#22979 - 04/05/09 08:48 PM
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DREX
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Registered: 03/23/09
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So We have a Muslem running our country while we are fighting muslems... and he is a socialist. and i believe he is going to destroy our country and cause massive economical colapse all over the world.
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#22985 - 04/05/09 09:26 PM
Re: Obama
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Nemesis
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Registered: 09/01/07
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Wow, you basically just posted the anti-Obama Republican slogan verbatim. Don't forget, he pals around with terrorists!
Where exactly did you see this country headed if McCain/Palin won the big ticket? Hmm?
This country and the countries that are dependent upon its economy in some fashion were already headed for a fall before Obama got into office. Greed and complacency over the last 10 years is what did it, not the man who just got into the WH 4 months ago.
Whether the man is a Muslim or not is irrelevant...Repubs made a big stink over Kennedy being a Catholic when he ran, and he didn't allow the Pope to dictate US policy now did he? Granted, he didn't get a chance to see his term through, what with getting assassinated and all, but I doubt he'd have let it happen anyway.
He has socialist leanings, which don't necessarily translate into America turning into Cuba or Venezuela. Many Dems are huge critics of Obama's policy platform, just as the Republicans and Libertarians are, and as long as everyone in Congress gets their panties in a wad over the most insignificant law Obama tries to pass, anything he DOES get passed is going to be so watered-down as to render it meaningless.
Just look at the stimulus bill...Congress edited and fussed with it so much that it took quite a bit of wind out of Obama's sails.
Look beyond the fear-mongering and stop watching The O'Reilly Factor and Glenn Beck. Find ways upon which to capitalize on opportunities that come your way and adapt. Bitching about it isn't going to make a fuck's worth of difference.
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#22988 - 04/05/09 09:37 PM
Re: Obama
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DREX
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Registered: 03/23/09
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true however he is muslem and refuses to admit it and his "former" preacher HATES america... he could save this county but i seriously doubt he will and if McCain had won it would be going in a totaly different direction. obama was the wrong choice for the election and we all know it(Americans that is).
But you cannot say that he isnt further desimating America with this stimulis package. hell half the money he is giving away isnt even stablizing the economy it, if anything, is making it worse
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#22992 - 04/05/09 10:33 PM
Re: Obama
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DREX
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Registered: 03/23/09
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well i appreciate you at least being nice about pointing out the flaws in my arguements.
and thanks for that spelling of Machiavelli i couldnt remember to save my life
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#22993 - 04/05/09 11:29 PM
Re: Obama
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Lucius600
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Registered: 03/29/09
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Obama,like him or not, is no muslim.I cannot believe people still fall for that republican crap.I am no fan of either political party-how could I be,but it was the republicans who got us into this mess.As a matter of fact,It's always the republicans,as everytime they get in power they destroy our economy and endanger us geopolitically with their nonsense 'miltary actions' and wars.Would people prefer Mccain/Palin? Mccain is old,stupid,cancer ridden and perhaps going senile,while Palin is...well Sarah Palin.I am not without critcisms of Obama,but he at least he doesn't appear to be a complete moron the way George W.Bush was and is.If Obama fails as President,it won't just be the end of his political career,but the end of this country.I don't think people want to face the fact of exactly what position W. and his company of motherfuckers have put us in.
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#22997 - 04/05/09 11:57 PM
Re: Obama
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Draculesti
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Registered: 09/18/07
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true however he is muslem and refuses to admit it and his "former" preacher HATES america...
Even McCain refuted that old lady's claim that Obama is a Muslim; just because his middle name happens to be "Hussein," it does not make him a Muslim. Granted if you are a -berg, -stein/stien, -feld, etc. you are most likely Jewish, though not all Jew names will be thus; if you are a Finnegan, O'Malley, Griffin, O'Reilly, O'Brien, etc. chances are you are most likely Irish Catholic. However, this may not always be the case. Furthermore, if it walks like a duck but roars like a lion, is what you have a duck?
Still further, vitriolic though his diatribe was, it is plain to see that the Reverend does not, in fact, hate America. He was railing against the very complacency which Nemesis mentioned in her post. America thought it was untouchable, and then found the opposite to be true. The Muslims hate the American government (as well as the people) because of the US govt's unyielding support of Israel (for one thing). Is it any wonder, then?
he could save this county but i seriously doubt he will and if McCain had won it would be going in a totaly different direction.
He could save it; who knows? As Nemesis said, the man has only been in office for 4 months. It is unrealistic to expect such drastic change in such a short span of time.
Of course the country would be going in a completely different direction had he won; John McCain does not = Barack Obama. They are two completely different people with two completely different campaign platforms, not to mention of different partisanship which, regardless of all the talk about the need for unity rather than bipartisanship, it seems as though they will never be able to reach an accord.
obama was the wrong choice for the election and we all know it(Americans that is).
"WE" do not "know" anything; "YOU" "think" he was the wrong choice. The American people "knew" Bush was the wrong choice after the first four years yet, here we are eight years later.
Edited by Draculesti (04/06/09 12:18 AM)
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#23238 - 04/12/09 01:52 PM
Re: Obama
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delusion
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Registered: 08/30/07
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Loc: hawaii
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I think the entire post was pointless and misleading. Talk about an old discussion! I'm not particularly impressed with Obama either, in fact I believe he is just another shill who offers no real solution to the current downslide of America. Instead he is another friendly face put there to talk and talk and talk while the money criminals are dragging us down into absolute shit.
