#1721 - 11/10/07 09:31 PM
Consciousness-altering movies
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Meq
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Has anyone here ever seen a section of a film which transformed their consciousness, giving a temporary glimpse into new ways of looking at reality which jolts you out of your habitual way of perceiving the world?
A section in Matrix Reloaded had that effect on me.
The scene where Neo flies at break-neck speed just before he catches Trinity.
It's just digital effects, but the whole aesthetic effect of the scene brought me into a temporary trance-like state.
With my background in hypnosis, I can see how those movies incorporate a practical application of psychology to create the maximum psychological buzz in the viewer - whether the movie is viewed as just a fun action flick, or something deeper...
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#2058 - 11/19/07 10:15 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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For sheer headfuck, try Freddy Got Fingered.
I found What The Bleep! to be a consciousness-altering movie (treat it with a grain of salt, though). The Butterfly Effect also had a very hypnotic effect.
As for conspiracy, check out The God Who Wasn't There.
It explores the theory that Jesus never existed as a human being, and the Church covered this up by fraud.
This one, however, does seem credible. It certainly casts doubt on the Church's official history of early Christianity, and reveals the ignorance of modern Christians of their religion's real origins.
A testament to the success of the Roman Church's propaganda?
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#2098 - 11/20/07 11:34 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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after wathcing requiem i had a viod in me for a good part of the night so blank, was an intesting feeling and the climax of that movie, epic to say the least. that movie takes you on a ride ,ups ,downs then nothing. so deffintly consciousness altering for me at least. and still one of my all time favorite shows
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#2119 - 11/21/07 07:13 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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Fight Club is pretty good, the headfuck rating is high and it has a lot of philosophical content and nonconformist social commentary to boot.
The Sixth Sense was pretty good too... the mind-bending twist goes without saying, especially if one realises its implications!
I also liked Twelve Monkeys. Great use of flashback, and more than a little mind-bending.
Though getting on a bit now in terms of political commentary, South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut (1999) remains a classic comedy to be enjoyed on many levels, from sophisticated satire to its more puerile moments.
As for its effects on human consciousness - well, it haunted my dreams for years!
(Team America brought the political commentary up to date post 9/11, as did later South Park episodes, but BLU remains my undeniable favourite from that stable...)
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#2830 - 12/20/07 03:30 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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The selections have been very good so far.
Fight club was easily one of the best comedies of all time. "What the %#*&!(bleep) do we know? is another worthy mention.
No one mentioned pay it forward. For me that was the ultimate "headfuk" so much so that even today its mention brings me right back to that same frustration I felt when I watched it. That movie was beautiful because the unfortunate end was a shocker. Secondly it showed me what a sap I am in even giving a shit about the kid, which is awsome when a film can crack into your being and show you something about yourself you didn't see. Big tough Satanist 
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#2882 - 12/23/07 08:02 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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Yes.
Mullholland Drive, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Wild at Heart, all by David Lynch.
A Clockwork Orange, 2001:A Space Odyssey, Eyes Wide Shut-Stanley Kubrick
Rosemary's Baby, The Ninth Gate-Roman Polanski
Performance-Nicolas Roeg
The Song Remains the Same
Those are a few of my favourite mind-altering celluloid trips.
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#2884 - 12/23/07 11:00 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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Full Metal Jacket, The Mephisto Waltz, Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, Memento, Traces Of Death, Lost Highway, Tommy, Kwaheri:island of the witch doctor (doc), Frailty, Strangeland, The Hills Have Eyes (remake), The Exorcist, The Hitch-Hikers Guide To The Galaxy, Sinthia the Devil's Doll, Down The Rabbit Hole (What The *Bleep* Do We Really Know?), Natural Born Killers, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, The Hole.
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#2890 - 12/24/07 08:07 AM
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"A Beautiful Mind" with Russell Crowe is a vivid portrayal of a genius mind struggling with schizophrenic psychosis, as well as (largely) a true story.
This guy still suffers from schizophrenic symptoms (such as hallucinations of people), but manages to keep the effects of this under control.
