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#21450 - 03/03/09 08:25 AM US Satanist bands
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As an European, i don't know many of them, except Absu.

Who else ?

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#21453 - 03/03/09 11:28 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Macumba]
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Search deeper in your genre.. plenty of them...
Most black metal-bands are made out of "Satanists"..
Or are they doing it for their image?... Whatever..
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#21465 - 03/03/09 01:10 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Macumba]
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 Originally Posted By: Macumba
As an European, i don't know many of them, except Absu.


The metal scene here in the US isn't as good as it is overseas, but there are a couple Satanic black metal bands that come to mind: Grand Belial's Key, Leviathan, Kult ov Azazel, Goatwhore and Judas Iscariot. You already mentioned Absu, who--in my opinion--is the best US black metal band. Like Dimitri said, explore deeper in the genre--you'll find what you're looking for.

 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
Search deeper in your genre.. plenty of them...
Most black metal-bands are made out of "Satanists"..
Or are they doing it for their image?... Whatever..


Some are all about the image, others are serious. Slayer, for instance, is hypocritical--Tom Araya is a practicing Catholic, yet most of their music is anti-Christian. Good message, but coming from the wrong person. Then there are other bands such as Mercyful Fate, Bathory, and Rotting Christ, who are--or were--all serious about their music and the messages behind it.

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#21480 - 03/03/09 06:47 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Rig]
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I know Crebain and Horn of Dagoth. There is a bass guitarist (Ancalagon)that is in those two bands. I know him he is a loyal infernal of mine. Both of the bands are from the San Francisco Bay Area. There is Vietus Mortuus,Necrite,and Lighting Swords of Death all from California. Theres many more but it is you that need to go onto a journey to search.


Here is a link to a record label:
http://moribundcult.com/


There is also a webzine called The Satanic Inquisition. So far they only have a Myspace profile. There website link is goofy right now. Heres the link to Myspace.


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43389845


I hope this serves a purpose to your black metal american band adventure!.
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#21772 - 03/09/09 12:52 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Linaka113]
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The only bands I listen to with ties to Satanism are Electric Hellfire Club and Emperor, the latter of which you've probably heard of since they're not an American band.
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#21806 - 03/09/09 09:15 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Macumba]
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There is also Averse Sefira from Austin, Texas (great band); there is also Krieg (now defunct), Nachtmystium from Chicago, Woe from Philadelphia, Wolves in the Throne Room from Washington State, and another great San Fran band, if they haven't been mentioned aleady: Weakling (their only album, Dead As Dreams, is classic, and has recently been reissued). There is also Xasthur, although for me, it is not one of the best acts, with the exception of the "To Violate the Oblivious" album.

Wrest of Leviathan also has a project called Lurker of Chalice, originally released on Total Holocaust and issued in the States on the Southern Lord label. He was also involved, along with Malefic of Xasthur, Hildolf of Draugar, Azentrius of Nachtmystium, and Imperial of Krieg in a project called "Twilight". As you can see, there are quite a few great bands here; some can hold a candle to the European scene, while some leave much to be desired in that respect. A great place to search is myspace searching by country, as well as American labels such as Dark Horizon Records, the label of Lord Typhus, the founding member of Typhus, and, as has already been mentioned, Moribund records.
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#26556 - 07/01/09 10:58 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Draculesti]
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I live in Illinois and a local satanic band is Electric Hellfire Club, they been around for a while.
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#27435 - 07/23/09 03:23 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Satans Scrotum]
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No ones mentioned poor old Glen Benton and Deicide, although I don't know if mentally ill is a better discription of him than Satanist.
Any one heard the mp3s that were floating around with him on the the Bob Larson Show in the 90's.They're very funny.I actually found them as I was typing this post so heres a link if any one fancies abit of a laugh.It actually reminds me of a conversation between Space Ghost and Zorack on Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Glenn Benton vs Bob Larson
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#27440 - 07/23/09 04:12 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: jesusbeater]
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Haha, wow, I've never heard those before... Hilarious.

Thanks for the link.
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#27551 - 07/26/09 11:47 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: The Zebu]
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The Electric Hellfire Club has already been mentioned, so I'll throw out their parent band, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult. They're not as overtly-Satanic as EHC, but go and listen to Confession of a Knife and you'll see what I mean.
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#29021 - 08/29/09 03:49 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: synthysys]
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Alas we can not forget DANZIG. I have met him and he does seem to be the real deal in Satanism. His other band that he had after The Misfits and before the Danzig band , SAMHAIN, was leaning heavily toward the left hand path also.
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#29036 - 08/29/09 10:34 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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What would you say makes these artists/bands to be considered Satanist bands?
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#29037 - 08/29/09 11:05 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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Hmmmm... Let's see. Maybe because they all claim to follow Satanism? Glenn Benton admits to being a Satanist , as does Glenn Danzig among others.
There are bands that claim to be satanists that are for show only. Most of the bands around the world that use Satanism as a claim to fame are just mere "wanna be's" and not true followers. Some even admit to use this as a gimmick to get listeners and fans.

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#29038 - 08/29/09 11:14 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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I just thought there might have been musical reasons to it.
Like how the drummer from Perfect Circle, who is a Thelemite, uses sacred geometry and sigilism in some of his playing or how M. Ford has incorporated Qliphothic frequencies into some of his recordings.

