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#16593 - 12/20/08 04:05 PM Satanism vs. Nazism
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I have noticed something since joining this forum. It seems there is a close line between Satanism and neo-Nazism. Just curious to others thoughts on this.

The thought that we are a superior breed of people compared to the rest of the world is in close resemblance to Nazis' being superior to other races. The fact that in the topics of race many people here believe whites are the superior race.

There are even a few ideas expressed by LaVey, and all satanist, that are almost a direct quote from Hitlers' Mien Kampf. Such as responsibility to the responsible.

I'm not saying Satanist are Nazis', but does anyone see a similarity? Thoughts on that?

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#16595 - 12/20/08 05:17 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Butterz]
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It's a personal line, I think based more on individual thought.

From what I know and have experienced, Satanists come in all shapes and sizes and races. Hell, one of my favorite tattoo artists is a Israelie Satanist. He was born there, and his family still lives there. I think he's like 6'5". He's very cool, smart, and talented.

I believe that the individual Satanist (whatever name you want to fill in) should aspire to more. To be at least better than the crowd in some way.

I dont think any race is superior to any other. I have seen people do stupid, mean things, and race doesn't matter.

Idiots are Idiots.

Okay, sure. I've read the book (Mein Kampf), toss in Nietzsche, and Ragnar, ONA stuff, and etc. All a book does is give YOU information. What YOU choose to do with the information, and how YOU choose to interprete it, is up to YOU.

No one should be limited in their search for knowledge, no matter how fucked up or taboo the author is.

Besides, I thought the KKK & Nazis were mainly all of the Xitan outlook.

From a historical perspective, they did accomplish some goals, and I still believe that if he didn't wage a 2 front war, most of the world would be speaking German. That and as in another post, I do like the uniforms.

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#16602 - 12/21/08 04:53 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Butterz]
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With all due respect Butterz, I don’t think you are qualified to properly define either Nazism or Satanism. In order to compare the two you would need to understand both, and if you notice such a correlation, you clearly do not. At all.
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#16803 - 12/24/08 01:27 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Bacchae]
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The only similarity they share is a sort of elitism, yes, but then again name one group that DOESN'T think they're better than everybody else.

Other than that, they're almost opposites.

Satanism = Empowerment and Deification of the Individual Will... thinking for yourself/personal freedom.
Nazism = Submission of the individual will to that of the state (or more often, the dictator ruling it) ...massmind/herd mentality.

I'd go so far as to say that Nazism has more in common with Christianity and other monotheistic religions.
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#16807 - 12/24/08 02:10 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: The Zebu]
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Waaaaaaaay wrong butters. First, the nazis were ALL wrapped up in superstitions. I will not go into detail as it would take all fuckin' night. Look it up. Satanists are a bit more realistic than that. You are talking black and white here, as far as that is concerned. Do you really have any idea how many served in that uniform out of cowardice and fear? I mean really? Do I need to go on?



-That goes for any other uniform for that matter.


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#16827 - 12/24/08 09:24 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: blsk]
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Many people act as if Nazis suddenly appeared in the 30ies. It goes further back than the NSDAP, partly to a period right after losing the first war and a lot of elements even further back. The problem with most people is that they only know the conquered Nazi, the one depicted in the victor's multimedia propaganda. It's as if every uniform wearer is or was a rolemodel for nazism, or a monster to haunt the kids into embracing the victor's superb and unquestionable political religion.

Do I think nazism and Satanism is compatible? It's a silly question because nazism was a tool. Tools are always compatible.

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#17084 - 12/28/08 03:35 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Butterz]
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Years ago I became acquainted with a neo-Nazi type determined to convince me that Satanism and Nazism were one in the same. He spouted propaganda, statistics, pseudo-science and to the young and untrained ear it might have actually been a compelling argument. But of course you were only hearing one side of the story. Statistically, crimes are committed more against people of the same race (a black person robbing a black person) than they are committed interracially, but to listen to this guy speak you would think that there was some huge epidemic of white people being attacked by non-whites. Lies and propaganda. He’d talk about how unnatural it is to mate with a person of a different race, polluting the gene pool, genetic impurity, etc. In reality scientific studies have actually proven that interracial mating has numerous benefits, one of which is adaptation to fight disease.

Nazism is about blind hatred for anyone that happens to look different than you. It takes nothing into account when it comes to the person’s character. Satanism is the exact opposite in believing that a person’s character is the only thing that truly counts. Hitler did not care about “responsibility to the responsible,” he was an incestuous and impotent control freak who cared about domination and absolute power. There was nothing responsible about his actions. He acted out of the need for self-gratification without any concern for who got hurt in the process. Satanists may be a self-gratifying bunch, but not in such a warped and irresponsible manner. There may be an air of superiority in the minds of Satanists, but that has to do with intellect and reason and not some perversion that would suggest everyone around them should be made to blindly submit and experience absolute humiliation, followed by slaughter.

