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#26243 - 06/25/09 04:22 PM The Obama Deception (movie)
Scarlett156 Offline
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A friend of mine told me about this movie and I just finished watching it. A lot of the stuff in here I already knew about, but some of it I didn't.

The Obama Deception on youtube (about 2 hours long)

What does everyone think of this? Is this good information or just another conspiracy theory?

~~~ yours in Chaos, Scarlett

P.S.--I did do a search for any mention of this movie on all the boards and didn't find anything; however, if there's already something posted, I apologize to the mods for that.
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#26249 - 06/25/09 05:05 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Scarlett156]
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I don't know if I can invest two hours of my life in this sort of nonsense.

All the same, Obama is the only politician in history to actually hide their birth certificate. Why?

Obama is well on his way to being among the worst presidents in US history. I don't need a two hour movie to tell me that.

Given the current state of affairs, I say "Keep the Change."
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#26367 - 06/27/09 09:46 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Fist]
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As far as the whole Obama issue goes, I consider myself to be fairly neutral. He's just another politician to me.

That being said, what makes him "on his way to being among the worst presidents in U.S. history?" He's made decisions I do and do not agree with, but what has he done exactly that was colossally bad? I simply don't see what the big fuss is on either side. . . . except for the black guy thing, but I'm sure we're ally fairly tired about hearing about that by now.
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#26475 - 06/30/09 06:30 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Demonic Moroni]
Scarlett156 Offline
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What delightfully relativistic responses. I knew you guys wouldn't let me down.

Has anyone watched the movie yet...?
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#26493 - 07/01/09 01:43 AM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Scarlett156]
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The one thing I didn't like about the whole Obama thing is that (and not to sound racist) a lot of people voted for him just because he was black. A lot of people (not everyone) had no idea about his policies or what he was about, they just voted for him because everyone else did, it was a glorified popularity contest (nothing new really) all elections are pretty much a popularity contest.
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#26576 - 07/01/09 03:59 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Jester]
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Yes all elections are popularity contests. I would also agree that many people voted for Obama just because he was black. Wouldn't want to seem racist after all.

Just a gimmick and nothing more. All the sheeple out there saying: "Wow, things really are changing. We elected a black man." And then self congratulating back pats and cicrle jerks abound.

No one stopped to realize that not all change is good change. Well, not many people anyway.

I saw this movie advertised on info wars, and though sometimes there is interesting stuff on the site, I found Alex Jones to be a little douchy and over top. Plus, as has already been stated, I don't need to watch a 2 hour smear campaign to know Obama isn't the saviour he is made out to be.
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#26625 - 07/02/09 12:33 AM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Yeah, info wars does have interesting items every once and awhile. Alex Jones does have a large stick shoved up his ass. Conspiracy theorists don't realize that a lot of people don't listen to them because of what they are saying, it's because no one likes to listen to a raving lunatic.
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#26958 - 07/08/09 06:53 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Fist]
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i can agree on many levels. the guy has spent more money in the last few months than past presidents and hasnt done anything to help the economy. i dont see him being re-elected.





j.d.

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#28735 - 08/21/09 02:04 AM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Lucifershal0]
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I have not yet seen this movie. Alex Jones.... I've agreed with some things he's said through his various movies, websites, and radio. He seems to use fear as his main tool. Even if everything he says is a truth, his approach feels very foul. It feels like his fear-fueled words work against almost any kind of positive change that he may desire to see. Even so, I'd like to see this movie. Soon.
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#31106 - 11/02/09 02:26 AM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Source]
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Hi, I would like to start off my post by saying I didn't watch the movie. I watched 1 min and 34 seconds of it.

My question: is this political forum or a place for conservatives to split them into two different camps, on the one side the threepers and birthers and on the other side the vanilla racists who have it out for the American People?

To answer your question Scarlet, this is bad information. The fact that you had to ask that question, that you had any doubt shows that it's garbage. Trust your doubt. The people who believe the likes of Alex Jones are like the 'tards who think smoking is good for them because of the Harvard research scrounged up by lobbyist trash Rick Berman.