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#29039 - 08/29/09 11:31 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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Most of the bands mentioned write about Satanism within their lyrics. Danzig does his more subliminally than directly mentioning Satan.
Like in the song UNSPEAKABLE he asks the listener questions to make them think for themselves instead of being a sheep lead to slaughter.
Here are excerpts from the mentioned song,

"Don't you ever call upon things you shouldn't play with
Don't you ever look upon things that might offend you

Say what they don't like"

and this,

"Don't you ever question God or question how to pray
Don't you ever question laws, question what they say

Say what they don't like
Say what they don't like

Don't you ever
No
Don't ever call the unspeakable"

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#29055 - 08/30/09 12:41 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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What makes a band a Satanist band? I'd say it MUST have these two things:

1. An open self-identification as "Satanist"

2. The use of Satanic themes/ideas/imagery in their music

Danzig and the EHC are perfect examples of Satanic bands. They are both made by actual Satanists and promote Satanic themes and ideas.

Bands like Dimmu Borgir, however, are not Satanic. While their lyrics and image are certainly Satanic, the band does not define themselves as being Satanists. Instead, Satanism is merely a "topic" they use to express their ideas.

Sometimes it can get a bit iffy though. For example, Leaether Strip and X-Fusion are two electro-industrial bands that use Satanic themes in their music (the former did some collaboration with the Electric Hellfire Club as well), but whether they are actually self-identifying Satanists would be the deciding factor if they can really be called "Satanist" bands.
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#29058 - 08/30/09 08:30 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: The Zebu]
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Danzig dismissed their characterization in his official response through his publicist: "We welcome their disdain". Danzig has repeatedly denied accusations of being a Satanist, saying that while he is spiritual, he rejects all religions, especially organized religion, but is fascinated by the nature of evil and merely finds Satan to be an interesting figure in Christian theology
I grew up about 4 towns away from Lodi where Glenn was born and recall his rise through the music ranks here, damn, I never knew he was a Satanist.

I am also a musician from his area and era. He seemed always into comic books, I know he is a published writer, but I have never read anything. He reminds me a lot of Rob Zombie in that respect. Is he another Satanist? (Zombie)

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#29077 - 08/31/09 07:32 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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Blech... I was thinking of King Diamond, sorry... All the Danzig-talk brainwashed my mind.

I doubt Rob Zombie is a Satanist, but he most certainly shares much of LaVey's aesthetic taste, given his penchant for retro and carnivalesque spooky-stuff.
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#29080 - 08/31/09 07:55 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: The Zebu]
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Ahh, King Diamond is another story, psycho looking dude for sure!
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#29153 - 09/02/09 12:41 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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YES THE KING,not actually a Satanic U.S. band, even though he lives in Dallas, Texas,he is a Denmark national. Having most of his band based there. Early leader of the Satanic Scandinavian black metal with Mercyful Fate.
Great guy TRUE SATANIST.

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#29179 - 09/02/09 07:05 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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Is anyone familiar with Thomas Karlsson's band Therion?
For those not familiar, Karlsson is head of the Dragon Rouge.

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#29184 - 09/02/09 08:14 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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At the risk of derailing this thread further than it already is, yes, I am familiar with Therion. The bandleader is Christopher Johnsson, but he is also involved with Dragon Rouge along with Thomas Karlsson. I'm not sure about the other band members.

So, did you have anything else to say about Therion, their music specifically, or are we just playing the "Throw Out Band Names" game?
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#30948 - 10/29/09 06:45 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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Another band that I have spoken with and became friends with at one time was ... ACHERON. Vincent Crowley is definately SATANIC as are most the people that have been in his band.
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#30953 - 10/29/09 08:51 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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Therion cover a wide range of subjects, for example their album "Secret of the Runes" focuses on the subject of Norse Mythology. Although their band name is Greek for beast, their reason for using the name is in tribute a band called Celtic Frost.

I don't see them as anything "Satanic", dark.. perhaps but not Satanic due to their wide covering of topics.
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#31003 - 10/30/09 09:23 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Damis]
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Just because a band doesn't scream "SATAN SATAN GURHBRAHUGHAH I SKULLFUCK CHRISTIANS" every song doesn't mean they're not Satanic.... I consider my own band Ferrum Dei to be Satanic, but I don't think I've ever even used the "S" word in any of my four thusly-released albums.

However, as far as Therion goes, I suspect not quite for a different reason. Therion's songwriter (as he is also the leader of the Dragon Rouge) is clearly an authentic practitioner of the LHP, but I doubt he would define himself as solely "Satanic", and whether or not the performing band shares his views is not known (at least to me).
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#31010 - 10/30/09 11:55 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: The Zebu]
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I would say that it would also depend on how people interpret the lyrical content of music as well. For example, Secret of the Runes by Therion, from what I gather from it, lyrically, isn't Satanic as such, however not all music made by "Satanists" would necessarily carry a Satanic message.

Yes I see what you mean however. My knowledge of Therion is limited to a few albums that appeal to me. However it now sounds like it would be interesting to look into it further :).
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#31130 - 11/02/09 07:05 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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Forgive the ignorance, but I always assumed that a band that mirrored its image on a religion was just compensating for a lack of talent. (Even if that religion/belief system were similar to my own).