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#17089 - 12/28/08 05:20 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Succubus666]
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I don't think there is something like a Nazi philosophy. Nazism was a means to power and in that not different from any political movement. You tune in with the talk of times, use propaganda, populism and if you play the game well, you come to power. We act as if Nazism invented all the bad stuff of the previous century but everything was already there. If you start to trace it all back, through the Thule society, Germanenorden and such, it becomes plain obvious Nazis didn't invent as much as they were subject to. It's a gradual process and to a degree can be seen as the work of other people than Hitler himself. You can look at Hitler and see him as a puppet, follow the strings and you might find out the will behind it. Even if you don't like to look at it in that manner, you can't see it as a philosophy and the word Nazism is nothing but a hollow word, given power by the conquerer to serve his use.

To a degree it's the black sheep we condemn for the sins of all.

Like I said, I find the Satanism-nazism comparison silly, it's like asking if a painter is compatible with a broom. If it fits, of course he can use the broom but it's always the painter that has the choice, the broom doesn't have much say in it. You use it when it is handy, you drop it when not.

Personally I don't think the neo-Nazis really understand things. If they really grasped that it was only a means to power, they wouldn't walk around dressed up like little stormtroopers hailing HH and painting swastikas and 18 or 88 on their chest. No, they would wear suits, talk the talk of these days and smooth themselves into power. They're not a clever bunch at all, so if you'll find satanists in their circles, they either have a purpose and exploit it, or they aren't of the clever kind, which says a lot also.

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#17123 - 12/29/08 03:36 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Diavolo]
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Yeah, but not to "defend" Hitler... but he did bring a great sense of (albeit warped) "Nationality" to Germany. And I'm not going to go any further with that, because there are many of you out there that know a hell of a lot more than I do regarding this.

Otherwise, the acts, and consequences of those acts, helped shape the world we live in today - good or bad.
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#17548 - 01/03/09 10:59 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: daevid777]
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I'm a Satanist, and I identify with all of you that profess Satanism whether you like it or not. But, I felt a sense to respond for the 'scapegoats' that died at the malicious hands of the Nazi's. {I'm not associated with anyone that was caught in that predictament(to put it lightly).} Morally speaking, I don't know how such atrocities could be committed on another human being. The 'scapegoats' were war-torn, tired people that knew what they would confront when they were sent to a concentration camp, death. The Nazi's employed starvation all the way to placing the -goats in gas chambers as a means of tactics which, undoubtably, breaks the boundaries of mental health.

If there is a Hell (I like the term alter-universe), and I believe in one, the short guy with the dark brown hair and the cut-off mustache is suffering in it.
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#17550 - 01/03/09 11:11 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: paolo sette]
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If there is a Hell (I like the term alter-universe), and I believe in one

That is christian mythology. If you believe that you are a heretical christian.
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I'm a Satanist,

No, you aren't.
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#17551 - 01/03/09 11:23 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: blsk]
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 Originally Posted By: blsk
Waaaaaaaay wrong butters. First, the nazis were ALL wrapped up in superstitions. I will not go into detail as it would take all fuckin' night. Look it up. Satanists are a bit more realistic than that. You are talking black and white here, as far as that is concerned. Do you really have any idea how many served in that uniform out of cowardice and fear? I mean really? Do I need to go on?



-That goes for any other uniform for that matter.



Unless you can back those statements up, I'm throwing a bullshit flag right here.

In other words, yes. You need to go on. You need to back up what you're saying instead of just spouting unsubstantiated OPINIONS at us.


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#17556 - 01/04/09 06:09 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Opinions? Not seeing opinions here. This ain't fucking history class. If you don't believe something being presented as fact - go look it up. Look up Nazis on Wikipedia or something. Don't be just charging in here thinking you're a badass and throwing gratuitous bullshit flags.
Nazis WERE all into superstition, and they DID lead by fear (among other brilliant societal mindfucks). If you don't know that much about Nazis, you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and your bullshit flag shows YOU to be the fool. blsk isn't responsible for educating you on something that's pretty basic knowledge if you've studied history AT ALL.
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#17558 - 01/04/09 07:23 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Picunnus]
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Awwwh crap... here it comes...

(I thought this was locked?) speaking to myself again, not a good sign.