"Pi" is also a mind-bending look at the human mind, with its story of a genius mathematician and references to the Pythagoreans (correctly mentioning how they used to worship numbers).
Some classic Disney stuff can also be a bit headfuck, if you think about it (think of the 'pink elephants' scene in Dumbo - later printed on LSD tabs)...
I also witnessed foreign students at Leeds University watch "The Wizard of Oz" whilst playing the album "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd (while indulging in a little herbal beverage). Apparently this involves incredible synchronicities...
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#2898 - 12/24/07 02:20 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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Oh, I forgot a couple of short films, namely Kenneth Anger's Lucifer Rising and Invocation of My Demon Brother.
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#2997 - 12/30/07 03:50 AM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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Movies have a deeper baseline than that of aesthetic effect. However, aesthetic effect is a very desirable characteristic of movies. For example, Alien is a film about a family who's father has an incestuous relationship with his children and impregnates his female siblings. Once the mother figures out what is going on, she begins to commit infanticide. That is why the Nostromo's onboard computer is called Mother. The matrix is manifestation of Rene Descartes philosophical statement, “I think so therefore I am”. Movies will change your entire physique and also give details of events and circumstances your only familiar with.
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#6399 - 03/26/08 01:34 AM
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Animatrix was a trip...
I agree with all the listed movies...Especially the directors cut of Donnie Darko.
Jacob's ladder: Fucking badass. A rare gem. I actually found out about it from a vampire role playing game guide on..."Movies to read as resources to grasp what it is like to be crazy."
Fear and loathing.
Why are we forgetting Trainspotting?
I saw clockwork orange...The first time I was really really fucking high. In fact the first time I EVER got high. And I must admit it is completely twisted.
A scanner Darkly also gets progressively more twisted and is much much more interesting than another animated film called
"The Waking life." which should have been called "Conversations about existentialism."
And a recent one.
The Secret science of sleep. It touches on some common thought tricks. And relies on them.
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#6400 - 03/26/08 01:42 AM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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were talking about the original Wicker man right?
The twist was beautiful in that movie.(not to mention the ass shaking.) I think the director should have tried to make a adaptation of "The Magus".
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#6433 - 03/26/08 06:35 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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I just remembered another.
The Cell
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#6640 - 03/29/08 05:14 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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I watched ALTERED STATES for the first time very recently and found some of he trippy dream sequences timeless and very hypnotic.
As for conspiracy stuff.. check out ZEITGEIST.
Split into 4 parts the first focus's on Christianity.. VERY easy to absorb and presented superbly.
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#6817 - 03/31/08 07:18 AM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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I watched that movie Requiem for a Dream when i was stoned. It was really great, worth a look for sure.
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#6830 - 03/31/08 10:45 AM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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Oh it suuuure did. But yeah, the first time i saw it i wasnt on anything and it was good then too.
Man, Half Baked is awesome. xD You gotta love some of the so called "moral" points in the movie. Which go something like
1. If you havent sucked dick for marijuana youre not addicted
2. Weed is great. But pussy is better.
I didnt find it that trippy tho, more funny.
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#6958 - 04/01/08 06:52 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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Many great movies mentioned in here so far.
My picks for consciousness altering movies include (and I know some have been mentioned already):
The God Who Wasn't There- Brilliant documentary, some real good stuff in there
What The Bleep Do We Know- Nice take on Quantum Mechanics though I agree do not take this to seriously
Zeitgeist- Ever wonder what truth really is?
As far as fiction goes:
Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas is a fantastic ride into drug binge fantasy
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory- nothing beats an everlasting gobstopper
and the top pick for head trip flick:
House of 1000 Corpses- it takes all the typical horror film characters and throws them all into one twisted pile and throws some nice curves at you.
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#8714 - 05/16/08 04:19 AM
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I'm of the opinion that all movies should in some way be consciousness altering. within the first 10 minutes if I dont feel my soul rising, falling, or spinning, I turn it off.
thats said, heres a quick and dirty few that do it for me:
Santa Sangre. directed by the Master Alejandro Jodorowsky. it defies description. also Holy Mountain and El Topo by the same. incredible.
