#21450 - 03/03/09 08:25 AM
US Satanist bands
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Macumba
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As an European, i don't know many of them, except Absu.
Who else ?
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#21465 - 03/03/09 01:10 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Rig
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As an European, i don't know many of them, except Absu.
The metal scene here in the US isn't as good as it is overseas, but there are a couple Satanic black metal bands that come to mind: Grand Belial's Key, Leviathan, Kult ov Azazel, Goatwhore and Judas Iscariot. You already mentioned Absu, who--in my opinion--is the best US black metal band. Like Dimitri said, explore deeper in the genre--you'll find what you're looking for.
Search deeper in your genre.. plenty of them... Most black metal-bands are made out of "Satanists".. Or are they doing it for their image?... Whatever..
Some are all about the image, others are serious. Slayer, for instance, is hypocritical--Tom Araya is a practicing Catholic, yet most of their music is anti-Christian. Good message, but coming from the wrong person. Then there are other bands such as Mercyful Fate, Bathory, and Rotting Christ, who are--or were--all serious about their music and the messages behind it.
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#21806 - 03/09/09 09:15 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Draculesti
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There is also Averse Sefira from Austin, Texas (great band); there is also Krieg (now defunct), Nachtmystium from Chicago, Woe from Philadelphia, Wolves in the Throne Room from Washington State, and another great San Fran band, if they haven't been mentioned aleady: Weakling (their only album, Dead As Dreams, is classic, and has recently been reissued). There is also Xasthur, although for me, it is not one of the best acts, with the exception of the "To Violate the Oblivious" album.
Wrest of Leviathan also has a project called Lurker of Chalice, originally released on Total Holocaust and issued in the States on the Southern Lord label. He was also involved, along with Malefic of Xasthur, Hildolf of Draugar, Azentrius of Nachtmystium, and Imperial of Krieg in a project called "Twilight". As you can see, there are quite a few great bands here; some can hold a candle to the European scene, while some leave much to be desired in that respect. A great place to search is myspace searching by country, as well as American labels such as Dark Horizon Records, the label of Lord Typhus, the founding member of Typhus, and, as has already been mentioned, Moribund records.
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#29021 - 08/29/09 03:49 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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horrorbiz70
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Alas we can not forget DANZIG. I have met him and he does seem to be the real deal in Satanism. His other band that he had after The Misfits and before the Danzig band , SAMHAIN, was leaning heavily toward the left hand path also.
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#29037 - 08/29/09 11:05 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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horrorbiz70
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Hmmmm... Let's see. Maybe because they all claim to follow Satanism? Glenn Benton admits to being a Satanist , as does Glenn Danzig among others. There are bands that claim to be satanists that are for show only. Most of the bands around the world that use Satanism as a claim to fame are just mere "wanna be's" and not true followers. Some even admit to use this as a gimmick to get listeners and fans.
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#29039 - 08/29/09 11:31 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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horrorbiz70
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Most of the bands mentioned write about Satanism within their lyrics. Danzig does his more subliminally than directly mentioning Satan. Like in the song UNSPEAKABLE he asks the listener questions to make them think for themselves instead of being a sheep lead to slaughter. Here are excerpts from the mentioned song,
"Don't you ever call upon things you shouldn't play with Don't you ever look upon things that might offend you
Say what they don't like"
and this,
"Don't you ever question God or question how to pray Don't you ever question laws, question what they say
Say what they don't like Say what they don't like
Don't you ever No Don't ever call the unspeakable"
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#29055 - 08/30/09 12:41 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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The Zebu
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What makes a band a Satanist band? I'd say it MUST have these two things:
1. An open self-identification as "Satanist"
2. The use of Satanic themes/ideas/imagery in their music
Danzig and the EHC are perfect examples of Satanic bands. They are both made by actual Satanists and promote Satanic themes and ideas.
Bands like Dimmu Borgir, however, are not Satanic. While their lyrics and image are certainly Satanic, the band does not define themselves as being Satanists. Instead, Satanism is merely a "topic" they use to express their ideas.
Sometimes it can get a bit iffy though. For example, Leaether Strip and X-Fusion are two electro-industrial bands that use Satanic themes in their music (the former did some collaboration with the Electric Hellfire Club as well), but whether they are actually self-identifying Satanists would be the deciding factor if they can really be called "Satanist" bands.
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#31134 - 11/02/09 08:02 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Jake999
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Personally, I listen to the music, and then decide on the merits of the music/message rather than the “hype” before I purchase an album. Surley a band should let the music speak for its self, rather than the self stialised Satnic “branding” that so many metal bands follow now a days to gain the currency of angry little teenagers?
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#31137 - 11/02/09 08:49 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Ankhhape
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Lyrics aside for a moment, do any of you feel there is an actual 'satanic sound'? I hear minions who align this dropped C heavier than thou chug to the satanic current, and personally I don't get it. I get more of the vibe from Lustmord or the Doors even, actually there is a CD from M.Ford 'Rite of the Qliphoth' that interests me intensely, unfortunately Ford is unwilling to discuss the details of those compositions, which makes me feel they are not as deep as to how I am hearing them.
