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#23573 - 04/20/09 02:35 PM Dude, Where's My Pot?
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Thought this story would be appropriate considering it is 420 and all:

"Since when do the cops give anybody pot? Since a judge orders them to, that's when.

A Tulare County man who was recently acquitted of marijuana charges will get all his pot back from authorities"

Full story:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Dude-Wheres-My-Pot.html

I don't know why anyone would need 12 pounds for "medical related issues" - it would take me a year to smoke all that, and by that time most of it would probably be stale. Yuck.
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#23578 - 04/20/09 06:04 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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That's what a freezer is for. Provided you don't mind smoking stuff which resembles soggy lettuce, and use it immediately after taking it out (the ice crystals break apart the trichromes, making it age faster at room temp).

The whole 420 thing is meaningless in the UK, it's a meaningless number to almost all - although Bristol's hydroponic shop and seed bank is, amusingly, just off the road called the A420...

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#23912 - 04/30/09 12:28 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Speaking from personal experience, weed holds up pretty well after time without freezing. It may be stale, but the effect remains.

Interesting semi-related tidbit: there was an episode of "Rosanne" where Dan and Rosanne find a 2 year old joint in the house and get high. If it's on T.V., it's gotta be true!
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#24397 - 05/10/09 03:21 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: KaosKrieg]
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marijuana only numbs, and dumbs the mind. in essence it makes you stupid. i have seen many, many very intelligent people go to shit because they couldn't finish a fucking sentence without taking a bong hit.

i, personally, don't get anything from it. i smoked it twice. and i hated it both times. i couldn't hold a conversation without forgetting what i was about to say, it was annoying.

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#24411 - 05/10/09 06:29 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Demosthysias]
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I know many intelligent people who smoke pot. Like any other substance it only becomes a problem if you let it. Marijuana doesn't make people stupid, people make people stupid.
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#24421 - 05/10/09 10:39 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Demosthysias]
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 Originally Posted By: Demosthysias
marijuana only numbs, and dumbs the mind. in essence it makes you stupid. i have seen many, many very intelligent people go to shit because they couldn't finish a fucking sentence without taking a bong hit.

Carl Sagan seemed intelligent, productive, ground breaking even. Not bad for a pot head.

I've seen people I know deteriorate with nothing but the intake of air over time. Not every brain is built the same.

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#24425 - 05/11/09 02:16 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I occasionally smoke pot, usually when I have nothing better to do (lame excuse I know). But whenever I write music while messed up, it sounds a little better because I'm more focused.

I honestly don't think it's that bad, but it does make it's way into the hands of a lot of dumbasses that decide to go driving around at night.
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#24474 - 05/11/09 08:38 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Tranceparent Sky]
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I personally feel that cannabis doesn't do any good for me. Last time I had anything related to it, I ended up being miserable for the whole weekend. So I cut it out of my life.

I would say that in my personal opinion, it's the user that is the problem and not the drug. I won't hold it against weed for what people have done that have smoked it or my own psychological problems that have come along after smoking it.

Although I'd definitely say that weed is only a key to unlocking the door of the true psyche of the individual, and not a cause of stupid behaviour. But hey; I'm just theorising here.
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#24492 - 05/12/09 12:58 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: DistroyA]
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weed is only a key to unlocking the door of the true psyche of the individual


Bullshit. It's no more a key than masturbation.

Crutch, anyone?

If you "need" a drug in order to accomplish something, then instead of parading that around like it's something to be proud of, perhaps you should work on evolving yourself as a human a tad more (not speaking to you specifically here, but the general You).

That reminds me of when I worked at the post office. I was a rural carrier associate (that's a glorified title that means "fill in") and my regular was a born again. She told me the tale of how strung out she was and how her life was in tatters before she "found god" (I had no idea he was missing...) and my first thought was, "What? You can't do it on your own?"

If you have to depend on anything to get you by on a regular basis, it's a crutch. Whether it be religion, drugs, boy/girlfriend...ANYTHING. I never fail to be amazed that people parade around their dependency on such like there's pride to be had in not being able to carry out your life without the aid of same.

Weak.

