#31133 - 11/02/09 07:55 PM
Re: The Obama Deception (movie)
[Re: Morgan]
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Perdidot
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Registered: 10/23/09
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Shirley Chisholm Jesse Jackson Lenora Fulani Alan Keyes Carol Moseley Braun Al Sharpton
None of these men or women became president. All of them are negroe. Obama won votes based on his merit.
You can say it true, and it may even be true to some irrelevant degree but you can't defame the merit of the man in a racial dialogue. Hillary Clinton tried that and she was burned very badly within a few hours.
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#31139 - 11/02/09 09:03 PM
Re: The Obama Deception (movie)
[Re: Perdidot]
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Morgan
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Shirley Chisholm was the first black woman to run for president. I might be wrong, but I think she had more experience in office than Obama did.
Jesse Jackson blew all credibility when he disparaged Obama.
Lenora Fulani is crazy. End of story, no chance in hell of ever winning anything.
Alan Keyes, and your point is????
Carol Moseley Braun, and your point is???
Al Sharpton, please spare me. He's a big mouth who forgets to pay his taxes, marches in peoples neighborhoods, and is anti-white. He is all about any black person getting shot, but when its about white cops getting shot by a black guy, he is in hiding. Oh, and his daughter and wife just got arrested for being stupid. Speeding past a cop, then blowing a red light in front of them. I am waiting to see how he explains away his ex-wife and child disregard for traffic safety.
Okay, so you honestly believe that ever black person voted for him due to his merit, and not just because he was black. I had to explain to two black woman on a train that didn't even know Obama was half white, that his mother was white. They were all about how a black man is gonna bling up the white house and make it ghetto fabulous till I explained he was more than just black. They honestly didn't know.
Your way off the deep end. If I wanted to defame him, it would be easy. I actually voted for him, and want him to do well.
So don't be getting all racial shit on me. lol As I said before I hate all idiots equally, plus, if you live up to your sterotype you are your sterotype.
Morgan
PS.
When Obama first came to New York, he slept in an alley because his friend wasn't home and washed up at a hydrant. I think it shows depth of character to admit and show how far he has come and what is possible. So, I don't want to hear anyone cry or claim the system holds them back. If you don't like the system work to change it or just shut the fuck up.
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#31144 - 11/02/09 09:42 PM
Re: The Obama Deception (movie)
[Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Perdidot
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Registered: 10/23/09
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Morgan, I'm deeply touched by you relating the story of Obama's troubles in New York. However, I'm not amused by your ad hominem of me being 'off the deep end' because you mean nothing to me. I only look down my nose at you.
You may relish in an environment that applauds naked supremacy and the abuse of idiot troll newbs but what real worth does the hobby have?
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#31159 - 11/03/09 12:29 AM
Re: The Obama Deception (movie)
[Re: Perdidot]
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CJB
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Registered: 10/12/09
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Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
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The first argument, that you can't determine the validity of something without watching it is false. After seeing a frame of an Obama speech spliced, at the very bottom and very hard to see, a black and white photo of NSDAP flags, hearing the narration of Alex Jones and seeing conservative/libertarian speakers I think I can very well imagine it's content and figure that the minutia of the film likely won't be important in any serious political dialogue.
Point somewhat taken, but I would reiterate: You can't denounce everyhing in the film as false if you don't even watch it. You CAN say something along the lines of "I watched the first minute of it, saw it was an Alex Jones production, and decided that it was probably filth and silly paranoid delusional lies." Which is pretty much what you did there, so kudos to you.
As for your second and third arguments, perhaps you're correct. To clarify, I meant not to split the paranoid from the racist but the paranoid and racist from the nilla racist. And I've long wondered if the Church of Satan was really a conservative movement seeing that LeVay had a hard-on for Ayn Rand and Boyd Rice seemed to love G. W. Bush and was obviously a racialist despite his statements that his racist background was made up. Obviously you, CJB, are not those men. Also, saying that Obama got votes for being black is racist by degree.
Conservatism, especially in the traditional Christian sense, is something of a collectivist movement (as are communism, socialism, progessivism, liberalism, and a plethora of other "-isms"). Satanism (and Lavey) is individualistic. Ayn Rand (also individualistic) was never a conservative, they just happened to hijack the parts of her that they liked and ignored the rest (like, say, that whole "Atheist" thing, for example.).
I'm not a conservative, I'm a capitalist (if it makes you feel better, you can call me "libertarian"). I'll make it no secret that I have no great love for Obama, my commander in chief though he may be. I also had no great love for G.W. either, or really most politicians today (which I guess makes me a bit of a masochist, as I am something of a politicophile...if that's even a real word)...point is, I could point out many, many things I abhor about Barry. On the other hand, there are certain aspects of him that I respect, although they are typically more about how he projects himself than his actual policy. If nothing else, he has a hell of a lot of charisma.
I did watch the movie, and I suppose as proof of its wonderful content, I already forgot what it was about. In my defense, I had just bought this wonderful bottle of Jameson around that time, and it (and its successors) is empty now...dammit, I'm gonna have to watch it again now.
EDIT: Hmm, I do remember watching it now. And I remember why I forgot it now.
Edited by CJB (11/03/09 01:15 AM) Edit Reason: Adding crap
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#31185 - 11/03/09 05:26 PM
Re: The Obama Deception (movie)
[Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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Perdidot
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Registered: 10/23/09
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CJB, your appeal to remaining impartial made me laugh. It was the kind of politeness and understanding I've come to expect from Satanists. Thank you. Also, your assessment of individualism v conservatism shows a bit of thinking more than blind acceptance of interpretation. You seem like the kind of man who doesn't like to spout the words of his fellows just because he's in good company. However, certain statements of yours, specifically (paraphrased) "Both Bush and Obama sucked," and "I'm a libertarian" and "Obama is one hell of a speaker" Kind of makes you sound like a Ron Paul or Glenn Beck fan.
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