#19228 - 01/28/09 05:53 PM
Re: Datura
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Marilyn
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Speaking to Werner, a mate of mine who is a expert when it comes to flying in ones very own home, i asked if he has ever delt with that plant u said, he said he is not 100%,
however, there is a substitute close by and easy to find, it is called Amanita muscaria, he said he as a few interesting times on that stuff. but he warned NOT to play around with the mushroom if you dont know what you are doing due to the fact, you can end up 6 feet under.
but before anyone jumps to magic mushrooms, these contain NO psilocybin...
about the ban of spice and also Genie (which was found out to be 3x stronger than spice Diamond *pretty impressive*)
i think germany was the first country to launch an indepth science investigation on the stuff.
they found some synthetic cannabinoid's in the extracts they use to spray the herbs (not from cannabis tho!)
after they found and anounced they found their first one called JWH-018, it did not take long till the other member of the family came along CP-47,497, HU-210
so sadly they decided to ban it and put it on the drugs list =/
they now have a substitute call 'Space', but i would like to let people know, YES, it is produced by the company that produce SPICE, put is actually just a placebo: same shit, but with no effects.
so if u see it,, dont be fooled 
if anyone was going to ask me, i would say stick with the good old green, and spread the feeling of love and peace. haha
// BTW, if anyone does want to try Amanita muscaria, please do some home work on it before hand.... thank you//
-Marilyn
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#19235 - 01/28/09 07:44 PM
Re: Datura
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6Satan6Archist6
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I would definately have to advise against the ingestion of Datura by any medium. As Mequa already pointed out it is highly toxic and can kill you very easily.
Salvia can be fun, but you have no what you are getting into, have respect for it, and be in the right mindset. Of course, the same can be said for any hallucinogen.
Now onto the Amanita Muscaria. These are indeed a very strange mushroom. Unlike most "magic mushrooms" the Amanita Muscaria doesn't contain psilocybin or psilocin. The active ingredient in the Fly-Agaric is Muscimol. A substance that when ingested is metabolized into a chemical similar to LSA. It is this lack of psilocybin that makes the Amanita Muscaria legal to cultivate, posess, sell, consume etc.*
Today you really won't find to many people using this mushroom to get high because there is often a period of sickness before any feeling of euphoria, and believe me it doesn't feel to to great. As such, people will tend to stick to the psilocybin variety of mushrooms. However, if you can get passed the sickness, these mushrooms provide some really vivid dreams and are helpful for a person trying to undertake a lucid dream.
There is another variety of Amanita; the Amanita Phalloid, common refered to as a death cap or death angel. The novice mushroom picker can often mistake this for a non-lethal mushroom. The problem with eating these mushrooms is you often won't notice anything is wrong until it is too late. It can take up to a week for the posion to work its' way through your blood stream and shut down your liver.
As the person above me already stated it is best to your homework before eating Amanita Muscarias, or any psychedelic mushroom. http://www.erowid.org is a great resource to find out just about anything you could want to find out, about just about any drug; illicit or otherwise.
* The laws regarding Amanitas may very depending on your locale. The link I provided has a section dedicated to the classification status of different substances through out the world.
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#19265 - 01/29/09 06:37 AM
Re: Datura
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spiderbreeder
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Registered: 11/29/08
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Loc: Sydney,Australia
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We have Daytura growing down this way as well, nicknamed "Devil's Trumpet"
In the late 80's,a friend of mine and one of his mates came up with the not so brilliant idea of brewing up a tea out of it, and seeing what happened....
My mate reckons he came out of an insane psychosis (that he can't remember anything about} roughly 72hrs later.
The house was trashed, he'd cut himself and there was blood everywhere, there were big bites taken out of the cake of soap in the bathroom, and he'd also pissed and shat himself.
He was covered in bruises too, and there was no sign of his mate that he'd drunk the tea with.
He thought that he had accidently killed him, and was too scared to search the house.
