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#21048 - 02/23/09 11:09 AM Dimethyltryptamine
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A.K.A as DMT.

I'm becoming increasingly interested in this subject. It's one of the most powerful hallucinogenic drugs in the world, and exists in just about every living thing on the planet. The human brain actually produces it in the pineal gland and starts releasing it like crazy when your dying, which may be the cause of near death experiences.

Rick Strassman's done interesting research on the substance and found many surprising things amongst his subjects. People report seeing Aliens, Elves, Pixies, and tons of fantastic things under the influence of this drug.

Here's a very long but interesting interview I found of the good doctor speaking of his research.

http://realitysandwich.com/voyaging_dmt_space_with_dr_rick_strassman_md


Edited by Morbid Rex (02/23/09 11:10 AM)
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#21050 - 02/23/09 01:58 PM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Morbid Rex]
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This topic would probably fit better in the Counterculture section.

I will never forget my first experience with DMT - it came on strong and quick, kicked my ass for about 10 minutes (think Salvia, on LSD) and was gone just as quickly as it had came.

I only used it a few more times after that initial experiment. The 10 minutes I spent at the mercy of that wonderful wonderful substance; felt more like 10 hours.

An elusive and powerful substance, DMT commands respect from all those it comes in contact with. Given the chance, I might "get my feet wet" again, on the other hand I think I would rather wait to experiece it the au naturale way.
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#21051 - 02/23/09 02:12 PM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Morbid Rex]
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DMT is heavy stuff. Usually the realm of serious Psychonauts.

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People report seeing Aliens, Elves, Pixies, and tons of fantastic things under the influence of this drug.


Actually, they are 'Machine Elves' and they are real. It is just that your brain in it's normal state is unable to 'see' the world beyond our normal temporal three dimensional state.
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#21115 - 02/25/09 11:35 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Fist]
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Methamphetamine increases the natural pleasure drug dopamine into the brain as well, I can give you some stories of how enlightened it makes the human-animal from my experiences with those who used it that were in my life but are not anymore.
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#21133 - 02/25/09 09:00 PM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Cody]
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Does methamphetamine also make one feel a greater loving connection with one's dog?

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#21247 - 02/28/09 05:55 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Meq]
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So, where would one find DMT? What for does it come in and how is it ingested? Twisted old mind desires to know...


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#21250 - 02/28/09 07:51 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Grandpabeast]
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It's an illegal substance so you won't be able to roll up anywhere and buy it, at least not in America. You'll also be hard pressed to find a dealer of it, though a good place to start would be asking some Hippies.

You can actually obtain DMT yourself since it's produced naturally in plants and what not, but you'd go through quite the hassle I'd imagine.

There's this show on National Geographic channel where these two guys live amongst a South American Indian tribe. In order to prove themselves worthy to go with the rest of the tribe to their holy site they had to consume DMT and go on a vision quest. Hallucinogens are very prominent amongst tribal peoples, so if your ever in South America you know who to talk to.


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#21252 - 02/28/09 07:54 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
DMT is heavy stuff. Usually the realm of serious Psychonauts.

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People report seeing Aliens, Elves, Pixies, and tons of fantastic things under the influence of this drug.


Actually, they are 'Machine Elves' and they are real. It is just that your brain in it's normal state is unable to 'see' the world beyond our normal temporal three dimensional state.


I looked them up on wikipedia. Crazy stuff. When I was younger I was all into researching things like this, but I never heard of Machine Elves until now.
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#21256 - 02/28/09 09:05 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Grandpabeast]
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Like Rex mentioned, you will have to find some dirty hippies in your area, gain their trust, and start working their network. Not that easy.

Try to attend a Rainbow Gathering. These are attended by a lot of true 'heads' there who are still keepin' it real. Quite a few of them are completely unaware that the 60's are over. Introduce your self as a Psychonaut and you should have no trouble. Do a bit of research on the subject or you will come off like a narc.

Also check out Erowid:

http://www.erowid.org/splash.php

Any budding Psychonaut should do a fair bit of research before launching on this sort of journey. A mind is a terrible thing to waste...
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#21257 - 02/28/09 09:13 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Fist]
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Rex, I recently saw that episode you are talking about! When I was a teenager I had a three day trip that almost killed me on Jimson Weed seeds. Once I got past the trying to die part, it was the most intense hallucinogenic trip I have ever been on, even good shrooms or pure "Vitamin A" can't even come close...


