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#2518 - 12/03/07 06:11 PM Legal smoking herbs
Meq Offline
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I am just curious... has anyone ever tried smoking legal psychoactive herbal mixtures and substances?

I heard of Blueberry Haze, a (currently) legal substitute for cannabis.
Its herbal ingredients contain:
Kratom, salvia divinorum, wild opium lettuce, scullcap, red clover, siberian motherwort, maconha brava, leonotis leonurus, pedicularis, baybean, blue lotus, hops, honey, vanilla and blueberry.

A guy I saw selling it insisted that its potency was 'comparable' with its 'illegal equivalent'...

Of course, its effects are not the same as cannabis, but it has been reported to induce a mellow cerebral high and sense of warmth.
I'd also strongly advise against driving after smoking this. It does not show up on drug blood tests, but it does have the potential to make driving extremely dangerous (especially if mixed with alcohol or any other substances, it may multiply the effects...)

In terms of mixing, I also saw a nicotine-free herbal alternative to tobacco - Farmers Honeyblend herbal smoking mixture.
It contains:
Marshmallow leaves, red clover flowers and rose petals -
matured in honey and fruit juices.

I heard some people even mix it with the Blueberry Haze herbal smoking blend.


Perhaps there are better varieties available in different areas, and different flavours too.

Anyone got any stories to tell about these legal herbs?

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#2522 - 12/03/07 07:12 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: Meq]
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#2524 - 12/03/07 07:27 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: Meq]
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Interesting you should post this right now. I'm currently studying a homeopathic and herbal medicine unit, and a keen interest of mine is finding herbal alternatives to weed, or opiates. Mainly for palliative care, and an alternative to Methadone for treatment of opiate addiction.

Both are excellent forms of pain releif, but mostly synthetic treatments are used in the mainstream. Hideous side effects, and swiftly addictive. Gross

Thanks for an excellent source of info \:\)
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#2539 - 12/04/07 07:05 AM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: Circus_Hell]
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tried a few and of course none come close to hash at all.Tried that salvia stuff and felt terrible afterwards.Not sick but just in a vicious mood, wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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#2541 - 12/04/07 12:08 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: jesusbeater]
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I wish this information could remain "occult"...

The internet is encouraging and destroying all "alternative" sources of euphoria. We just list them away... and give the DEA a shopping list of new crimes to invent.

Then some morons actually try it, and post it all over YouTube... like those salvia divinorum videos - how long until "salvia" is criminalized?

Sorry if that's a downer - I'm looking after the plants here.

Save our legal alternatives! Smoke a bowl of the real stuff!
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#2553 - 12/04/07 09:15 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: daevid777]
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\:\) \:\( ;\)
SHIT YEAH.............-+

that will do pig

D.L,B.



LOL.LOL.LOLLOL..LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.


Edited by SSSnake (12/04/07 09:25 PM)
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#2556 - 12/04/07 10:11 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: SSSnake]
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Wow, SSS, your colors and emoticons give me a headache...

I've never done "mind altering substances," legal or otherwise, with the exception of a couple of weeks on Percoset when I got my tonsils out. I was invited to do Salvia once, but it just didn't seem worth it. My friends have some funny stories though... Something about thinking he was flying over a city, then as he came out of it, he would look around and see his friends and the room, but he would look down and see his feet flying a hundred feet above the ground.

I guess, all good things must come to an end. All currently illegal drugs were once legal, so it's only a matter of time before these alternatives are banned as well, regardless of whether we list them here or not. It just depends on sales, popularity, and popular media coverage. As long as word doesn't get out to people who don't approve of drugs, it's not really an issue. As soon as some popular, beautiful teenage girl is raped and murdered by a friend while she's high, or a couple of boys decide to drive under the influence and cause a major, deadly collision, these legal alternatives will hit the news on 24 hour coverage and then it's only a matter of time before a salvia scare leads to a ban the way it was with pot and LSD. At least the current media is more preoccupied with young kids stealing their parent's prescription drugs than with adults legally purchasing a pot substitute. My only question is, do we really know that these alternatives are safe? A lot of plants that can get you high are also extremely deadly. As I said before, I wouldn't risk it.
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#2574 - 12/05/07 01:40 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: undeadridinghood]
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My only question is, do we really know that these alternatives are safe? A lot of plants that can get you high are also extremely deadly.