Go on, I think I'll close my eyes for a bit. I'm afraid... I guess that makes me a Nazi...
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#17559 - 01/04/09 08:50 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: daevid777]
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Satanism can refer to a number of belief systems depending on the user and context. The word, in basic context, can refer to the worship of the Christian devil, thus being a Christian denomination, the Occult/Ritual Magic, and the left hand path belief system founded by Anton LaVey. It is often the practice of any given Satanist not to refer to themselves with a hyphenated prefix. Each "type" of Satanist will usually refer to themselves only as Satanists. -Reference.com

Nazism, which was a short name for National Socialism (Nationalsozialismus), refers primarily to the ideology and practices of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party under Adolf Hitler; and the policies adopted by the government of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945, a period also known as the Third Reich. The official name of the party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) — “National Socialist German Workers’ Party”. The Nazis were one of several historical groups that used the term National Socialism to describe themselves, and in the 1920s they became the largest such group. Nazism is sometimes considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both political wings, it formed most of its alliances on the political right.. Among the key elements of Nazism were anti-parliamentarism, Pan-Germanism, racism, collectivism, eugenics, antisemitism, opposition to economic liberalism and political liberalism, anti-communism, and totalitarianism.
-Reference.com


Obvious differences. Simply read.....*mumbles* Dumb asses.

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#17560 - 01/04/09 09:26 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: HypnotizedHill]
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As has already been mentioned, most self proclaimed 'satanist' do not know enough about Satanism or Nazism to even begin to compare and contrast the two.

However, you will find quite a few devotes of the LHP who do share some Nazi sensibilities, ONA and Boyd Rice come immediately to mind.

It has been my experience that when a practitioner seems squeamish or repulsed by Nazi methodology, they often are harboring a lot of White Light Secular Humanist sentiments.

Now, if I may, I would like to throw a little fuel on this fire. Agree or disagree:

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

Or if you prefer the original text:

"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility."



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#17564 - 01/04/09 12:02 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Fist]
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"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

Just to play devils advocate here for a minute, why must we?

I could answer this myself, as I this is a statement I agree with, but I'd like to hear why you believe this. Not for the reasons given in the 'original text' I hope.
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#17566 - 01/04/09 12:27 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Fist]
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I'll disagree, as expected.

There are no our people in my view, even when using it in arguments about philosophy or culture, my identification with our is only at an abstract level. I live a life based upon tolerance but not in the philanthropic sense. In reality I am a fortified isle in a societal ocean. I have as much compassion for other people, including children, as I have for cockroaches. I think I prefer animals more than people, if not only for their disability to communicate to me, their incapability to show the shallowness of their being. A sentence like "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." feels overly idealistic to me, as if anyone included in our and white suddenly contains all the required parameters to feel worthy to me. They aren't and the whole idea of an artificial interruption to make sure no man, woman or child is left behind, as long as they are parametrically correct is, in my opinion, bordering mediocre stagnancy so heavily, it is disgusting.

I live in a society where dumbness is outbreeding smartness. I'll adapt. Brown might be outbreeding white. I'll adapt. Climate might change the environment. I'll adapt. Detonate an EMP at the right location and throw us back into the stone age. I'll adapt. No matter what happens, I'll adapt and I'll survive and I'll do my thing. And at no point I feel the need to pave the path for those not being able to pave it themselves. At no point I feel inclined to help those not being able to help themselves. If I can adapt and survive, all that are worthy can and those not able; collateral damage of historical events. Even if I end up being collateral damage, I could care less; après moi le déluge.

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#17568 - 01/04/09 01:11 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Diavolo]
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"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility."

To hell with "our" race and "our" people. The only thing I'd safeguard is my own existence and my own reproductive genes.
Only those things I'll safeguard. To hell with others. Whatever may come across my way, I'll adapt and learn to kick possible future obstacles out of my way if it may ever occur.
Only thing I hate about safeguarding my own future are the other people who always try to jump on the wagon or get their slice by secondary pathways.

Really, such things are proof of the weakening of our very own individualistic thinking and being.
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#17571 - 01/04/09 02:27 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dimitri]
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Hitler was a fan of the occult. He had astrologists on his payroll whom he contracted to determine what would be the right days for certain courses of action in the war based on planetary alignment etc.. Aside from that, I think most members of the National Socialist Party were Christians. There really was no room for free thinking individuals in that party.

In consideration of the neo-nazi movement that exists today I can see how the two might seem like they could work together. Both have an underlying elitist mentality, but that is where I think the similarities end. As has already been stated by a few different people; one involves mass herd conformity the other, the complete opposite.

As far as the "14 words" are concerned, I agree with Diavlo: "at no point I feel the need to pave the path for those not being able to pave it themselves. At no point I feel inclined to help those not being able to help themselves." I am also in full agreement with this statement as well: " I live a life based upon tolerance but not in the philanthropic sense. In reality I am a fortified isle in a societal ocean. I have as much compassion for other people, including children, as I have for cockroaches. I think I prefer animals more than people, if not only for their disability to communicate to me, their incapability to show the shallowness of their being."
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#17591 - 01/04/09 08:23 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Why are white people so special? Why be proud of being white? How can you possibly be proud for something that you didn't earn? Your parents just so happened to not have melanin in their skin, big deal. Even if your nationality has made priceless contributions to world culture and history, that doesn't change the fact that you're still a dumbass.