That is to say if a band is genuinely “Satanic” why advertise themselves to be so? Is this not similar to the “Christian rock bands” method of revenue generation? The whole “music by attrition of a demographic” phenomenon in action.

Personally, I listen to the music, and then decide on the merits
of the music/message rather than the “hype” before I purchase an album. Surley a band should let the music speak for its self, rather than the self stialised Satnic “branding” that so many metal bands follow now a days to gain the currency of angry little teenagers?
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#31134 - 11/02/09 08:02 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Room 101]
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 Originally Posted By: Room 101

Personally, I listen to the music, and then decide on the merits
of the music/message rather than the “hype” before I purchase an album. Surley a band should let the music speak for its self, rather than the self stialised Satnic “branding” that so many metal bands follow now a days to gain the currency of angry little teenagers?


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#31135 - 11/02/09 08:05 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Jake999]
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Unsure of the sentiment attached to that comment Jake...but prey do feel free. The haggis is yours \:\)

I suppose it was about time for the obligatory “Jock” joke...yes, I’m from Scotland \:\)


Edited by Room 101 (11/02/09 08:12 PM)
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#31137 - 11/02/09 08:49 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Room 101]
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Lyrics aside for a moment, do any of you feel there is an actual 'satanic sound'? I hear minions who align this dropped C heavier than thou chug to the satanic current, and personally I don't get it. I get more of the vibe from Lustmord or the Doors even, actually there is a CD from M.Ford 'Rite of the Qliphoth' that interests me intensely, unfortunately Ford is unwilling to discuss the details of those compositions, which makes me feel they are not as deep as to how I am hearing them.

On a side note I hope you all enjoyed the little musical ditty I posted on the forum last week! I understand it came in useful this Halloween, \:\)

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#31138 - 11/02/09 08:55 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Room 101]
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No offense meant, Room. Was just so glad to see SOMEONE who realizes that music is music. It's not in and of itself SATANIC or CHRISTIAN. To assign it a box to reside in limits its power. A Christian could write a song with SATANIC CONTENT... a Satanist could write a hymn. The notes are tools, much as anything else in communications.

I point to one song that most probably wouldn't know... Stay Down Here Where You Belong... about Satan talking to his son and telling him to stay in Hell because:

"'Way up above they say that I'm a Devil and I'm bad
Kings up there are bigger devils than your dad
They're breaking the hearts of mothers
Making butchers out of brothers
You'll find more hell up there than there is down below"

The song was written by a Jewish guy named Irving Berlin. He also wrote one of the most cherished of all Christmas songs, White Christmas.

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#31141 - 11/02/09 09:10 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Jake999]
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None taken at all Jake.

Music like many of the communication medium are simply “tools”; as you so aptly put it. I couldnt agree more.


A subject should be judged by its contents rather than the context within which others contrive it to be viewed.

Content over hype.
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#31143 - 11/02/09 09:34 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Room 101]
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I apologize for this post being slightly off topic of the topic of satanist bands but the above post about the tools made me think of a particular song by a unique band called Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. I'm sure most Satanists can appreciate the feeling of this twisted hymn. Creepyness is a major factor in their sound.
The song is called Hymn to the Morning Star and the video itself is quite strange.

VIDEO

This band's theme is not usually this directly occult. They actually have a whole back-story dadaists (later found to be entirely made up) they claim to write their songs about.

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#31320 - 11/05/09 11:29 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Rig]
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 Originally Posted By: Rig
 Originally Posted By: Macumba
As an European, i don't know many of them, except Absu.


The metal scene here in the US isn't as good as it is overseas, but there are a couple Satanic black metal bands that come to mind: Grand Belial's Key, Leviathan, Kult ov Azazel, Goatwhore and Judas Iscariot. You already mentioned Absu, who--in my opinion--is the best US black metal band. Like Dimitri said, explore deeper in the genre--you'll find what you're looking for.

 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
Search deeper in your genre.. plenty of them...
Most black metal-bands are made out of "Satanists"..
Or are they doing it for their image?... Whatever..


Some are all about the image, others are serious. Slayer, for instance, is hypocritical--Tom Araya is a practicing Catholic, yet most of their music is anti-Christian. Good message, but coming from the wrong person. Then there are other bands such as Mercyful Fate, Bathory, and Rotting Christ, who are--or were--all serious about their music and the messages behind it.


ive exchanged various emails with wrest over the last few years. He is very much the Church of Satan's idea of a satanist. However there is a large degree of nihilism to his character as well.

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#31384 - 11/07/09 09:47 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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 Originally Posted By: Ankhhape
Lyrics aside for a moment, do any of you feel there is an actual 'satanic sound'?


I don't think there is a "satanic sound" at all. One band that isn't so satanic sounding but was at one point associated with the CoS (at least there was a link to the bands site on CoS)is Alkaline Trio. I wouldn't have guessed a semi pop punk to be satanic and I'm guessing most haven't either.

