#22598 - 03/26/09 07:47 PM
Re: Legal smoking herbs
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BaronVonShankly
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Registered: 03/23/09
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I do remember trying a substance called trip tastic, it was meant to have been a legal alternative to LSD however the effect was more like speed. Ive also tried somthing called Druids which i found was alot better for me gave me a light fuzzy feeling.
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#23216 - 04/11/09 06:47 PM
Re: Legal smoking herbs
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JudgeFudge
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Registered: 03/26/09
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Loc: Hills of Appalachia.
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you're mistaken noc. The only reason why marijuana isn't notorious for causing cancer is because much more people smoke cigarettes then marijuana.
I'm fairly confident that if there was even ONE case in which smoking cannabis was the direct cause of lung cancer, the anti-drug people would be parading the streets with their corpse however there hasn't been one and there haven't been any parades.
The only thing wrong with smoking cannabis is that you are inhaling burning plant matter into your lungs; there is nothing about cannabis itself that causes problems for your lungs or causes cancer. Still the already minimal effects can be eliminated by using a vaporizer which eliminates 90% (roughly) of the harmful effects associated with smoking.
It has been proven that the burning of marijuana releases tar, carbon monoxide, and cyanide
Finding certain chemicals in certain samples can be caused for a variety of reasons and depend on how the crop is grown. For example you find nitrogen and ammonia in certain fertilizers thus if your cannabis tested for these two chemicals you could have just over-fertilized your crop and it could be residue. Cyanide is found in pesticides, so again if you test a sample and it contains amounts of cyanide, it could be how it was grown. It doesn’t take a grower to know that marijuana grown organically would be healthier for you than marijuana grown by corporations.
I would like to see more tests though in this area.
Even still, all of that can be greatly reduced by using a vape.
However, the recent mental health scares surrounding Skunk are likely to act as a major obstacle to the legalisation of cannabis.
What mental health studies? Sources? Links?
I’m curious. By skunk, are just referencing marijuana itself or do you mean the specific strain skunk?
I find it very odd that the Government outlaws a legal plant thats been here since the dawn of time, that has no side effects that I'm aware of besides eating everything in sight,,,
I’m not. It’s a way of controlling groups the state considers threatening. Chomsky had some pretty interesting ideas on this.
And yes, I've met someone in her 40s who has been a regular heavy user since her early teens. She has developed all of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
She has developed illusions of having personal links to many celebrities and royalty.
When her teenage kid started stealing her pot, she went into a rage attack at some friends of his - accusing them of "putting the idea into my angel's head".
How do you know she didn’t just have some pre-existing psychological disorder that was dormant for most of her life? There is nothing in cannabis itself that inherently makes one go crazy.
There is a bunch of cases were people who’ve never done a drug have concocted crazy ideas like the person you have met. If anything I would say her smoking cannabis didn’t help her but I think it’s silly to say her use of cannabis caused her to “have all the symptoms of schizophrenia.”
For that matter how do you know she does? Did you take her to a shrink? Are you a qualified psychologist/psychiatrist?
I’ve used cannabis for a number of years, everyday, multiple times a day and have had no adverse psychological effects, in fact I think it’s had a more positive effects if anything.
But as one member said, everyone is different and every drug effects everyone differently.
I may respond to more of the thread, I may not.
As for legal substances, I like and often use kratom and am an everyday user of snuff.
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#23228 - 04/12/09 01:44 AM
Re: Legal smoking herbs
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fakepropht
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Registered: 08/29/07
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Loc: Virginia
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And yes, I've met someone in her 40s who has been a regular heavy user since her early teens. She has developed all of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
She has developed illusions of having personal links to many celebrities and royalty.
When her teenage kid started stealing her pot, she went into a rage attack at some friends of his - accusing them of "putting the idea
Hmm. My parents are hippies from the 60's. They are now in their 60's. They have smoked the wacky weed since they were teens. Every day. As a kid, I remember my dad picking leaves and putting them in the oven to dry them out. I remember plants in the house. They used to smoke it right in front of me, until my younger siblings came along. Then they kind of tried to hide it. So after 40 years of smoking, they are still sane and normal. They still hold down jobs, own a house, and contribute. I bet they fired up today. They are coherent, sane, and have a 60's view on life. Even though they are nearing retirement, they still toke and work and continue to guide me and my siblings.
