#13342 - 10/23/08 12:39 PM
Re: Legal issues and smoking herbs...
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Dimitri
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Dimitri- So you would basically have it treated like alchohol then? People who are weak enough to get addicted have bigger demons to fight than being a slave to pot.
Actually yes, but only with the difference people are allowed to carry maximum "some" grams with 1 number.
So I'm happy with the drugs/alcohol laws uphere. It is legal if you have a max of.. 1 gram on you. Above it they may sue you.
Also the most funniest thing here in Belgium is the fact that you may carry a max of 1gram per person; but you may not buy it within the country itself....
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#14365 - 11/13/08 04:16 PM
Re: Legal issues and smoking herbs...
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Marilyn
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I also like the fact that possesion of less than an ounce only constitutes a misdemeanor here in Oregon. ....
for the past year and abit, this part of Germany has changed its rules :0
it use to be u could carry up to 4 grams for personal consumption. thats is about 0.14 oz.
then they changed it to 2 grams :-(
then about a year and a half, they decided to bring in the 0.0 gram tolerance rule on weed, only because this state ( NRW) is next to the Dutch border.
but, what i did find out be allot of friends,, if they get checked, and have abut 1 - 2 grams of green 9/10 times they get away with it.
too bad for a friend of a friend of mine ;-)
after being bust with 15 KG, he wont be seeing the light of day for some time
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#14401 - 11/14/08 01:27 AM
Re: Legal issues and smoking herbs...
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ZephyrGirl
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Pot used to be decriminilized in South Australia and you could grow up to 10 plants in your home without it being 'cultivation'.
But again thanks to Rann the fucking dogshit man, and his crackdown on druggies, bikers and freedoms, there is now a 1 plant (outside only no hydroponics) per house before they start trying to get you on 'cultivation'.
I think that to have a little bit is still decriminilized and is an on the spot fine, but with Rann it's hard to say. I personally am not bothered by having a joint or cone in public without looking over my shoulder.
Oh yeah, we do have random drug tests for drivers for cannabis, amphetemines and opiates in the last couple of years.
That's a bit sucky as I've always liked getting really stoned when I drive long distances or just to keep me driving fairly slow.
No doubt you get a fine for illegal drug use also, although I don't know anyone that has beeen done yet to find out exactly.
I was brought up on Polyployd(I'm not sure of the spelling) which was such a strong strain of weed. My dad grew plants and I got my first weed off him when I was 12. Scary really. My daughter is nearly that age and I'd never give it to her yet. She knows that I smoke pot, I've always done it in front of her, so she knows what it is, and I've told her that if she ever wants to try it to come and see me and not just do it with her friends.
She of course is rebelling against having such an abnormal mother by being super straight and of course they are put off smoking sooo much at school these days, I get the feeling it will be a while before she does her drug experiementation.
Actually I think this deserves it's own thread and shall end this conversation here and start it up.
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#18778 - 01/24/09 03:17 PM
Re: Legal issues and smoking herbs...
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daevid777
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Again, I have to step in As Chief of Herbal Homeland Security... (yeah, my job title changes...)
I don't want to see anymore of my delicious herbals placed on a controlled substance list. DO YOU HEAR ME?
If you know some shit, then you know some shit. Keep it to yourselves... I know this goes against the purpose of this post, but I can't see any more of the wonderful "shamanistic" plants, become criminalized, and hunted down... Especially because some lame as person saw another lame ass person ingest such a plant on YouTube...
This thread is dangerous, if only to the plants mentioned, and yet unmentioned.
I will say this about Datura... since it was already mentioned...
Don't fuck with Datura!
There.
Okay, as Chief of the HHQC (Herbal Homeland Quality Control) - see, it just changed back again! I feel the need to educate you poor civilians...
Datura Inoxia is a "weed" in the south-western part of the United States. The leaves have a distinctive "petroleum" odor (my best description), and the most beautiful, white, night blooming flowers, which are quite wonderful... and have a nice fragrance. When mature, the plant develops a "seed pod" casing which resembles a small, round kiwi fruit with spines. In here is the danger to which a portion of the youth succumb...