I'll be blunt here- why the fuck would anyone give a shit about one single "race", especially the "white race"? As Ayn Rand once said...

Even if it were proved -- which it is not -- that the incidence of men of potentially superior brain power is greater among the members of certain races than among the members of others, it would still tell us nothing about any given individual and it would be irrelevant to one's judgment of him. A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race -- and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin. It is hard to say which is the more outrageous injustice: the claim of Southern racists that a Negro genius should be treated as inferior because his race has "produced" some brutes -- or the claim of a German brute to the status of a superior because his race has "produced" Goethe, Schiller and Brahms.

If we lived in a truly eugenic society, we'd breed all the smartest people of all ethnicities together into a "true" master race... and this would consist of mostly Asians! (in addition to the geniuses of the White, Middle Eastern, African, and Latino stock)

Consequently, this new "master race" would be a giant mixed-race melting pot, but even though it would be the most genetically advantageous, the white supremacists would hate it simply because it's not white.

Then they act like the white race must be preserved for its' own sake, like we're some endangered species. Why the fuck does that matter? Who cares if we all evolve into squinty-eyed niggers? You may think it's unattractive, but by then, the squinty-eyed nigger look will be hot stuff.

"Racial pride" is just another useless sacred cow like "sanctity". And like all other sacred cows, it deserves no lother fate than to be excised and destroyed.
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#17595 - 01/04/09 09:18 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: The Zebu]
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Why be proud of being white? How can you possibly be proud for something that you didn't earn?

That is a song I have been singing for years. You can not possibly feel any genuine sense of 'pride' in something you had no hand in accomplishing yourself. 'white pride'/'black pride'/'hispanic pride' is all bullshit that the worthless can feel good about something.

But on the flip side pretending that we are all the same species of human is naive. There are marked, quantifiable differences that go way beyond skin color. Of course, we are all expected to pretend as if it were otherwise, but fuck what society expects us to think.
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#17596 - 01/04/09 09:23 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread

But on the flip side pretending that we are all the same species of human is naive.


Homo sapiens,not?
But of different races...
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#17599 - 01/04/09 09:45 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Woland]
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Well sure. Just as all dogs fall under the genealogical classification of 'Canis lupus familiaris', all humans fall under the classification of 'Homo sapiens sapiens'.

It remains that a pitbull and a poodle are not the same dog.
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#17601 - 01/04/09 09:53 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
It remains that a pitbull and a poodle are not the same dog.


In a sense correct.
They are individuals...
Of the same species.
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#17602 - 01/04/09 09:55 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Woland]
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Oh come on now. Are you really going to sit on that perch way up there?

I'm not even going to bother.
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#17604 - 01/04/09 10:05 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Oh come on now. Are you really going to sit on that perch way up there?

I'm not even going to bother.


I would like to point out that I origin from a long & proud lineage of dedicated pillar-saints!



 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
There are marked, quantifiable differences that go way beyond skin color.


Was kinda wondering about this one.
Care to be more specific?
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#17606 - 01/04/09 10:46 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Woland]
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Well, certainly. We have things such as physical characteristics, average size, build, mannerisms and aptitudes. We also have things such as measurable and statistically proven differences in academic performance and IQ.

Unless you don't believe in evolution, I am just talking about the logical endgame to having followed different evolutionary paths in the last 10,000 years or so. After all, the earth has many diverse climates and environments which supported humans during all that time. It would be a bit odd if there wasn't any diversity, wouldn't you think?
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#17607 - 01/04/09 11:08 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Theoretically, there is always a possibility of a race-intelligence correlation. But how much bearing this has in practice is debatable.

It boils down to the nature-nurture question. There are many sensitive issues present in our society, such as the blaringly uncomfortable fact that most incarcerated criminals are black.

Now is this because there is something inherent in African genealogy that drives them to criminal behavior? Or is it because their are problems in their culture and upbringing? The latter seems a likely answer, but before we jump to the conclusion that such societal problems are the symptom of "inferior" genes, consider that Africans of other upbringings and cultures (Direct African/Caribbean immigrants, African-Europeans, etc) do not show the same trends.

If there are any differences in "racial intelligence disposition"- which has not been proven- then they are too negligibly small to be of any significance.

I'm gonna be honest here, it kinda seems like a pointless debate... unless some fags from Stormfront or JoS show up in this thread.


Edited by The Zebu (01/04/09 11:09 PM)
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#17611 - 01/05/09 12:20 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: The Zebu]
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friendly admin reminder: this thread is going off topic.

what is it with racial issues that gets everyone so worked up around here?
funny.

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#17616 - 01/05/09 02:19 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Bacchae]
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 Originally Posted By: Bacchae
friendly admin reminder: this thread is going off topic.

what is it with racial issues that gets everyone so worked up around here?
funny.


