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#14915 - 11/27/08 12:12 AM Views on Juggaloism
Phaethon Offline
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I wanted to make a thread regarding what the people here at the 600 club thought about Juggaloes. I believe that there are more intelligent and open minded people here than those I meet in day to day life. If you don't know what a juggalo is, then there isn't much of a need for you to state your opinion.

I want to hear people's views and questions regarding juggaloes, as well as anything else you wish to say. I'm not one to restrict speech.
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#14921 - 11/27/08 05:55 AM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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First off, this thread doesn't deserve a reply, but as I'm so incredibly disgusted with your question, I'll answer.

Anyone who bases their social standing and actions on doctrine from a musical group is WASTING THEIR LIFE. "Juggaloes" are exactly the same as burn-out Deadheads, bro-core-posi-Phish Phans, and other sycophantic throngs of youngsters who can't think without a celebrity to tell them how.

You now have my opinion, although I'm sure you'll retort by saying that I just don't get it. Be a music fan, not a sycophant.
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#14926 - 11/27/08 11:22 AM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Octavius]
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Some may base their life on what ICP says, but that's not always the case.
You don't even need to like ICP or even listen to them to be a juggalo. Its supposed to be more of a mindset, a family of (usually) common views like a hate for bigotry.

But by no means are ICP supposed to be telling people what to do. There are alot of people like that, who follows every word they say, but that's the burden of there being no definition to being a juggalo.
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#14932 - 11/27/08 02:42 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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You don't even need to like ICP or even listen to them to be a juggalo. Its supposed to be more of a mindset, a family of (usually) common views like a hate for bigotry.


So they're hippies or what? It seems like it doesn't matter too much what ya do, as long as you call yourself a juggalo -djeez serious what a label- you're one. Why you wanna be a member of a club that accept everyone?

And what is so damn wrong with being a bigot?

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#14975 - 11/27/08 11:23 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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Octavius said it well when he said this post did not deserve a response, but in doing so he responded to this thread... So much for that...

I passed over this thread once but seeing it has passed before my eyes again I will give you my opinion...

 Originally Posted By: Phaethon
but that's the burden of there being no definition to being a juggalo.

There are plenty of definitions of juggalo on the internet... Try Google...

Any burden you carry calling yourself a juggalo is a self imposed burden...

Seems like a fuzzy, warm, feel good, look even though I'm strange I am accepted, load of shit... Simply put yet another title, this one born for those feeling they do not fit other pre-existing titles... What comes to mind are titles like GOTH, EMO, JOCK... Seriously past high school what benefits do such titles bring?

Good luck on your path...

~T~
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#14979 - 11/28/08 12:00 AM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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i am under the impression that a juggalo is a suburban white kid that acts black?
dont they wear big pants and say "yo dawg funky fresh in da hizouse can i get a what what"?
no offense to anyone, but Ive tattooed a few of them, and they all kind of had issues with bathing, proper english, and coming up with money.
not very unique, and not really my crowd.

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#15135 - 11/29/08 10:18 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz

Seems like a fuzzy, warm, feel good, look even though I'm strange I am accepted, load of shit... Simply put yet another title, this one born for those feeling they do not fit other pre-existing titles... What comes to mind are titles like GOTH, EMO, JOCK... Seriously past high school what benefits do such titles bring?

Although there often is a stereotype associated with being a juggalo, there isn't always. All in all the only benefits I can see are the warm fuzzy feeling and a common string to tie you together with others.
And no Bacchae, they don't always act black (or urban as you most likely meant). ICP was raised in Detroit in the ghettos, so that's the kind of culture they adapted. It appealed mostly to white suburban kids because it want an imitation of other rappers at the time. So it wasn't like they were being wiggers by listening to it. Every juggalo has their own story, though many of them can be stereotyped, that's not always the case.
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#15137 - 11/29/08 10:34 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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I work for a concert production company and one of the shows I had to work was ICP. They were a bunch of whiny bitches who threatened to cancel the show when my boss said he wouldn't pay them more that they had agreed upon in the contract to do the show. They then threatened to start a riot. Fuck ICP.

Secondly all the juggalos I've met are a bunch of wanna be gang bangers who think they are the toughest shit out there. I met quite a few of them while in Sacramento and they were some of the most annyoing people I ever had the displeasure of meeting.

They might have been funny years ago, but it is time this fad came to an end.
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#15139 - 11/29/08 10:45 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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I had a Juggalo kid come into the store today. He was, by far, the most disrespectful little fucknugget I've had the misfortune of coming across this week. If he's any representation of "Juggalo Culture" you can all go fuck yourselves.

I work in a music store. We sell musical instruments. I usually work the high-end acoustic and classical guitars room. This little shit came in and played guitars worth thousands with his KFC-laced fingers while shredding strings, and bumping them on and off the wall-hooks, then went and broke several strings on one of my most expensive classicals because he took a heavy-gauge pick to nylon strings.