Your are correct Mademoiselle...

"Legal" has never necessarily been a synonym for "safe". And these herbs or "substances" as they may be... aren't exclusively "legal", they are just under the radar for now. Driving after drinking "Jimson weed" tea wouldn't be a "legal" action. Nor would hanging around the police station after ingesting Salvia divinorum - well, at least it wouldn't be a good idea. Drug laws get quite confusing, especially when you consider (a.) mixtures - it really makes no sense at all. Taking one drug to enable the effects of another drug - amazing.

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It just depends on sales, popularity, and popular media coverage.


And we, the proud and free - should do our part to keep such things safe.
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#2576 - 12/05/07 02:48 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: daevid777]
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I personally ingest only one drug that is not given to me by a doctor and even then I complain when given drugs.

Caffeine.

Caffeine is the only drug I have. I don't smoke or drink. I don't use any herbal mixtures, incense or recreational drugs, legal or otherwise. I've never seen the need to.
Caffeine is only in my diet because I made a mistake as a child. Coke. Coke is full of the stuff and I am quite literally an addict. I drink it in large quantities and I enjoy it. It's probably not that good for me.

When it comes to drugs, I don't like them, however I would fight tooth and nail for yours and my own right to take whatever drugs we see fit. Our bodies, we should do whatever the hell we want with them. Legal herbs are only legal because the government hasn't noticed any crimes associated with it, wait until people start driving under the influence or blaming violent outbursts on it and it'll be made illegal. It should be the acts involved though, not the substance, that's made illegal.
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#2577 - 12/05/07 04:24 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: Meq]
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Ive tried Panama Gold made by International Oddities Inc. \:\(
You know what cracks me up? it is like there add in High Times at the bottom of the add it reads these products are not marijuana. \:o
NO FUCKING SHIT! nor do they taste like it, or smoke like it, or evan catch you a buzz.
Its like drinking a odou'ls instead of a real beer.

PS. udeadridinghood i hope your headache is better

D.L.B..


Edited by SSSnake (12/05/07 04:27 PM)
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#2581 - 12/05/07 08:58 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: daevid777]
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I hereby appoint you the Chief of Homeland Herbal Quality Control \:D

If you choose to accept this mission, please press the "#" key. Para español, aprieta por favor 2. Or hold on the line to speak with a customer service representative. This call may be monitored for quality assurance purposes.

Doug, the colors in your post are hurting my brain. Owwwww....
Can I call you Duggles?

Where's my wine? Dammit....


Edited by Nemesis (12/05/07 09:02 PM)
Edit Reason: so pretty.....
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#2583 - 12/05/07 09:47 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: Nemesis]
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Hello, this is the new Chief of Homeland Herbal Quality Control, the HHQC... I'd like to place an immediate order for 2000 High Pressure Sodium and 1300 Metal Halide lights, 5000 lbs. of rockwool, and 1500 gallons of concentrated plant micronutrient solution. Hello? Hello?

"Para Espanol oprima dos"


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#2592 - 12/06/07 10:51 AM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: Nemesis]
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Doug, the colors in your post are hurting my brain. Owwwww....

sorry Nemesis

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Can I call you Duggles?


Yes you may call me what you wish. ;\)
we just made three gal. of mulberry wine it has a strange taste but one hell of a kick. To bad I can't e-mail you a glass.


daevid777, I see you are well qualified for the job. O and try to stop that mexican shit from comming over the border, out west there, lol.

D.L.B. \:\)


Edited by SSSnake (12/06/07 11:03 AM)
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#2593 - 12/06/07 11:33 AM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: SSSnake]
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try to stop that mexican shit from comming over the border


Well, until first harvest - as Chief of Herbal Homeland Quality Control, I have enacted emergency measures to actually provide immediate access to that "mexican shit". This is, in fact, a time of war, and drastic times call for drastic measures.

I can only hope I am doing the best thing for my country...
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#2595 - 12/06/07 01:39 PM Re: Legal smoking herbs [Re: daevid777]
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Dear Mr. Chief of Herbal Homeland Quality Control,

I shure hope your right, I just thought that to much brown herb would be a bad thing. LOL \:D But then again you are the herbage expert.

Brown herb is bad M'-kay

D.L.B.
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