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#1772 - 11/11/07 09:07 PM Cigars - they aren't just for blunts!
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I'll take the opportunity to jump in on this one. I love cigars. I probably smoke 3-4 a day. I prefer a maduro to a natural. At this moment I am smoking one of my go to cigars. An El Credito double corona in maduro. This is a secret many don't know. Most of the big name cigar manufacturers have a secondary brand. The cigar I am smoking is a second from La Gloria Cubana. Which is my favorite maker. These makers select cigars that don't quite make the quality check, but are still marketable, and sell them cheaper under a different brand. Hence, El Credito. It's still a La Gloria, but the cigar for whatever reasons, wasn't able to pass the test. So someone like me that smokes a zillion cigars saves a few $$ by buying the seconds. Most times you can't even tell why it couldn't pass the test. Maybe the wrapper wasn't uniform in color. Rolled a little tight or loose. The next time you decide to buy a cigar, inquire about seconds instead. Among my favorite brands are:
La Gloria Cubana(especially the reserves)
Avo
Romeo Y Julietta
Griffin
Camacho
Hoyo de Monterray
La Unica
Henry Clay

I also smoke pipes. I have about 12 pipes. Four meerschaums. One of which is so large I have to balance it on something to hold it up. You never want to touch a meerschaum with your hands as this puts body oil on the pipe and won't allow it to color properly. I have a small skull, a dragon, a turbin Arab guy head, and the mother of all pipes, a foot long Arab head. Some of the others include a limited edition St Patrick's day pipe with sterling silver accent, a couple of wood ones that color with each time you smoke them, and a hooka.
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#1776 - 11/11/07 09:16 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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I've never really taken to cigars - I tried a pack of Hamlet, they tasted like shit.

Maybe there's an acquired taste involved here?
Though for health reasons, I aim to abstain from tobacco ;\)

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#1794 - 11/12/07 09:43 AM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Meq]
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Every body and their brother seems to give me the Romeo Y Julieta Romeo No. 3. You know, the one in the little aluminum tube. Not a bad little Cuban but I do prefer a double corona with a more oily wrapper.

To date, the best Cuban I have had (and I am no expert) is the Cohiba. It may the only cigar that I could re-light without it tasting like an ashtray. I got one years ago from a guy in the Canadian Army. I have pretty much stayed with it.

For US legal cigars the Avo is pretty good.

As for a cigar drink, lately I have taken to Johnnie Walker Red Label. Nothing remarkable about Johnnie Walker (the worlds most common scotch) but it just seems a good match for cigars.
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#1822 - 11/12/07 09:55 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Fist]
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They're tough to find, but I enjoy Astral cigars. Fuente "Short Story" cigars are great when I don't have the time to enjoy a full cigar. I'm more of a pipe smoker and thoroughly enjoy the Virginia Blend made exclusively at one of Minneapolis' fine tobacconists. I find that Balvine 12-year scotch makes an excellent match for either.
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#1825 - 11/12/07 11:20 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Fist]
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I find a good sipping tequila pairs nicely with a cigar. Nothing like Jose Cuervo. More along the lines of a Herradura or Patron. If the bottle costs less than $50, it isn't a sipping tequila.

Fist, you should never let a cigar burn out. No matter how fine it is, it will eventually taste like ass if you keep relighting it. They are meant to be smoked from start to finish in one session. Should you need to let a cigar burn out, blow through it first. Get as much smoke out as you can. This will help preserve the flavor.

Note to first time pipe smokers. Do not go for the cherry blends. They have a strong tongue bite. I know a lot of first time pipe smokers that jump right in to the cherry blends. Then their mouths and tongues get burnt. Cherry burns hotter than other blends. This ruins the experience for the newbie, and they end up giving up too soon. I recommend going for a blend high in ebony. It burns cooler and will give a new person time to become used to a pipe smoke.
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#1829 - 11/13/07 01:19 AM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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I agree on the cherry issue. Actually, I find that most flavored pipe tobacco gets syrupy in the bottom of the bowl...that leads to some nasty draws. This is why I usually go for a mellow, natural blend of cavandish without any added flavors. I find that a half-bent pipe is the best for smoking as it's well balanced and even on the draw...I like Savenelli pipes from Italy.
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#1831 - 11/13/07 02:21 AM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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I know nothing of smoking cigars, except that my uncle is kind of a unique smoker. He does let them burn out and relights them constantly, because he has one cigar for every room or place that he'll be. At family gatherings, he'll have one on a table near the entrance, one on the mantle in the living room, one in the kitchen, one in the den by the couch and one by the bar, and at least two or three balanced precariously outside on fence posts near the outdoor activities. It's kind of fun to watch.
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#1907 - 11/14/07 07:25 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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Oh, I would never intentionally let a cigar burn out - but shit happens!
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#1935 - 11/15/07 08:10 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: undeadridinghood]
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Are we related? I will often do the same thing. If I light a cigar and I don't like it's draw, I will set it somewhere to come back to. Then I will light a new one. Repeat until I get the draw I like. If they are just plain unsmokable, I will toss it. My wife will yell at me because I have several cigars scattered around in various states of smoking. I am the king of balancing them as well. Any surface that isn't curved serves as a place to balance them.