Well; I see racism as a key element in Nazism.
I also see it as contrary to Satanism as I understand it.
I will continue to adress the question until the ruler is brought out of the drawer and unleashed upon my lilywhite bottom.

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#17618 - 01/05/09 03:28 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Woland]
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How can you say Nazi's follow the herd and Satanist don't? Now I know that statement is gonna piss people off, but I have a point. Satanist are supposed to be individuals on our own path, right? But the general rules or basis of what Satanism is has already been established and accepted. So really it's just another herd. We're all on basically the same path just different mile markers.

Both groups believe they are elite. Both groups have "icons" and followers. It's obvious there are differences. Also there are many similarities as far as structure and organization go. Both groups have the "gun ho" this is my life type of people, and the wanderers whom just go through it like a fad or trend. Both parties have a strong disgust for the people who don't think they same way. The similarities are even stronger with the current neo-nazi. Both groups agree, for the most part, on issues like border patrol, ideal governments, foreign policies, and so on.

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#17619 - 01/05/09 03:34 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Picunnus]
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 Originally Posted By: Picunnus
Opinions? Not seeing opinions here. This ain't fucking history class. If you don't believe something being presented as fact - go look it up. Look up Nazis on Wikipedia or something. Don't be just charging in here thinking you're a badass and throwing gratuitous bullshit flags.
Nazis WERE all into superstition, and they DID lead by fear (among other brilliant societal mindfucks). If you don't know that much about Nazis, you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and your bullshit flag shows YOU to be the fool. blsk isn't responsible for educating you on something that's pretty basic knowledge if you've studied history AT ALL.


Don't be stupid. I can sit here and tell you that Nazis were into natural health remedies but it doesn't mean shit if I cannot back it up. You're right, it's not history class, but it is a forum that prides itself on INTELLIGENT conversation. If you cannot back up your claims, your claims don't count. It's as simple as that.

And I don't have to look it up. He is the one making the claim (and now you, too) so one of YOU have to look it up and YOU have to give me the references. It's your job to defend your statements, not my job to figure out what in the hell you are saying and then figure out which defense you are using and then argue the point I think you are trying to make.

You and the other one say that Nazis led by fear. Okay, prove it. You say they were superstitious, what specifically were they superstitious about? If you can't back up what you claim (and so far, neither of you have) then, yes, it's bullshit.

I have yet to see either one of you give me an example.

And if you want to believe that I know nothing about Nazis and racism, fine by me. Get off your lazy ass and state an example and I'll be more than happy to give you ten (more) examples of how you are both morons.

If you want to make a claim of any kind, YOU ARE responsible for educating.

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I give the best blowjobs EVER.
Hitler often gave to charities.
You can clean bloodstains off your walls with white vinegar and laundry detergent.

I'm not going to go into detail about all of those statements because it would take all night. If you don't know that these are all facts, you need to go look them up.

You see how that works?

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#17622 - 01/05/09 04:36 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: ceruleansteel]
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 Originally Posted By: ceruleansteel

Rabbit meat tastes good.
I give the best blowjobs EVER.
Hitler often gave to charities.
You can clean bloodstains off your walls with white vinegar and laundry detergent.

I'm not going to go into detail about all of those statements because it would take all night.


I have time. really. go ahead.


Ok. While im waiting, I’ll jump back to the original topic. Nazism was a political movement, a tool as another poster said. National socialism, or what Nazism has evolved into today, is not the same as good old socialism, and neither of those are exactly conducive to Satanism per say.
That said, they are not diametrically opposed either, because a Real Satanist is an individual that is able to blend, survive, and succeed. You could be a Satanist in prison, or in church camp, or in a cubicle at a boring job, or under an oppressive regime.

Too often Nazis are considered simple jew haters led by a madman. Let us not forget the entire concept of blood and soil, or the desperate need of a people to rebuild a destroyed nation that was essentially a punching bag for a few years.
Pre WWII german economy was not even comparable to todays worldwide credit crisis..

Regardless, I am thinking the thread starter here was not so much asking about Nazism or fascism as a viable system for satanic livelihood as much as he is wondering about groups like ONA.. or perhaps a few longhairs with corpsepaint that draw swastikas on their amplifiers.

As I said in the very beginning, there’s no connection. There’s misanthropes and Satanists and racists, and sometimes they all meet in the middle and form sad hateful people that live in their parents basements.

There is also gay satanic groups. That doesn’t make all Satanists latently homosexual. Just a few on this board.

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#17623 - 01/05/09 04:39 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: ceruleansteel]
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 Originally Posted By: ceruleansteel

Rabbit meat tastes good.
I give the best blowjobs EVER.
Hitler often gave to charities.
You can clean bloodstains off your walls with white vinegar and laundry detergent.