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#24496 - 05/12/09 02:12 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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True. But one could argue some of the greatest classics of culture came from "artists" under the influence. Hendrix, The Doors, Led Zepplin, Nirvana, Joplin. Classic movies, classic works of art, classic novels. Who is to say that without the aid of substances, these artists would have been able to create what they did? How much of a role did the substances play in their creative nature? Some of my best ideas have come after a few sips of alcohol. Conversely, some of my most embarassing ideas have come after a few sips of alcohol.

Would the Doors still be a recognized icon of music today if Jim had been sober the whole time? Or would the music and lyrics just be another footnote in history?
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#24497 - 05/12/09 03:27 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: fakepropht]
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Many artists have found their muse in the use of mind altering substances, but at the same time many have succumb to their addictions. A distinction must be made between use and abuse (indulgense vs compulsion).

I will not condemn anyone who wishes to engage in the use of recreational drugs but I have nothing but contempt for people who let drugs or any other "cructh" run their life.

I partied all throughout highschool but also attended class, did the work, and got good grades. I knew many people who tried to have the same lifestyle but were not able to balance work and play.

It has been said that drug addiction is a disease, but I do not believe that. Addiction is no more of a disease then pedophelia is. Polio is a disease, AIDS is a disease, addiction is nothing more than the mark of a weak willed individual.
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#24498 - 05/12/09 03:46 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I couldn't agree more to your statement that "addiction is no more a disease than pedophilia" There are some serious diseases infiltrating our day to day life. The word disease used instead of addiction is used only for a reasonable excuse for abusing illegal narcotics. Legal ones for that matter. Some individuals are very weak willed and that is because of their surroundings as a child. We as a whole can not condemn anyone for their addictions.."diseases?"
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#24504 - 05/12/09 07:38 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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I didn't mean that in a positive way either. I personally see weed as a negative thing personally. Hell, even alcohol and nicotine (Ironic how I'm still trying to quit smoking and continue to occasionally drink alcohol...). But hey, that's my opinion only.

*Shrugs*
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#24509 - 05/12/09 10:56 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Bullshit. It's no more a key than masturbation.

Crutch, anyone?


Masturbation and psychotropic drugs are two different things. And so what if pot is a crutch? That would refer to the fact that someone needs it medically. It's been known that most of the perscription drugs people take are more harmful than marijuana. Speaking from experience, it's a much safer alternative.

And all drugs are 'crutches' unless they are used recreationly. The only difference between taking zoloft or pot for depression, or vicodin and pot for pain and so on is that pot is illegal. Sure it's harmful to some extent, but compared to most other drugs that are prescribed by doctors pot is the miracle drug.

And I have to agree with DestroyA on this. I do feel that when I smoke pot I reach a higher level of thinking and am able to comprehend things and process thoughts on a whole new level.

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If you have to depend on anything to get you by on a regular basis, it's a crutch. Whether it be religion, drugs, boy/girlfriend...ANYTHING. I never fail to be amazed that people parade around their dependency on such like there's pride to be had in not being able to carry out your life without the aid of same.


Agreed. But what's wrong with that? Let's use a friend of mine for example. He's had the shittiest life you can imagine, family problems and such. He saw doctors over and over again until they finally got him on the right medication. I have to say he is doing a lot better with the medication.

Although the drugs are a crutch, they do help you walk.
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#24510 - 05/12/09 11:10 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Demosthysias]
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And you know this from only smoking 2 times? LOL! Well I guess it made one person stupid.

I've seen many very intelligent people who smoke pot all the time and still function normally. It's mearly an altered state of mind. You need to learn to function while you're stoned (if you're going to smoke often). If you're not going to use it that often then of course you're not going to get used to the feeling.

I HATE the whole "burnout" stereotype about people who smoke pot. There's a lot of people who smoke pot with good jobs and families to support.

Just putting this out there, before you make an idiotic post with poor grammer about something you obviously don't know anything about, at least check wikipedia or google.
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#24511 - 05/13/09 12:04 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Mike]
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The crutch you are talking about is different from the crutch Toni was talking about. She was referring to people who use to cope with reality, not some debiliating condition. And I would agree with her that people who "need" it just to "get through the day" are pathetic.

Everyone has problems, it is a fact of life and no amount of any drug will truly help. I know, I know, saying that it only makes one forget about there problems and doesn't do anything to fix them sounds like a cliche after-school special, but it is true none the less.