On a side note I hope you all enjoyed the little musical ditty I posted on the forum last week! I understand it came in useful this Halloween,
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#31320 - 11/05/09 11:29 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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lewisb
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As an European, i don't know many of them, except Absu. The metal scene here in the US isn't as good as it is overseas, but there are a couple Satanic black metal bands that come to mind: Grand Belial's Key, Leviathan, Kult ov Azazel, Goatwhore and Judas Iscariot. You already mentioned Absu, who--in my opinion--is the best US black metal band. Like Dimitri said, explore deeper in the genre--you'll find what you're looking for. Search deeper in your genre.. plenty of them... Most black metal-bands are made out of "Satanists".. Or are they doing it for their image?... Whatever.. Some are all about the image, others are serious. Slayer, for instance, is hypocritical--Tom Araya is a practicing Catholic, yet most of their music is anti-Christian. Good message, but coming from the wrong person. Then there are other bands such as Mercyful Fate, Bathory, and Rotting Christ, who are--or were--all serious about their music and the messages behind it.
ive exchanged various emails with wrest over the last few years. He is very much the Church of Satan's idea of a satanist. However there is a large degree of nihilism to his character as well.
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#31384 - 11/07/09 09:47 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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ME6
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Lyrics aside for a moment, do any of you feel there is an actual 'satanic sound'?
I don't think there is a "satanic sound" at all. One band that isn't so satanic sounding but was at one point associated with the CoS (at least there was a link to the bands site on CoS)is Alkaline Trio. I wouldn't have guessed a semi pop punk to be satanic and I'm guessing most haven't either.
What makes a band a Satanist band? I'd say it MUST have these two things:
1. An open self-identification as "Satanist"
2. The use of Satanic themes/ideas/imagery in their music
Why is it they have to be open? Is it not understood that if you feel that if it will hinder your social standing or professional growth that you don't need to be open about it? I have used satanic themes and ideas in my music but haven't openly said I was. However, if you know the Satanism ideas or "beliefs," then it is kind of obvious and even to the average person it is questionable.
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#31391 - 11/07/09 04:23 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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ME6
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ME6: I don't think there is a "satanic sound" at all. One band that isn't so satanic sounding but . . . First you are saying there is no satanic sound then you are saying this band doesn't sound satanic? Which is it?
I don't think there is one. But going off what others might think sounds "satanic," ie black metal, Danzig, and others brought up here.
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#40128 - 07/11/10 08:00 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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BaronVonShankly
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No ones mentioned poor old Glen Benton and Deicide, although I don't know if mentally ill is a better discription of him than Satanist. Any one heard the mp3s that were floating around with him on the the Bob Larson Show in the 90's.They're very funny.I actually found them as I was typing this post so heres a link if any one fancies abit of a laugh.It actually reminds me of a conversation between Space Ghost and Zorack on Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Glenn Benton vs Bob Larson I found the occasional ones where David Vincent called in were hillarious as well. Ive always found David more coherent and easier to understand than Glen even when he is trying to destroy someone. Plus Morbid Angel are my favriote band ever.
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#41216 - 08/01/10 03:38 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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SODOMIZER
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No, a thousand times no -- his previous band was a Christian xHCx outfit.
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#41217 - 08/01/10 03:41 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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I don't see them as anything "Satanic", dark.. perhaps but not Satanic due to their wide covering of topics.
Explore their early years -- up through "Lepaca Kliffoth" -- when they were a death metal band, and before the controversy over political alignment.
http://www.anus.com/metal/therion
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#41218 - 08/01/10 03:42 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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SODOMIZER
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American bands of interest to Satanists:
* Black Funeral * Infester * Deicide * Acheron * Demoncy * Incantation * Averse Sefira * Absu * Imprecation * Blaspherian * Morbid Angel * Angelcorpse
You can find a good introduction to them here:
http://www.anus.com/metal
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#41234 - 08/01/10 07:23 PM
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Just out of curiosity, as a Satanist, why 'should' any of these bands be of interest to me? Are you trying to draw some sort of correlation between black metal and Satanism?
Black metal espouses a philosophy similar to ONA-style Satanism.
Why listen? Because they're good -- otherwise I at least wouldn't recommend them.
"Here dude listen to this random crap I found that's really obscure you'll love it honest!" -- no, not for me.
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#41267 - 08/02/10 11:01 AM
Re: US Satanist bands
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The Zebu
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Much Black Metal, or at least archetypal black metal like Mayhem, espouses a very unrefined, juvenile sort of Satanism preoccupied with shock imagery and reverse-Christianity.
Deicide, especially... Glenn Benton comes off as a total moron, although his trolling escapades with Bob Larson still give me a chuckle every now and then.
Whether newer, more coherently Satanic bands like King Diamond, Watain, and Deathspell Omega you consider to be "authentically satanic" could be a matter of debate, there is unquestionably a link between Satanism and Black Metal, albeit not a limiting one.
