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#20864 - 02/20/09 11:57 AM The Church of Satan
IsacijH Offline
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I would like to hear everyone's opinion on the CoS. I myself thought about joining the church for quite some time, but the whole concept of a "Satanic Church" is a bit strange to me.

Firstly, Am I the only one who despise the entire idéa behind the hierarchy? I mean, The whole philosophy is based on the idea that you shouldn't have to take your cue from somebody else (He who saith "thou shalt" to me is my mortal foe), and even though they point out that the CoS is picky with their members, the church is STILL going to generate people who will only try to climb ranks and get acknowledgement from their "masters" whom they admire.

Secondly, I believe a satanist shouldn't have the need of belonging to a group to practice his beliefs. Gilmore can disagree all he likes, but to me, the concept of a "Satanic Church" is herd conformity in it's fullest; satanists only haning out with other satanists? What good is that to the individual satanist, honestly? (Except perhaps more exciting ritual-activities).

Now, you may all have your own opinion on this, but now i've stated mine.

Med Kamratliga Hälsningar,
Isac H.
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#20865 - 02/20/09 01:33 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: IsacijH]
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The CoS is not a glee club nor was it created as a place to "hang out" with other Satanists.
I think you have alot more research to do before asking questions like this.
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#20872 - 02/20/09 05:57 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: Master Magick]
IsacijH Offline
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I agree, It do not believe that was the intention. Be that as it may; I still believe that the concept behind a Satanic "Organization" goes against the entire idea of Satanism.

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#20873 - 02/20/09 06:21 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: IsacijH]
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Then don't join The Church of Satan. Simple problem, Simple solution.
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#20879 - 02/20/09 07:07 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: IsacijH]
Linaka113 Offline
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I think your confused. What we can't get together and do things as a whole to make us powerful!. All I have to say is do work son. You need to do more research and get educated more. If you feel strongly, then why are you in this forum or a Satanist for that matter. Umm its samiliar as to an organization. We come together as a whole here to express our views to have fun in one place. The 600 club is an organization for all Satanists from all over the world.


Historically, clubs occurred in all ancient states of which we have detailed knowledge. Once people started living together in larger groups, there was need for people with a common interest to be able to associate despite having no ties of kinship. Organizations of the sort have existed for many years, as evidenced by Ancient Greek clubs and associations in Ancient Rome.




Power in numbers
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#20885 - 02/20/09 08:27 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: Linaka113]
IsacijH Offline
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Perhaps.. I did not want to insult anyone. I do not agree with you saying im uneducated in the subject. I believe I know enough to state my opinion. And who knows? Instead of calling me uneducated, try to convince me. I will admit if i realize i was wrong. Thats the whole idea behind discussion, dont you agree? To reflect upon your own views and others to gain more knowledge and to grow intellectually.

If you try to reflect upon what i say, instead of just calling me uneducated i will reflect upon your opinion.

Yours,
Isacij H.
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#20886 - 02/20/09 08:36 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: IsacijH]
Dan_Dread Offline
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This site is not affiliated with the CoS, nor run or populated by CoS members.

Alternatively, this is also not some lame LaVey baiting club, nor a place to vent any angst you might have towards them(the CoS).

Nobody here is going to care to convince you one way or the other. Nobody here cares about you, or what you do.


If you are curious about the Church of Satan, go to their website and ask them.
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#20887 - 02/20/09 08:38 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: Dan_Dread]
IsacijH Offline
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Loc: Umeå, Sweden
Funny. I thought this was a place for discussion. Maybe I was wrong.
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#20888 - 02/20/09 08:47 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: IsacijH]
6Satan6Archist6 Offline
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You see, the things is this subject has already been touched upon, ad nauseum, since I have been here. I'm sure it was discussed before I joined and will probably be discussed on this site again.

I suggest using the provided search function on this website to make sure you are not starting a topic that has already been gone over and/or possibly locked. Also, don't be surprised if people tire over having the same useless debate over and over again.

As far as the original topic is concerned; I have already stated my opinion on this in another thread and do not feel the need to repeat myself.
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#20892 - 02/20/09 08:56 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
IsacijH Offline
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Loc: Umeå, Sweden
Point taken. I will keep that in mind.

I do not see it as useless though. I enjoy reading your reactions to this, even though it may feel like an old subject for most of you.

And those of you who arent tired of discussing this, Id be glad if somebody actually TRIED to take this seriously, I find that more productive.
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#20893 - 02/20/09 08:57 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: IsacijH]
Dan_Dread Offline
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 Originally Posted By: IsacijH
Funny. I thought this was a place for discussion. Maybe I was wrong.

What sort of discussion are you expecting? Your post was obvious baiting, and deals with your personal reasons for disliking the CoS. As this is not a site populated by CoS members, I can only assume you are hoping for a chorus of 'me toos' to share your sour grapes with you.

Bad form.


And as has been mentioned, this topic has been done to death. Learn to use the search feature.
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#20896 - 02/20/09 09:03 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: Dan_Dread]
IsacijH Offline
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Registered: 02/18/09
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Loc: Umeå, Sweden
Sigh.. So much time spent telling me such things; to someone you said you didnt care about?

I do not care what you believe, I just wanted to hear everyones opinion.

/Isacij H
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#20898 - 02/20/09 09:23 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: Dan_Dread]
Linaka113 Offline
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Registered: 10/28/08
Posts: 112
Loc: East Bay 510 CA
Have you ever went to this web site:


http://www.satanicchurch.com

This online club is connected to Karla LaVey. The 600 Club banner is on the first homepage, The First Satanic Church not Church of Satan. The Firtst Satanic Church is in San Francisco California founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey. The Chruch of Satan is based in New York.


Get your facts straight........... Please read the entire website before posting a topic before hand ok. If you want to share your views just do that simple thing. Oh yeah don't brew trouble either we chew on people here.

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#20900 - 02/20/09 09:27 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: Linaka113]
6Satan6Archist6 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Linaka113
The Firtst Satanic Church is in San Francisco California founded in 1966 by Anton Lavey. The Chruch of Satan is based in New York.


Actually it was CoS that was founded by Anton LaVey. It was originally based in San Francisco, but was moved to New York for reasons I won't even pretend to know.

FSC was founded by Karla. I believe it was because she disagreed with the way CoS was being run after her fathers passing, but I could be wrong.


 Originally Posted By: Linaka113
Get your facts straight...........


Take your own advice.
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#20901 - 02/20/09 09:27 PM Re: The Church of Satan [Re: Linaka113]
IsacijH Offline
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Loc: Umeå, Sweden
Ok ok, I get the point.
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