#18006 - 01/11/09 09:18 PM
Re: 2012
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Dan_Dread
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Once you start to take these sorts of things seriously you have lost hold on reality. How exactly do you think these ancient people managed to gain knowledge of the future, when we can not? It is obvious that our science and technology is superior.
Perhaps magic?
So to answer, what do I think about it? I don't.
I have far more important things to think about.
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#18022 - 01/12/09 04:10 AM
Re: 2012
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Fabiano
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I think the most interesting thing about it that on 12/21/2012 the sun will be in the exact center of the Milky Way galax. This is an event that, according to astronomers, occurs once every 45,000 years or so. The baffling thing about it is how the Mayan were able to pinpoint that exact date.
I probably missed something. Looking here I read
The Sun (and therefore the Earth and Solar System) may be found close to the inner rim of the Galaxy's Orion Arm, in the Local Fluff or the Gould Belt, at a hypothesized distance of 7.62±0.32 kpc (~25,000±1,000 ly) from the Galactic Center.[30][31][32][33]
I don't see how the Sun could be in the center of our galaxy one day when we know it's turning around its center...
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#18023 - 01/12/09 04:17 AM
Re: 2012
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Fabiano
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What surrounds 2012 as far as the Mayan Calendar is the astronomical alignment that only happens every like 40,000 years happening on winter solstice
Which alignment are you talking about exactly? What is aligned every 40,000 years? The sun with some other stars? The earth, the Sun and something else ?
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#18025 - 01/12/09 05:22 AM
Re: 2012
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Jake999
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As you stare into the sun on 12/21/12, just before you realize it was a dumb thing to do, as your retinas burn any you are rendered blind, you will be looking directly toward the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.
OF COURSE the whole of the galaxy has been waiting for this exact moment for this small, insignificant planet on a small subspur of the Orion Spur (which is why when you look up into the sky at night you'll probably see... wait for it... Orion) crosses the invisible equatorial line, when the sun is exactly dead center (give or take a million or twelve miles) in the crosshairs of the CENTER OF THE GALAXY!!
Of the billions and billions of stars in this galaxy, and the billions and billions of bodies orbiting these stars in this galaxy, sombody has painted a big target on the planet Earth. BASTARDS!! They could have gotten us last time we crossed... we were only 1 or 12 degrees out of plumb, but the universe is a big believer in symbology, so it's going to go after our Solstice. You asked for it!
Ok. Let's look at it logically. First, the Mayans decided that their calendars would "end" at the solstices. They also restarted at the solstices as well. They were perpetual and, think about it... they carved their calendar on a stone that weighs approximately 24 tons. You don't just grab another 24 ton stone and go to carving if you can avoid it. Second, if the Mayans were so great at prediction, why couldn't they predict when their civilization would implode?
"Chief Owumnatahu!!! The world is going to end in the year 2012!"
"My Shaman... is that important?"
"Well... we'll all be dead then and the Mayans will only be a memory."
"Fuck it. Let's go have a taco."
Every couple of years we have some doom and gloom prediction. Every couple of years we find gullible people falling into the trap of believing it because some prophet or some religious seer says it's going to happen. People sell their stuff and move to live underground with some new agey guru like Liz Claire Prophet who takes their money and laaaaaughs!
The world IS going to end. Someday. Just a fact. Not a damned thing you or I can do about it. Just a fact. Worrying about it is pretty much a waste of time. Just a fact.
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#18027 - 01/12/09 06:09 AM
Re: 2012
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Fabiano
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Thanks for the astronomical clarification Jack! 
Thanks also for the link to Failed prophecies.
It always make me smile to see Xian predicting the end of the world when knowing that Jesus himself said he did not know (but only the father knows).
How pretentious they're in believing they could know something their Messiah ignores
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#18036 - 01/12/09 11:06 AM
Re: 2012
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6Satan6Archist6
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Are you trying to say the Maya never existed? If there is no record, where did the Mayan calendar come from?
No, dumbass, I am not trying to say the Maya never existed. That would be an extremely retarded claim to make. I said the records don't exist because, as I said in my first reply to this thread, most were destroyed. Try reading the whole thing before you make assumptions.....dumbass.
Edited by 6Satan6Archist6 (01/12/09 11:10 AM)
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#18037 - 01/12/09 12:13 PM
Re: 2012
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Dimitri
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I think the most interesting thing about it that on 12/21/2012 the sun will be in the exact center of the Milky Way galax.
I find this part hard to believe...
Earth has always been a bit into the outer regions of the milky way. And also, there is one little fact which makes it impossible. If I'm not mistaking there is a black hole on that spot. Aren't you sure you meant that the earth is on an exact same position it was 40,000 years ago?
(And just noticed fabiano pointed that out already.)
Equation: Sunspot Count = Solar Flares = Magnetic Shift = Shifting Ocean/Jet Stream Currents = Extreme Weather
Heard that before.. In this modern age with far more advanced technology we can only predict solar flairs 10 minutes or less before they happen. Now I wonder how those ancient civilasations predicted this?
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