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#18216 - 01/15/09 12:15 AM Positive Satanism
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This post was made to raise the question of "How has Satanism helped you through a critical time in your life, whether it was making a bright time brighter or making a dark time easier to deal with." I have always been interested in hearing the positive views of like minded people. Especially in this day and age when the media/news has nothing good to say about anything but "doom and gloom" if you will. Lets try to be specific about actual events instead of broad allegations. Fire at will.
This post was inspired by Henrik and his forum topic of "Satanism and Recovery."

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#18218 - 01/15/09 12:45 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: GarrettProAudio]
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 Originally Posted By: GarrettProAudio
This post was made to raise the question of "How has Satanism helped you through a critical time in your life, whether it was making a bright time brighter or making a dark time easier to deal with.

How have I helped myself through a critical time in my life, this is what you are asking... Going on to further define this as whether a good time was made better or bad time easier to deal with... So now we can simplify this to say tell me about a time in your life........ Satanist... At least this is in 101, I guess...

Maybe you could start and try to lead by example...
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#18226 - 01/15/09 02:00 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: ta2zz]
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"It" hasn't helped me one bit. Can I get a refund or something?
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#18228 - 01/15/09 02:11 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: daevid777]
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Sorry, no refunds. This is clearly stated in the terms of use policy. You may exchange it for something of equal or lesser value though. Provided the packaging has not been damaged, you still have the reciept and it has been less than 30 days since the purchase.
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#18229 - 01/15/09 02:18 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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But what if was a gift?


A gift that cause headaches, social issues, and possible cash and job losses.

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#18232 - 01/15/09 02:37 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: Morgan]
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Can I "re-gift"? I'm sure someone wants this thing in my head...

Oh, how do I get it out? That could be a problem.
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#18234 - 01/15/09 02:44 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: daevid777]
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What if it has minor packaging damage?


Can pick up & removal be arranged?


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#18238 - 01/15/09 03:11 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: daevid777]
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 Originally Posted By: daevid777
"It" hasn't helped me one bit. Can I get a refund or something?


Its a fair question. Why such an unintelligent answer? Dont mean to be rude but did you happen to notice, that was my 5th post (hence: I am a 'newbie'). Its a simple question geared towards people who have had more experience with this 'religion' than myself. Everything has a learning curve, Satanism is no different. Even the people who claim to be "born satanists" would have never associated that term with themselves had they not Learned how to use computers/internet and read books to conduct research on Satanism. Newborns can't even spell Satanism. In short, my experience is still in the 'researching' phase so I was wondering what the experienced folks have for intelligent information to share.
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#18240 - 01/15/09 03:24 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: GarrettProAudio]
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Why such an unintelligent answer? Dont mean to be rude but did you happen to notice, that was my 5th post (hence: I am a 'newbie').

Being a newbie isn't very much of an excuse for providing crap...

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In short, my experience is still in the 'researching' phase so I was wondering what the experienced folks have for intelligent information to share.

Do your research and read the SB a few times more. Some like to stress out it is a solitary philosopy. Does that ring any bells?

Daevids answer is quite intelligent, take a step back andd judge objectively. If you don't know how to --> Mequa posted once a guide in the philosophy section on how you can "judge" in an objective way.
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#18241 - 01/15/09 04:32 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: GarrettProAudio]
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I appreciate where you are coming from with this, but Ta2zz is correct in saying that you should lay one of your own experiences on the table regarding how Satanism has helped You through a critical time in Your life- it might encourage someone here to reply to your post in the fashion that you originally intended.

Fire at will. ;\)
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#18246 - 01/15/09 07:16 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: GarrettProAudio]
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It is maybe a fair question but constructed in such a manner that well, you'll probably won't get a fair answer.

It's also pretty difficult to answer. It's not as if people in critical moments of their life quickly search for a relief-passage in some satanic self-help book. The very least Satanism should do at every critical moment of your life, is make you realize that no matter what happens, you can't put the blame on some invisible being or a subject like fate and due to that keep wallowing into your grief.
It isn't going to make you free from pain or misery but it should give you a clue that whatever happens, it is all about either someone being responsible, often you, or shit just happening.

And in reality it isn't Satanism making you realize it as much as you realizing it yourself. Satanism might just give you a gentle push into that direction.

D.

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#18251 - 01/15/09 10:31 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: Diavolo]
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Most religions provide that cozy 'help structure' you are talking about. Soft words. Happy promises. Talk of fairness and equality and judgment and just desserts 'in the end'. Maybe hard times are a test from above. Surely 'gods plan' or 'fate' or whatever fuzzy abstract magic that is believed in will make the outcome alright?

In fact, I would say it is this very emotional safety net that attracts many to religion to begin with. Where is a higher rate of converts than among 'recovering' alcoholics or drug addicts?

It is often said Satanism is not for everybody, and that is the truth. It is a rare person that not only does not NEED that emotional crutch, but spits on it. Satanism represents reality as it REALLY is, which is cold, brutal, and detached.

So to answer your question..no. Satanism is not a self help program or a tool to soften the blows life offers. It is a much more useful tool than that.
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#18331 - 01/16/09 10:57 PM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: Dan_Dread]
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While Satanism may not be the emotional crutch that most people are looking for in a religion, it doesn't mean that it hasn't helped somebody somewhere.
I personally have been helped by the Satanic philosophy, because it helped me realize that no matter what happens in life, be it good or ill-fated, if you want it to change you need to do something about it yourself.
You can't just sit around and wait for things to change, or "pray" for them to change, life is about action, and doing. If a person sits around all day on the couch, saying "man I really hope I'm rich someday ," or they pray to be rich it is never going to happen, but if they actually get off of thier ass and get a job, or if they have a job start saving some money than, maybe they will get rich someday. But until they actually take action then nothing will happen.
While you say Satanism isn't a self help program, Dan_Dread, I believe it is. It may not be the traditional self help program: "It's not your fault... It is genetics... It was your parents fault... It's a disease... etc, etc, etc." It can give a person a glib insight into there own problems and make them understand that no one is going to help them, but themselves.
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#18338 - 01/17/09 01:22 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: ShadowWalker]
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...no one is going to help them, but themselves


Yep.

This is particular to Satanism?
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#18341 - 01/17/09 01:35 AM Re: Positive Satanism [Re: spiderbreeder]
GarrettProAudio Offline
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 Originally Posted By: spiderbreeder
I appreciate where you are coming from with this, but Ta2zz is correct in saying that you should lay one of your own experiences on the table regarding how Satanism has helped You through a critical time in Your life- it might encourage someone here to reply to your post in the fashion that you originally intended.

Actually, now that a look back at how I asked the question I realize that I should have approached the process of asking it differently. It definitely was not intended to make Satanism sound like a "crutch to lean on" when 'life' happens (much like how people use Christianity as a 'crutch' of comfort), but I am very impressed with the recent posts answering the question. They seemed to grasp my concept well even though the question was faulty. Cheers to you all.
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