It ended up that the friend had left and got up to god knows what, leaving my mate locked in the house as he felt he was safer there- bloody crazy.
They are both so stupid, and SO lucky to be alive, though I don't think my mate has ever been quite the same since he put himself through that trip.
Definitely one to avoid like the plague, unless you have a deep-seated death-wish.
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#19360 - 01/30/09 12:22 AM
Re: Datura
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daevid777
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"Jimson Weed" is more in your neck of the woods, I believe, Ta2zz... This is Datura Stramonium, a little different... NOT!
(that was my Borat joke of the day)
It is quite literally a "weed", and will grow in any soil whatsoever, even out of broken concrete. It's a badass, and should be respected as such, and left alone. It is, however, an aesthetically appealing plant to me, its strength, its deadliness, and its beauty. The night-blooming flowers are quite wonderful - upon which one should look, only.
Here, they mow the lawns next to the major roads and highways, when they do this, they spew little tiny Datura seeds all over the southwest. It's too hard to control, and I guess people that actually try this insane concoction either die, or completely freak out... its potential for "abuse" is obviously self-contained.
Now if it wasn't that bad for you, alleviated nausea and chemotherapy-induced anorexia, and by chance made you feel good... then we have an issue of National security...
As for Amanita... as I've said before, as head of the HHHQ, it's best to leave the free and wild alone, this post was originally about "Legal Smoking Herbs", we don't need criminalization of other plants out there, just enjoying themselves. (Salvia divinorum, a nice secret for enthusiasts, is now on the radar because of some stupid fools on youtube, I hope it was worth it.)
Besides, you "can't" cultivate it (the Mario Mushroom), not because of any "laws", unless it is the little understood "law" of the Amanita itself. It is wild, the way a shark cannot be kept in captivity for very long.
Brothers and Sisters, let my plant friends be!
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#19387 - 01/30/09 06:36 AM
Re: Datura
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6Satan6Archist6
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Registered: 10/16/08
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Loc: Oregon
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Besides, you "can't" cultivate it (the Mario Mushroom), not because of any "laws", unless it is the little understood "law" of the Amanita itself. It is wild, the way a shark cannot be kept in captivity for very long.
I disagree with you here. While mushrooms are a fairly difficult thing to grow, because of the fact conditions have to be perfect; Amanitas, as well as pretty much any other fungus, can be grown quite easily by a person who has a seriously vested interest in mycology.With all of the readily available "home grow mushroom kits", the need for autoclaves and syringes are pretty much obosolete.
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#19403 - 01/30/09 12:55 PM
Re: Datura
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Dimitri
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Registered: 07/13/08
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Amanitas, as well as pretty much any other fungus, can be grown quite easily by a person who has a seriously vested interest in mycology.With all of the readily available "home grow mushroom kits", the need for autoclaves and syringes are pretty much obosolete.
Amanita can only grow when certains trees are in the immediate environnement. I know the dutch name, but the english term is flipped out of my memory..
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#19438 - 01/31/09 01:15 AM
Re: Datura
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daevid777
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Yes, I am an avid, novice mycologist... cubensis and cyanescens hold much interest for me, as do Portabella and Shitake...
I was, however, led to believe, that it was actually quite difficult, no, impossible, to grow the Amanita varieties, more specific the "Muscaria" or "Fly Agaric" in a "controlled environment". But no one needs to know "how" that may be possible, except me, of course...
PM, not public domain... no more need to mention such a silly notion such as "mycelium", whatever that is...
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#19803 - 02/06/09 06:42 PM
Re: Datura
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joseph oreilly
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Yes, I am an avid, novice mycologist... cubensis and cyanescens hold much interest for me, as do Portabella and Shitake...
I was, however, led to believe, that it was actually quite difficult, no, impossible, to grow the Amanita varieties, more specific the "Muscaria" or "Fly Agaric" in a "controlled environment". But no one needs to know "how" that may be possible, except me, of course...
PM, not public domain... no more need to mention such a silly notion such as "mycelium", whatever that is...
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