Alucarda, directed by Juan Moctezuma, who was actually an acolyte of Jodorowsky. mexican bloody nun horror.
The Saddest Music in the World. directed by Guy Maddin. this guy has a HUGE catalog of features, shorts, collaborations, and writing credits. he is apparently not only a work machine, but also funded by the canadian government or something. if you like going WTF, then find his films.
Dead Man. directed by Jim Jarmusch. the whole movie is like looking through a trunk of old junk with tears in your eyes and you dont quite know why or if you even awake. best soundtrack ever too.
Dellamorte Dellamore, directed by Michele Soavi. also known in the states as Cemetery Man, this is the last and arguably the greatest of the Italian Giallo masterpieces. If you ever think about having sex with a corpse, and who doesnt, then put it on the top of your list. its surreal and beautiful.
the 300.
I am considering this as consciousness altering because no matter how many times I see it, I want to do sit-ups and beat someone down afterwards. this is a movie for Men. despite its mainstream slickness it speaks to our inherent bloodlust and urges us all to grow gnarly beards.
Night of the Living Dead by Romero. Dawn of the Dead, the more recent 2004 version. its hard to narrow down the most mind blowing zombie movies, because they are all just special in their own ways, but these 2 embody the bleakness and utter hopelessness of an impending apocalypse. I felt both of the 28 days/weeks Later movies were excellent as well, but there is still an element of order and sanity that runs through them. the 2 "dead" films mentioned capture what happens when the world dies, the dead rise, and the survivors exist solely by instinct alone.
Mulholland Dr. david lynch. its all trippy and weird and better than his last, Inland Empire, but not as good as Blue Velvet, as far as narrative and cohesiveness. I don't think Lynch cares about such concepts anymore. I certainly don't. I do wish he would get off his "films about films and set in southern california" thing though. whatever. its an awesome movie.
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#12725 - 10/15/08 07:08 PM
Re: Consciousness-altering movies
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The Usual Suspects
Pulp Fiction
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#20683 - 02/18/09 03:10 AM
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Movies that left me with that 'whoa' feeling(list not exhaustive);
Requiem for a Dream
Cannibal Holocaust
Irreversible
Dawn of the Dead (70s)
Second everything except RFAD and Dawn. They left me entirely apathetic, and pissed off at being alive. Irreversible and Cannibal Holocaust, however, made me pissed off at being human.
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#22819 - 04/02/09 08:39 PM
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I agree with whoever said Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was a consciousness-altering movie. I'd also put Dr. Strangelove and V for Vendetta on that list. I don't know if animated movies count, but if they do, Ghost in the Shell and Akira expanded my mind like nothing else.
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#23658 - 04/22/09 05:40 AM
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jacob's ladder and a clockwork orange are two of my favorite movies. they certainly make one think about our shameful present (the former film) and terrifying future (latter).
as far as something that actually changed my perception of the world, videodrome has to be it. a lot of movies have changed my world view, enlightened me, made me think really hard, etc. cronenberg's videodrome made me physically see things in the outside world that aren't there. at least i think they're not. they're not, right? i still sometimes think there are televisions inside me. they're everywhere.
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#23660 - 04/22/09 06:22 AM
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some people were discussing last temptation of christ as well, and wanted to know it's basis. it's based off the book of the same name by kazantzakis (zorba the greek). a sort of fantasy: what if satan offered christ a chance at a normal life with mary? jesus, like all people, was subject to temptation. naturally this concept provoked extreme censorship of the novel and film.
i also saw someone really liked sweeney todd, and was considering purchasing the movie. i realize i'm responding a year too late, but before you go out and buy the johnny depp movie, get your mitts on a copy of the 1982 production with george hearn and angela lansbury. this is the original cast, and hearn is the greatest sweeney that ever lived. your ears will thank you.
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#86412 - 04/10/14 04:07 PM
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I’ve seen Scorses’s Cape Fear over 50 times in the past few weeks. I guess you can say this produced a desired effect on me. I’m gonna watch it again within a few minutes, it’s not over…, Max is your do right man! Later.
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