 Originally Posted By: The Zebu
What makes a band a Satanist band? I'd say it MUST have these two things:

1. An open self-identification as "Satanist"

2. The use of Satanic themes/ideas/imagery in their music


Why is it they have to be open? Is it not understood that if you feel that if it will hinder your social standing or professional growth that you don't need to be open about it? I have used satanic themes and ideas in my music but haven't openly said I was. However, if you know the Satanism ideas or "beliefs," then it is kind of obvious and even to the average person it is questionable.
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#31386 - 11/07/09 11:00 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: ME6]
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ME6:
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I don't think there is a "satanic sound" at all. One band that isn't so satanic sounding but . . .
First you are saying there is no satanic sound then you are saying this band doesn't sound satanic? Which is it?

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#31391 - 11/07/09 04:23 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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ME6:
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I don't think there is a "satanic sound" at all. One band that isn't so satanic sounding but . . .
First you are saying there is no satanic sound then you are saying this band doesn't sound satanic? Which is it?


I don't think there is one. But going off what others might think sounds "satanic," ie black metal, Danzig, and others brought up here.
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#31393 - 11/07/09 05:01 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: ME6]
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I see, excuse me.

I wonder what the 'satanic' sound was in 1967?
I guess eventually there would be Black Sabbath and Jimmy Page mentioning his Crowley purchases. Though neither of them, to me, speak in a satanic current. A couple of lyrics and some associations.

Today we have Danny Carey from Tool who I believe is a Thelemic (?) but in any case he uses ritual and sacred geometry when creating his drum patterns and such, I find that interesting and deeper in an occult current than someone playing a flat 5 or jotting down 'evil' lyrics (not that this is what all the bands mentioned were doing).

Again, I mention M. Ford and his CD 'Rite of the Qliphoth' this is interesting in the view that supposedly the extremely low ended chaotic sounds and tones being mixed within the music and actually being a part of the music, is representative of the Qliphothic forces, though Ford doesn't explain as to how he arrived at these associations.

It can be akin to how we know that the so called sacred solfeggio which is 528Hz, repairs damaged DNA. That being the case there should exist a frequency that destroys DNA?

As Hans Jenny showed us in his Cymatics that order and symmetry can be created out of physical chaos, there must also be sound that creates chaos from order.

I'll stop babbling now!

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#31395 - 11/07/09 10:09 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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"It can be akin to how we know that the so called sacred solfeggio which is 528Hz, repairs damaged DNA. That being the case there should exist a frequency that destroys DNA?"

Don't know about this healing of the Dna bit, have to look into it. Wasnt that part of the movie Dune? The weirding moduals, a sounds was force or death. Now the military and police are using sounds waves to disburst crowds so the noise makes them want to throw up. I am sure that in some government lab, that if a sound wave was developed to make people throw up, another sound wave was created to kill them.

"sound that creates chaos from order"
How about a word, Satan.
That one word will throw most well ordered places into chaos.

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#31425 - 11/08/09 06:43 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Morgan]
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Morgan: yes, perhaps the 'true' word Satan is the vibration that Sets us free?

I'm sure you're aware of the 'Primordial Vibration'?

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#31427 - 11/08/09 07:22 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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Thanks for bringing that page to our attention. I'm wondering how I can use said scale to help with my own well being. After all, the page that advertises these "Vibrational Healing Sessions" make it pretty vague to be honest.

I guess I'm gonna have to trawl through the vast internet to find out more, eh?
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#31431 - 11/08/09 08:19 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: DistroyA]
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I guess I'm gonna have to trawl through the vast internet to find out more, eh?
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#31972 - 11/19/09 05:07 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Ankhhape]
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There is alwasy Cradle of Filth, very little satanic mention within the lyrics(Mostly within the album Midian), but in theme, i think they hit the idea. Not really blackmetal, though sometimes they sound it.
i believe that they are from the UK, but they do have a strong following within the states. I didn't see the mentioned, so i thought i should vomit that up here
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#38014 - 04/22/10 04:38 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Sceevin]
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Cradle Of Filth were not mentioned due to the fact that they are a UK band. Good band ,but, UK none the less.
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#38015 - 04/22/10 04:57 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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Slightly off-topic, but the mention of Cradle of Filth reminded me of their "Jesus Is A Cunt" T-shirt.

Now I know most here aren't exactly keen on Christians and what they stand for - but to put things in some perspective, compare the following Christian's response on the Cradle of Filth forums to the recent death threats by Muslims over the portrayal of Muhammad in a fluffy bear suit:

 Originally Posted By: Paul, Cradle of Filth forums
as a christian i'm not fond of the Jesus is a cunt shirt, but i find it distressing that anyone could be fined for wearing one. What happened to freedom of speech? Sure, it's my God, and I don't like seeing others disrespect my faith, but who am i to tell someone else they have to shut-up? I thought we were all free to express ourselves - which takes tolerance. The fact that cops beat up some kid for his t-shirt says a lot about the world we live in. well, fuck the police...

Muslims as a whole could seriously take a leaf out of his book.
Paradoxically it might even earn them some of the respect they crave so much.

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#38033 - 04/23/10 09:42 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Meq]
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It's retarded, I know. Fundamentalist Muslims are like a bunch of whiny, spoiled children... with assault rifles and homemade explosive devices.