Perhaps some night when I have had more than my share of adult beverages, I might don my smoking jacket, light up a cigar and/or pipe, and pose for a few pics. Maybe even kick up the swank meter a few and pose with my antique zebra striped bar, sipping a libatation from an antique serving set, and wearing my antique smoking jacket.
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#1940 - 11/15/07 10:50 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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Has anyone here ever tried the traditional hookah with the heavy tobacco? In Saudi Arabia they kept it lit with a small graphite briquette. Sometimes it is smoked with orange peels dipped in what I can only call a tobacco resin that looked like roofing tar.

I am not sure what the nicotine level is, but actually makes me sweat.
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#2001 - 11/18/07 08:34 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Fist]
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I have a hookah. Mine uses the same method for lighting. A small charcoal disk is lit and placed on top of the tobacco. I use flavored tobacco. It has the consistancy of moist chewing tobacco. Very wet and mashed together. Mine is filtered through water. Much like a bong. I have to say my experience with mine leaves me lacking. I get a very cool smoke with lots of flavor. But as far as smoke quantity, it is minimal. Compared to smoking a cigar, my hookah seems to spit out about as much smoke as one of those skinny ass Capri cigarettes. Which leaves me puffing and puffing for something of substance. I gave up on mine. Maybe it is the make of the pipe. Though I have tried others and also been left lacking. Perhaps it was just the tobacco. Maybe I should try to find this Saudi resin and see what I get from that.
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#2016 - 11/19/07 09:28 AM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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Exactly! I feel that I'm just struggling to get a decent amount of smoke to get into my lungs. I used to wonder how some people would take these long extended pulls and now we know why.

I'm no expert, but I think after trying a few Cubans and Dominicans that Dominicans are just as good as Cubans. Maybe people think Cubans are better because of the fact that they're illegal.
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#35496 - 02/11/10 10:31 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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The Hoyo de Monterrey Double Corona is a nice smoke.

But if given an option, the Vegas Robaina Unicos and Padron Perfecto Maduro are a couple of the very best. The 40th and 80th anniversary series are spectacular. Maduro or Natural.

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#35548 - 02/12/10 01:04 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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 Originally Posted By: MawhrinSkel


I know next to nothing about cigars, only that half-smoked ones that are re-lit indeed taste like recycled ass. Dry ones aren't nice either. Suggestions?


I keep the cellophane wrappers to store a partially smoked cigar, and tape the open end shut. It must be smoked in the next day or so.
NEVER inhale cigar smoke.
Try Romeo y Julieta. I have a box of them stored between cedar sheets. Smoky goodness!
NEVER spend less than $6 on a cigar. You do get what you pay for.

EDIT...Cigars taste better with a scotch in the other hand, and a blonde on your lap. ;\)
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#35549 - 02/12/10 01:15 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Zorg]
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I always wanted to ask Bill Clinton... Who smoked that cigar????

But I digress.

Since my sense of smell is shot, cigars don't really do anything for me. I USED to like the smell of a GOOD cigar, but so many people thought that they could buy quality for a quarter when they first got really trendy that being in a room of people puffing away was like being in the San Quentin gas chamber.
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#35555 - 02/12/10 02:45 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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 Originally Posted By: MawhrinSkel


Now, the only conundrum I face is how to make the missus actually *sit* on my lap while I indulge in her two least favourite things; cigars and Scotch.


Don't you know any other blondes?
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#35556 - 02/12/10 02:48 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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I get mine from jrcigars.com, but there are many other places. JR has five-packs, and lots of deals.

I'm only an amateur scotch-drinker, and I'm currently on an anti-single-malt kick, but here's what I like:

Romeo & Julieta, Reserva Real and Hedonism (a Compass Box Whiskey)
Montecristo and Peat Monster (another Compass Box Whiskey)
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#35558 - 02/12/10 02:52 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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I have to pretty much wash mny beard after a smoke. My wife has asthma. But she DOES love scotch! More importantly...she's a blonde.

She did buy me a box of my my favorite cigars. She encourages my vices...especially when SHE is involved.
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#35559 - 02/12/10 02:52 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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 Originally Posted By: MawhrinSkel

Now, the only conundrum I face is how to make the missus actually *sit* on my lap while I indulge in her two least favourite things; cigars and Scotch.


Try it naked. If that doesn't work, you're doomed \:\)

As for the celophane, you can always buy a humidor. They come in smaller sizes now. If you're only smoking a few a year, you could even use a 3-5 cigar travel humidor.
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#35561 - 02/12/10 03:02 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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I'm not a big cigar smoker but when I do smoke them I usually go with the Backwoods hand-rolled Wild Rum flavor. They aren't too expensive and they taste good. An ex-girlfriend bought me a $75 cigar once complete with a Zippo that had a gold dragon on it. The cigar came in a glass tube and after smoking it I couldn't see why it was so damned expensive. Maybe my taste isn't refined enough. The Zippo ended up getting stolen and sold for drugs; the person who stole it was administered a proper beat down but that is another story for another time.