Inside are several black seeds... which can be boiled and made into a tea, unfittingly called "Jimson Weed", which is a dear, close relative, farther north, this is "the Devil's Weed", Datura Inoxia. "Jimson Weed" as it is known is Datura Stramonium. Jimson weed is more "erect" as a plant and grows in different areas, the similarities between the two (D. Inoxia, and D. Stramonium) are the leaf structure, night blooming flowers, and the seed "capsule" - it is known also as "Thornapple" for the same reason (see above)...
The "hallucinogenic" capabilities of this plant are vast, and "uncontrollable". Carlos Casteņeda, in his famous tomes, describes this plant in much the same way, and it is not something for the "uninitiated" to fuck with. This warning should apply to most of you, and myself. It is, however, part of the initiate's training to "grow" such a plant, a task which would seem easy enough, being that it is considered a "weed", and will persist in virtually any soil.
This plant is a relative of the Deadly Nightshade... "Belladonna" "Beautiful Lady", if you will. A name given perhaps not only for the wonderfully fragrant night-blooming flowers (think-morning glory in reverse... which is another story, or "4-o'clocks), but also for the element "atropine" which is still used today. This is an anti-cholinergic drug, and most useful in medicine today, one use being dilation of the pupils, for which it is suggested "old time" prostitutes would use "tinctures" of the "Beautiful Lady" to instill in their eyes, to give the "bedroom eyes", that is dilated pupils (more on dilated pupils and excitation in sexual interest later).
However, no matter how the "beautiful lady" charms you, with her night-blooming fragrance, or most wonderful flowers, I insist that you steer clear of this most wild, untamable, unmanageable, demonstrably non-ingestible plant.
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#18782 - 01/24/09 04:07 PM
Re: Legal issues and smoking herbs...
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Marilyn
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The "hallucinogenic" capabilities of this plant are vast, and "uncontrollable". Carlos Casteņeda, in his famous tomes, describes this plant in much the same way, and it is not something for the "uninitiated" to fuck with. This warning should apply to most of you, and myself. It is, however, part of the initiate's training to "grow" such a plant, a task which would seem easy enough, being that it is considered a "weed", and will persist in virtually any soil.
that reminds me of Salvia Divinorum, the 30X extract.
that is also a nasty one at times.
but i have know some strange times with that stuff.
it is a pity that that one has also been put on the no-go list in germany.
and only a few days go,
some herbal thing called SPICE is also on the list =(
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#18793 - 01/24/09 08:14 PM
Spice
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Meq
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and only a few days go,
some herbal thing called SPICE is also on the list =(
Spice is some strong stuff.
It comes in several strengths - Spice Gold was once the strongest, but now there is a Spice Diamond blend which is even stronger.
In what country has Spice been put on the list?
The Spice blends work on the same principle as the Salvia extracts - extract concentrated alkaloids from plants which would otherwise have only a weak effect (and are thus still legal to use), and blend then with some legal, natural, nicotine-free smokable herbs to give the impression of an innocent legal herbal blend (or incense, as Spice is sold as).
I gave this guy I know a pre-rolled Spice Gold 'joint' (wrapped in green paper packaging) for his birthday once - with a note saying "do not mix with alcohol".
Which was the reason I didn't give it to him until the day after his birthday. Not that that helped.
The next time I saw him, at his girlfriend's party, I asked him how his present was.
Turns out, he had drunk between 8-10 pints the night before (he couldn't remember how much exactly), fancied a bit of weed but had none of the real stuff about, remembered his present, and briefly remembered my warning but in his inebriated state said "fuck it".
At least he decided to just smoke half of it (a mate finished it off).
At first, it had little effect, and he thought it must have been crap or would have been illegal.
10 minutes later however, he felt like he had just smashed into a brick wall. He had instant tunnel vision, saw pink and purple swirls everywhere (must be the lotus extract), and thought he was going to die. He said it was comparable to having taken 2 acid tabs.
His mate thought it must have been Salvia, something the poor bugger hadn't heard of. (Nope, there is no Salvia divinorum or Salvinorin A in the Spice products - and the onset is different anyway.)
Anyway, after a night puking his guts out, he learned the lesson the hard way not to mix Spice with excessive alcohol.
Not that he is likely to touch any of the Spice blends ever again.
Incidentally, his mate, despite being equally drunk, had little effect from his half of the 'joint'.
Turns out he was a coke-head with a strong tolerance to just about everything...
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