On a side note, here are two quotes I enjoy pertaining to the matter at hand:

"Reality is just a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs" - Lily Tomlin

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anybody, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson
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#24521 - 05/13/09 10:02 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: fakepropht]
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 Originally Posted By: fakepropht
Hendrix, The Doors, Led Zepplin, Nirvana, Joplin. Classic movies, classic works of art, classic novels. Who is to say that without the aid of substances, these artists would have been able to create what they did?


Yeah, and most of them are pushing daisies. While substances may have aided them, they were consumed by them. If they would've put the needle down they probably could've accomplished more. In my opinion I think it's more talented to be able to create WITHOUT the use of drugs.
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#24561 - 05/13/09 10:17 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Mike]
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Move along, Mikey. You obviously haven't been reading the thread.

And you know what? Since you want to bring the medical world into this, I totally agree that most presciption drugs are crutches as well. Sorry to take the wind out of your little sail of victory.

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I do feel that when I smoke pot I reach a higher level of thinking and am able to comprehend things and process thoughts on a whole new level.


So? That doesn't mean that you aren't weak willed. That just means that you admit that you are incapable of harnessing your own intellect without the aid of drugs. Remind me, how is that something to be proud of?

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He's had the shittiest life you can imagine, family problems and such. He saw doctors over and over again until they finally got him on the right medication. I have to say he is doing a lot better with the medication.


I guess it never occurred to your friend to change his situation, huh? OH! That would require effort, and we all know that "effort" is synonymous with "evisceration"...

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#24564 - 05/13/09 10:38 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Some people can not function without medication.
The natural chemicals/balances in their body is just outta whack.

Drugs do help these people.

As to illegal substances, it varies with the time periods.
What was legal becomes illegal, then legal again.

Yes, when you need a drink to function, it's a crutch.
When you need heroin to function it's a crutch. Even if at one point it was legal and the best thing for asmtha.

When you need a substance to get out of bed, it may be a crutch.
If the substance stops voices, controls cancer pains, and stabizes your vital signs, its not a crutch, its necessary.

Pot does help people, but as with any substance, there will be people who will abuse it.

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#24568 - 05/13/09 11:10 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Mike]
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I heard on the radio today that one of Snoop Dogg's entourage was caught with weed. Snoop pulled out his medicinal marijuana prescription and said the weed was his and that the guy was just accepting the package on his behalf. How funny is that? That Snoop has a prescription for marijuana? Kind of like allowing a pedophile to open a day care center.

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#24642 - 05/15/09 09:06 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Morgan]
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I know, but the point of the conversation was about the people who do NOT need a type of medication (including pot) to be able to function. It was about people who are just too weak to do anything else. Mike dragging legitimate medical needs into it is like trying to justify illegal immigration by saying that some mexicans arrive through the proper channels. It's neither here nor there because the conversation has nothing to do with the LEGITIMATE cases.

Though I agree with you regarding the people who honestly need medication. I have a friend who is a paranoid schizophrenic and truly needs medication in order to function in any type of rational way. I would never dream of criticizing him for his cabinet full of pills. But the guy who's first waking thought is "I need to get high" is just a loser. Period.

And for the record, I had a very heated exchange of correspondence with my congressman many years ago regarding the medical benefits of marijuana. Not every pot smoker is a dope fiend, but if you aren't dying of cancer or aids, going blind from glaucoma, or suffering from any of the other legitimate uses of the stuff and you just want it because you are too weak or lazy to deal with reality, then in my opinion you are a loser. (And I don't mean you per se, I mean you the masses).

Pot, et al., is illegal. Even if I did enjoy the stuff (which I do not because I enjoy clarity of thought and pot prevents it for me), it would still be out of the question for me because I value my freedom more than I do a high. There are plenty of legal ways to escape reality and I think only a fool would jeopardize that.

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#24648 - 05/16/09 01:45 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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I didn't realize that satanists were so button down. I'm of the school of thought that if I want to ingest, smoke, inject or snort a substance then that would be my business as it is my body.

I don't expect anyone to roll me out of the pool of blood, vomit or other excretia as it was my decision to take such action in the first place and I am responsible.

Calling someone a loser for smoking pot is laughable. Does not smoking pot make me a winner? Is drinking alcohol allowed?
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#24649 - 05/16/09 02:36 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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Just how does getting high make you a winner?

