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#13982 - 11/06/08 01:44 PM Re: An example of socialist fuel taxation [Re: Bacchae]
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my appreciation of obama has nothing to do with his color. rather it is a feeling i get looking at his face and hearing his words. i dont see the same reptilian ZOG liar Ive seen in every other president since Reagan.


Don't worry, many a man has been guiled by smooth talk and a pretty face. You won't be the first.

I can assure you that Obama is indeed an establishment candidate. No less establishment figures than Warren Buffet and George Soros backed him. He also has more than a few kindred spirits in the CFR. No, Obama is really just more of the same, he may be walking on the other side of the street but he is still moving in the same direction. Rest assured, he will continue to move us toward One World Govt, the NWO, and promotion of the Prison Planet doctrine.

You can easily tell the non-establishment candidates. They are the ones who are widely popular among the great unwashed masses yet are either ignored or endure savage personal attack by the main stream press. Ron Paul and Sara Palin come immediately to mind.
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#14187 - 11/11/08 08:58 AM Re: Obama [Re: Disabuse]
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 Originally Posted By: Disabuse
Obama handles himself unlike any President we have had in many years. He has made me interested to see what he is going to do.


The Mulatto (not Black) Obama Barack has indeed a certain grandeur in his eyes.
Much like Charlie Manson and (I suspect) Jesus, The Nazareen.
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#14190 - 11/11/08 10:34 AM Re: Obama wins. [Re: The Zebu]
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I am actually a republican/liberatarian, and i voted for McCain. To be quite honest, i dont actually think that any of the candidates that we had for president this year were that great at all. Each party did have its strong points and its weak at the same time.

But all this aside, i strongly hope that someone doesn't assassinate Obama... because were are ALL FUCKED if Biden takes office. say goodbye to Democracy and hello to Communism. YAY SOCIALISM!
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#14206 - 11/11/08 12:44 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: athegiscj]
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 Originally Posted By: athegiscj
But all this aside, i strongly hope that someone doesn't assassinate Obama... because were are ALL FUCKED if Biden takes office. say goodbye to Democracy and hello to Communism. YAY SOCIALISM!


And that must be the dumbest statement in this thread (so far).

Biden a devout believer in communism?
Illegitimate child of Nikita Krutsjov?
Sleeps with "Das Kapital" under his pillow?
Married to a KGB "sleeper" whos real name is Vera Moskovskajia?

Well, at least I had a (sad) laugh...
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#14251 - 11/12/08 01:16 AM Re: Obama wins. [Re: athegiscj]
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How so? You offered no facts to back up you assertion that Biden is a socialist. Did all your friends and the talking heads on tv influence this opinion? Had you ever heard of Biden prior to his being named as VP candidate? I'm very curious what proof you can offer to back this statement up. Since had I been inclined to vote, the Obama/Biden ticket was my more likely choice. Based solely on his choice as Biden as VP.
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#14261 - 11/12/08 03:59 AM Re: Obama wins. [Re: athegiscj]
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yes. clearly palin was the better VP candidate, with god on her side AND she was blessed by a succesful african witch hunter. its astounding she didnt win.
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#14297 - 11/12/08 05:34 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: Bacchae]
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I went to the states 2 weeks ago, and the consensus I saw, all across the country was "I don't give a fuck anymore! just let the goddamned campaign end!" The campaigns had been going on for 2 years, constantly in everyones' faces, and both sides seemed to be lying their asses off about their rivals.

Shouldn't the candidates have spent their hundreds of millions of campaign dollars on social reforms or something?

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#14333 - 11/13/08 02:13 AM Re: Obama wins. [Re: athegiscj]
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And for your information, this is NOT a democracy. The American government is a constitutional republic. We're led to believe it's a democracy to tame the sheep. I mean really, what would the general public do if the horse blinders were lifted and they found out we are not actually a democracy? Their beloved false ideal of hope and equality gone...

And here we are, trying to spread democracy around the world like we actually practice it ourselves. Hypocrisy comes to mind...
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#19280 - 01/29/09 12:19 PM Re: Democracy? [Re: Disabuse]
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I realize that this post has been quiet for a time now, but it got me thinking a little so i had to respond.

