#40128 - 07/11/10 08:00 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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BaronVonShankly
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No ones mentioned poor old Glen Benton and Deicide, although I don't know if mentally ill is a better discription of him than Satanist. Any one heard the mp3s that were floating around with him on the the Bob Larson Show in the 90's.They're very funny.I actually found them as I was typing this post so heres a link if any one fancies abit of a laugh.It actually reminds me of a conversation between Space Ghost and Zorack on Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Glenn Benton vs Bob Larson
I found the occasional ones where David Vincent called in were hillarious as well. Ive always found David more coherent and easier to understand than Glen even when he is trying to destroy someone.
Plus Morbid Angel are my favriote band ever.
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#41216 - 08/01/10 03:38 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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No, a thousand times no -- his previous band was a Christian xHCx outfit.
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#41217 - 08/01/10 03:41 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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I don't see them as anything "Satanic", dark.. perhaps but not Satanic due to their wide covering of topics.
Explore their early years -- up through "Lepaca Kliffoth" -- when they were a death metal band, and before the controversy over political alignment.
http://www.anus.com/metal/therion
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#41218 - 08/01/10 03:42 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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American bands of interest to Satanists:
* Black Funeral
* Infester
* Deicide
* Acheron
* Demoncy
* Incantation
* Averse Sefira
* Absu
* Imprecation
* Blaspherian
* Morbid Angel
* Angelcorpse
You can find a good introduction to them here:
http://www.anus.com/metal
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#41229 - 08/01/10 04:27 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Dan_Dread
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Just out of curiosity, as a Satanist, why 'should' any of these bands be of interest to me? Are you trying to draw some sort of correlation between black metal and Satanism?
Personally, that shit mostly gives me a headache these days.
I'd rather listen to some hank3, or maybe some blue oyster cult.
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#41234 - 08/01/10 07:23 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Just out of curiosity, as a Satanist, why 'should' any of these bands be of interest to me? Are you trying to draw some sort of correlation between black metal and Satanism?
Black metal espouses a philosophy similar to ONA-style Satanism.
Why listen? Because they're good -- otherwise I at least wouldn't recommend them.
"Here dude listen to this random crap I found that's really obscure you'll love it honest!" -- no, not for me.
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#41267 - 08/02/10 11:01 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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The Zebu
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Much Black Metal, or at least archetypal black metal like Mayhem, espouses a very unrefined, juvenile sort of Satanism preoccupied with shock imagery and reverse-Christianity.
Deicide, especially... Glenn Benton comes off as a total moron, although his trolling escapades with Bob Larson still give me a chuckle every now and then.
Whether newer, more coherently Satanic bands like King Diamond, Watain, and Deathspell Omega you consider to be "authentically satanic" could be a matter of debate, there is unquestionably a link between Satanism and Black Metal, albeit not a limiting one.
To regurgitate the overused maxim, black metal is not inherently Satanic, nor is Satanic music restricted to black metal. But the fact remains is that a portion of us DO like satanic black and death metal. So it wouldn't be a giant stretch of the imagination to speculate that MAYBE there might be some Satanists out there who would be interested in that sort of music.
I am a stereotype, I know.
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#41271 - 08/02/10 01:16 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Dan_Dread
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Black metal espouses a philosophy similar to ONA-style Satanism.
Oh, you mean the worship of dark acausal gods that look an awful lot like HP Lovecrafts fictional monsters? Burning down churches? etc? I guess if you are 16 and full of angst...
Me, I'm all grown up now, and have come to realize wearing a certain type of clothing or listening to a certain type of music does not make you anything. 'Black metal' is no more a part of Satanism than 'count chocula' is a part of vampirism.
To tell the truth,well hell..I like metal too. Of course the metal I like has a little more musical content than some listed, but tastes are irreverent. What is relevant is that Satanism isn't a fashion accessory.
So it wouldn't be a giant stretch of the imagination to speculate that MAYBE there might be some Satanists out there who would be interested in that sort of music.
True. There are also probably a lot of us here that like sandwiches. I guess since a lot of Satanists like sandwiches, sandwiches are also Satanic.
For years neophytes have been making efforts to graft certain musical tastes, or certain aesthetics, or certain styles of dress onto Satanism, in general, and in threads such as this one. It won't be the last time either, more newbies will come.