Dear ceruleansteel.
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#17624 - 01/05/09 04:54 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Butterz]
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 Originally Posted By: Butterz
How can you say Nazi's follow the herd and Satanist don't?


Excuse me?

 Originally Posted By: Butterz
Satanist are supposed to be individuals on our own path, right? But the general rules or basis of what satanism is has already been established and accepted. So really it's just another herd. We're all on basically the same path just different mile markers.


We are most definitely not.
To quote the poet:

I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.

 Originally Posted By: Butterz
Both groups believe they are elite.


Most groups believe they are "elite".

 Originally Posted By: Butterz
Both groups have "icons" and followers.


So does any half-decent football team.

 Originally Posted By: Butterz
Also there are many similarities as far as structure and organization go.


Really? You mean like in a group of people?
Wow...

Secret handshakes?
Funny hats?


 Originally Posted By: Butterz
Both groups have the "gun ho" this is my life type of people, and the wanderers whom just go through it like a fad or trend.


So does "The Yankees".
("Gung Ho", young man.)

 Originally Posted By: Butterz
The similarities are even stronger with the current neo-nazi. Both groups agree, for the most part, on issues like border patrol, ideal governments, foreign policies, and so on.


Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.
Stupidity is contagious.

Go forth...
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#17637 - 01/05/09 11:42 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Woland]
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"Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups."

Yes it is and it happens all the time, tiny worlds are created in the mind and are further justified by all the mechanics of the self preservation instinct. When steaming something in a pressure cooker, make sure the steam release valve moves freely and easily, otherwise it might explode causing serious burns, tiny sacs of flesh filled with corrective salinic fluids.

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#18933 - 01/25/09 10:56 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Cody]
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Based on my observations and - mostly undeveloped - thoughts, I would say that Satanism is not Nazism, but there is certainly a correspondence between Satanists and racism and fascist tendencies, especially in comparison to other occult orders.

Edited by H.setesh (01/25/09 10:59 PM)

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#18935 - 01/25/09 11:20 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: H.setesh]
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I guess it depends how you categorize 'race'. Satanists are not bound by the sacred cows we are handed and should be generally impervious to being browbeaten into accepting certain premises.

A lot of Satanist then would admit that racial differences go a little deeper than superficial.

But 'racial superiority' goes against the core idea of Satanism, which is about individual superiority. The herd comes in all colors. So do Satanists.
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#18953 - 01/26/09 01:39 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Dan maybe you should re-read your post in the Ebonible thread. You know where you say that other races aren't capable of thinking on the same level as whites. Something to do with genetics. I think everyone would agree intelligence is a large part of Satanism, so how could other "colors" really be satanist if there not that smart.
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#18961 - 01/26/09 06:32 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Butterz]
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I personally am bigoted against stupidity and don't care at all about race. President 43 was a stupid white man and I would have cheered if someone had shoved him into a gas chamber. President 44 is a smart black man and because he is smart I am at peace with his ascendancy. None of what I just said has anything at all to do with party ideology. I simply despise stupid people and respect smart people.

Ask a Nazi, "Whom do you despise and why?" Then ask a Satanist the same question. I predict divergence in the answers unless one of the two decides to lie.

I think some Satanists like to utter Nazi slogans because those slogans are politically incorrect and some Satanists enjoy being politically incorrect. It's a game they play for their own amusement.

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#18965 - 01/26/09 08:11 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Zoid]
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 Quote:

You know where you say that other races aren't capable of thinking on the same level as whites.

Uhh what? I think you better double check your reading comprehension. I certainly have never said that.

The closest thing to that I may have said is that there is a measurable IQ variance between races,but white people aren't at the top of that scale, asians are. Also, that is a general rule, to which there are many exceptions. There are brilliant people of all races. There are also idiots of all races.

You are evidence of one of these statements, care to guess which?
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#19110 - 01/27/09 09:27 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Zoid]
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I think some Satanists like to utter Nazi slogans because those slogans are politically incorrect and some Satanists enjoy being politically incorrect. It's a game they play for their own amusement.


Satanists are purposely politically incorrect for their own amusement? Are you serious? What about logic? Satanist may do many things for their amusement, as most human beings...But being politically incorrect on purpose and in public? Since when do Satanists find it fun to sound stupid? I always thought the Satanic thing to do is to shut up and listen to what you don't know and learn from it, not to make yourself look like an idiot and "utter Nazi slogans" for the sake of being looked upon as an idiot. And for their own amusement? That would just be degrading and make them look like a fool.

Dan is right, pick the statement that best describes you and then prove it to us just for the fun of it all.
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#19111 - 01/27/09 09:53 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Mike]
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Satanists are purposely politically incorrect for their own amusement? Are you serious? What about logic? Satanist may do many things for their amusement, as most human beings...But being politically incorrect on purpose and in public? Since when do Satanists find it fun to sound stupid?