Do you think you are *more satanic* because you break the law and get away with it? If so then you are a moron because on the off chance that you ARE caught, there goes your freedom. On the upside, though, prison is full of *love*.

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I'm of the school of thought that if I want to ingest, smoke, inject or snort a substance then that would be my business as it is my body


It's also your business if you want to fuck a collie, but that doesn't mean that I cannot have an opinion on it. If you don't like my opinion, don't chime in. AND, if you don't like my opinion, make a reply that actually says something. Your post is a waste of my time because you don't back up a damn thing you say and you don't say much anyway. Put some fucking effort into it...or did you get high and forget what you were typing?

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I didn't realize that satanists were so button down.


It's not a matter of whether or not I'm "hip" and personally I don't give two shits whether or not you think I'm cool. Read the entire thread. If you diagree with the overall theme that people who cannot make it through life without unnecessary crutches are losers then post an actual reply, not a few lines saying that my opinion is laughable...without even explaining WHY my opinion is laughable.

You have brought a spoon to a swordfight, little hippy boy. Why don't you come back when you are able to flesh out your post and actually back up what you claim.


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#24650 - 05/16/09 02:38 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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Responsibility to the responsible, and, indulgence, not, compulsion.

I think the most important word there is responsibility. No, smoking pot does not make you a loser, but, if your entire life revolves around getting high; you are a loser. And if you need drugs to function, thus the use becoming more of a compulsion than an indulgence, you are also a loser. Ultimately each must take responsiblity for their actions. Regardless of whether their actions are the result of an indulgence or a compulsion.

It has been said that since the most important thing to the Satanist is their own life, they won't participate in the use of drugs.(I am paraphrasing of course) To me this seems a little hypocritical. Especially when one takes into account the dictum of "indulgence not compulsion".

If I choose to indulge in a bowl of weed, a shot of Jack or even a line coke; isn't that ultimately my decision? If abstinence is so abhored shouldn't it be my "right" to indulge in the use of mind altering substances? I am mine own redeemer, after all.

Since the true pleasures of our lives reside solely in the earthly realm; who are you to condemn me for doing everything I can to get the "most" out of it? I realize that there are those who might choose to live a "clean" lifestyle, and, more power to them, but how you choose to live your life will not always synch up with how another choses to live theirs.
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#24651 - 05/16/09 02:50 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Was that last part to me?

There is nothing abhorrent in and of abstaining. I abstain from a lot of things that do not benefit me in the grand scheme of things, such as murdering people who piss me off and burning down institutions whose ideals I disagree with.

I know people who smoke pot and though I disagree with their choice to do so, I begrudge some of them the right because they have good paying jobs, take care of their responsibilities, and put those responsibilities first. Do I think they are a loser? In a way, yes. Because one bad traffic stop or one ill-timed drug test is all it would take to ruin everything they worked for.

I reiterate my previous statement: (sane and medically sound) People who must depend on ANYTHING in order to get them through the day are losers. They are weak, they are fools and they are cowards. Indulgence is one thing, obsession is another. And like I have also previously stated, there are plenty of legal methods of getting high.

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#24652 - 05/16/09 02:56 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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I live in Dopeland. It is not as tolerant as the Dutch but at some levels we are ranking second at that aspect. Personally I do have no problems with drugs and occasionally I do use them. But at no level I have ever been dependent upon them. I can use frequently and when tired of it, go months/years without. Me and alcohol is similar. I dig it for a while, then have absolutely no need for it.

I went through the whole drugs and getting more out of yourself experimentation; the old idea that drugs do somehow open up something at creative levels. I tried a lot, ranging from alcohol to other chemical substances, and in all cases, the next morning I had more work erasing the shit on the canvas than admiring what I produced. I do think that the unlocking nature of drugs is an excuse for people acting upon that what they really desire instead of repressing it as they are programmed to do. The ass-pinching drunk is a nice example. That is what the dude really wants to do but not until alcohol lowered his self-control far enough, he actually dares to.

I can't say I ever had great thoughts while being intoxicated. The brain works best when being sober. Being drunk and thinking is like watching porn; you only remember some details but have no clue what the story was about. Those that say they have splendid ideas only when being far-out, I suspect of not using it properly when being close-in. Drugs should only be seen as taking a vacation from yourself. Or to avoid side-effects while using other substances.