Anyways, CoF is a cool band (at least their older stuff before they sold their souls to Hot Topic), and they have a knack for trolling Christians, but I wouldn't call them actual Satanists, just iconoclastic and romantic goths.
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#40128 - 07/11/10 08:00 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: jesusbeater]
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 Originally Posted By: jesusbeater
No ones mentioned poor old Glen Benton and Deicide, although I don't know if mentally ill is a better discription of him than Satanist.
Any one heard the mp3s that were floating around with him on the the Bob Larson Show in the 90's.They're very funny.I actually found them as I was typing this post so heres a link if any one fancies abit of a laugh.It actually reminds me of a conversation between Space Ghost and Zorack on Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Glenn Benton vs Bob Larson

I found the occasional ones where David Vincent called in were hillarious as well. Ive always found David more coherent and easier to understand than Glen even when he is trying to destroy someone.
Plus Morbid Angel are my favriote band ever.

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#41216 - 08/01/10 03:38 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Linaka113]
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I know Crebain


No, a thousand times no -- his previous band was a Christian xHCx outfit.
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#41217 - 08/01/10 03:41 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Damis]
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I don't see them as anything "Satanic", dark.. perhaps but not Satanic due to their wide covering of topics.


Explore their early years -- up through "Lepaca Kliffoth" -- when they were a death metal band, and before the controversy over political alignment.

http://www.anus.com/metal/therion
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#41218 - 08/01/10 03:42 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: SODOMIZER]
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American bands of interest to Satanists:

* Black Funeral
* Infester
* Deicide
* Acheron
* Demoncy
* Incantation
* Averse Sefira
* Absu
* Imprecation
* Blaspherian
* Morbid Angel
* Angelcorpse

You can find a good introduction to them here:

http://www.anus.com/metal
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#41229 - 08/01/10 04:27 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: SODOMIZER]
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Just out of curiosity, as a Satanist, why 'should' any of these bands be of interest to me? Are you trying to draw some sort of correlation between black metal and Satanism?

Personally, that shit mostly gives me a headache these days.



I'd rather listen to some hank3, or maybe some blue oyster cult.
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#41234 - 08/01/10 07:23 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
Just out of curiosity, as a Satanist, why 'should' any of these bands be of interest to me? Are you trying to draw some sort of correlation between black metal and Satanism?


Black metal espouses a philosophy similar to ONA-style Satanism.

Why listen? Because they're good -- otherwise I at least wouldn't recommend them.

"Here dude listen to this random crap I found that's really obscure you'll love it honest!" -- no, not for me.
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#41267 - 08/02/10 11:01 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Much Black Metal, or at least archetypal black metal like Mayhem, espouses a very unrefined, juvenile sort of Satanism preoccupied with shock imagery and reverse-Christianity.

Deicide, especially... Glenn Benton comes off as a total moron, although his trolling escapades with Bob Larson still give me a chuckle every now and then.

Whether newer, more coherently Satanic bands like King Diamond, Watain, and Deathspell Omega you consider to be "authentically satanic" could be a matter of debate, there is unquestionably a link between Satanism and Black Metal, albeit not a limiting one.

To regurgitate the overused maxim, black metal is not inherently Satanic, nor is Satanic music restricted to black metal. But the fact remains is that a portion of us DO like satanic black and death metal. So it wouldn't be a giant stretch of the imagination to speculate that MAYBE there might be some Satanists out there who would be interested in that sort of music.

I am a stereotype, I know.
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#41269 - 08/02/10 11:38 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: The Zebu]
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I think the connection between black metal and most Satanists has little to do with the beliefs of the musicians. Before extreme metal music became another popular norm it was a way of going against the norm in popular music.

Black metal in most cases is based on a love for fast metal, dissonant tone, and shocking aesthetic. I think the blasphemous nature to black metal is more about shock tactics than having a message. The fact that black metal musicians tend to be "in character" when they speak about their music misleads people into thinking the music is a tool of message. If anything I think early black metal was more a rebellion against popular music and studio production than it was against christianity.

Personally I enjoy a lot of black metal because it's an interesting structure and tonality. The aesthetic can help give a song its mood too. In terms of aesthetic I go for Nattefrost, the solo project of the singer from Carpathian Forest which I don't really care for. It's a punk-black metal project that has a sense of humour about the satanic aesthetic. The lyrics are for nothing but shock value, singing mostly about worshipping goats, serving satan, raping and killing women and children, ect. One of the few black metal musicians that lets you know he's not taking his image too seriously.

It's true there are always those that base their musical tastes on "messages" of the artist. These are typically people who don't really "get" music but because society demands everyone think they do they look for music with a quality they can get. Messages are what draw these people in. This is why hippies flock to any pothead on an acoustic guitar and sings about saving the trees.

It's an error to think of music for any purpose but its own sake. If somebody sings something you agree with that's a nice icing on the cake but it's not a musical aspect. If a musician is inspired by beliefs you totally disagree with that doesn't make the music any less because of it. If someone's a theistic devil worshipper that sees their music as an outlet for those feelings then those strong feelings may make the music better. If I heard a christian rock band was fucking amazing I'd listen to it.

If you're looking for some deep satanic message in song lyrics you're looking in the wrong place. If the beliefs of musicians causes is significant in your choice of them then you need to realize you're not listening to the music itself.