Being politically incorrect on purpose doesn't mean you might sound stupid. You merely can give the impression towards the other persons, but if you are quite intelligent, a fluent speaker, and know a thing or two about what you are speaking of, you might give quite a show.

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I always thought the Satanic thing to do is to shut up and listen to what you don't know and learn from it, not to make yourself look like an idiot and "utter Nazi slogans" for the sake of being looked upon as an idiot. And for their own amusement? That would just be degrading and make them look like a fool.

Some people tend to think they are wise by chanting enochian keys they made themselves wherein they crave for something.
Same principle, other views. Don't care really..
And yes there are some Satanist Nazi, just as there are Nazi Christians. Both groups are to spit upon. But hey, it doesn't mean they can provide fun in some way.
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#19113 - 01/27/09 10:17 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dimitri]
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You merely can give the impression towards the other persons, but if you are quite intelligent, a fluent speaker, and know a thing or two about what you are speaking of, you might give quite a show.


I suppose...But bullshitting and being politically incorrect for your own amusement are two different things.

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And yes there are some Satanist Nazi, just as there are Nazi Christians. Both groups are to spit upon. But hey, it doesn't mean they can provide fun in some way.


Fun to us? Yes. But if they really do believe in what they're preaching, how is it amusing to them?
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#19114 - 01/27/09 10:28 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Mike]
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Fun to us? Yes. But if they really do believe in what they're preaching, how is it amusing to them?

Ever heard of "ego-petting"? It's the same thing why some people like to fuck. Or the same reason why people like to drive on sunday in their nice outfit....
They got their reasons, ask them if you encounter them.
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#19115 - 01/27/09 11:01 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dimitri]
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I figured preaching beliefs would be more of a serious matter as in people speaking to inform others rather than amuse ones self, but I see what you're point.
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#19116 - 01/27/09 11:02 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Mike]
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Man...Another thread that strayed horribly off topic.
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#19178 - 01/28/09 06:58 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Dimitri]
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 Originally Posted By: Dimitri

Being politically incorrect on purpose doesn't mean you might sound stupid. You merely can give the impression towards the other persons, but if you are quite intelligent, a fluent speaker, and know a thing or two about what you are speaking of, you might give quite a show.


I agree. The Satanist who feels utter contempt for those in the immediate vicinity might choose to play this role to pass the time, rather than give a pearl of truth to swine.

Meanhile, eugenics in the hands of a Nazi would tend toward white skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes, plus other attributes, such as athletic prowess and high intelligence. Eugenics in the hands of a Satanist would tend toward high intelligence and probably athletic prowess but wouldn't necessarily tend toward white skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes. Maybe the difference is only a subtle one. Both would employ eugenics if the opportunity arose. Neither subscribes to the proposition that every human being has an inalienable and unassailable right to reproduce. Eugenics is a point of intersection between the two philosophies. The devil is in the details.

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#19180 - 01/28/09 07:32 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Zoid]
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Hy!
Satanism means liberty and freedom, to be yourself to get your own experiences.Nazism makes you a slave, with a number on your arm ( to prisonner) or under the arm, to Waffen SS member.But your are a toy in his hands.Just have look on Hitler photo (or Himmler or Goebbels) how they were aryan faces! Just Goebbels children were beautiful.But He prefers to give death to them.Why did'nt he give them life? TRUE LIFE, FULL LIFE;dead is the end of this body!
Shaïtan surely smiles!...As A.S.LaVey wrote :" true witches were certainely in the bed with Priest of Inquisition, not on the fire!" Satanism IS LIFE!

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#19264 - 01/29/09 06:22 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Mike]
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Being politically correct all the time is either a sign that you accept the current status of your world and all that is in it OR that you're a coward.
I am quite sick of the way everything has to be presented in a politically correct fashion. Everyone has to feel good, every man has to be pleased and no feelings should ever get hurt.
That way a lot of important issues are being left unsaid, and thus unattended.
Now I understand that you don't maybe have the power/opportunity to be politically incorrect in a productive way, with all your life's decisions still ahead of you and you need to be careful of what you say. But sometimes the incorrect is in the end the only correct thing to say. Because sometimes creating controversy is the most effective means to actually get people thinking about what is being said. Some might find truth in what is being said, some might oppose but at least someone's thinking...