He was wearing a leather jacket with zippers and a pair of those goddamned metal-snot-pants with buckles all over. Number one, all jackets come off when handling the instruments. He whined like a baby when I told him to take off his jacket and chains. When I told him that nylon strings are not to be played with a pick, he slammed a chord and popped half the strings in defiance while shouting "asshole" at me.

I grabbed his coat and chains and escorted him out of the store as all the while he spat expletives at me. He yelled to see the manager, and when I told him I was the manager, he called me a fascist. I laughed at him as I literally threw him on his ass outside the store with explicit instructions not to return. He pointed at his T-shirt (which has the same icon on it as our friend Phaeton) and shouted "Juggalo mutherfucker!"

Whatever.
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#15141 - 11/29/08 10:58 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Octavius]
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It figures that a juggalo would do that to a guitar. By being a fan of ICP they have already proven to know absolutely nothing about music. I'm suprised you let this kid touch anything. If I worked in a music store I would immediately ban anyone who came in wearing ICP merchandise. Dipshits like that can stick to guitar queero.
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#15142 - 11/29/08 11:09 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Octavius]
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my heart goes out to you, and all GC babysitters.
stopped in there yesterday for a blank nut, and I lasted about 5 minutes before fleeing.
of course black friday probably wasnt the best day to go

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#15145 - 11/30/08 04:35 AM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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The word 'Juggalo' doesn't really seem to have a coherent meaning. Why would one want to use a label for themselves that doesn't really describe anything?

Seems a bit pointless to me.
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#15160 - 11/30/08 11:47 AM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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He pointed at his T-shirt (which has the same icon on it as our friend Phaeton) and shouted "Juggalo mutherfucker!"

What an idiot.. you really should have kept him within the shop and called the brats mommy to ask her for paying her sons actions wich led of violating some of the instruments. Much funnier and you'll see his toughness disappear.

Apologies for going a bit off-topic now..
But octavius, you have a music shop... Quite interesting. Are you also doing international shipments? I'm bit searching for a new guitar..

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The word 'Juggalo' doesn't really seem to have a coherent meaning. Why would one want to use a label for themselves that doesn't really describe anything?

Well, you must know most labels doesn't really have a coherent meaning. And if they have it is quite obviously it is something made-up to give it some "cachet"(word for saying: "to make it more exquise").

Now about Juggalo's, I don't know much about them. Only heard it mentioned a time or 2. But as far as I'm concerned it is just some idiot fashion idea. Most will disagree but in modern time every fashionstyle has become a "lifestyle". Don't mind, don't care as long as I'm not being bothered with it. Everyone wants to be unique so they copy others who are trying to be unique but who aren't.
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#15171 - 11/30/08 02:21 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Dimitri]
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I cannot believe this is actually a thread, but it is illustrative of the sorts of idiots show up here when school is out.

Since all of these threads should be somewhat instructive, I think we should use this as a learning point.

A juggalo is a colloquial term for the soda (or 'pop' in Michigan) brand "Faygo" made by a small Detroit bottler. As near as anyone can tell, 'juggalo' was Detroit slang for a 3L bottle of this stuff. Faygo is found mostly in the central part of the country in nearly any ghetto convenience store and is sold for much less than any national brand pop. In the ghetto, it is a cheap source of carbohydrates and used as a mixer for your 'knottyhead.'

ICP seems like group of authentic guys doing a unique sort of act. In their early days, their act was based on the nonsense and insanity they grew up with in a decaying Detroit.

However, most of their fans are your typical suburban white kids who think acting 'black' is cool. Mostly this stems from a lack of strong white male role models in popular culture. Young whites today have no strong male role models to pattern their behavior after. Nor, do they feel that they belong to in particular social group. Enter the Juggalo Nation. Here they now have a place they can fit in to, with people who are just as lost as they are.

The only up side to this Juggalo nonsense is that they may get just one less fewer ass kicking from the other kids.
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#15190 - 11/30/08 05:57 PM Re: Views on Juggaloism [Re: Phaethon]
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First off there is no "E" in the word "Juggalos". If you can't even spell it you give yourself away thet you're a fake-ass poser.

Second a Juggalo wouldn't try to validate himself on a Satanic board.

Third your post was a blatant cry for attention. You found a little bit of ICP online, thought it was funny then found a Satanic board and made a post.

Fourth you make those of us that are real Juggalos look like asses.

To sum it all up: GROW THE FUCK UP PHAETHON!


Now a little extra bit of info to dissuade the typical idea of a Juggalo. It should be obvious by now that I am proud to admit that I'm a Juggalo. But I'm not your typical wannabe-black asshole drugged out loser. I have culture. I read Shakespeare. I have seen the Nutcracker twice and Phantom of the Opera numerous times. I study philosophy. I'm learning electric guitar and bass. And as for music I listen to everything from classical to country to all forms of metal to ICP and others. So don't be so quick to judge all of us.
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