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#13204 - 10/22/08 10:48 AM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: Diavolo]
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"No, I want proof for the evolutionary creationist"

I am sorry, you want me to prove that I believe in both evoloution and creationism?

How do you expect me to do that?

Isnt my word good enough, when I say I believe in both you think I am lying.

prove that you believe in Satanism!

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#13220 - 10/22/08 12:48 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: lux]
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 Originally Posted By: lux

Think about it..."from the dust of the earth"... is not the bible giving us a "primitive" evoloution theory?


Well this is always what I used to think. Why couldn't evolution simply have been one of God's mechanisms for bringing about life?

I don't think the world was created intelligently though, due to a lack of evidence other than a general "gut feeling". Also how messed up everything is.

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Oh and concerning "proving" it, guys, PLEASE don't go down that road and derail the thread. Just put your fists down and accept the fact that Lux believes evolution is driven by an unseen God. It's a petty detail not worth fighting over.


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#13230 - 10/22/08 03:23 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: The Zebu]
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Didn't evolution come about from single celled organisms? Yet in the bible it states god giving adam dominance over the flying creatures of the heavens and fish of the sea and so on. How is that evolutionary? They already exist.
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#13258 - 10/22/08 05:26 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: blsk]
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but dosnt the fact that all living things having incredably similar DNA point to a common designer?
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#13260 - 10/22/08 05:30 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: lux]
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"Didn't evolution come about from single celled organisms? Yet in the bible it states god giving adam dominance over the flying creatures of the heavens and fish of the sea and so on. How is that evolutionary? They already exist."

that could have been gods plan even before the single cell organisim, you have to remember also that everyone of us evolved from a single cell organism called a zygote.

he determined from the outset that the way we would evolve would mean we (adam) would have dominance over the rest of cretion.

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#13261 - 10/22/08 05:30 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: lux]
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Jesus christ Lux read your own post.

Think about it..."from the dust of the earth"... is not the bible giving us a "primitive" evoloution theory?

What you just posted has nothing to do with what I pointed out to you.
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#13262 - 10/22/08 05:32 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: blsk]
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Eh, what are you on about?
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#13264 - 10/22/08 05:36 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: lux]
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Anyone that get's their epistemology from the bible is an idiot.
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#13265 - 10/22/08 05:39 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: lux]
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Ok, your other post just appeared. Now I know what your talking about.

You are contradicting yourself.

You said he determined from the outset that the way we would evolve would mean we (adam) would have dominance over the rest of cretion.


Yet if I understand you correctly. God created man solely from dust. So what evolution are you talking about?
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#13271 - 10/22/08 05:53 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: blsk]
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So if god spoke to moses telling him of DNA and single celled organisims the people of that time would of understood, "from the dust of the earth" simply conveyed the message, now in our time we understand it better.
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#13275 - 10/22/08 05:59 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: lux]
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No Lux. The bible says god took adam from the earth. The bible also says gods word is perfect. Are you suggesting the credibility of that to be flawed by mans interpritation? If so how can you believe the rest to be true?

On that note, what did god intend to insinuate by taking eve from his rib. How is that explained by your theory?


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#13279 - 10/22/08 06:18 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: blsk]
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god made adam from the earth.

the bible is the word of god, mans interpretation is flawed, the holy spirits is not.

rib, only means taken from the same eveloutionary process

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#13281 - 10/22/08 06:20 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: lux]
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Oh come now Lux. Really? Is this what they teach in your church? All that sounds like to me is rationalizations after rationalizations. Really, where do they get this from. lol Also, if god was able to physically write the 10 comandments, why didn't he just write the bible?

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#13295 - 10/22/08 07:09 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: blsk]
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 Originally Posted By: blsk
if god was able to physically write the 10 comandments, why didn't he just write the bible?

Since god can only write on stone tablets could you imagine the weight of that thing?

In my opinion all these one liners like "what are you on about" should be kept to a minimum...

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#13297 - 10/22/08 07:13 PM Re: Creationist nonsense [Re: ta2zz]
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That would be one big-ass book! lol I looove the fact that instead of saying "i don't know" he just doesn't respond. Would that be pride?! Oooooo, Lux you are soooo in trouble with your god!

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