Just a quick thought on the matter, my brains have been slumbering too long so I thought I'd come out of my cave ;\)

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#19268 - 01/29/09 07:26 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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Be yourself, to follow our own road, is it to be accepted by the world? What importance is to you, to be accepted or not?"..."I AM what I am AS simply AS I AM!"
What does it means, "world"? In Tarot, it is "word" with an "L", between the "r" and the "d":
L=30;R=90;D=4.( western or roman alphabet).
L,30 means a fall, a hanged man-or girl-it is appearance ( as Odin did in Nordic Mythology) to RECEIVE the "Knowledge".
Sometime when you get at calm is it more impressive than when you are angry and full of hate ,without control of your self!
Your ennemy will be more attentive and impressed by your calm attitude,because you will be able to know how and where you can beat it!( Fear is natural, it is just necessary to learn how to control it)
Knowledge is a long way.It is on the way (road), in the way - her nature- and it is the way (DO/ Aïki-do/Ju-Do/Karate-Do...)and the way is a step foward! (as Lao Tse said)
Violence is a wrong direction ( it is my opinion) But it is not necessary to abdicate or to renounce.Be yourself and keep promesse of the true life! Massacre is an-ti-the-sis of Satanism.It is Nazism and insanity (folishness)!
Politics, religions, ideals are made to keep you under control.
The danger of this time is the Worlwide goodwill to make a better world with absolute security, with One Super Power (What sort of?)created by habits ( Bank card/ wellfare office card/ job's card, political card/ family card...etc...) will be, a day, converted into one little micro chip which some power will obliger to wear or to be put into babies skin without advertissement ( advertising?).
It will become soon.Actualy all is done by worldwide governments ( as French gov.)to prepare a "better world" ( Aldous Huxley)!Be ready to survive!

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#83437 - 12/18/13 10:41 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: HypnotizedHill]
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The parallel you see is probably the brutality of logic.


One line posts are frowned upon here. Morgan


Edited by Morgan (12/20/13 10:35 PM)
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#84045 - 01/17/14 12:25 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Praetus]
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My stance is despite their ethnic handicap life would be more boring without coloured people, their rough rhythmic music, their garish attire make me smile and others should smile as well.

Edited by DJHezron (01/17/14 12:26 PM)

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#84090 - 01/17/14 09:34 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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 Originally Posted By: MaggotFaceMoe
Being politically correct all the time is either a sign that you accept the current status of your world and all that is in it OR that you're a coward.
I am quite sick of the way everything has to be presented in a politically correct fashion. Everyone has to feel good, every man has to be pleased and no feelings should ever get hurt.
That way a lot of important issues are being left unsaid, and thus unattended.
Now I understand that you don't maybe have the power/opportunity to be politically incorrect in a productive way, with all your life's decisions still ahead of you and you need to be careful of what you say. But sometimes the incorrect is in the end the only correct thing to say. Because sometimes creating controversy is the most effective means to actually get people thinking about what is being said. Some might find truth in what is being said, some might oppose but at least someone's thinking...


Nice, MFM!

The increasing requirement for an individual to 'have the right never to be offended ever' is a move that will unwittingly serve to bring about social homogeneity - the very state the whiners intend to avoid. It must be accepted in a society that purports to defend an individual's right to be different that, inevitably, some ideas will be imiscible.
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#84101 - 01/18/14 10:03 AM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Siz]
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 Originally Posted By: DJHezron
My stance is despite their ethnic handicap life would be more boring without coloured people, their rough rhythmic music, their garish attire make me smile and others should smile as well.

Congratulations, your comments have achieved the rank of Unfunny, Pointless Racism!

 Originally Posted By: Siz
The increasing requirement for an individual to 'have the right never to be offended ever' is a move that will unwittingly serve to bring about social homogeneity - the very state the whiners intend to avoid. It must be accepted in a society that purports to defend an individual's right to be different that, inevitably, some ideas will be imiscible.

Yes, so many just don't get this. You won't always agree with what someone says, and that's not even a bad thing. One should expose themselves to a multitude of perspectives if only to reaffirm that their own opinion is valid; closed minds with open mouths cause most of society's tediously over aggressive non-issues.

 Originally Posted By: Zoid
Both would employ eugenics if the opportunity arose. Neither subscribes to the proposition that every human being has an inalienable and unassailable right to reproduce. Eugenics is a point of intersection between the two philosophies. The devil is in the details.

Okay, I know this was posted a long time ago, but seriously - what? I'm not convinced that Satanism and eugenics go quite as hand-in-hand as is being suggested here. Without genetic underachievers who will bag my groceries, clean my car and die their thousands while building my palace?

Joking aside, until robotics and artificial intelligence progresses to a point where unskilled humans labourers are no longer necessary or economically viable then eugenics is incredibly unappealing to me. Personally, I don't plan for my own eugenics program to go beyond the fact that some fairly dumb women are also quite pretty and I wouldn't mind sticking my dick in them.

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#84179 - 01/19/14 02:30 PM Re: Satanism vs. Nazism [Re: Zoid]
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 Originally Posted By: Zoid
Eugenics in the hands of a Satanist would tend toward high intelligence and probably athletic prowess but wouldn't necessarily tend toward white skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes.

Bald heads, goatees, vestigial tails, and yellow cat's eyes in males. No particular modifications for females, though big hooters are always a religious atmosphere enhancement for nude altars.
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