I would have to say your 40yo friend was alreay psycho. It just took a push to get her there. Be it pot, movies, cats, whatever. She was already on that path. The signs were probably there all along, but ignored. Until someone(you)equated smoking weed to her mental problems.
For the record, I do not smoke weed. I tried it as a youth a couple of times but didn't like it. However, I support the movement to make it legal.
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#23908 - 04/30/09 01:40 AM
Re: Legal smoking herbs
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daevid777
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Registered: 08/30/07
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"Temporary Insanity" is the best description of the effects of any drug.
If only because you are not in the same mental state as those under the "imperialist rule" ideology. You are outside the "norm", the "healthy", the "clean"... "Unsanitary" = "insane". Against the rules.
The body has a great way of correcting such instances, and bringing you "back" to a more regulated state, this includes the mind.
Homeostasis.
Schizophrenia induced by Marijuana? I don't believe this for a second. I venture to say, this is not possible.
The problem is that drug users, and drug abusers are condemned to the same category. Some people just like to get high! Others have a deep need for something, and they are already disturbed... they try to "self-medicate", and their problem can go unnoticed.
Burying a problem - however temporarily satisfactory, does not cure. It alleviates, temporarily. Homeostasis. Then you're back to you... crazy you. This is the problem. Crazy people self-medicating. Schizophrenics not knowing what's what. "Weed" might "help" them... but this is temporary. And never, ever steal a Schizophrenic's weed stash! Now you're crazy!
The only physical problem I see, with medical training, and as Chief Homeland Herbal Quality Control Chief... is the "smoking" process. Smoking damages lungs, people. This is the only main health concern, besides driving while intoxicated, which shouldn't be happening in any event. Also, there is a possibility of a kind of "burn out"... "demotivation"... which can be an issue if you let it. I mean, you can't just sit around eating Oreos and playing Wii...
Anyway...
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#23909 - 04/30/09 03:39 AM
Re: Legal smoking herbs
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6Satan6Archist6
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Registered: 10/16/08
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"Temporary Insanity" is the best description of the effects of any drug.
If only because you are not in the same mental state as those under the "imperialist rule" ideology. You are outside the "norm", the "healthy", the "clean"... "Unsanitary" = "insane". Against the rules.
That is true. However, there are drugs out there that are socially acceptable and many of them are taken with the hopes of one attaining that "healthy" and "clean" state which is also the "norm".
The problem is that drug users, and drug abusers are condemned to the same category.
Yes, the people who abuse drugs make the people who use them look bad. Surely any drug can be used responsibly, even though some may be harder than other to use responsibly, but there are also has to come a point where you know limits. Once you feel like you "need" this substance one must take a step back and get their priorities straight.
The only physical problem I see, with medical training, and as Chief Homeland Herbal Quality Control Chief... is the "smoking" process. Smoking damages lungs, people.
This is why man invented the vaporizer. Designed to heat up just enough to utilize the THC in bud while reducing the amount of plant matter burned and inhaled which causes the damage to the lungs. Also helps conserve the product by "burning" longer and getting you higher.
Also, there is a possibility of a kind of "burn out"... "demotivation"... which can be an issue if you let it.
Exactly, if you let it.
I mean, you can't just sit around eating Oreos and playing Wii...
Of course you can. But if you are 21 and still live with your parents, well, I think you get the point.
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#24053 - 05/03/09 02:54 AM
Re: Datura
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Tranceparent Sky
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Registered: 05/02/09
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Jimsonweed grows everywhere here... I had never heard about it until some local kid killed himself smoking it...
All I could think is that the evil plant Cannabis is a class 1 narcotic but this shit is growing in free reach of everybody... Guess jimsonweed does not threaten the textile industry as hemp does...
On Saliva I myself have watched quite a bit of youtube videos and can tell you this... My girl has seizures not always Grand Mal (falling down shaking)... Some look curiously like a Saliva trip... Maybe I am finally acting my age because I cannot see the want to try this...
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Do what you will, stay safe or die...
I hear that Salvia only lasts for 5-10 minutes, and it makes you sick afterwards. I don't see why anybody would want to try it either. The government is already buckling down on the legal status of it anyways, it's now illegal to sell in my state. Shame, as I regularly used it as incense.
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