What I largely noticed in Dopeland here is not that tolerance of drugs leads into a disaster. In fact in non-tolerant countries, dumbness seems to be on a march too so I don't think it is drug related at all. But daily users here, or at least those that I know, seem to change in what I call turtles. There is some sort of apathy that is triggered in them, not only in their highs but also in their tox-free periods. As if life is nothing but slowly floating on and leaving all effort or progress behind. Or course this is not the case for all.

I do not oppose drugs. At best it is identical to mentally going on a vacation and at its worst it is a splendid artificial selection mechanism that weeds out those that social Darwinism can't reach.

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#24653 - 05/16/09 02:56 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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LOL Toni, no, nothing was directed at you \:\) I was simply stating my point of view. I understand where you are coming from, and I agree. When I said "you" I didn't mean you in particular. I was referring to "you" as a cohesive mass of holier than thou, thou shalt not'ers.
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#24659 - 05/16/09 09:07 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Dear Ceruleansteel,

I still find you amusing, and strangely alluring. I must have some kind of thing for females that exude power. If Condoleeza hit me up for a one night stand I'd find it hard to say no.

You seem to be obsessed with ranking people. You are damn right that it's my business whether I fuck a collie or not. That's if the collie is consenting and over 16 in dog years (What is that like three?).

I'm not saying that smoking pot is cool. I'm just saying that some people choose to do it and that would be their business.

I'm sorry if my posts aren't up to scratch - I didn't realise it was a competition. Calling me a hippy doesn't really sting that much. You say hippy like it's a bad thing.

Love, light and peace.
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#24660 - 05/16/09 09:39 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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You know lolipop..
I don't mind seeing people rolling a joint, taking drugs etc.

Once in a month I even use a waterpipe. I can still say no if they offer me a smoke or a joint.

Drugs only work dormant. Drugs are silent killers. You can smoke or use it once in a while. Even as much as you like. But from the day you decide you want to stop because you have that "nasty cough", it's over. You'll quickly start noticing you are missing your "daily" relaxation. From that point, your life is being ruled by the drugs.

Steel has a point ranking you lower because of it. I do the same thing. Drugs might be fun, but their side-effects aren't. Many nutjobs and hippies claim "it isn't that bad". Well they are right. It is worse.... I've already seen people starting to smoke weed and the whole downward process that occurred. I didn't mind as long as I wasn't bothered. But hell, I hate to see potential rotting away by a lack of backbone. But then again.. they deserved it..


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#24669 - 05/16/09 12:54 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Dimitri]
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I never said I did smoke pot. I just believe that if someone wants to do something that brings no harm to others then that is fine by me.

I find your obsession with ranking people strangely freudian in an anal-retentive parent pleasing kind of way.


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#24671 - 05/16/09 02:31 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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I never said I did smoke pot. I just believe that if someone wants to do something that brings no harm to others then that is fine by me.

Last time I heard you in the video chat you were smoking a bong.. Now, I don't know what you might have put in it. But even so tobacco is also considered drugs..

Becoming an addict is automatically bringing harm to someone, ofcourse not in a direct way, but you can be considered as a rotten spot within society. And despite all the individuality one wants to represent, I'm part of society and thus you are annoying me indirectly... And I'm quite a bad person when annoyed.

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I find your obsession with ranking people strangely freudian in an anal-retentive parent pleasing kind of way.

Ranking people is part of ones social behaviour, it's natural. You might think whatever you want but for thusfar, you are ranking way below me..
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#24675 - 05/16/09 03:41 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Dimitri]
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As a sample of writing this has several faults. If we want to start ranking with another lets start with grammar.

 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
Becoming an addict is automatically bringing harm to someone, ofcourse not in a direct way, but you can be considered as a rotten spot within society. And despite all the individuality one wants to represent, I'm part of society and thus you are annoying me indirectly... And I'm quite a bad person when annoyed.

You start two sentences with the word 'and'. Your sentence structure several contains 'run-ons' and you need to learn how to write a succinct sentence.


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#24678 - 05/16/09 03:54 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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I got the excuse English ISN'T my mothertongue...
Altough I know proper knowledge of the English language is a must here, I'm quite sure most members don't seem to be bothered by it.

If it get's worse admins or other members just have to give a little ring.