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#41271 - 08/02/10 01:16 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: TV is God]
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 Originally Posted By: SODMOMIZER

Black metal espouses a philosophy similar to ONA-style Satanism.

Oh, you mean the worship of dark acausal gods that look an awful lot like HP Lovecrafts fictional monsters? Burning down churches? etc? I guess if you are 16 and full of angst...

Me, I'm all grown up now, and have come to realize wearing a certain type of clothing or listening to a certain type of music does not make you anything. 'Black metal' is no more a part of Satanism than 'count chocula' is a part of vampirism.


To tell the truth,well hell..I like metal too. Of course the metal I like has a little more musical content than some listed, but tastes are irreverent. What is relevant is that Satanism isn't a fashion accessory.

 Originally Posted By: TheZebu

So it wouldn't be a giant stretch of the imagination to speculate that MAYBE there might be some Satanists out there who would be interested in that sort of music.

True. There are also probably a lot of us here that like sandwiches. I guess since a lot of Satanists like sandwiches, sandwiches are also Satanic.


For years neophytes have been making efforts to graft certain musical tastes, or certain aesthetics, or certain styles of dress onto Satanism, in general, and in threads such as this one. It won't be the last time either, more newbies will come.

Yet, every now and then I like to sprinkle a little bit of reality onto the situation and point out that actual autotheists are perfectly capable of defining our own tastes, and define for ourselves, in this context, what qualifies as Satanic.
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#41280 - 08/02/10 03:19 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: TV is God]
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 Originally Posted By: The Zebu
Deicide, especially... Glenn Benton comes off as a total moron, although his trolling escapades with Bob Larson still give me a chuckle every now and then.


Not to be pedantic, but Deicide isn't black metal. Death metal was more of a mix of stuff, like Morbid Angel where Lovecraft, Crowley, and New Age Satanism all get thrown in the mix.

 Originally Posted By: MawhrinSkel
If any non-Norwegian-speakers have the good fortune to come across a translated copy of Håvard Rem's "Innfødte Skrik" (roughly translated as "Native Screams") I recommend you pick it up for a pretty decent description of the Norwegian Black Metal scene from its birth until present date.


I will look for it. "Lords of Chaos" and "Until the Light Takes Us" seem like good resources as well.

 Originally Posted By: TV is God
I think the connection between black metal and most Satanists has little to do with the beliefs of the musicians.


I disagree. I think they may not recognize it as Satanism, but the transcendental idealist beliefs of bands like Mayhem, Gorgoroth, Burzum, Emperor, Immortal, et al are coherent with esoteric occultism like Advaita Vedanta or ONA-style Satanism. (They are incompatible with Church of Satan style materialism, that's for sure, or faux nihilism.)

Very many of the public statements of black metal musicians fit into the ONA-style Satanist archetype, although again they're going to upset the materialist/fatalist contingent.

I was always fond of Varg Vikernes' statements:

http://www.burzum.com/burzum/meaning/importance/

The same principles underscore Anton Long's writings or those of Crowley.

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
Oh, you mean the worship of dark acausal gods that look an awful lot like HP Lovecrafts fictional monsters? Burning down churches? etc? I guess if you are 16 and full of angst...

Me, I'm all grown up now, and have come to realize wearing a certain type of clothing or listening to a certain type of music does not make you anything. 'Black metal' is no more a part of Satanism than 'count chocula' is a part of vampirism.


There are many angry people on the internet who, because they are frustrated with their "real lives," are here to try to be big shots, and they usually do that by trying to put others down.

The text quoted from you above is entirely insinuated ad hominem ("you are immature, therefore your ideas are irrelevant" -- notice how you substituted this text for counterargument) and suggests that type of psychology. I hope not; I'd never wish that living hell on anyone.
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#41291 - 08/02/10 03:49 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: SODOMIZER]
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 Quote:


There are many angry people on the internet who, because they are frustrated with their "real lives," are here to try to be big shots, and they usually do that by trying to put others down.

The text quoted from you above is entirely insinuated ad hominem ("you are immature, therefore your ideas are irrelevant" -- notice how you substituted this text for counterargument) and suggests that type of psychology. I hope not; I'd never wish that living hell on anyone.

Nope, my life is absolutely fantastic, but thanks for caring. \:\)

When it comes to psychoanalysis..well..I'd stick to your day job.

You are, however correct when you state there was an insinuation of ad hominem, as you put it. When it comes to ridiculous superstitious faith based cosmological bullshit of the sort mentioned, (dark gods/acausal/toothfairy) no respect will be afforded by me. Some things need to be mocked.

Is that problematic for you?


My point was that musical tastes are subjective.
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#41293 - 08/02/10 03:51 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
You are, however correct when you state there was an insinuation of ad hominem, as you put it.


Thank you for being honest about that.

I think ad hominem and categorical thinking distract from a good conversation, if you want all parties to participate. What do you think on that topic?
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#49131 - 02/19/11 12:06 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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Sewer Goddess, Ashdautas, Arizmenda, Volahn, Nyogthaeblisz, Black Witchery are a few because this board is fucking limited to US bands.

However, these are not scene bands nor pretentious 'arty' drivel, but genuine underground compositions. In who's oppinion? Mine, I also compose anti-art so take my word for it or don't and go listen to pretentious black metal.

