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#50932 - 03/13/11 09:17 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: Nyte]
The Zebu Offline
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I'm in a dark-electro band, go clubbing sometimes, and don't mind dressing the part for such special occasions (usually plain black clothing and standard-issue army boots); but my gripe is generally against those that constantly wear over-the-top, mass-produced "goth" clothing deliberately to attract unwarranted attention or as a baiting tactic. Those that call themselves Satanists often rely on flashy dress and gothed-up Myspace profiles to hide the fact that they've just swapped out one herd for another.

My prejudice against Tripp pants in general is an innocuous little dogma I've developed over years of running into assembly-line Hot Topic kids claiming to be anticonformists. In the end, of course, I admit it is a personal gripe and there can be exceptions. Maybe I'm just a bitter old man... oh wait, just hit 22, sorry.

Guess I should stop fooling myself and just break out the suspenders and cowhide flatcap.


Edited by The Zebu (03/13/11 09:24 PM)
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#50938 - 03/13/11 10:08 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: The Zebu]
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I understand your gripe Zebu. There are those that do tend to ruin something like that for everyone else. I happen to appreciate the group of "goth kids" I've met through the years because they are what I would consider the "real deal". Their reasonings are very pure for themselves and I can understand that. I have met a few that are exactly like you describe and they annoy the hell out of me. They're usually the loud mouths that try to be the center of attention at all times, clothing doesn't matter. Needless to say, they get weeded from the group as well and it usually doesn't take long.

You're just old before your time and that's cool. My other half is too.

I was "punk" before being punk was the "in" thing, so I enjoy the extremes. I did it because I loved the mix of colors and hated the pastels of the "preppy" and "jock" look. Pink Converse high tops, leggins with a mini skirt and of course, tons of colored bracelets. Even shaved steps into the side of my hair and colored them before the "hair" bands started doing it. I thought my mom was going to have a heart attack but it was SOOO worth it! I still enjoy lots of fun things like that. Hell, I airbrush my oldest son's mohawk (there's a funny story and pic behind that one!).

I wanna see the pic of suspenders and flatcap. ;\)
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#50949 - 03/13/11 11:50 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: The Zebu]
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 Originally Posted By: The Zebu
Guess I should stop fooling myself and just break out the suspenders and cowhide flatcap.


Oh cool, are suspenders back in style? I think I still have some leopard-skin ones from the 80s ...

This means that leg-warmers will be back, which I don't like so much, and Big Country will get radio play again, which I do

As to the actual topic, no, in public I'm just me. There are too many preconceived notions, and I don't have the time or inclination to explain (which most wouldn't listen to anyway).
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#50954 - 03/14/11 12:41 AM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: The Zebu]
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My prejudice against Tripp pants in general is an innocuous little dogma I've developed over years of running into assembly-line Hot Topic kids claiming to be anticonformists.


Yeah I have always find that irony quite funny myself. Just remind them that Hot Topic is owned by The Gap so they are just preps with with dark clothing. That will usually enrage them and provide even more entertainment. The goth kids on South Park come to mind: "conformist". \:D
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#50983 - 03/14/11 04:53 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Yeah I have always find that irony quite funny myself. Just remind them that Hot Topic is owned by The Gap so they are just preps with with dark clothing. That will usually enrage them and provide even more entertainment. The goth kids on South Park come to mind: "conformist". \:D


There are so many people that I will have to say that to, I can picture it already. Hot Topic ruined what goth culture was supposed to be. Joy Division, The Cure, Souixsie and the Banshees, were some of the real Goth songs, now replaced by this metalcore crap with some horrible clothes (Tripp Pants have nothing to do with real Goth fashion) to go along with it.

Back on topic, I do not openly state I am Satanic, because it would just create needless drama. I dress like a rivethead (a style to go along with my taste for dark-electro music), and that's pretty plain and boring, so people wouldn't accuse me of being Satanic from my dress style. I don't cover myself in baphomets or anything that would openly label myself as satanic either.

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#51002 - 03/15/11 04:08 AM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: RavenOfMorrigan]
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I met another Satanist tonight. We had a medical emergency in my dorm tonight. One of the Sheriff's Paramedic saw my tattoo and Baphomet tonight. After the Fire Department Ambulance had taken my resident to the ER, he inquired if I was a Satanist. I affirmed that I was, he smiled and pulled a Baphomet pendant out from under his uniform shirt and smiled. He was a really cool guy, he is from Capetown South Africa. He also used to be a medic in the military like I was...
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#51005 - 03/15/11 07:42 AM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: 666DemonDog]
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You forgotten to add Ghoetes Erben and Shadow Project to your list of real goth music.
But that is a problem all subcultures have to face. They are being comercialised to water down their exclusivity and with all those wannabees and posers they ultimately loose their group identity. How many Goths, Punks, Hippies, Bikers, Ravers or whatnot have quit the lifestyle because it became meaningless to be a member of that subculture? because there were twohundret posers for every genuine?
Its a design by comformist authorities to prevent group identity by turning lifestyles into fashion styles. Why? Because having a Culture Identity protects against lemming-identity. One is not alone, not a single isolated individual without lables who is easily controlled and one is not just a faceless member of the lemming mainstream which is easily manipulated. If one is in a uncorrupted, uncommercialised sub-culture, one is an Individual with an identity, a member of an exclusive group to identify with, within which one gains the security and confirmation of peers without giving up one's own iondependence.
There is a reason why individuality and rejection of lables are so highly rated by authorities and mass-media, its the same reason for why conformity is preached at every street corner...for the corrupt leeches in politics and commerce who seek to control and manipulate their 'subjects', to prevent people from having an opinion of thier own. In 10-20 years time, how many Satanists will just leave the comunity and start pretending to eb (or even actually be) mundaines, just to not be associated with the clones and posers that flooded the comunity, or because being in the comunity has lost all meaning and purpose?
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#51075 - 03/16/11 01:16 AM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: AdonKilravok]
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I see where you're coming from. From what I've observed, any sort of movement or "subculture" loses its vitality once it gains momentum as fashion for fashion's sake.