But seeing you, using some grammar mistakes because you can't defend yourself against critics given on you personally, against me is just a sign of idiotism. Which is ANOTHER reason why you rank below me. I have been here for almost a year . YOU just entered here as a "newb" and are starting to act as if you are "one of the big ones".
Let me get this straight.. you aren't. If I was some random idiot, like most newbs who enter here, I was being kicked out long ago. The fact I'm still here means I've at least contributed something to the forums.

I might not be one of the more respectable green, blue or red members, but being here for quite some time without any ban at least is a proof of being above the average nutjob like you entering here.

Now I suggest you to keep your stupid comments to yourself unless you have something worthwhile to say. Otherwise: you are free to leave.
I'm not responding anymore to you, and I'm quite sure I wouldn't miss something.
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#24679 - 05/16/09 03:56 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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 Originally Posted By: love.light.peace
As a sample of writing this has several faults. If we want to start ranking with another lets start with grammar.

Dimitri is from Belgium. How is your Dutch and Flemish?

Let's keep this on track please. Tread lightly.

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#24685 - 05/16/09 07:04 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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 Originally Posted By: love.light.peace
Dear Ceruleansteel,

I still find you amusing, and strangely alluring. I must have some kind of thing for females that exude power. If Condoleeza hit me up for a one night stand I'd find it hard to say no.

You seem to be obsessed with ranking people. You are damn right that it's my business whether I fuck a collie or not. That's if the collie is consenting and over 16 in dog years (What is that like three?).

I'm not saying that smoking pot is cool. I'm just saying that some people choose to do it and that would be their business.

I'm sorry if my posts aren't up to scratch - I didn't realise it was a competition. Calling me a hippy doesn't really sting that much. You say hippy like it's a bad thing.

Love, light and peace.



All that typing and you still did not answer my question(s).

Let's start with an easy one:

How does smoking pot make you a winner?

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#24687 - 05/16/09 07:23 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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If the game is 'who smokes pot first' then smoking pot makes you a winner \:\)

But in all seriousness, many that smoke pot do turn into brainless lumps with no motivation. But so what really?

I find all the arguments against drug use to pale in scope when compared with the arguments against restricting peoples freedoms.

If what someone does isn't effecting you, it isn't a crime, nor is it your business. If someone wants to inject themselves with some bleach, it's their business, not mine, or yours.

Honestly, I find the preachy 'I know how to live life better than you' types to be far more of a nuisance than an entire army of potheads.

What matters is how someone performs. Results. The rest is nitpicking.
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#24723 - 05/17/09 12:42 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Dan_Dread]
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How does smoking pot make you a winner?

You need to define winner. If you smoke pot and come to a new realisation then that might be considered some kind of win. Maybe that realisation might be that smoking pot is for losers.

As aforementioned in this thread the smoking of pot could influence you creatively and in turn benefit you or others.
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#24748 - 05/17/09 10:02 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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You need to define winner.


No, YOU need to define 'winner'. You are the one that said you believed smoking pot made you a winner, so YOU are the one that has to set the parameters and back up what you say. You have failed - so far - to do that.

"If" and "you might" and "maybe" does not make for a very impressive debate.

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#24750 - 05/18/09 12:02 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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I think he is simply trying to assert the antithesis of "smoking pot makes one a loser", much like how those who march on 'gay pride' parades are trying to assert the antithesis of shame.

Kind of like a knee-jerk reaction from the uncomfortable to the feelgood.
In other words, winner feels better than loser, so it's better to believe apparently. ;\)

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#24754 - 05/18/09 07:35 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Meq]
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Does smoking pot make you a winner? No. Does not smoking pot make you a winner? No. Is this thread going nowhere? I think so.
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#24763 - 05/18/09 10:25 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Yes this is thread is hurtling towards utter pointlessness. I'm sure it's not the first or will it be the last.

Dear ceruleansteel,
I never said smoking pot makes you a winner. One of the rules of debating is that you can't just make shit up. You said that smoking pot makes you a loser and I disagreed. I know people that I would define as losers that smoke pot. I also know people that are successful, intelligent and charismatic that smoke pot.

You have a Randian way of viewing the world.
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#24778 - 05/18/09 11:29 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: love.light.peace]
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I confess, I misunderstood your tone in the sentence and interpreted it in a different way than it was intended.

And I never said that smoking pot made you a loser, per se. I said that having a dependency on ANYTHING (including pot, as part of a list of examples) made you a loser.

