, rarely admitting he is wrong even when he is and often unwilling to accept another point of view without a lot of evidence to back it up. This is a trait I have and something I've seen in a lot of Autistics. He will question everything. He will likely dislike religion, I have yet to meet an Autistic that wasn't Atheist.
Don't worry if he's never have a girlfriend at the age of 16-18, that's relatively normal for Autistics as they find social situations boring and baffling.
Above all, don't treat it as a mental handicap, Autistic people statistically have a higher IQ, mathematic ability, logical mindset and think scientifically. He will likely be intelligent, he'll just lack the social skills to convey his intelligence until he's in his early 20's (late teens if he tries hard to learn social skills that come naturally to others).
If you have any questions on Autism you'd like my input on I'll be happy to answer anything, it's something I enjoy explaining especially as experts on Autism know fuck all about it, (I had a big argument with my A level psychologist about Autism as I told her that most of the things she said where total crap. In the end she said "And what makes you an expert on this subject?", you can likely guess my answer).

By the way, if you're wondering how I know the child is a boy, Autism is so rare in girls that only about 1-2% of all Autism cases are female, I'm simply playing the odds.

As for Paula, thanks for the URL, I found it very interesting and gave me a slightly different perspective to look at.
I'm hoping really that I#'ll be able to relax and take things slowly. Focus on other areas of my life before I worry about a relationship, I just trying to control lust at the moment. It's something that bothers me a lot because I'm in no position really to be dating. I should worry more about stable employment and regimenting my life a little more into something coherent (something I'm hoping Satanism will help with). Then I can think about furthering my romantic goals.

Thanks for the replies though guys. It has helped.
As much as Satanism teaches self reliance and self help before relaying on others, sometimes another perspective can help you identify a severe downfall that needs attention. My personal life and how I approach it, is one such downfall I think.
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#1634 - 11/09/07 03:09 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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From the occasional bit of reading Iíve done on psychology and relationships over the years, one thing Iíve found that comes up quite often is the fact that the people we attract to us or find ourselves attracted to are often the ones who come with dysfunctions which we ourselves have yet to deal with in our own lives. If you find yourself attracting one mentally unstable woman after another, chances are that you have unresolved issues regarding mental instability and your subconscious desire to fix that projects that very thing into your life. Each new mentally unstable woman you find yourself involved with presents a blank canvas for you to fix a previously unresolved issue, and until you can find a way to resolve or at least acknowledge it you will keep following the same pattern.

Think back to the first woman you ever had serious affection for that was mentally unstable and ask yourself if there is something about that relationship that still feels unresolved. Then seriously consider the possibility that trying to resolve that same issue with other woman of a similar nature doesnít feel like some subconscious attempt to fix that unresolved issue within your own psyche. If you seriously take some time to put some thought into that, youíll be surprised at what you uncover about the nature of your own behavior patterns and what it is youíre really looking for.

I also think itís worth pointing out that hypersexual women often display that behavior pattern out of a compulsive need to cover up or cope with something negative within their own past, thus itís not surprising that issues like depression and instability accompany it. Being a man, youíre prone to thinking with your dick and not your mind when you find yourself in the presence of an over sexualized woman. No one would be shocked if you ignored or completely missed the signs altogether that this person was mentally unstable when faced with the prospect of getting laid.

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#1639 - 11/09/07 06:26 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: Succubus666]
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Honestly, the only relation to what you said that could be a connection would be the chance that I'm subconsciously relating my own mental stability with their instability.

Physically speaking I'm a wreck. I've had operations and serious medical problems for years. I've spent a total of 1 tenth of my life in a hospital bed and trust me that's a lot. I do however pride myself on being a stable and intelligent individual. Regardless of what happens to this meat bag I call a body so long as I have my mind I'm happy because that's what defines me. I've always felt that way, even as a child. This could be the reason I seem to attract the mentally unstable, you know, opposites attract (although, saying that, I am Autistic).

One thing I have noticed is that I find I go for girls who are mentally unstable and only realise they're hypersexual after I end up with them and realise they want it more than I do which is always daunting for a guy.
In all honesty, sex is not a high priority for me. I'd rather have a healthy relationship based on trust, comfort, compassion etc. As uncharacteristic as this may sound coming from a guy, I would rather be with a girl I could fall asleep in bed with and feel completely at peace than have a girl who was fantastic in bed, (although as human greed dictates, I'd much prefer to have both). I want to settle down in a relationship. I want to feel love for someone and feel loved in return. I've felt that before and I really kinda miss it, even if she wasn't entirely on this planet.
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#1727 - 11/10/07 10:09 PM Re: I seem to attract the mentally unstable. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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On autism:

You apparently don't know as much as you think you know. First, you keep saying "I'm autistic" as if that should explain everything. It doesn't and it's stupid to think so.

Second: not all children require special schools, but some do. How can you reasonably advise Sinstar that his child--about whom you know virtually nothing--belongs in a regular school? I taught preschool for nearly 3 years and the few mildly autistic children we had were incredibly difficult to deal with. One in particular desperately needed to go to a different school--we simply were not equipped to meet his needs. This is not a rare occurrence and your perpetuating the myth that "normal surroundings" will support a child's development just fine is not beneficial. Again, you don't know what you're talking about, even if you are personally "autistic."

The rest of your rant pertaining to what he should expect of his autistic child is largely crap. I seriously hope anyone who listens to you realizes you're merely talking about yourself and little else. In fact, what you seem to be describing is any Wikipedia-ized description of Asperger's. My SO and another one of my closest friends have both been diagnosed with Asperger's and while you've got the general gist down, they're both very different people and those generalized descriptions are nothing more than... er, well, generalized descriptions. Oh, yes: and one is Wiccan.

Also, Sinstar said his child was a boy. I didn't have to wonder about how you knew that.

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