I do have a funny cigar related story though that goes back to the summer of 03: Two friends and I decided that we wanted to drink and play cards. Being that we were only about 17 at the time we were willing to drink just about anything as long as it was alcohol. We ended up getting some dirt cheap rum, so cheap that it didn't even warrant the classification of "bottom shelf". In addition to that one of my friends also bought a cheap cigar from a gas station. It only cost him a dollar and was like 6 inches long and 3 inches around. Long story short, while taking shots and playing cards my friend was smoking his cigar like it was a cigarette. It must have taken him all of 15 minutes to suck that thing down. Unfortunately for him he spent the next four hours face down in the back yard puking. My other friend and I were quite amused by it, but I doubt he was.
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#35566 - 02/12/10 05:07 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Iím a philistine.

I despise cigars. Iím more of a hand rolled cigarette guy ( a throw back from my time a uni student perhaps).

They just take too long to smoke, smell like ass rape and taste like the aftermath of the aforementioned assault.

They do look very sinister when smoked in the right context, but, alas, not for me.
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#35571 - 02/12/10 07:17 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Zorg]
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 Quote:
NEVER inhale cigar smoke.


This is a bit of superstition, I can assure you.

Good Chianti and Port are fine alternatives to Scotch. Rum, Brandy or even a nice brew can work.

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#35580 - 02/12/10 09:44 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Simon Jester]
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 Originally Posted By: Simon Jester
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NEVER inhale cigar smoke.


This is a bit of superstition, I can assure you.

Good Chianti and Port are fine alternatives to Scotch. Rum, Brandy or even a nice brew can work.


What!? Something not Scotch? Blasphemy!
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#51899 - 03/29/11 01:39 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Jake999]
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I don't smoke, yet having lit the cigar with a match in my left hand, I inhaled a large drag and blew streams of smoke into the jar of paid for grave soil while speaking the words "Confusion. Sickness. Pain". I closed the jar upon the absolute last remains of smoke, then left the burning cigar and the smashed jar in front of that house.

A conclusion came to pass. Shame my sisters dog passed afterwards too, it seems there was more to pay.
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#55225 - 05/30/11 06:46 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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I don't often smoke cigars, though I have a tried a few, ranging from an expensive Cuban to a packet of Backwoods.

I am, however, a dedicated pipe smoker: I currently have about fourteen pipes in regular rotation. Most of these are fairly inexpensive, but I do have a couple of Brigham Lowlanders with silver bands, a Butz-Choquin calabash, and a Stanwell churchwarden--a long-stemmed pipe that a fantasy wizard might smoke.

As cliche as it sounds, it really does help me think. A pipe is basically a pacifier for an adult--or meditation, with the risk of cancer.

What fakepropht said about cherry tobacco was good advice, especially since novice pipe smokers tend to prefer flavoured and aromatic tobaccos. Also, watch out for anything by Mac Baren, which some pipe smokers have nicknamed Mac Blowtorch. MB's Mixture is popular and easy to find, but it burns hot as hell (and not in a good, Satanic way). I would personally advise new pipe smokers to try Captain Black, which smells nice and burns cool.

Personally, I think tobacco smoke should taste and smell like tobacco smoke--not cherry or vanilla. So I've come to prefer Virginia-Perique blends like Davidoff flake medallions, Ducados, Solani virginia flake, G L Pease Fillmore, and Former's straight grain flake. Straight burleys are nice too.
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#55425 - 06/02/11 10:59 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: Goliath]
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I just realized I made a small mistake here--I should have said 'Escudos,' not 'Ducados'. Ducados are a brand of Spanish cigarettes which I tried a few times, when I still smoked cigarettes. I've only started smoking Escudos recently--too recently to get its name straight, apparently.
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#55893 - 06/16/11 04:50 AM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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I don't smoke normally, but once in a month or 2 I tend to stick up a cigar. I've tried quite a few such as the Romeo y Guilleta, Habanos,..
The current ones I have in stock are from the Dominican Republic (Corona, handmade). Pretty good taste and have quite a good quality for what they have costed. (Package of 12 for 35 euros).
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#57842 - 07/30/11 07:50 PM Re: Cigars - they aren't just for blunts! [Re: fakepropht]
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I had similar issues with my Hookah (my preferred smoke).

The best way to get plenty of smoke from it is to make sure that your tin foil is stretched very tightly over you bowl, then add several smaller charcoal bricks instead of one large one. After about 15 minutes move them around and shake the ash into the tray.

Works every time for me.

I also enjoy Cigars though very rarely can I get my grubby little hands on anything good.

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