When you really think about it, when has a democracy ever been truly successful? Take Rome for example. Rome rather flourished as a republic, and when the public was swayed to turn it to a democracy, everything fell into disarray. The end result? A Caesar was able to step into power (offering to "fix" the turmoil - which the sheep gladly ate up) and bring a monarchy back which ultimately contributed to the destruction of the "Great Roman Empire."

But of course these cycles never seem to end. The masses always are coaxed into believing a democracy will give them power, and "isn't that what they want?" But of course when the inevitability of such a large body of conflicting ideas is unable to govern itself, a tyrant is consistently able to step in, offering "salvation" at the expense of freedom.

I wonder how long it may take for the US to fall to the same plight.
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#19281 - 01/29/09 12:42 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: Disabuse]
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 Originally Posted By: Disabuse
And for your information, this is NOT a democracy. The American government is a constitutional republic. We're led to believe it's a democracy to tame the sheep. I mean really, what would the general public do if the horse blinders were lifted and they found out we are not actually a democracy? Their beloved false ideal of hope and equality gone...

And here we are, trying to spread democracy around the world like we actually practice it ourselves. Hypocrisy comes to mind...



After giving it much (more) thought, I think that our government is more a plutocracy than anything else. Giving the "little guy" an illusion of direct-voting and democracy was merely a compromise so that they would be on board with the new constitution and so that they would be willing fodder for the front lines. After Shay's Rebellion and other similar uproars, the haves were deathly afraid of the have nots, and our founding fathers were vehemently against a democratic government.

The Federalist papers drew heavily from Lockean ideals and our constitution drew heavily from the Federalist papers. The point was to protect the people with property (read: wealth and power) from those who had no property (read: no wealth/no power).



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#19286 - 01/29/09 01:28 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: ceruleansteel]
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To me there actually is no form of political thinking or structure.
The power still lies within the people, which most seem to forget. You can have any form of government, if something is fucked up and all people are getting angry and starting riots, you can be bloody sure it doesn't care whose in charge.

Perhaps that's why most are glad Obama is in charge in the US.
Altough I don't have high hopes on him (he can talk well, and yes it is true he started with some of promises) he still hasn't put the American economy back into a green light..
He only acts as someone to fend off disaster by trying to reverse or undo the problems others created.
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#19288 - 01/29/09 01:37 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: Dimitri]
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Our economy is going to be fucked for a long time to come, and there isn't much ANY new president can do about it. There is no quick fix for that particular fuck up. All the bailouts and handouts and financing that our government has been doing, it does by borrowing money from a private bank and the biggest problem with that is that the repayment rate will not increase to match the recent increase in borrowing.

It may work itself out, it may not. The economic problems aren't a huge deal to me, either way. I'm set well enough that I could go three years with no income and be just fine. Even if the dollar completely tanked I have a contingency plan.

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#19290 - 01/29/09 01:42 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Our economy is going to be fucked for a long time to come, and there isn't much ANY new president can do about it. There is no quick fix for that particular fuck up. All the bailouts and handouts and financing that our government has been doing, it does by borrowing money from a private bank and the biggest problem with that is that the repayment rate will not increase to match the recent increase in borrowing.

Figured that one out also..
But hey, if someone can give the IMPRESSION everything could be saved, then maybe things will settle themselves. And otherwise, a huge crash and everything may start again from the beginning.. Don't mind really, as long as I can live comfy and have my necessary products to stay alive. And if not.. well..
I still have the brains to help myself and to get free energy from nature.


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#19292 - 01/29/09 01:49 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: Dimitri]
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I still have the brains to help myself and to get free energy from nature.



Exactly.

Sadly, though, here in america people who can take a shit without outside assistance are few and far between. A large part of me is cheering for a complete collapse...it's the modern day version of Darwinism.

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#19294 - 01/29/09 01:54 PM Re: Obama wins. [Re: ceruleansteel]
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 Originally Posted By: ceruleansteel
Even if the dollar completely tanked I have a contingency plan.


Canada?


I don't think "bailouts" are going to be our solution here. It's sort of the same thing as paying off your credit card debt with another credit card.

Unfortunately, the overall effective solution for the Great Depression was WWII (most specifically the impacts of the war rather than the war itself).
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