To regurgitate the overused maxim, black metal is not inherently Satanic, nor is Satanic music restricted to black metal. But the fact remains is that a portion of us DO like satanic black and death metal. So it wouldn't be a giant stretch of the imagination to speculate that MAYBE there might be some Satanists out there who would be interested in that sort of music.
I am a stereotype, I know.
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#41271 - 08/02/10 01:16 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Dan_Dread
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Black metal espouses a philosophy similar to ONA-style Satanism. Oh, you mean the worship of dark acausal gods that look an awful lot like HP Lovecrafts fictional monsters? Burning down churches? etc? I guess if you are 16 and full of angst...
Me, I'm all grown up now, and have come to realize wearing a certain type of clothing or listening to a certain type of music does not make you anything. 'Black metal' is no more a part of Satanism than 'count chocula' is a part of vampirism.
To tell the truth,well hell..I like metal too. Of course the metal I like has a little more musical content than some listed, but tastes are irreverent. What is relevant is that Satanism isn't a fashion accessory.
So it wouldn't be a giant stretch of the imagination to speculate that MAYBE there might be some Satanists out there who would be interested in that sort of music.
True. There are also probably a lot of us here that like sandwiches. I guess since a lot of Satanists like sandwiches, sandwiches are also Satanic.
For years neophytes have been making efforts to graft certain musical tastes, or certain aesthetics, or certain styles of dress onto Satanism, in general, and in threads such as this one. It won't be the last time either, more newbies will come.
Yet, every now and then I like to sprinkle a little bit of reality onto the situation and point out that actual autotheists are perfectly capable of defining our own tastes, and define for ourselves, in this context, what qualifies as Satanic.
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#41280 - 08/02/10 03:19 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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SODOMIZER
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Deicide, especially... Glenn Benton comes off as a total moron, although his trolling escapades with Bob Larson still give me a chuckle every now and then.
Not to be pedantic, but Deicide isn't black metal. Death metal was more of a mix of stuff, like Morbid Angel where Lovecraft, Crowley, and New Age Satanism all get thrown in the mix.
If any non-Norwegian-speakers have the good fortune to come across a translated copy of Håvard Rem's "Innfødte Skrik" (roughly translated as "Native Screams") I recommend you pick it up for a pretty decent description of the Norwegian Black Metal scene from its birth until present date.
I will look for it. "Lords of Chaos" and "Until the Light Takes Us" seem like good resources as well.
I think the connection between black metal and most Satanists has little to do with the beliefs of the musicians.
I disagree. I think they may not recognize it as Satanism, but the transcendental idealist beliefs of bands like Mayhem, Gorgoroth, Burzum, Emperor, Immortal, et al are coherent with esoteric occultism like Advaita Vedanta or ONA-style Satanism. (They are incompatible with Church of Satan style materialism, that's for sure, or faux nihilism.)
Very many of the public statements of black metal musicians fit into the ONA-style Satanist archetype, although again they're going to upset the materialist/fatalist contingent.
I was always fond of Varg Vikernes' statements:
http://www.burzum.com/burzum/meaning/importance/
The same principles underscore Anton Long's writings or those of Crowley.
Oh, you mean the worship of dark acausal gods that look an awful lot like HP Lovecrafts fictional monsters? Burning down churches? etc? I guess if you are 16 and full of angst...
Me, I'm all grown up now, and have come to realize wearing a certain type of clothing or listening to a certain type of music does not make you anything. 'Black metal' is no more a part of Satanism than 'count chocula' is a part of vampirism.
There are many angry people on the internet who, because they are frustrated with their "real lives," are here to try to be big shots, and they usually do that by trying to put others down.
The text quoted from you above is entirely insinuated ad hominem ("you are immature, therefore your ideas are irrelevant" -- notice how you substituted this text for counterargument) and suggests that type of psychology. I hope not; I'd never wish that living hell on anyone.
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#41291 - 08/02/10 03:49 PM
Re: US Satanist bands
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Dan_Dread
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There are many angry people on the internet who, because they are frustrated with their "real lives," are here to try to be big shots, and they usually do that by trying to put others down.
The text quoted from you above is entirely insinuated ad hominem ("you are immature, therefore your ideas are irrelevant" -- notice how you substituted this text for counterargument) and suggests that type of psychology. I hope not; I'd never wish that living hell on anyone.
Nope, my life is absolutely fantastic, but thanks for caring. 
When it comes to psychoanalysis..well..I'd stick to your day job.
You are, however correct when you state there was an insinuation of ad hominem, as you put it. When it comes to ridiculous superstitious faith based cosmological bullshit of the sort mentioned, (dark gods/acausal/toothfairy) no respect will be afforded by me. Some things need to be mocked.
Is that problematic for you?
My point was that musical tastes are subjective.
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#41293 - 08/02/10 03:51 PM
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SODOMIZER
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You are, however correct when you state there was an insinuation of ad hominem, as you put it.
Thank you for being honest about that.
I think ad hominem and categorical thinking distract from a good conversation, if you want all parties to participate. What do you think on that topic?
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