Yet, every now and then I like to sprinkle a little bit of reality onto the situation and point out that actual autotheists are perfectly capable of defining our own tastes, and define for ourselves, in this context, what qualifies as Satanic.
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#41280 - 08/02/10 03:19 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Deicide, especially... Glenn Benton comes off as a total moron, although his trolling escapades with Bob Larson still give me a chuckle every now and then.
Not to be pedantic, but Deicide isn't black metal. Death metal was more of a mix of stuff, like Morbid Angel where Lovecraft, Crowley, and New Age Satanism all get thrown in the mix.
If any non-Norwegian-speakers have the good fortune to come across a translated copy of Håvard Rem's "Innfødte Skrik" (roughly translated as "Native Screams") I recommend you pick it up for a pretty decent description of the Norwegian Black Metal scene from its birth until present date.
I will look for it. "Lords of Chaos" and "Until the Light Takes Us" seem like good resources as well.
I think the connection between black metal and most Satanists has little to do with the beliefs of the musicians.
I disagree. I think they may not recognize it as Satanism, but the transcendental idealist beliefs of bands like Mayhem, Gorgoroth, Burzum, Emperor, Immortal, et al are coherent with esoteric occultism like Advaita Vedanta or ONA-style Satanism. (They are incompatible with Church of Satan style materialism, that's for sure, or faux nihilism.)
Very many of the public statements of black metal musicians fit into the ONA-style Satanist archetype, although again they're going to upset the materialist/fatalist contingent.
I was always fond of Varg Vikernes' statements:
http://www.burzum.com/burzum/meaning/importance/
The same principles underscore Anton Long's writings or those of Crowley.
Oh, you mean the worship of dark acausal gods that look an awful lot like HP Lovecrafts fictional monsters? Burning down churches? etc? I guess if you are 16 and full of angst...
Me, I'm all grown up now, and have come to realize wearing a certain type of clothing or listening to a certain type of music does not make you anything. 'Black metal' is no more a part of Satanism than 'count chocula' is a part of vampirism.
There are many angry people on the internet who, because they are frustrated with their "real lives," are here to try to be big shots, and they usually do that by trying to put others down.
The text quoted from you above is entirely insinuated ad hominem ("you are immature, therefore your ideas are irrelevant" -- notice how you substituted this text for counterargument) and suggests that type of psychology. I hope not; I'd never wish that living hell on anyone.
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#41291 - 08/02/10 03:49 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Dan_Dread
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There are many angry people on the internet who, because they are frustrated with their "real lives," are here to try to be big shots, and they usually do that by trying to put others down.
The text quoted from you above is entirely insinuated ad hominem ("you are immature, therefore your ideas are irrelevant" -- notice how you substituted this text for counterargument) and suggests that type of psychology. I hope not; I'd never wish that living hell on anyone.
Nope, my life is absolutely fantastic, but thanks for caring. 
When it comes to psychoanalysis..well..I'd stick to your day job.
You are, however correct when you state there was an insinuation of ad hominem, as you put it. When it comes to ridiculous superstitious faith based cosmological bullshit of the sort mentioned, (dark gods/acausal/toothfairy) no respect will be afforded by me. Some things need to be mocked.
Is that problematic for you?
My point was that musical tastes are subjective.
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#41293 - 08/02/10 03:51 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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You are, however correct when you state there was an insinuation of ad hominem, as you put it.
Thank you for being honest about that.
I think ad hominem and categorical thinking distract from a good conversation, if you want all parties to participate. What do you think on that topic?
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#49131 - 02/19/11 12:06 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Hegesias
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Sewer Goddess, Ashdautas, Arizmenda, Volahn, Nyogthaeblisz, Black Witchery are a few because this board is fucking limited to US bands.
However, these are not scene bands nor pretentious 'arty' drivel, but genuine underground compositions. In who's oppinion? Mine, I also compose anti-art so take my word for it or don't and go listen to pretentious black metal.
Sinister/ violent sound recognition can quicken and influence one’s unconscious. Black Metal advocates evil. Black Metal is dark provocation, a wave of psychological violence across the landscape of civilisation. Anything less than this is alien to black metal and not black at all. Unless you are a subversive Satanist and like to 'cull' mundanes to pop music for the sheer morbid irony.
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