I haven't dug far into this forum but if I see much garbage like this I'm likely to stop for good.

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#31110 - 11/02/09 06:19 AM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Perdidot]
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Obama is no saviour, I don`t think anyone can "save" or "change" America in a 4-year term, not even in 8 years.
Those who support him now will see sides of him they don`t like, it`s tricky to support one politician or one political party 100%, because you have your own mind, and will disagree with certain things. Same with Obama. He might eventually make a wrong step, like Bush (who made many) and lose some of the status he has now as the Man who can change America. He will try, but fail.
I know many people who say "How long will it be, before Obama is shot?". It don`t have anything with anyone to do, but we who see America from the outside.. well it`s not hard to think "wth are they doing this time." I woudl continue but the teacher came in.
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#31111 - 11/02/09 06:26 AM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Perdidot]
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 Originally Posted By: Perdidot
Hi, I would like to start off my post by saying I didn't watch the movie. I watched 1 min and 34 seconds of it.
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To answer your question Scarlet, this is bad information.


How can you tell if it's all bad information if you haven't watched it all? Granted, I don't remember a thing about the movie now, since I watched it quite a while ago (Alex Jones is good for, if nothing else, a nice, paranoid delusional laugh).

I mean, if you were to say "This is probably a load of rubbish" or something, that'd be fine. But if you don't actually know what the information is being parsed out, and you just denounce it all as bad info...well, that's just not being honest at all, is it?

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My question: is this political forum or a place for conservatives to split them into two different camps, on the one side the threepers and birthers and on the other side the vanilla racists who have it out for the American People?


I'm not quite sure if I should feel insulted by this or not...for one thing, it seems (I could be wrong, that is a very badly worded question) that Perdidot is saying that everyone here is a conservative, and all conservatives are either paranoid or racist. While I'm not a conservative, frankly I find the insinuations rather nasty.

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I haven't dug far into this forum but if I see much garbage like this I'm likely to stop for good.


Leave then. If something as mild-mannered as the way this topic seems to have gone gets on your nerves, than this probably isn't a very good place for you anyway. Maybe I'm just being an ass, but I've read through plenty of threads through here that were rather nasty, and this ain't one of them.
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#31115 - 11/02/09 01:03 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Scarlett156]
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I donít much care for politics. Non the less I will say that I for one like Obama.

One of the reasons IS that heís black. But itís far from the main reason. Next time some black person gives me their lame excuse about how they are being held back because of their race, I can throw Obamaís blackness at him. Not to say that it will mean anything who is looking for an excuse for their lack of standing in society.

I also like the way that he presents himself. It may be an illusion, but itís an illusion that works for me.

I am comfortable that even with some of the accusations against him he was still the best of the others from the list who had a realistic chance of getting elected.

As for him being close to being the worst President of all time; he has a hell of a long way to go before he catches up the GWB.

Am I being deceived? Yes maybe. But arenít most of us in some sense or another, when it comes to politics?
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#31119 - 11/02/09 04:47 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: CJB]
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The first argument, that you can't determine the validity of something without watching it is false. After seeing a frame of an Obama speech spliced, at the very bottom and very hard to see, a black and white photo of NSDAP flags, hearing the narration of Alex Jones and seeing conservative/libertarian speakers I think I can very well imagine it's content and figure that the minutia of the film likely won't be important in any serious political dialogue.

As for your second and third arguments, perhaps you're correct. To clarify, I meant not to split the paranoid from the racist but the paranoid and racist from the nilla racist. And I've long wondered if the Church of Satan was really a conservative movement seeing that LeVay had a hard-on for Ayn Rand and Boyd Rice seemed to love G. W. Bush and was obviously a racialist despite his statements that his racist background was made up. Obviously you, CJB, are not those men. Also, saying that Obama got votes for being black is racist by degree.

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#31131 - 11/02/09 07:38 PM Re: The Obama Deception (movie) [Re: Perdidot]
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"Also, saying that Obama got votes for being black is racist by degree."


But is it not true.....


Morgan


Oh, and btw, I'm not conservative either.
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