Sinister/ violent sound recognition can quicken and influence one’s unconscious. Black Metal advocates evil. Black Metal is dark provocation, a wave of psychological violence across the landscape of civilisation. Anything less than this is alien to black metal and not black at all. Unless you are a subversive Satanist and like to 'cull' mundanes to pop music for the sheer morbid irony.

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#49134 - 02/19/11 02:57 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Macumba]
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Stepping away from the metal genres, there is (was? -- don’t know offhand if he’s recording new music under that banner) Allegory Chapel Ltd. A sort of post-industrial, experimental electronics outfit probably most active from the late 1980s thru mid 90s.

A brief biography:
http://thethingonthedoorstep.be/artists.php?id=25

A track from perhaps his best known release, “When Angels Fall”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPgBnW8czQM


While not necessarily Satanic itself, the American dark ambient project Bestia Centauri was commissioned in 2003 to record a new version of The Self Immolation Rite.
http://www.aferecords.com/artists/bestia_centauri.htm


In the early 2000s there was an American artist working as “Veinke”, producing Black ambient:
http://www.last.fm/music/Veinke

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#84850 - 02/06/14 12:45 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: horrorbiz70]
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I do love me some BLACK METAL especially the old school stuff such as gorgoroth and mayhem. I'm not completely sure but a band named white chapel has a lot of satanic messages gotta love those guys
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#84907 - 02/07/14 08:44 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Enochian Jablez]
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I'm big into "I Wrestled a bear once" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA__eBQAVVg )... implicitly satanic... same as GWAR... 'cept not as over-the top. As for explicitly satanic... psyclon nine is pretty decent... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed0H3BmRG6w (though sort fruity and emo in some ways)... someone on here got me into Idiot flesh and subsequently sleepy time gorilla museum... all good stuff.

Just depends what you're into. 'no accounting for taste, ya' know? Ya either see it or ya' don't. Search youtube, there's a shit-ton of decent artists who'll fill the need.


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#87516 - 05/14/14 02:57 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: antikarmatomic]
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There are literally hundreds of black/death metal bands in the US who sponsor a Satanic message in one way or another. Instead of providing you with a lengthy list of names, I'll just give you my favorites:

- Inquisition (The Kings of USBM, in my opinion)
- Black Witchery
- Acheron (headed by a former reverend of the CoS; many of their albums feature keyboards and spoken word by Peter Gilmore)
- Deicide (especially the old albums)
- Vital Remains (Ibid.)
- Ritual Combat
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#87620 - 05/15/14 08:19 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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Hmm, Acheron is actually not bad... it's got that whole old-school Morbid Angel vibe to it, sludgier riffs though - diggable.

Decide, always a classic, especially the old ones, but there's something to be said for once upon the cross - well produced.

I do dig Death Metal, but not as much as I used to, lately I'm more into "weird" shit. Something with a hook / gimmick - novelty! Stage presence also factors in a fuck ton. Take Deicide, for example, awesome albums, but seeing them live is sorta "meh"... maybe it was the venues but they really seemed as if they couldn't possibly give a fuck less to be there.

Music-wise, nowadays, the vocalist doesn't necessarily have to have the voice of a demon with a sinus problem, and man can't survive on blast beats alone ;\) Even so, it is pretty fun to listen to.

Thanks for the picks.


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#87625 - 05/16/14 03:32 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: antikarmatomic]
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You're welcome. I didn't mention Kult ov Azazel, but I think someone has done it before. Curiously enough, if we are to believe Metal Archives, some of their members belong to the CoS. I say curious because there is a wide prejudice against "LaVeyan" Satanism within the black metal milieu.
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#87626 - 05/16/14 04:23 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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Kult seems pretty sick - a few once-throughs reveal a certain "weirdness" I dig, and "groove" - that shit is so underrated. I dunno polish, but then again I had no idea what the shit most American death metal bands were saying until I read the lyrics, so I guess it's all just as well.

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I say curious because there is a wide prejudice against "LaVeyan" Satanism within the black metal milieu.


Well, not for nothing but the Tom Araya (vocalist for nothing less than Slayer) is actually Catholic... something to snack on and chew. True story.

Honestly, having played in a death metal / hardcore band 15 years ago (which predictably went literally nowhere aside from a few gigs in random dive bars) most of my peers (including myself) are actually kinda, well, *dorks* when not on stage.

'Big into DnD, Magic the gathering, Vampire the masquerade, the Cthulhu Mythos and shit like that. "LaVeyean" Satanism just makes too much goddamn sense - doesn't jibe well with the lyrical content and the overall "homage to the ancient ones" type motif.

Shit, most of us kinda picked up the Necronomicon and the Satanic Bible around the same time and being all darkly-wishful-thinkers were probably a bit let-down that we couldn't just, like, ya know, summon Yogsothoth.

So yeah, I can see why there's a certain disillusionment when it comes to LaVeyan Satanism in the black metal "milieu" (nice word btw - I was tempted to use "community")

Death metal/Black metal/Gloom/whateveryouwanttocallit leans toward the fantastical, and is admittedly the product of, well, like I said - dorks-at-heart who happen to shred quite adroitly.

