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#13259 - 10/22/08 05:27 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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Christianity IS tyranny. That is the whole goal of your god.

Main Entry: tyr·an·ny
Pronunciation: \ˈtir-ə-nē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural tyr·an·nies
Etymology: Middle English tyrannie, from Middle French, from Medieval Latin tyrannia, from Latin tyrannus tyrant
Date: 14th century
1: oppressive power <every form of tyranny over the mind of man — Thomas Jefferson> ; especially : oppressive power exerted by government <the tyranny of a police state>
2 a: a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler ; especially : one characteristic of an ancient Greek city-state b: the office, authority, and administration of a tyrant
3: a rigorous condition imposed by some outside agency or force <living under the tyranny of the clock — Dixon Wecter>
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#13263 - 10/22/08 05:34 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: blsk]
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We dont impose belief in God, we appeal for people to belive in God
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#13266 - 10/22/08 05:40 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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 Originally Posted By: lux
We dont impose belief in God, we appeal for people to belive in God

And luckily for you the world is loaded with stupid people that accept any old belief without cross referencing it with reality.
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#13267 - 10/22/08 05:41 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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You don't impose belief yet if we do not we pay a costly price.

Still tyranny.


Edited by blsk (10/22/08 05:41 PM)
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#13268 - 10/22/08 05:47 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: blsk]
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i have just said your eternal fate is in the hands of god, i do not presume to know, it would be prudent not to mix up protestant fundementalism with Catholcism
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#13270 - 10/22/08 05:52 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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Yes, because their imaginary friends are SO MUCH DIFFERENT
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#13272 - 10/22/08 05:55 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: Dan_Dread]
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does dan dread ever contribute anything inteligent?
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#13276 - 10/22/08 06:00 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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That is my point Lux. If it is up to your free will to do "good" or "evil" than it IS up to you. Is it not?
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#13277 - 10/22/08 06:07 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: blsk]
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#13308 - 10/22/08 08:18 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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Than even you can see that "god" is not the "decider" in how you spend your eternity, you alone are. In your bible god says "do not lean upon your own understanding," that "it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step," and says "cursed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in man." Yet were not the men who wrote the bible forced to lean upon their own understanding in regards to things such as visions? Was it not your own understanding of god that brought you into your faith? Should you not then cast off your understanding of god as fallable? Puting your trust in man(your parents and pastors)that theirs is the path? Don't you see that these people want nothing more than your willing refusal to think for yourself?

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#13316 - 10/22/08 08:38 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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 Originally Posted By: lux
does dan dread ever contribute anything inteligent?



To answer your question, no I don't waste braincells on trolls.

Thanks for the laugh, by the way. Whenever someone tries to get sanctimonious about 'intelligence' but spells 'intelligence' incorrectly (irony, anyone?) it always manages to draw a chuckle.
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#13318 - 10/22/08 08:58 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: Dan_Dread]
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A christian even insinuating intelligence is an oxymoron. Kinda like that picture of Brittany Spears wearing a Harvard shirt.
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#13324 - 10/22/08 10:29 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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There is a misconception among those of religious faith, that without such faith, people cannot know happiness, or have moral standards.

However, through evolution, we have indeed been born with knowing what is right and wrong.
What is right, are actions and feelings which help sustain life. Life is the goal of the gene pool.
Therefore, we are born with Empathy, for other living things. When we see something suffer, we can understand, and relate to the suffering, and will in many cases give assistance.

What is wrong, is the UNNECESSARY destruction of life. When there is enough food, mates, land, and other things which we require to survive, then human beings will most often get along, and will also help each other. This desire comes from genetics, not religion.

When there are enough resources for people to get along, the main cause of war are faulty belief systems, such as religion.
Another reason for strife when resources are plentiful is political beliefs; mainly an individual or a group of people attempting to tell others how to live their lives.

Satanism, doesn’t need to look for a reward for living a good life, because life itself IS the reward.
We, as Satanists, can enjoy the moment we are in, savoring the pleasures of the palate, body, and other senses, which is equal to the life we live now.

We also stand in judgement, but not in front of a god, sometime down the road, who will wash our sins away, or judge us; but instead, we stand in judgement in front of ourselves. We can know that if we feel unhappy, sad or miserable, that we are doing something wrong. That wrong usually stems from doing things which go against our nature, or in failing to achieve those things which are necessary for our happiness. Things which throw off our balance.

When one lives a balanced life, there is no desire to rape and murder the innocents, or those that are weaker. Sexuality is seen as part of a fulfilling life, and there is no guilt associated with it.
However, guilt induced by religion, throws off a healthy balance, and because of repressed feelings, hostility is created.

This is why, it is so difficult for religious people to understand why, without a god head, one can live in peace and harmony in a social setting.

It is the religious ones that accuse humanity of being inhumane, cruel and violent, because those are the feelings that are born through repression of the spirit.

Don’t children have to be weary of religious leaders, as well as other unbalanced individuals?

Yes, beliefs such as Satanism do attract unbalanced individuals, who cause havoc and cruelty to others, but the same type of individuals are also drawn to white light religions in order to feed their unhealthy egos, and urges.
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#13333 - 10/23/08 12:42 AM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: lux]
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 Originally Posted By: lux
but how much of your beliefs have been affected by Christian ideology?

Take God out of the equasion, take all christian ideology away, is it even possible for you to do so?

What kind of society will we live in, without God there is no morality....


I'm not going to lie, I literally got a little queasy reading this and my vision started warping out.

Furthermore, the glass house of Yahweh is no good place to be throwing stones of "good morality" from, especially with the abhorrent child-slaughtering campaign of genocide he commanded his followers to carry out way back in Canaan. No single culture or religion has the answer, ESPECIALLY Judeo-Christian religion.

Look at the rest of the world. Most of the world IS NOT CHRISTIAN, yet they have come up with essentially the same basic moral values we have. WITH NO JUDEO-CHRISTIAN INFLUENCE.

All other the ancient world cultures had come up with "moral values" while the ancestors of the hebrews were still worshiping Ashera! Judaism got its ethics and morals from their sumerian predecessors.

This vast amount of evidence overwhelms your blatant denial of reality. You keep on insisting "Christian values are the only way people can be decent!" when time and time again the "virtuous heathens" prove you wrong.

Maybe morality and altruism is... *gasp* in our human nature?!?

(As a side note, yeah, this thread is hitting a brick wall... I'm getting too tired for niceties... oh well...)

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Edited by The Zebu (10/23/08 12:45 AM)
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#13349 - 10/23/08 06:09 PM Re: Sister Emmanuelle [Re: Asmedious]
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Waouw!

Asmedious, you said much better than me what I have in my head. LOL

I fully agree on that !

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