The same principle operates with societies and religions as well. Even Christianity was a hotbed of philosophical and spiritual innovation until it was institutionalized and made sterile by the Church of Rome, and it became just another bandwagon for converts to jump on to gain political brownie points, instead of personal conviction.

Ever since Satanism entered the sphere of publicity with LaVey's personal brand, numerous groups and movements have arisen attempting to "Reclaim the Sinister". The ToS, ONA, et al. did what they did because they felt something was lost in the manner that others presented the Left Hand Path. We are much in the same situation today. True seekers are not satisfied with the shallow horror fantasies concocted for the jaded public's amusement, nor can they stomach the juvenile "rebellious phase" diabolism that never sees manifestation beyond fashionable vanity and pop culture ephemera.

I am attracted to Satanism primarily because through all the rough dross, I catch glimpses of something sublime and beautiful that impacts me on a deep level. My personal starry-eyed perspective is probably more sappy and romanticized than most others here, but that's just the way I roll.
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#51080 - 03/16/11 02:28 AM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: The Zebu]
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Obviously for many years an all-too-common trope has been that Anton LaVey “codified” and defined modern Satanism, but for several years now I’ve wondered if that ultimately was such a good thing. Naturally, if it weren’t for his efforts I probably wouldn’t have been able to find The Satanic Bible nor The Satanic Rituals in a shopping mall bookstore in the mid 1980’s, but I’ve long-since come around to the opinion that if anything, LaVey’s work has enabled mainstream pop culture to pin down and define modern Satanism, and thereby co-opt and neuter it to a great extent. After all -- what’s more worrisome and intimidating to many people than the Unknown?

So, when popular culture and mass media were able to use LaVey and the Church of Satan as familiar figureheads for Satanism (I’m thinking specifically of the “Rolling Stone” magazine interview from the early 1990’s, among other examples), wasn’t Satanism reduced to an amusing and harmless oddity in the eyes of the popular culture at large, due in no small part to LaVey’s and the CoS’s shortcomings and failings?

Don’t get me wrong -- I certainly extend credit to Anton LaVey as one of the more interesting characters of the latter half of the 20th century, as well as an often entertaining author, and someone who created an aura and organization that survived his demise, but in my opinion the CoS has long since become little more than a quaint, conservative, cult of personality that when it’s recognized at all, tends to lessen contemporary Satanism more than anything else.

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#51103 - 03/16/11 01:01 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: dark_wind]
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Yes, I'm a Satanist in public, I'm so satanic you would s...t your pants if you knew me.

Satanism is a tool for daily life and I use it everyday and I have used it for many years. As a Satanist I represent Satan, I am Satan and I use my super powers to get the most out of life because this is the only chance I have to live in this fascinating world.

Christians say that one of the devil's best tricks is to make you think he doesn't exist and I think they are right, I never tell anyone that I am Satan, if they know, it could be a little harder to go playing around.



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#51128 - 03/16/11 10:29 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: Tesseract]
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LaVey once wrote something along the lines of "If I didn't do it, somebody else would have, and probably someone less qualified than me."

I am inclined to agree on this one. I can easily imagine a thousand other would-be Black Popes that would make the situation horrendously worse. Just be glad that like L. Ron Hubbard didn't try to don the red horns (although he had a close shave in his Thelema days).
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#51237 - 03/18/11 05:34 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: JohnTurk]
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How can you say you're a Satanist if you're scared or embaresed to admit it?!
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#51238 - 03/18/11 05:41 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: Anastasia]
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Because contrary to what a 16 year old has to lose, in some cases revealing to be a satanist isn't the most sensible decision.

It's not as if they're going to throw a party for coming out of the closet.

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#51241 - 03/18/11 05:49 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: Diavolo]
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Well, maybe I am young, underage or whatever.. But I really DO know what is it..
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#51242 - 03/18/11 05:51 PM Re: Are you a Satanist in public [Re: Anastasia]
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What do you know what it is? Satanism?

And in what way does that explain your idea that not revealing oneself in public is solely a matter of fear or shame?

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