But now that I understand the meaning of your statement: Yes. In a way, NOT smoking pot makes you more of a winner than smoking pot. All of your successful, intelligent friends would be ruined if they got caught with dope or failed a workplace drug test.

The point of this thread was not the casual smoker, but the ADDICT who is controlled by their dependence on ANYTHING, pot included, but not limited. But the casual smoker should reflect on whether or not his part time hobby would derail his life's work and his future successes, and whether or not the fun of the high outweighs the possibility of losing everything they have gained and will gain in the future.

I have a ceruleansteel way of viewing the world.

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#24971 - 05/25/09 10:00 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Side note, WHY is pot really illegal? Think of the money the government would be making if it was sold and taxed legally.

That should bring us out of debt.
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#24974 - 05/25/09 12:03 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Tranceparent Sky]
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The reason that Marijuana is illegal, in the US, is because in the 1930's hemp was on the fast track to replacing timber as the countries most lucerative cash crop. The fact that it could cheaply and effeciently be used to make everything from textiles to fuel for cars made it a threat to the DuPont company's profit margins.

So a smear campaign was launched against the plant. People were made to belive that smoking pot turned people into violent killers who would stop at nothing to get their next fix (see "Reefer Madness). The Office of National Drug Control Policy released sever fake findings on studies of the drug including one that said "Marijuana is directly causative to the crime of rape by negroes".

It was also said that smoking pot could lead to *gasp* listening to Jazz. The bullshit doesn't stop there. There was also the Marijuana Taxt Stamp Act of 1937 and a whole laundry list of other falsified statistics.

Yes legalizing and taxing Marijuana could bring in a lot of money, and that idea is nothing new; but, the government already makes a shitload of money by having it illegal. So don't hold your breath.
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#24978 - 05/25/09 04:54 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
Responsibility to the responsible, and, indulgence, not, compulsion.

I think the most important word there is responsibility. No, smoking pot does not make you a loser, but, if your entire life revolves around getting high; you are a loser.


Who are you to call someone a loser as humans what gives us a right to criticize others based on how they spend free time you are no better than a christian next you will say anyone who does this or that is goodor evil and what is your fucking standard on a winner in the situation so until we reach hell if you out rank people who smoke pot alot dont criticize us
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#24981 - 05/25/09 05:16 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: lefthanded]
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 Originally Posted By: lefthanded
 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
Responsibility to the responsible, and, indulgence, not, compulsion.

I think the most important word there is responsibility. No, smoking pot does not make you a loser, but, if your entire life revolves around getting high; you are a loser.


Who are you to call someone a loser as humans what gives us a right to criticize others based on how they spend free time you are no better than a christian next you will say anyone who does this or that is goodor evil and what is your fucking standard on a winner in the situation so until we reach hell if you out rank people who smoke pot alot dont criticize us


I am going to show you how this is done.

Who are you to call someone a loser? As humans, what gives us a right to criticize others based on how they spend free time?
You are no better than a christian.
Next, you will say anyone who does this or that is good or evil. What is your fucking standard on a winner in the situation? So until we reach Hell, if you outrank people who smoke pot alot, don't criticize us.


Your closing sentence actually makes no sense, but there it is.
You need not have a masterful command of the English language here, but putting a minimum of effort into your posts certainly helps.

That said, I think you completely missed the point of the poster you attempted to assault. If, as he states, your entire life does indeed revolve around getting high, then that is to be expected, and this is not the place for you.



Edited by Bacchae (05/25/09 05:17 PM)

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#24990 - 05/25/09 10:56 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: lefthanded]
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Thanks for the back-up, Bacchae. With that being said I will now respond to the muppet in question:

 Originally Posted By: lefthanded
Who are you to call someone a loser as humans what gives us a right to criticize others based on how they spend free time


You answered your own question there, most likely without even knowing it. As a human I have the right to do whatever the fuck I damn well please. That includes criticizing other people.

How one spends their free time is certainly their business, but, if you spend all your free time smoking pot; you are a slave as well as an ipso-facto loser, and therefore worthy of my contempt.

I smoke pot, I also drink and engage in the use of other illicit substances on occasion. But, I know that there is more to life than just getting high and I also know that if all I do is get high I will be missing out on the finer things.

