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#23062 - 04/07/09 05:05 PM Barack Obama Satanist!
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#23066 - 04/07/09 05:58 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: Morbid Rex]
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I saw this today,too!LOL! If only! Can you imagine what a satanist could do if they somehow passed public scrutiny and were elected president?! I love Rachel Maddow, btw!

Edited by Lucius600 (04/07/09 05:59 PM)
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#23067 - 04/07/09 06:00 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: Morbid Rex]
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#23068 - 04/07/09 06:08 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: Lucius600]
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 Originally Posted By: Lucius600
If only! Can you imagine what a satanist could do if they somehow passed public scrutiny and were elected president?!

What do you think this would do? How do you think this would effect the general population? Do you somehow think this would benefit you?

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#23081 - 04/08/09 12:43 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: ta2zz]
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I believe very strong that a Satanist could do alot for this country. Yes, if the person got past the public scrutiny, the Christian countrovoersies(sorry it had to be said because I'm sure we're all aware how big of an uproar there would be), and everything else, I strongly think they could do so much good! One not held down the by the Church or mythical laws! One here on Earth! Such a dream. Yet, who knows. Maybe one day we'll have a Satanist as a President.
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#23096 - 04/08/09 05:59 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: 6Saint6John6]
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I asked Lucius600 “What do you think this would do” meaning having a Satanist for president…

 Originally Posted By: 6Saint6John6
I believe very strong that a Satanist could do alot for this country.

Very simply what? What do you believe a Satanist in the president position would do for this country? By simplifying your answer to a lot you actually say nothing…

I then go on to ask “How do you think this would effect the general population?”

 Originally Posted By: 6Saint6John6
Yes, if the person got past the public scrutiny, the Christian countrovoersies(sorry it had to be said because I'm sure we're all aware how big of an uproar there would be), and everything else, I strongly think they could do so much good!

There would be no uproar, no one would know… You seem to believe they could do so much, does this blind faith stem from your belief of what a Satanist is, or your projection of what "you" think you would do if put in that situation?

 Originally Posted By: 6Saint6John6
Yet, who knows. Maybe one day we'll have a Satanist as a President.

“Do you somehow think this would benefit you?” If so then why?

Have a nice day

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#23102 - 04/08/09 10:57 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: ta2zz]
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I'm so sorry to not have responded sooner,but I've been busy.Listen,I don't know what a 'true satanist' would do if elected president.There could be a serious reinterpretation of our laws though.You could argue the point that there already has been 'satanic' presidents based on what some of them have done.The Chances of there being an openly satanic candidate in this country however are slim to none.I don't think a satanic presidency would look that different on paper,as the running of america's government-any government doesn't have anything to do with a belief system.Then again, I'm one of those people who wants a complete separation of church and state,and we are more likely to have a satanist as president than we'll ever have a church/state schism in this so-called 'christian nation'.

Edited by Lucius600 (04/08/09 11:28 PM)
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#23107 - 04/09/09 01:06 AM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: Lucius600]
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Be careful what you wish for....

I have a feeling most wouldn't like a Satanist as a President. We can't even agree on a silly Youtube video. What makes you think we could agree on any policies that are passed?

Then there is that little issue of "what makes a true Satanist"? What if a member of Jos, Tos, ONA, or some other "branch" made it in? How giddy would we all be? Yeah quality government would ensue. We would be too busy arguing stupid issues and ignoring real issues. A "real" Satanic elected president would do far more harm for us than good.

What about culling? Do you cut the mustard? In the truest meaning of the word of culling, far too many "Satanists" would find themselves on the outside looking in, or worse.

I won't be voting for one in my lifetime. Not because I don't think that one could ever garner a nomination, but only because it would be a huge mistake. We can't even agree on who is a real satanist.
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#23111 - 04/09/09 08:47 AM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: fakepropht]
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The one thing that I think we can all agree on, because you do make a huge vaild point, is that it would be nice to have a President that isnt scared of the Church or offending people. I think that is something we can agree on. But still as to what a true Satanist is, the same can be said of , what is a true Christian. Theres no real definition. Just the opionion and views of each Satanist, as to what we can define ourselves as.
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#23114 - 04/09/09 12:01 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: fakepropht]
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You're right Fake. If I'd be selected president, within a week or three the majority of what's under the satanic label now would be on their knees praying the Christian fundies came back. And mind you, I'm considered a pretty reasonable guy, or so I like to think. Just don't give me the power to put into practice what I really prefer.

And I expect the same behavior of any satanist out there that -we're talking about lala-land scenarios I know- has the potential, will and opportunity to rise to such a governing position.
I would vote for such a "King" for sure but only because the hyper-reality of what I think I am resembles the reality of what I truly am close enough to give me, not only a shot at survival, but also at improvement there. And I'd sure would have a ball.

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#23115 - 04/09/09 12:13 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: Diavolo]
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I don't see a Satanist as president doing anything different than any other president. All politicians ultimately serve themselves first and a satanic politician would only do the same thing, probably better.

As with any politician, whether they be Satanist, Christian, Muslim; the only way I, or anyone could benefit from them being president is if we wanted the same things.

For all we know there have been politicians who were Satanists and there might be again. The thing is we wouldn't know because they aren't going to be open about it. Aside from the fact we live in a predominately Christian society, Satanist have a reputation for being selfish, callous and egocentric - not exactly the typer of person your average joe would vote for.

Ultimately, though, government is government and control is control no matter who takes the reins.


Edited by 6Satan6Archist6 (04/09/09 12:19 PM)
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#23118 - 04/09/09 12:25 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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But you assume here that all will play by the rules as is played by now. To go further on our dream-scenarios. In my case, if I'd be the president, I'd make sure I'd stay the president. Yes I might have needed you the first time to have me elected but I sure as hell would find a manner to make the next voting unnecessary, for the good of the people of course. Look at Chavez and how smoothly he got things his way.

These scenarios all depend on what we depict a satanist to be capable of and what type of person we assume he is. But if he's truly the "might is right" Overman type, don't expect him to do things identical to how it always is done. And if he truly is that type, how could he not want the same things we want?

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#23120 - 04/09/09 12:42 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: Diavolo]
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Voting, in a sense, is already unnecessary and is nothing more than cosmetics to dupe people into thinking they are actually doing something. Look at Bush and how smoothly he got things his way.

 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
And if he truly is that type, how could he not want the same things we want?


Now you are the one making assumptions. Just because two people adhere to the same philosophy doesn't really mean that they are going to want all of the same things.
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#23123 - 04/09/09 12:50 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Like I said in my previous reply, it all depends upon on what we depict as the satanist in this argument. And yes, what I depict is of course in line with what I think. Surely I ain't going to imagine the 16 year old goth-sloth to run for president.

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#23124 - 04/09/09 12:57 PM Re: Barack Obama Satanist! [Re: Diavolo]
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Fair enough. And for the record I don't imagine "the 16 year old goth-sloth" as running for president either.
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