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#21260 - 02/28/09 09:32 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Grandpabeast]
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Yeah, Jimsom weed is not the best route to take if you are looking for a trip. That stuff can and will kill you. Morning Glory seeds are generally safer, provided you get the kind that don't come pre-coated in pesticides. The effects are generally mild and will vary greatly depending on the amount you ingest.

One of the easiest way to obtain DMT alkaloids is from Canary Reed Grass, the process for this can be found online - although I would be wary of the source and one should do extensive research before trying any "basement chemistry". Lest you blow yourself up or create some sort of lethal substance, effectively turning you into a front page story and an argument in favor of the "war on drugs". Although I prefer Bill Hick's description of it as "a war on personal freedoms."

As has already been mentioned, erowid is an excellent resource for obtaining information on various mind altering substances. You won't find any "How to" manuals, but there is important information to be found there.

Rainbow gatherings. Well what can really be said about them? Lots of smelly hippies, drugs and undercover police. If you aren't bothered by the smell of patchoulli or the prospect of asking an U.C. for an illegal substance; then go for it. If memory serves they have a big gathering every year in Ocala, Florida.

Golden Gate Park in San Francisco is essentially a permanent rainbow gathering - although there are more crack heads and undercover police there than at your typical gathering.
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#21266 - 02/28/09 01:29 PM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Yeah, the jimson weed almost killed me and several friends. It's amazing we survived being stupid teenagers! Amazingly enough salvia is still legal here, but who knows for how long. Personally I think it is over rated...


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#21434 - 03/03/09 12:25 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Grandpabeast]
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Once again, as Head of the Homeland Herbal Quality Control Initiative (it changes from time to time)... let's not get all "how to" here.

I'd hate to see Reed Canary Grass under investigation - "I have an excellent idea! Let's change the subject!" - March Hare.
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#21452 - 03/03/09 11:19 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: daevid777]
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Jimson weed is a good drug/poison, I remember feeling claylike being driven forward in a one wheeled truck.
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#21656 - 03/06/09 07:49 PM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Cody]
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Drug usage can be an simple and as pleasurable as inhaling a house hold solvent product such as petrol, if you think that's particularly cerebral or spiritual that's really no different to supposing that there's one all conscious guardian of the earth and it's vast spectrum of life and probably just as valid so fry bleach with baking soda and cough medicen and buy a blunt rap.

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#21733 - 03/08/09 06:13 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: joseph oreilly]
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After contemplating your last post,I had an incredibly vivid mental picture of you taking a big hit of your bleach/baking soda/cough syrup concoction, staggering over to your computer, and logging in to the 600 Club...

Lay off all that shit Joseph- it's not good for your brain cells, and its fucking with your ability to post in a coherent and intelligent manner...

"Household Solvent Product Abuse"

That's just disgustingly tragic - shame on you.
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#21740 - 03/08/09 08:25 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: spiderbreeder]
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 Originally Posted By: spiderbreeder
Lay off all that shit Joseph- it's not good for your brain cells, and its fucking with your ability to post in a coherent and intelligent manner...

Don't worry spiderbreeder, a concoction like that can 1) only kill brain cells if the person trying it actually has brain cells in the first place, and 2) can only fuck with a person's ability to post in a coherent and intelligent manner if they already possess that ability (or the potential for it) to begin with.

Otherwise, let them chug that bleach away. Can do no harm. A brain has to exist before it can be damaged ;\)

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#21741 - 03/08/09 12:35 PM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Meq]
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I am going with Mequa on this one. If Joesph wants to play bathtub chemist, I say more power to him. Not like any of his actions could really have adverse consequences on any of us.

So huff all the gas you want, Joesph, just please make sure that you smoke while doing so.
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#21779 - 03/09/09 07:38 AM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: Meq]
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Your right Mequa.

After reading JO's bewildering contributions to the "political illusion" thread, I've come to the conclusion that he doesn't have a brain to damage either. \:D

So knock yourself out with it Joseph, Literally I hope.
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#31906 - 11/18/09 04:51 PM Re: Dimethyltryptamine [Re: joseph oreilly]
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Check iamshaman and bouncingbear. one of those websites should sell the plant matter that contains DMT. bb sells san pedro cactus, mmmmmmm, san pedro.....
One site sold a kit to make Ayahuasca, but i dont remember which it was. thats the Shaman's tea that has DMT plants in t.
Its not illegal to have the plant matter unless it can be proven you intend on consuming it.
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