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#27097 - 07/14/09 03:56 PM Calling All Psychonauts
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The following is an excerpt from a writing by Terrance McKenna titled "Tryptamine Hallucinogens and Consciousness". If you aren't familair with McKenna, I suggest you look him up as he has some pretty interesting theories. Probably his most famous is the one where he proposes that human evolution, specifically language, self-reflection etc., was catalyzed by intertactions with hallucinogenic mushrooms and plants.

Please note that I am not making claims of validity concerning the information presented the piece to follow. Instead I submit this because I find it an interesting subject and think that it might stimulate some conversation.

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There is a very circumscribed place in organic nature that has, I think, important implications for students of human nature. I refer to the tryptophan-derived hallucinogens dimethyltryptamine (DMT), psilocybin, and a hybrid drug that is in aboriginal use in the rain forests of South America, ayahuasca. This latter is a combination of dimethyltryptamine and a monoamine oxidase inhibitor that is taken orally. It seems appropriate to talk about these drugs when we discuss the nature of consciousness; it is also appropriate when we discuss quantum physics.

It is my interpretation that the major quantum mechanical phenomena that we all experience, aside from waking consciousness itself, are dreams and hallucinations. These states, at least in the restricted sense that I am concerned with, occur when the large amounts of various sorts of radiation conveyed into the body by the senses are restricted. Then we see interior images and interior processes that are psychophysical. These processes definitely arise at the quantum mechanical level. It's been shown by John Smythies, Alexander Shulgin, and others that there are quantum mechanical correlates to hallucinogenesis. In other words, if one atom on the molecular ring of an inactive compound is moved, the compound becomes highly active. To me this is a perfect proof of the dynamic linkage at the formative level between quantum mechanically described matter and mind.

Hallucinatory states can be induced by a variety of hallucinogens and diassociative anesthetics, and by experiences like fasting and other ordeals. But what makes the tryptamine family of compounds especially interesting is the intensity of the hallucinations and the concentration of activity in the visual cortex. There is an immense vividness to these interior landscapes, as if information were being presented three-dimensionally and deployed fourth-dimensionally, coded as light and as evolving surfaces. When one confronts these dimensions one becomes part of a dynamic relationship relating to the experience while trying to decode what it is saying. This phenomenon is not new - people have been talking to gods and demons for far more of human history than they have not.


Full article: http://deoxy.org/t_thc.htm
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#27098 - 07/15/09 01:17 AM Re: Calling All Psychonauts [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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It seems to me to be a bit of a stretch to make the claim quantum mechanical phenomena can be experienced through ASC (altered states of conciousness). Sure in these hallucinations the experiences are psychophysical.. interior.. the claim to me at this point that we can experience our own brain structures in ASC makes more sense than quantum mechanical phenomena. I could however be misinterpretating what is meant by that.
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#38191 - 04/30/10 12:18 PM Re: Calling All Psychonauts [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Yes, this is an interesting and valuable theory IMO. We see all across the world that cultures practiced using entheogens and substances to induce altered states of consciousness. To the Native Americans, Tobacco was used spiritually but to Western civilization Tobacco became more of a recreational drug. Using a drug just for fun or habit seems to defeat any benefits both psychologically and spiritually.

In my mind, chemicals can be valuable to consciousness, if not for "spirit pursuits" but for psychological ones as well. An example would be a trauma or an inability to socialize due to anxiety, taking a drug which creates a setting of peace- such as pot or a sedative, can actually greatly improve a psychological association. But do drugs themselves change the quantum reality? Well I have no idea. But, I think it's all a matter of our perceptions at the brain level.

On a side note: I do know there have been reports of induced psychic phenomena through drugs. That just boggles my mind. Can a drug really put you outside yourself? It brings a lot to the table, such as the idea that our brains are capable of more than we are yet aware of.

I also think that you can altar your perception without drugs. I've been reading a book The Power of the Actor. In the book, there's a section that describes ways of tricking your mind to feel like you are drunk or high. It's kind of fun, and you'll start to feel the effects. Granted, not as intensely as the real thing for acting. But I imagine with some work you could trick your brain into thinking you were on a drug without actually taking it. That would be a kind of placebo effect.

One of the famous psychonauts, Aleister Crowley, did extensive work with achieving altered states in order to communicate to his interpretation of the divine. Psychodrama can help achieve these states, and gnosis. The problem with getting into those states is that you need a really tranquil open mind...to be in a child-like meditative state- or at least that's how it seems to work for me.

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