 Originally Posted By: lefthanded
you are no better than a christian next you will say anyone who does this or that is goodor evil


I like how you know what I am going to say before I do. You must be psychic or something. I wouldn't be surprised; all your posts have shown how intelligent you really are. ;\)

 Originally Posted By: lefthanded
and what is your fucking standard on a winner in the situation


Rest assured you most certainly do not hold up to my standards of what constitutes a winner. That is all you really need to know.

 Originally Posted By: lefthanded
so until we reach hell if you out rank people who smoke pot alot dont criticize us


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#25006 - 05/26/09 04:01 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I still say that pot, just like any other "medication" if that's what it's being used for, can be used for extended periods of time and I think there's no reason for the loser label in that type of situation. This is referring to those who actually need it constantly for whatever reason they have.
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#25007 - 05/26/09 04:10 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Mike]
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Mike, you aren't getting it. I never said anything about people who use it as medicine. I was referring to your typical pot head who does nothing but smoke pot all day long. The burn outs.

However, there are people who abuse the Medicinal Marijuana Act, much like other prescription medicine. Here in Oregon a "Green Card" is really easy to get. All I would have to do is complain to a doctor enough about back pains (since they can't prove my back doesn't hurt) and BAM; 6 months and $250 later I have a card allowing me to smoke, possess and grow pot legally. Provided I don't sell it or possess over a certain amount.

Also, "need" is really funny word. To me you really only need things that will keep you alive. Water, oxygen and food are things you need. The rest are just luxuries.


Edited by 6Satan6Archist6 (05/26/09 04:12 PM)
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#25011 - 05/26/09 07:53 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I see what you're saying. The people who "abuse" rather than "use" a substance.

And a green card really costs $250? What about the price of the pot afterward?
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#25013 - 05/26/09 09:54 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Mike]
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Yes that is roughly the ammount one would pay to get their card. The price for the pot itself would vary as you have different options. You could get it from a dispensary, you could grow it yourself, hell, you could even buy it from your neighbor if they sold it. That last one probably isn't legal though.
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#25041 - 05/27/09 03:10 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Hmm, interesting. Last I heard the federal government still does raids on people growing at home in medical states. What are you only aloud to do it at home?
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#25050 - 05/27/09 05:58 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: Mike]
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Yes raids are always a possiblity. Funny how states can form their own laws but the federal government can still intercede. Luckily the feds usually tend to raid dispensaires or large scale grow ops.

So unless you are yeilding way over the maximum amount allowed I wouldn't worry about the feds. Keep in mind, though, that local law enforcement can and will bust you for having too much.

I am unfamiliar with the other minute details as I am not a cardholder. If you are interested you should look up the laws in your state as those are the ones that would apply to you.
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#25051 - 05/27/09 06:39 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Yeah, it's bullshit. And I like how Obama laughed when he was asked if he would ever legal pot for medicinal purposes. Big dissapointment there.

I already looked up the laws. Apparently in NY it's decriminalized, all they can really do is fine you depending on how much you have and how many offences you have.
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#25060 - 05/27/09 08:08 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I'm wondering if the federal government has any right to regulate drug laws in the first place. It seems to me that something like that should be on a state level because the federal government only has those rights which are expressly granted within the constitution....dammit, now I'm going to have to go geek out over it for a while...
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#25064 - 05/28/09 01:37 AM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Well apparently the federal government feels they have a right to regulate drug laws. And yes, it should be up to the individual states - since idividual states can choose to legalize them in the first place; but the way things should be and the way things are seldom match up.

Since the federal government is responsible for the control of prescription drugs, via the FDA, they (certain politians) have no doubt ended up in bed with pharmaceutical companies and indebted through campaign contributions etc.

Being that one can not hold a patent on anything that is all natural; it would be impossible for pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline, Merck & Co., et al. to get a patent on Marijuana (there are THC pills like Marinol, but are ineffective,too expensive and seldom bought).

Since none of these companies can really cash in on medicinal Marijuana, and because of that, neither can these politicians; it is in both of their best interests to curb the medicinal use of marijuana. Let's also not forget the threat Marijuana/Hemp poses to the textile, timber and oil companies.

Conspiracy theory? Perhaps, but think about it.
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#25075 - 05/28/09 12:23 PM Re: Dude, Where's My Pot? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I'm going to continue this in a new thread in the politics section so that we stay on topic here.
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