I don't think there has been a real leader at the helm for many many years. This is a conclusion you don't have to be political scholar to put together. Yahoo news headline yesterday was that Obama is asking for another several billion dollars for our "final" effort which will allow the people of this war torn area to "take responsibility for their own country". This is a massive load of shit but since we've all acquired the taste for it in this country no one has mentioned his complete turn away from his previous stance. Should we be surprised? I mean he put the same guy in position to consult on war issues that Bush had. The rest of his team is a bunch of Wall Street criminals but let’s not forget that we’re the ones who got behind him. Jesus... oops... I mean Obama is bringing change that you can count on to the table, right?!
With regard to those who feel that he has only been in office for a short time and he deserves some "warm up time" I would say get off your ass and look at what he has signed up till this point. Appologists using ignorance to sheild themselves from guilt. Look it up, Obama has done lots already much of it in the interests of Wall Street, not a whole lot of good done for the average citizen though.
It is what lies between the lines that really counts here.
No one talked about the other parties. In fact some people went out of their way to destroy the public's opinion of these candidates showing us that we are so thrilled to be led. Red or blue, red or blue, donkey or elephant?!?!? So right from the start the powers that be must have been laughing their asses off because we all clamored to back the darker colored, change flavored Kool-aid so fast no one had the volume it would take to say..."wait, lets look deeper at all of this!" and not a soul could be heard through all of that hoopla who knew that the ingredients were exactly the same. High Fructose Mind Rape.
You want to exorcize some satanic practice. Stop pointing fingers, stop looking for a scapegoat because it’s right in the mirror.
Every day in a thousand little ways we are the ones driving the nails into our own coffins. Every dollar you spend without for thought, every county counsel meeting you don’t attend, Every time something happens that deserves a call to your congressional representative but fucking television wins the battle for your attention we sink this ship a little deeper. Then like good little Christians we point our fingers else where.
Good little Christians.
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#24065 - 05/03/09 11:55 AM
Re: Obama
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Kenny Lane
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Registered: 02/13/09
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Obama is just part of a long line of puppets on a string. They dangled a black puppet in everyone's face to create the illusion that we actually have a choice for the better, and people bought the big lie once again. Kennedy tried to actually bring the country back to it's constitutional roots and was killed for it. There were other REAL African Americans running for president this last election including congress woman Cynthia McKinney with the Green Party, but you never once heard anything about her on any main stream media outlet.
Check out the new movie by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception" on http://www.infowars.com, and see who really controlls things.
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#24365 - 05/10/09 02:41 AM
Re: Obama
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GarrettProAudio
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Registered: 11/06/08
Posts: 16
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Obama is just another puppet of the Illuminati...just like any other government puppet. It doesn't matter if he was Democratic, Republican, White, Black, Brown or Florescent Orange. The fact of the matter is that he is a politician and history has proven over and over again that they are all crooked. They are only out to better themselves, especailly when it comes to Money and Power. Do you really think that any government entity, sect, branch or leadership dictator really cares about the "well-being" of all of us!? Absolutely NOT! The only "real" motive behind all government workings is the Almighty Dollar. If they really cared about us then why do they put chemicals in our food to keep America fat and unhealthy?...So they can sell us pills to keep us in a doped stupor and sell exercise programs on late night TV infomercials (when the pills are just starting to kick in)...That's just one example of many. So, does it really matter who wins in the end? They all promise "The World" to get elected and rarely deliver (if ever) and dumb-ass America falls for the bullshit and false promises every time. Obama won for two reasons. 1: He manifested his sales pitch in the colleges and universities across America because he (and his advertising team) knew how easy it was to convince a bunch of weak minded, easily impressionable college kids that his way was 'right', and got them to vote. (Also, most teachers and professors are Democratic- I work at a school and see this first hand on a daily basis) So, the kids are automatically Democratically influenced all through there years at school making them the perfect candidates to vote Democratic when they are old enough. Its simple economics. Create a problem, create a fix, sell the fix for prophet ( or in this case "votes")
2: He got most of the so called 'minorities' in America to come out to vote for the first time ever. Most of these people would have never voted, out of shear laziness. But, they made the effort since one of 'there own kind' was running...and those "minorities" now outnumber us (non-minorities aka white people). We are the minority now. The election just backed up the facts.
As a closing note I just want to say that I AM NOT a racist...
I hate everyone equally... and I have a colored TV. 
-Cheers-
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#24378 - 05/10/09 04:08 AM
Re: Obama
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Dimitri
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Registered: 07/13/08
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Obama is just another puppet of the Illuminati...just like any other government puppet.
There we go again... illuminati conspiracies..
Look, how about getting a life and stop thinking there is Illuminati everywhere because you see it in Fedex symbols and other marketing symbols.
Honestly... why give a fuck about it? As long as you are fine it's all right, right?
Being with Obama or against him doesn't change the situation. He is president now, just hope he'll keep his promises. That's it. Why so many people voted for him, or why and how he became so loved amongst people is a matter of psychology and happened in the "past". Don't give a shit about it, it happened...
Standards really are getting low here...
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