No shame in my game - I'm pretty dorkish too... but some people just have no sense of humor. *shrugs* oh well.

on that note Here's some Goblin Cock


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#87643 - 05/16/14 12:06 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: antikarmatomic]
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I think the main issue here is that contemporary, legitimate Satanism is not "evil" enough for many people in the genre, insofar as it does not advocate widespread murder, rape and human sacrifice. Since this kind of devotion is not practicable in the real world (as you'd be in jail in no time), their brand of Satanism becomes an aesthetic fad; something akin to a horror movie. Using upside down crosses, pentagrams, fake (sometimes real) blood, corpse painting and all that para(in)fernalia.

Eventually, it becomes so much of a trend that no one takes you seriously. For me it was a bit like this for many years, and only quite recently I committed myself to Satanism in a earnest fashion. Hell, I played in a black metal some years ago and I was so fed up with all the poseur "weekend Satanists", that in our band, where I wrote most of the lyrics, I simply refused to write anything remotely dealing with Satanic themes.

Of course, there are serious people too, but not many. Even so, from the "serious" Satanists, not many claim to be contemporary "ego-theistic" Satanists, but rather indulge in other currents. Here in Scandinavia, the "anti-cosmic" brand is quite popular. In the States, you have the so-called Cathedral of the Black Goat, which also has links to the black metal scene and even organizes a yearly black metal fest.


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#87664 - 05/16/14 04:55 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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much agreed - often times I see these satanic themes / anti Christian lyrics as something of a creative crutch... you can only hear it repeated so often before it becomes "yeah, yeah I know 'fuck the sun, I hate it too; long live the fucking beast' 'go fuck your jesus' etc etc". As for "weekend satanists" well, I hear ya, but then again - consider "juggalos" (cringes)... its all fine and dandy to dress up and indulge in a show, but it gets weird when they wear their costumes / make up 24/7. This too applies to Goths, ravers, CoS-players, etc. I think it sorta loses meaning and value when a person's weekend persona becomes an everyday type a deal - that too makes it hard to.take a person very seriously. True, it smacks of inconsistency, but then again the most interesting people I've ever met are incredibly multi-facetted and just know when to shelve the Halloween costume.

While I am "satanic" that's just one facet. its not like I cook satanic Bacon for breakfast, or write satanic computer code, drive a satanic car, or take satanic shits (for lack of black toilet paper, I suppose)


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#87699 - 05/17/14 04:50 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: antikarmatomic]
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I was not implying that they should wear corpse painting and spikes at the office. It's just that Satanism is a fad for them, something to show their long-haired friends so that they are accepted within "the scene". They do not see it as a philosophy for everyday life.

Satanism is not a fucking Halloween costume, nor should it be. Neither should black metal, something that for me, reaches the status of a cult. They could wear a pink bunny costume and still be Satanic.
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#87700 - 05/17/14 04:59 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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Heh \:D
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They could wear a pink bunny costume and still be Satanic.
ya' know, ya might actually be on to something there... sounds weird enough for me ;\)
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#87701 - 05/17/14 08:30 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: antikarmatomic]
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It was already done by Atilla Csihar, from Mayhem ;\)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrfw22OCLB1qbgton.jpg
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#87876 - 05/23/14 02:08 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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Interesting curiosity: Vital Remains current vocalist Brian Werner is seemingly connected with The Satanic Temple. Or at least he's posing with Lucien Greave's in official propaganda material of the temple used in their Facebook profile.
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#87877 - 05/23/14 04:59 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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hmm, go figure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fypUYuYNC7Q

Without veering off into the content of this stammering interview (which is more suited for an existing thread), it would not surprise me at all to learn that this is a symbiotic relationship.

"Synergy" in marketing. Vital Remains fans are exposed to TST's ideology. TST supporters are exposed to Vital Remains.

Or perhaps Brian just really digs what TST is all about - no accounting for taste / all press is good press.


Edited by antikarmatomic (05/23/14 05:02 AM)
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#87878 - 05/23/14 08:01 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: antikarmatomic]
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Actually, I'm not sure for how long will Werner be in Vital Remains, since they have had tons of line-up changes throughout the years and the core of the band is exclusively Tony Lazaro.
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#88058 - 05/28/14 09:11 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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Tombs- out of new york city play a mix of noise/death metal/industrial and black metal. The singer is a satanist.

I am Heresy- Nathan gray's (of boysetsfire) other band. Nathan is a satanist and this project allows him to explore the concepts that he is unable to do in the guise of boysetsfire.

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#88269 - 05/31/14 05:29 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: BaronVonShankly]
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By the way, if you haven't noticed, Goatwhore pulled out a killer track from their upcoming album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQMyOFHhS2k&list=UUSldglor1t-5E-Gy2eBdMrA
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#88528 - 06/03/14 12:42 PM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Necrophilvs]
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Yet another good North-American black/death metal band that seems to have been omitted here is Demonic Christ. Metal Archives reports them to be Gnostic Satanists, but I'm not so sure about that, neither do I know what are the sources to base that assumption.
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#91160 - 07/24/14 02:03 AM Re: US Satanist bands [Re: Macumba]
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The harsh/dark electronic band Steel Hook Prosthesis; I have two of their releases, which are both quite good.

http://steelhookprostheses.bandcamp.com/

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